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I love this phone, but I'm wondering if developers are interested in cooking ROMs for it. I "only" see a couple ( team kang, TricH, Melvin) but I was hoping that they would be more devs. The ones we have are doing an amazing job though can't complain but the more the better right? Anybody else feels this way?
I feel you, but unless you're making an effort, then you can't really do anything but be patient.
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We did get a mention from cyanogen that they are cooking us up something over there. Which is about the only mod that i care about.
That said.. the phones been out for about a month. If you want anything quality, then youll have to be patient. Im sure some of the current mods are pretty good though.
also team whiskey!!!
Well think about this what can we get ice cream sandwich from cyanogen. Miui from what ever developer and touchwiz. All we need is a few great developers. I honestly would like to have more kernel developers before rom developers. Better kernels means better performance on roms.
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Not all of the source choose has been released for our phone, mostly dumps. Otherwise we would have more developers.
Currently have Team Kang (cmenard, romanbb, whitehawkx, faux123), Raverx3x, |Melvin|, teshxx, Doniqcc, TricH, & Mr -X-ray. These are some of the best developers on our carrier.
Bubby323 is getting his phone soon and atoore is trying to cook up some MIUI. Everything will eventually come together but I personally couldn't be happier with our development!
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Currently have Team Kang (cmenard, romanbb, whitehawkx, faux123), raverx1x, Melvin, teshxx, doniqcc, trich. These are some of the best developers on our carrier.
Everything will eventually come together but I personally couldn't be happier with our development!
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IMO i rather have quality ROMs than mass quantity of ok ROMs
AllGamer said:
IMO i rather have quality ROMs than mass quantity of ok ROMs
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Also, I think the phone that will get the most ROMs will be the GNexus since it will be the latest google phone.
The one thing about android phones is that "too many" (lol, like it's a bad thing) phones are being rolled out so fast that devs can't really catch up.
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The one thing about android phones is that "too many" (lol, like it's a bad thing) phones are being rolled out so fast that devs can't really catch up.
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that is indeed the real problem
it's not really if DEVs are interested in one phone or not, it's that we have just waaaaaay too many choices for Android phones, and it's a hit and miss to guess which phones DEVs will be upgrading to next.
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Also, I think the phone that will get the most ROMs will be the GNexus since it will be the latest google phone.....
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Maybe. I had a choice and clearly the GS2 was a better phone for so many reasons at a pure hardware feature level. I loved my Google Nexus S but this phone is generations ahead of it again. I don't know that devs develop to what's newest ... rather they tend to develop to what they own. I'm betting they'll own the GS2 over the GN.
also if you guys look over at the Galaxy Nexus section, you'll see there are mixed feelings among all levels of users to developers, in contrast in any of the SGS2 forums you see, the feeling is pretty much unanimous, even if not 100% it's like 99% vs 1% dissatisfied, while on the GN side it's more in the levels of 70%~30%
many have already started thinking on holding out and wait for the SGS3 instead, or the Moto Razr, and well any other device but the GN
I think there being so many options eventually all communities will be the same and to get someone to work with that phone the community will have to pitch in to a Dev to buy a phone for them. Kind of like what is going on here which I really don't think is such a bad thing but I agree there are far too many android devices coming out so quickly that nobody (unless they are rich) wants to spend 4,5,600 dollars on a device until they see the next bigger better thing coming.
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At the end of the day, I think it's just that there are only a handful of devs and too many phones. Devs can't develop for all phones. The market is too saturated.
Just look at all the phones AllGamer used...lol
As far as the GN goes, it'll be the next dev phone for at least a year, so I'm sure there will be enough devs there. Hell if tmobile would confirm to me that they will get the GN in January 2012 or within that period, I wouldn't have upgraded to the SG2 now. But no complain so far about this phone, it's the best phone i ever owned.
Hope Team Whiskey makes a comeback!
Buy your favorite dev a phone and i'm sure he will cook roms for it. Devs aren't rich and most have to wait the full 2 years to get a new phone.
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and some of us do it without the device ;P mmm lol speaking of u all need some phantom updates
The current trend of T-MO GSII ROM cooking is very fast imo, i been a ROM flasher for years now, seen so many Dev and their trend of releasing ROMs, and the GSII ROM release and update rate is very impressive, so don't worry.
More devs will come. Word is getting out that the SGS2 is a beast!
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im definately holding out forthe SGS3 ,if it lives up to its billing it may be the best phone ever.....not that we dont already ave a great phone
Do you feel like the development for the nexus is kinda slow?
I had an sgs2 before and Imo there where more roms to choose from and they differed alot. On the nexus it seems like there are 2 bug roms and the other ones are just copies with some tiny tweaks and mods...
Please don't be offended in any way by this post. I respect every Dev and appreciate the work and time they invest.
-sent from my galaxy nexus
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Do you feel like the development for the nexus is kinda slow?
I had an sgs2 before and Imo there where more roms to choose from and they differed alot. On the nexus it seems like there are 2 bug roms and the other ones are just copies with some tiny tweaks and mods...
Please don't be offended in any way by this post. I respect every Dev and appreciate the work and time they invest.
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What are you currently developing?
Been a active flasher from 2010 and I know what you mean that you don't see a lot roms... but the thing is that galaxy nexus a aosp device (not touchwiz, sense, motoblur,etc ) so there is not Mich to changed or rebuild or decompile... most roms for other devices are mostly skins with one special feature... the nexus almost all roms got all the features (I got emoji and love it never thought possible in android lol) and more ... I know what you mean I just to be a flashaholic and got tired of it after a while now I want to just enjoy my device (I'm rooted btw running aokp)
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With all the other phones everyone wants an AOSP rom. So you'll have modded roms based off stock or leaks and AOSP roms. People who own the nexus have it for one reason. AOSP. So all of the roms will be tweaked builds.
You wouldn't step in dog poo with your freshly shined shoes would ya?
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Do you feel like the development for the nexus is kinda slow?
I had an sgs2 before and Imo there where more roms to choose from and they differed alot. On the nexus it seems like there are 2 bug roms and the other ones are just copies with some tiny tweaks and mods...
Please don't be offended in any way by this post. I respect every Dev and appreciate the work and time they invest.
-sent from my galaxy nexus
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haha If you take a look at dev activity for other phones cough htc amaze cough you'll be glad that we have atleast a bunch of roms to flash once in a while.
pmcee said:
Do you feel like the development for the nexus is kinda slow?
I had an sgs2 before and Imo there where more roms to choose from and they differed alot. On the nexus it seems like there are 2 bug roms and the other ones are just copies with some tiny tweaks and mods...
Please don't be offended in any way by this post. I respect every Dev and appreciate the work and time they invest.
-sent from my galaxy nexus
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Wait for galaxy nexus drop to 300..they will young dev will enter this forum..
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Isn't the dev section here like insanely crazy and fast with tons of roms compared to most other phones? I'd call the development fast if anything.
Oh yeah I forgot to come back here and post earlier.. After seeing this I went to the VZW dev subforum, I counted 13 ROMs just on the first page. I loled.
Original poster is mistaking zip roms for actual development. There are not a lot of those here.
Don't get me wrong, some zip roms are legit, but most are copy pasta smali hacks and fake scripts.
Also, compiling from source requires your machine not be a netbook Unless using a buildbox service, of course.
OP, bear in mind this is the Galaxy Nexus you're talking about... it launched with ICS. While there are a lot of brilliant devs out there that can make improvements or add customizations, they're merely putting sugar one something that's already sweet.
What kind of ROMS are lacking that you want?
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OP, bear in mind this is the Galaxy Nexus you're talking about... it launched with ICS. While there are a lot of brilliant devs out there that can make improvements or add customizations, they're merely putting sugar one something that's already sweet.
What kind of ROMS are lacking that you want?
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Not to mention, the forum isn't cluttered up with debloat roms, which lowers the 'rom' count.
Being AOSP and being a Nexus its not going to have ROMs made from other devices with newer versions of Android or Sense so that will naturally cut back on the number of ROMs.
I do wish there were more distinguishably different ROMs for us. I particularly miss a solid build of MIUI with its menus and productive features. Also, coming from the Evo4g I was always fond of the polished look of Sense icons and widgets. More options are always better
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Being AOSP and being a Nexus its not going to have ROMs made from other devices with newer versions of Android or Sense so that will naturally cut back on the number of ROMs.
I do wish there were more distinguishably different ROMs for us. I particularly miss a solid build of MIUI with its menus and productive features. Also, coming from the Evo4g I was always fond of the polished look of Sense icons and widgets. More options are always better
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Maybe you should have waited for a htc one evo ....we mostly all get nexus for simplicity..... Easy to hack and most of us hate sense....
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I'll go ahead and respond...summing it up.
The reason development seems "exciting" on other devices...is there is always something to fix. My Droid X, for example. We were STOKED about 2nd-init.
First builds were buggy. Then we got working CAMERAS OMG! Then charging while off...led fixes...camcorder fixes....hdmi...bla bla bla.
Not to mention battery. Battery was probably 1/2 that of a blur rom. But we stuck with it anyway.
It seems slow because a Nexus device is just that. Open source. And it works.
There is no need to **** about with every little thing to make it work.
No builds over the course of two months just to fix a tiny little bug.
Everything is built from source. And the builds generally add new features.
What more could a user want! I think the development is fantastic.
I don't have to creep each thread for hours each day to see if a random dev fixed 'featurex' and when it will be implemented...
I just enjoy my phone for what it is. A working and pain-free device.
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Jubakuba said:
I'll go ahead and respond...summing it up.
The reason development seems "exciting" on other devices...is there is always something to fix. My Droid X, for example. We were STOKED about 2nd-init.
First builds were buggy. Then we got working CAMERAS OMG! Then charging while off...led fixes...camcorder fixes....hdmi...bla bla bla.
Not to mention battery. Battery was probably 1/2 that of a blur rom. But we stuck with it anyway.
It seems slow because a Nexus device is just that. Open source. And it works.
There is no need to **** about with every little thing to make it work.
No builds over the course of two months just to fix a tiny little bug.
Everything is built from source. And the builds generally add new features.
What more could a user want! I think the development is fantastic.
I don't have to creep each thread for hours each day to see if a random dev fixed 'featurex' and when it will be implemented...
I just enjoy my phone for what it is. A working and pain-free device.
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what Jubakuba posted is aboluty correct, i totally agree.
If i think back to the sgs, that was really a pain, hundreds of photoshop roms, alot of leaks with a lot of bugs, then cm7 (congrates to the devs) but it never came to the state were i would prefer it over the stock rom and that was only because the drivers are just not as good as on stock, now on sgs we have ics, again awesome but also again drivers suck (battery, RIL)
With the nexus i can flash any rom in this forum and it will be most of the time stable, i really love this, thanks to google for choosing the right hardware for aosp.
I agree with most of you. And again to make it absolutely clear my intention was not to insult somebody. It's just a fact that you have explained to me.
Yes I enjoy the fact we have a working phone without the buggy nigtlys and Bugfixes and and and..
But still I think development is more slow on nexus and not as innovative as on the sgs2 for example.
I think because of the crappy starting point other handheld users have( Touchwiz, sense etc...) they are more creative in ways of customization.
I apologize for not being a Dev and contributing to the community.
Maybe I was expecting too much. I'm also a total android fan and would never change but I always thought after some time there would be 100s of totally different launchers on gplay but to be honest 99% only differ in small options but look the same. The only launcher that has a different approach is launcher7 Imo.
Yeah yeah maybe I was expecting too much
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Please define what is less innovative about Nexus development.
This just goes to show that people will always find something to complain about no matter how stable an os is.
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This just goes to show that people will always find something to complain about no matter how stable an os is.
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this isn't meant to entice any kind of flame war, but I was just kind of wondering since I just joined my g/f's plan on T-mobile, and she has the S2 and now I have the S3 .....her S2 only has maybe 2-3 options for ICS roms (besides the standard AOSP)
and I see we're already lagging behind other providers?
just wondering if thats kind of standard, or if things tend to speed up a bit.
or perhaps is there another well known outlet for roms besides XDA for T-mobile? I know I've been coming here since the OG Evo came out and haven't found anything better yet.
The Tmo S2 forums used to be filled with ROMs but the devs stopped deving one after another until there were only a few left.
I'm sure the S3 will have a lot of great devs. Just gotta give it time. Phone has only been out a month.
In my personal opinion, the number of ROMs available doesn't reflect whether a device has good development or bad development. In my experience from the 6 devices I've owned, the VAST majority of "development" is really just people taking the same ROM (usually either the stock one or a CM version) and removing or adding some apps and themeing it. That's not development, that's themeing and doing the same thing anyone else can do with Root Explorer.
It's about quality, not quantity, and with the devs that I've seen around so far it looks like we are in for some great quality ROMs.
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In my personal opinion, the number of ROMs available doesn't reflect whether a device has good development or bad development. In my experience from the 6 devices I've owned, the VAST majority of "development" is really just people taking the same ROM (usually either the stock one or a CM version) and removing or adding some apps and themeing it. That's not development, that's themeing and doing the same thing anyone else can do with Root Explorer.
It's about quality, not quantity, and with the devs that I've seen around so far it looks like we are in for some great quality ROMs.
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I concur, if the hardware is solid then the development will follow. So far I'm impressed with the work for the gs3 and the speed at which things have already started being released.
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WhitehawkX and RomanBB and a couple others and I think a couple of the other devs from the G2X forums are coming here, those alone mean extremely great things for us. Not to mention Cyanogen, (Steve Kondik) himself may very well own this phone as well. Mostly we already have pretty stable cm9 builds they want cm10 now. AOKP cm10 (whitehawkx and romanBB) have been working on that like crazy. Things will explode no worries. Oh and not to mention we already have Morfic and Faux as kernel devs, they support many devices and do amazing things.
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Im more pissed about Sprint now having 3 updates,....are we getting one??
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Im more pissed about Sprint now having 3 updates,....are we getting one??
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I think their update was to remove features. I don't think you want that. :cyclops:
Lack of dev support? Really? As long as we have Steve Kondik (aka Cyanogen) on our side...we'll never lack in the dev dept. Not to mention...Morfic, Faux123, Romanbb...etc. They are, IMO, the best devs XDA has to offer.
Yeah, I don't understand your concern. We have THE premier developer for Android developing for our phones. You want more than Cyanogen himself to have this phone?
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Im more pissed about Sprint now having 3 updates,....are we getting one??
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2 updates were useless the last one tho is good for the notification brightness control, I think is weird that we haven't get one yet, I feel like the us carriers will have jellybean gfirst before tmobile
To the OP Idk man the phone is new the evo didn't explode on development until after 3-4 months, and what I'm waiting the most besides cm10 stable is myns rom, he most likely make it compatible with all us carriers and likes his roms a lot, and the themes he uses it is my favorite so far
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Cyanogen
Eugene
Romanbb
Faux123
^So far the list isn't long but it's quality over quantity in this instance. Although, I am curious as to whether or not Faux, Eurgene, and Cyanogen own the Tmobile S3 or not.
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Cyanogen
Eugene
Romanbb
Faux123
^So far the list isn't long but it's quality over quantity in this instance. Although, I am curious as to whether or not Faux, Eurgene, and Cyanogen own the Tmobile S3 or not.
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I know cyanogen does he posted a pic on his Google plus
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Cyanogen is awesome..but I have no service at my house..so AOSP is out for me next to getting wifi calling working on AOSP
so...while im not saying that we dont have quality dev...its nice to have some variety...for a variety of reasons.
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Cyanogen is awesome..but I have no service at my house..so AOSP is out for me next to getting wifi calling working on AOSP
so...while im not saying that we dont have quality dev...its nice to have some variety...for a variety of reasons.
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TBH most of the variety comes from rehashed ROMs that were already out...Just saying.
I'm just hoping we get MIUI JB soon, I can't wait.
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Cyanogen
Eugene
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WhitehawkX and Cyanogen as well.
It's seriously like the all-star team of devs working on ROMs for the T Mobile variant.
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TBH most of the variety comes from rehashed ROMs that were already out...Just saying.
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Well said.
Cyanogen and Team kang! What else can you possibly need.
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Alanmw86 said:
this isn't meant to entice any kind of flame war, but I was just kind of wondering since I just joined my g/f's plan on T-mobile, and she has the S2 and now I have the S3 .....her S2 only has maybe 2-3 options for ICS roms (besides the standard AOSP)
and I see we're already lagging behind other providers?
just wondering if thats kind of standard, or if things tend to speed up a bit.
or perhaps is there another well known outlet for roms besides XDA for T-mobile? I know I've been coming here since the OG Evo came out and haven't found anything better yet.
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+1 i agree with op
& I wouldn't consider cyanogen/aosp as a tmobile rom chus there Roms are out for other phones as well and if you look at the cyanogenmod site our device is not even supported on there the international one is..
If you look at the tmobile android development we have like 2 Roms that's actually ment for our tmobile galaxy s3 but theyre not even being updated,team sonic rom was updated on 7/20 but that's about it
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+1 i agree with op
& I wouldn't consider cyanogen/aosp as a tmobile rom chus there Roms are out for other phones as well and if you look at the cyanogenmod site our device is not even supported on there the international one is..
If you look at the tmobile android development we have like 2 Roms that's actually ment for our tmobile galaxy s3 but theyre not even being updated,team sonic rom was updated on 7/20 but that's about it
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I would agree. Even though there's a great lineup of developers as already mentioned, there's a lot less activity in the development section than other carriers. I know others have mentioned quality over quantity but other sections aren't lacking in quality even with the additional rom options.
And since the stock rom is pretty solid, I actually don't mind seeing more tweaked stock roms. Both for customization and optimization.
However, I'm still satisfied with current Sonic rom and as some have mentioned, this is the first phone I've owned that I haven't felt the need to flash something multiple times a week in order for the phone to perform properly.
Samsung did a great job this round producing a phone that performs great out of the box. It only gets better from here and with stock performance being what it is, I can be patient while developers get cooking.
unfortunately there's going to be a chilling effect on AOSP / CM dev'ing until this lost IMEI issue can be understood..
Although our device is one of the most dev supported, we only really have 100 different variations of aosp roms.
Would be nice to see something different
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Although our device is one of the most dev supported, we only really have 100 different variations of aosp roms.
Would be nice to see something different
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PA is pretty unique, else I agree
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crixley said:
Although our device is one of the most dev supported, we only really have 100 different variations of aosp roms.
Would be nice to see something different
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would be nice if you built a sense rom from scratch... oh wait.
seriously, there's not a ton of different roms because there isnt sense and desensed versions... versions with and without touchwiz/blur.
its stock android. what more do you want?
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Although our device is one of the most dev supported, we only really have 100 different variations of aosp roms.
Would be nice to see something different
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Not trying to be a **** but you could always develop one yourself.
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do you really have to flash 100 of em? what more do you want that AOKP and AOSP and MIUI isnt delivering? this just makes you sound ungrateful and ignorant. ive been using aokp and miui and im yet to get bored of customization. seriously all the stuff these guys pack into their roms, go get an iphone, im pretty sure they have tons and tons of customization, including their 5th row of icons =___= mods please send this thread into the lands of mordor
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PA is pretty unique, else I agree
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That is what I'm using actually..
Definitely unique and refreshing.
Bring on the onslaught of butthurt though, people read into what I said wayyyy too much.
I'm just saying on other phones I used there were often sense roms, etc..
Doesn't seem like that kind of thing happens too much over here. I plan on sticking with PA anyway, just something I noticed.
The thing is you can strip down sense/touchwiz/motoblur from devices and run AOSP but not (easily) vice versa. Automatically you have 50% less choice. Ironically its the devices with UI Overlay that seem to give you more options somewhat. Its all a trade off.
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When you get your hands on the SG3 the first thing you are going to do is search out an AOSP ROM and flash. Would that then not surprise you that most ROMs are AOSP?
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I owned a skyrocket before this phone and I actually didn't mind touchwiz tbh...
To the comment about "why don't you develop a rom" I find that kind of a cop out.
Not everyone has learned to write code. I spent 8 years in uni and work 60 hours a week as an electrical engineer.
That is the equivalent of me saying "why don't you do that?"
How about a new OS, such as webOS? That's in the works. Sense and touchwiz launchers have been ported I believe.
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How about a new OS, such as webOS? That's in the works. Sense and touchwiz launchers have been ported I believe.
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I'm actually stoked for that...
Some dual boot action would be killer
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I owned a skyrocket before this phone and I actually didn't mind touchwiz tbh...
To the comment about "why don't you develop a rom" I find that kind of a cop out.
Not everyone has learned to write code. I spent 8 years in uni and work 60 hours a week as an electrical engineer.
That is the equivalent of me saying "why don't you do that?"
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Not a cop out at all. I'm a big believer in DIY. I like to know how things work, a position I've evolved to. As I said, wasn't trying to be a **** but if you want it why not build it or learn how.
To your point, it could be quite popular if no one else is doing it.
By the way, electrical engineering is your job. If we pay you for that service you should provide it. Dev'ing is usually a hobby, see where I'm going with this...
I know you weren't trying to be offensive, neither was I.
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crixley said:
Although our device is one of the most dev supported, we only really have 100 different variations of aosp roms.
Would be nice to see something different
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Because these are AOSP supported devices, and its relatively easy to build an AOSP ROM compared to trying to port some closed source stuff from Samsung or HTC...
People buy the Nexus to get away from the other skins. I know its all about choice, but I don't see how you can be surprised that there aren't Sense and TouchWiz ROMs.
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Because these are AOSP supported devices, and its relatively easy to build an AOSP ROM compared to trying to port some closed source stuff from Samsung or HTC...
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This.
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It will be nice if HTC or Samsung make their UIs open and easy to put on any device like google did with their stock UI. But they are too greedy to do it.
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ali magdy said:
It will be nice if HTC or Samsung make their UIs open and easy to put on any device like google did with their stock UI. But they are too greedy to do it.
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Its not that they're greedy as much as they want to be reimbursed for their investment in their UI. Why would they bother making all of their own customizations if they were open sourced to the other companies they're competing against?
Why would you get a nexus to have sense, touchwiz or blur in the first place? I thought people wanted a nexus for freedom but then you turn around and people are whining to be put back in the cage. That is what iOS and WPx are for.
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Why would you get a nexus to have sense, touchwiz or blur in the first place? I thought people wanted a nexus for freedom but then you turn around and people are whining to be put back in the cage. That is what iOS and WPx are for.
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Sense to me is free, I've had sense and it was great. Slow because of the device but nonetheless was amazing. Touchwiz is actually really neat too. I bought a nexus because its a pinnacle of modern smart devices as of now. Cheap, great specs and its big, comes with aosp.
I didn't buy it for aosp or any variation of ROMs. I can say though what the **** is the point of having 100+ different ROMs if all of them are the same? I'm using PA but most ROMs I've looked at or tried is basically the same recycled stuff over and over. Rarely do they have any type of new features.
Yes variety would be great. If I had a computer I would learn how to make ROMs and I would help the developers trying to port sense. I love sense.
Being stuck on aosp isn't bad, its the amount of the same damn ROMs over and over that technically piss me off. I understand there is themed/customized/slim/stocky ROMs but its easy to include multiple of those. JbSourcery and CNA do a great job of this.
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On other phones with skins there are many aosp roms because of the relative unbloatedness. We already have that stock.
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There are already people trying to port touchwiz, sense and blur, the Vicious team I believe. Progress is slow, but Sense is the furthest along.
The reason why we have I suppose less variety than skinned phones is because those phones come with the respective skins preconfigured to the hardware it's running on. Ours did not, so that means in order for us to have said skins developers pretty much have to write/port drivers for the hardware in our devices that don't match up to HTC etc. devices they are grabbing the rom from. This is very slow business, and lots don't bother since phone turnover rates are ridiculous.
This sounds like a bad thing, but on the plus side AOSP was designed for our exact hardware, so it runs better and is more compatible with stock google releases. For those of us who just flash AOSP on to our respective phones anyway it makes the Nexus line a better choice. If you prefer a specific skin, it's best to just buy a phone that comes with it, and go from there.
i wish our note 2's had as much love form developers as the s3 does the got so many roms to choose from compared to us.
Ummm our n2 already has great support and leaks...
Plus that phone has been out longer.....
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I'm sure almost anyone with an S3 would gladly trade you phones..If you're getting let down by the amount of developers here..I think once we get some more ports from other note 2's it'll be better.
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MiguelHogue said:
Ummm our n2 already has great support and leaks...
Plus that phone has been out longer.....
-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss
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Yup...almost a year longer....and the S3 is soon to be EOL'd by Sammy and carriers.
Skripka said:
Yup...almost a year longer....and the S3 is soon to be EOL'd by Sammy and carriers.
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Lol so july - oct(3 months) is now almost a year? You need to go back to math class buddy. The s3 hasnt even been out for a year yet
I like to break stuff!
-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Lol so july - oct(3 months) is now almost a year? You need to go back to math class buddy. The s3 hasnt even been out for a year yet
I like to break stuff!
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I was talking paper release, hoss which IIRC was May-ish. But that is by memory after 1/2 an Irish Ale.
Besides, I'm allowed to round up at the half year point anyhow. Uncle Sam wants rounded dollar figures sent to the IRS, so I can do it too.
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I was talking paper release, hoss which IIRC was May-ish. But that is by memory after 1/2 an Irish Ale.
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Yeah but being out on paper does nothing for development. So it really doesn't count until it's released since you can't very well develop for a device when you don't have access to it or its firmware and sources.
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Yeah but being out on paper does nothing for development. So it really doesn't count until it's released since you can't very well develop for a device when you don't have access to it or its firmware and sources.
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Ya wanna count access to rooting, ROMs, and firmware...well our Note2 has had dev activity for less than half the amount of time the S3 had. Any way ya slice it, the N2 is a new device without even a stable Cyanogen or AOKP yet. Once Cyanogen hits a stable, we'll probably see more action. We'll also see more action when Sammy/Sprint finally get 4.2 officially to us.
im not saying im ungrateful for the developers we have i thing they are awesome and i love there work im just saying its seems like the s3 has a new rom every week and i think its just because its cheaper and more mainstream then our phones. but i our phones are so much nicer and so much faster. it jkust seams like theres more developers over there then here.
Let's see....
Official CM 10.1? Check.
TWRP? Check
CWM? N7100 works but I'm working on a L900 specific one now.
AOSP builds? Quite a few unofficials out there as well.
TW themed ROMs? Also quite a few out there.
Not sure what you're looking for... but chances are it's here or on the way if requested.
just more choices in roms like how many different lk8 roms are there just saying i think theres a lot more roms for s3 then ours seems like more developers over there i wish there were more over here.
garwynn said:
Let's see....
Official CM 10.1? Check.
TWRP? Check
CWM? N7100 works but I'm working on a L900 specific one now.
AOSP builds? Quite a few unofficials out there as well.
TW themed ROMs? Also quite a few out there.
Not sure what you're looking for... but chances are it's here or on the way if requested.
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No I'm not saying we don't have the different roms, just saying its seems we don't have the amount of updates and variety that the s3 has. I'm very thankful for what we have. I just feel they have more developers and thats my question is why our far superior phone doesn't have as many developers.
A lot will change whenever we get an OTA. Hopefully soon.
cool thanks
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No I'm not saying we don't have the different roms, just saying its seems we don't have the amount of updates and variety that the s3 has. I'm very thankful for what we have. I just feel they have more developers and thats my question is why our far superior phone doesn't have as many developers.
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it's simple demographics. the device simply doesn't have as many users.
that being said, I know many SG3 owners with buyers remorse, once they see the GN2. even a few that exchanged them. and a dev or two that snapped one up when they played with one.
we get plenty of love.
ROMS are either AOSP based or Touchwiz based. This phone has two official OTA's, the one that came on it and LJC or whatever. If your looking for touchwiz, it will be based on the code from one of those two or a leak. If your looking for AOSP, its going to be based on CM10, or 10.1 plus whatever else you like. Either way, all the ROMS are based off one of two different sources and just added themes and/or tweaks. I personally am fond of AOSP, so I play with those all the time. What kind of ROM do you want that we dont have? Sense? Blur? Good luck getting any of that on a Samsung. I have to agree with garwynn, we have CM10.1, AOKP, Liquid, Carbon, Paranoid, Baked, etc., plus the Touchwiz stuff. I think the devs we have on this phone are doing a pretty freaking amazing job so far. What ROM(s) are you looking for?
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ROMS are either AOSP based or Touchwiz based. This phone has two official OTA's, the one that came on it and LJC or whatever. If your looking for touchwiz, it will be based on the code from one of those two or a leak. If your looking for AOSP, its going to be based on CM10, or 10.1 plus whatever else you like. Either way, all the ROMS are based off one of two different sources and just added themes and/or tweaks. I personally am fond of AOSP, so I play with those all the time. What kind of ROM do you want that we dont have? Sense? Blur? Good luck getting any of that on a Samsung. I have to agree with garwynn, we have CM10.1, AOKP, Liquid, Carbon, Paranoid, Baked, etc., plus the Touchwiz stuff. I think the devs we have on this phone are doing a pretty freaking amazing job so far. What ROM(s) are you looking for?
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more touchwiz themes like lk8 roms and more themes i really wish i had the time to sit down and learn all this stuff to theme and everything Im to busy and it seems with each phone a lot of stuff changes. Idk and I didnt say anything about the different roms we have I just said s3 has more variety of touchwiz roms and more developers does it not seem like theres a new rom over there everyday lol. Im a flashaholic sorry.
Ps jellybomb from josh beach and h2o from dan are the sh!ts
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more touchwiz themes like lk8 roms and more themes i really wish i had the time to sit down and learn all this stuff to theme and everything Im to busy and it seems with each phone a lot of stuff changes. Idk and I didnt say anything about the different roms we have I just said s3 has more variety of touchwiz roms and more developers does it not seem like theres a new rom over there everyday lol. Im a flashaholic sorry.
Ps jellybomb from josh beach and h2o from dan are the sh!ts
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Thats the thing though, they are all the same rom, just themed different and there might be a few extra tweaks in it. I use AOSP because there is a lot more you can do with it, and there are a ton of themes available for it. Being a themer myself, I will mix and match different theme apks to make a theme I like. I think that it would be worth while for you to start venturing into themes and how to do it. If you learn how to use the Vertimus universal method, it makes themeing a lot easier because you dont have to recompile each time you change an image, etc.
I really hope Samsung and Google back off and allow cyanogen and aokp to have multiwindow type functionality. Now that we have an overclocking kernel and tethering on stock based roms there's less of an incentive to move to. CM until Samsung drops support. Not having multiwindow would really suck, maybe Google will put in aosp
I really wish this thread would be locked just as fast as other have been before it.
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