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Google pulls support for LTE Galaxy Nexus?

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/0...ons-lte-galaxy-nexus-to-be-a-developer-phone/
I'm not sure whether this is legit...or whether its just a mistake..LETS HOPE ITS JUST A MISTAKE OK GUISE?
Seriously though, we've been through enough with this phone

Yeah fingers crossed this isn't true...
Sent from my Gummy Nexus

If this is true, I'm going to be seriously pissed. I gave up an unlimited data plan at AT&T to get the GN because I wanted a phone that should be future-proof with respect to OS updates for 18-24 months.
I'm still within my 14 days with Verizon. I hope we get this straightened out before my return period is up...

Seems pretty clear. It's a bit too official in too many places consistently to be a "mistake".
Verizon pushed them too far, and took away too many things for Google to consider it a Nexus reference platform.
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ssmug said:
If this is true, I'm going to be seriously pissed. I gave up an unlimited data plan at AT&T to get the GN because I wanted a phone that should be future-proof with respect to OS updates for 18-24 months.
I'm still within my 14 days with Verizon. I hope we get this straightened out before my return period is up...
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You could've kept your unlimited plan and bought unlocked GSM... Verizon wasn't your only option lol.

Seriously, this is a lot of uproar about nothing IMO.
The page stating CDMA devices aren't supported is for building AOSP builds for target devices. It has nothing to do with OTA updates.
You'll notice another Nexus CDMA device missing, the Nexus S 4G. Guess where it gets its updates from and always has (it's not Sprint)?

krohnjw said:
Seriously, this is a lot of uproar about nothing IMO.
The page stating CDMA devices aren't supported is for building AOSP builds for target devices. It has nothing to do with OTA updates.
You'll notice another Nexus CDMA device missing, the Nexus S 4G. Guess where it gets its updates from and always has (it's not Sprint)?
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I'm new to Android phones (but not tablets), so I don't know exactly what those listing mean, but I sure hope you're right!

ssmug said:
I'm new to Android phones (but not tablets), so I don't know exactly what those listing mean, but I sure hope you're right!
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They are merely targets you can pass in when building a a ROM from AOSP source that configures the source for that target device automatically and the accompanying instructions for flashing the rom you've build (From source) to that device. Along with this are the required vendor binaries (blobs) to place in the build directory for the closed source libraries for specific hardware for each device.
The sensational headline does grab attention, but that page has never had anything to do with updates.

I think even if Google drops support there will be lots of mods like cyanogen.

DonXoB said:
I think even if Google drops support there will be lots of mods like cyanogen.
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Forgive me if this is a naive question, but would they be able to update the OS from the GSM updates?

I think Google means to pull the LTE radios, it seems like VZW to be concerned about those being OS'ed for security reason...hmmm

martonikaj said:
You could've kept your unlimited plan and bought unlocked GSM... Verizon wasn't your only option lol.
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That is what I did. Best $700 I've ever spent!

krohnjw said:
They are merely targets you can pass in when building a a ROM from AOSP source that configures the source for that target device automatically and the accompanying instructions for flashing the rom you've build (From source) to that device. Along with this are the required vendor binaries (blobs) to place in the build directory for the closed source libraries for specific hardware for each device.
The sensational headline does grab attention, but that page has never had anything to do with updates.
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that's worse. So there won't be devs aosp built on this phone anymore ?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

Verizon must have really pissed off Google.

martonikaj said:
You could've kept your unlimited plan and bought unlocked GSM... Verizon wasn't your only option lol.
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I knew someone would say that! I don't use that much data (although I'm not in an LTE area, but I am near one), and if I did have LTE, I don't really stream or tether, so it wouldn't be too big a deal. (And my company gets a 25% discount at Verizon and 5 GB for the price of 2 GB.)
Still hurt to leave it, especially since I got the GN specifically for what I thought would be guaranteed OS support...
I still have until Tuesday to return it and go back, though...

CDMA GNex

Hi all. I just got my GNex from Verizon. I've heard things about this phone on the CDMA side being abandoned by devs. Is this true? If so, should I get a different phone (I still have 9 days to take it back)? I'm coming from a DX, so I love hacking and flashing.. If this phone is still a keeper...can someone point me in the right direction to a thread for rooting and ROMs and flashing (oh my!)?
Thanks all
-Path
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

Where did you hear that this phone was being abandoned?!
Keep it, you will be glad you did.

It is not being abandoned, Google is just dropping official support for it. That's it.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

Miscellaneous posts from people lol
I thought it was odd considering I bought this phone because it was known for being hackable..
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Here is a thread to get you started for unlocking and rooting...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400871
Check out this forum for all kinds of ROMs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1455

joshnichols189 said:
It is not being abandoned, Google is just dropping official support for it. That's it.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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Google just dropped it as a developer phone. the updates will still be rolling out.Google stated that clearly. the update might take a bit longer than the GSM nexus..but v will still get it....
trust me the nexus will see updates quicker than anybody.
the nexus will see official version 5.0 android os... None of the Droid line ups will see official android 5.0 version on them..trust me
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

PathologyX said:
Hi all. I just got my GNex from Verizon. I've heard things about this phone on the CDMA side being abandoned by devs. Is this true? If so, should I get a different phone (I still have 9 days to take it back)? ...
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Take it back. Get the GSM version. Get anything else.
CDMA is pretty **** to begin with, but Google has admitted that AOSP Android cannot fully support CDMA. You cannot use the Android source to create a working CDMA build without proprietary blobs, delivered by Google, if the carrier permits it.
Google's support for CDMA depends on carriers permitting it. On a Nexus device.
Think about that.
You wont find any shennigance like that in the GSM world because the system is not ass-****ed enough to begin with to allow such carrier-control. GSM is open. GSM is the freedom you want.
Yes. Like the poeople here will tell you: For now the CDMA devs can hack a release together just fine. They can give you a working ROM based on hacking blobs and Android source. But no, but there are no guarantees it will remain that way. One day, you might be out of luck.
The CDMA/Verizon Galaxy Nexus is a carrier-neutered Nexus. It's not the real goods. And it never was. Think about the months delayed release, because a carrier had objections to what Google put on a "clean" developer phone.
The result is carrier bloatware, and Android features like tethering removed.
The CDMA/Verizon Nexus: It's not what you want. It wasn't when it was announced, and with AOSP support taken back, it definitely isn't now.
Just return that POS and get anything else. I've had non-Nexus phones miles more open than the "Verizon Nexus". It's a joke. It's the laughing-stock of the internet.

I have to have Verizon though :\
Where I live, GSM carriers (ATT is really the only one) get horrid service..
So, knowing that, what's your opinion?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

Keep it...
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

PathologyX said:
I have to have Verizon though :\
Where I live, GSM carriers (ATT is really the only one) get horrid service..
So, knowing that, what's your opinion?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
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Please don't listen to this guy he has been trolling these boards for a couple days now, makes me wonder if the mods are on vacation
(Last part of that was a joke/sarcasm of course)
Verizon is just as hackable, you will have no shortage of ROM's for at least a year or year and a half.

Okay, good to know
Thanks for all of your help/suggestions (minus the troll.. gtfo)
I'll keep it then ;D
Now let's see if I can hack this one worse than my DX xD doubtful
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

josteink said:
Take it back. Get the GSM version. Get anything else.
CDMA is pretty **** to begin with, but Google has admitted that AOSP Android cannot fully support CDMA. You cannot use the Android source to create a working CDMA build without proprietary blobs, delivered by Google, if the carrier permits it.
Google's support for CDMA depends on carriers permitting it. On a Nexus device.
Think about that.
You wont find any shennigance like that in the GSM world because the system is not ass-****ed enough to begin with to allow such carrier-control. GSM is open. GSM is the freedom you want.
Yes. Like the poeople here will tell you: For now the CDMA devs can hack a release together just fine. They can give you a working ROM based on hacking blobs and Android source. But no, but there are no guarantees it will remain that way. One day, you might be out of luck.
The CDMA/Verizon Galaxy Nexus is a carrier-neutered Nexus. It's not the real goods. And it never was. Think about the months delayed release, because a carrier had objections to what Google put on a "clean" developer phone.
The result is carrier bloatware, and Android features like tethering removed.
The CDMA/Verizon Nexus: It's not what you want. It wasn't when it was announced, and with AOSP support taken back, it definitely isn't now.
Just return that POS and get anything else. I've had non-Nexus phones miles more open than the "Verizon Nexus". It's a joke. It's the laughing-stock of the internet.
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Claiming misinformation as fact - check
Trolls numerous CDMA GN threads - check
Listen, bud, the *only* things missing are the blobs, which can be extracted, no need for any hacking ATM, by users.
The fact that you need to result to swearing just goes to show how juvenile you really are.
Bloatware? Two apps? Hardly a big deal unless it is you trying to make a point by drastic exaggeration. Those on these boards who have the phone are running ROMs that doesn't include them so it is opt-in.
Tethering removed? That is just an outright fabrication by you.
Enjoy your GSM and let the OP enjoy twice the storage capacity of your phone and four times the transfer speed of yours.

mutelight said:
Claiming misinformation as fact - check
Trolls numerous CDMA GN threads - check
Listen, bud, the *only* things missing are the blobs, which can be extracted, no need for any hacking ATM, by users.
The fact that you need to result to swearing just goes to show how juvenile you really are.
Bloatware? Two apps? Hardly a big deal unless it is you trying to make a point by drastic exaggeration. Those on these boards who have the phone are running ROMs that doesn't include them so it is opt-in.
Tethering removed? That is just an outright fabrication by you.
Enjoy your GSM and let the OP enjoy twice the storage capacity of your phone and four times the transfer speed of yours.
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Funny thing is, on ICS the bloatware can be "Disabled" which is basically the same thing as freezing the app in TiBu which also removes it from your app drawer and stops it from running, essentially removing it from your phone.
Oh and I think what he means in terms of tether is that you have to pay to use it, which is the same with any other carrier just with the CDMA model it is pre built in that it is blocked.
Either way this guy is just an obvious troll.

Me a troll? Come on. Sorry for spreading the good word of freedom around the Nexus forums then.
If anyone should be called a troll at this point it should be Verizon. So far they've completely butchered the Nexus program, and nobody is even pointing a finger at them.
Good job. Really. I'd be surprised to see Google even bother with a non-standard carrier anytime again, if the Nexus program isn't sabotaged enough to be dead by then.
I'll piss off. Enjoy your carrier-approved, carrier-branded Nexus.
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miketoasty said:
Oh and I think what he means in terms of tether is that you have to pay to use it, which is the same with any other carrier just with the CDMA model it is pre built in that it is blocked.
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On all carriers I have had, I pay for data. How I use it is entirely up to me. Tethering is a phone-level function and not anything the carrier can or should control.
And least of all disable or strip free, built-in tethering from the phone. Jesus christ that is invasive to the point of being illegal where I live.
Sorry. There is a free market out there, and there **** like this is not accepted. I thought people buying Nexus-devices would be aware of things like that.
I guess that defines a troll around here, being European.

josteink said:
Me a troll? Come on. Sorry for spreading the good word of freedom around the Nexus forums then.
If anyone should be called a troll at this point it should be Verizon. So far they've completely butchered the Nexus program, and nobody is even pointing a finger at them.
Good job. Really. I'd be surprised to see Google even bother with a non-standard carrier anytime again, if the Nexus program isn't sabotaged enough to be dead by then.
I'll piss off. Enjoy your carrier-approved, carrier-branded Nexus.
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What did Verizon do in all this mess other than put their name on the back and put some (Removable) bloatware on the phone?
You don't back up your points at all but whine about how terrible this phone is, obvious troll is obvious.

miketoasty said:
What did Verizon do in all this mess other than put their name on the back and put some (Removable) bloatware on the phone?
You don't back up your points at all but whine about how terrible this phone is, obvious troll is obvious.
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They stripped the built in, free Android-tethering and replaced it with a for-pay service?
In the rest of the world, you'd return the phone over a defect like that.

josteink said:
On all carriers I have had, I pay for data. How I use it is entirely up to me. Tethering is a phone-level function and not anything the carrier can or should control.
And least of all disable or strip free, built-in tethering from the phone. Jesus christ that is invasive to the point of being illegal where I live.
Sorry. There is a free market out there, and there **** like this is not accepted. I thought people buying Nexus-devices would be aware of things like that.
I guess that defines a troll around here, being European.
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You are free to use data as you wish, as it is pre defined in your agreement you make with the carrier when you use their network. Verizon has tethering in their contract as a paid service. I understand it may be different where you live but here in the states that's just how it is.
The tethering is usable once you enable a tethering plan to your account so why would they remove it?
Yes there is a free market out there but there are also contracts we sign so we can use these phones, and like I said it may be different around here than it is out there.
Enjoy your phone and we will continue to live in our idiotic bliss.
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josteink said:
They stripped the built in, free Android-tethering and replaced it with a for-pay service?
In the rest of the world, you'd return the phone over a defect like that.
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Read above post, and they stripped nothing, just added a message (If you don't pay for the service) that you need to pay for it before you use it.

josteink said:
They stripped the built in, free Android-tethering and replaced it with a for-pay service?
In the rest of the world, you'd return the phone over a defect like that.
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If you don't have the technical knowledge, then don't speak of what you do not know.
They stripped nothing. They have a provisioning apk in place for legit users. Its easily bypassed and we leave it out of aosp.

josteink said:
Take it back. Get the GSM version. Get anything else.
CDMA is pretty **** to begin with, but Google has admitted that AOSP Android cannot fully support CDMA. You cannot use the Android source to create a working CDMA build without proprietary blobs, delivered by Google, if the carrier permits it.
Google's support for CDMA depends on carriers permitting it. On a Nexus device.
Think about that.
You wont find any shennigance like that in the GSM world because the system is not ass-****ed enough to begin with to allow such carrier-control. GSM is open. GSM is the freedom you want.
Yes. Like the poeople here will tell you: For now the CDMA devs can hack a release together just fine. They can give you a working ROM based on hacking blobs and Android source. But no, but there are no guarantees it will remain that way. One day, you might be out of luck.
The CDMA/Verizon Galaxy Nexus is a carrier-neutered Nexus. It's not the real goods. And it never was. Think about the months delayed release, because a carrier had objections to what Google put on a "clean" developer phone.
The result is carrier bloatware, and Android features like tethering removed.
The CDMA/Verizon Nexus: It's not what you want. It wasn't when it was announced, and with AOSP support taken back, it definitely isn't now.
Just return that POS and get anything else. I've had non-Nexus phones miles more open than the "Verizon Nexus". It's a joke. It's the laughing-stock of the internet.
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u mad
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josteink said:
... It's the laughing-stock of the internet.
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I'd return it asap.. who'd ever want to be the laughing stock of the internet!?

My Rant, and I hope Google Reads This

Google, I hope you're reading/listening to this:
It kind of irritates me that I bought this phone for the "Pure Google Experience" only to find out its not really that "True" experience with all these different regional builds.
People are on 4.0.2 for over a month now I believe, yet we Canadian users, as well as many others across the world are still on 4.0.1 and have been duped into believing the "Galaxy Nexus" is a true Google device. Well, it is, but it isn't at the same time. My yakjuux build from what I hear is updated from Samsung, not by you, and that irritates me.
Sure, I can flip over to yakju myself, but really, why should I have to do that??a
I mean is it so hard for Google to do, what the likes of Microsoft has been doing for many, many years? That is make one build, let's call it base yakju, then through the initial install process, ask the user what region/carrier/language/radio he/she has and have the unit download the "region packs" accordingly??
The dreaded Microsoft doesn't sell 15 different "regional versions" of Windows, its the exact same build, but with language packs that are set up after the initial install process.
That way everyone gets an update at the same time, in this case, by you Google not by Samsung, as it is believed is happening with my phone (although unconfirmed because we haven't received an update yet!)
Anyway, there are many that will say you can do it yourself, and while this is true, one shouldn't have to. Nor should we have to wait for updates as a regional build when the "original" yakju builds get updated quickly.
I'm coming from a Galaxy S, and I stated I will never buy a carrier build phone again because of fragmented updates across the world, of which Canada never seemed to get one... I said I'm going pure android. That is why I bought the Nexus.
Unfortunately, its starting to feel like the exact same experience.
Sorry if this bothers someone. That was not my intention.

Why not just flash yakju? You don't even need to unlock the bootloader (or so I've heard).

Oretoise said:
Why not just flash yakju? You don't even need to unlock the bootloader (or so I've heard).
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You've heard wrong.
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Oretoise said:
Why not just flash yakju? You don't even need to unlock the bootloader (or so I've heard).
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Its a matter of principle for some people.
And you have to unlock your bootloader. You can relock it after of course.

greeced said:
Google, I hope you're reading/listening to this:
It kind of irritates me that I bought this phone for the "Pure Google Experience" only to find out its not really that "True" experience with all these different regional builds.
People are on 4.0.2 for over a month now I believe, yet we Canadian users, as well as many others across the world are still on 4.0.1 and have been duped into believing the "Galaxy Nexus" is a true Google device. Well, it is, but it isn't at the same time. My yakjuux build from what I hear is updated from Samsung, not by you, and that irritates me.
Sure, I can flip over to yakju myself, but really, why should I have to do that??a
I mean is it so hard for Google to do, what the likes of Microsoft has been doing for many, many years? That is make one build, let's call it base yakju, then through the initial install process, ask the user what region/carrier/language/radio he/she has and have the unit download the "region packs" accordingly??
The dreaded Microsoft doesn't sell 15 different "regional versions" of Windows, its the exact same build, but with language packs that are set up after the initial install process.
That way everyone gets an update at the same time, in this case, by you Google not by Samsung, as it is believed is happening with my phone (although unconfirmed because we haven't received an update yet!)
Anyway, there are many that will say you can do it yourself, and while this is true, one shouldn't have to. Nor should we have to wait for updates as a regional build when the "original" yakju builds get updated quickly.
I'm coming from a Galaxy S, and I stated I will never buy a carrier build phone again because of fragmented updates across the world, of which Canada never seemed to get one... I said I'm going pure android. That is why I bought the Nexus.
Unfortunately, its starting to feel like the exact same experience.
Sorry if this bothers someone. That was not my intention.
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Agreed on all points! Google, sadly, is becoming a an organization that lacks focus in its endeavors.

I also come from a galaxy s and i have a yakju, international gsm, carrier free.
When i first heard that vodafone pt would have galaxy nexus carrier locked for sale, i thought right away that that couldnt be a good thing, so i went and ordered a sim free international version even more certain that what i needed was the one where no carrier touched, only Google. That worked out fine. There was no yakju variants known at the time, october or early november last year.
The move about dropping support on cdma devices was not so good, but thats on the carrier and lte fw.
Edit: re read op, and it seems he has a carrier unlocked phone.
If you wanted to escape regional builds, you should ask yourself why they exist. Different basebands for example, you probably are aware of this since you're from Canada.
I dont care about otas and etas, as long as source is available. Thats why i bought it in the first place.

Yes I can't believe why Google is allowing this. The nexus doesn't seem like a nexus now- it's just a phone that is unlockable.
It is the same case for me in Hong Kong. I finally decided not to flash yakju but to start using ROMs the second week I bought the phone.
Google needs to change this policy. They aren't going to let the nexus get more and more out of hand and less Google! As we Hongkongers like to say, give us back the "Google son"!
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greeced said:
It kind of irritates me that I bought this phone for the "Pure Google Experience" only to find out its not really that "True" experience with all these different regional builds.
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How could there be no regional builds when people in the world don't even speak the same language?
Sorry for my sarcasm, but you get the idea. We have different networks, systems, AC power plugs... the list goes on and on. Just look at what 'X' means in different countries.
But I agree that they can do a lot more to make it easier.

Google has always held the belief that the Nexus line is for developers. It is for the most part a stock platform for which a developer can test their products on. However, Samsung and the carriers have mass marketed the phone as a consumer phone. It really is not and the Nexus brand has changed forever.
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Eventually, google/samsung have to please the carriers that are selling the phone, else they won't want to carry it.

how do i know what region my gnex is frmo?

zeekiz said:
Eventually, google/samsung have to please the carriers that are selling the phone, else they won't want to carry it.
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This is true only in the us. The rest of the world has working GSM networks and thus freedom from carrier dictated nonsense.
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Oretoise said:
Why not just flash yakju? You don't even need to unlock the bootloader (or so I've heard).
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You're missing the point of his post.
Sent from a yakju GSGN

josteink said:
This is true only in the us. The rest of the world has working GSM networks and thus freedom from carrier dictated nonsense.
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But then you are looking at the fact that they then have to supply smaller retailers with the handset, which also means they would have a lower scope of user adoption, as well as the cost of additional advertising.
By pleasing selected network providers, it ensure that the handset is in the hands of not just enthusiasts, but also the general user. The handset will have a higher adoption rate due to the higher availability, as well as the network providers will be more proactive in advertising the phone, overall this not only increases profits, but saves money by relying on the front end to advertise to attract users.
Business is business at the end of the day.

HRodMusic said:
how do i know what region my gnex is frmo?
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https://market.android.com/details?id=de.cbruegg.officialupdate

martonikaj said:
https://market.android.com/details?id=de.cbruegg.officialupdate
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wow thank you kind sir!
so i guess im yakju, thats the good one right? does that mean my phone is not canadian?

HRodMusic said:
wow thank you kind sir!
so i guess im yakju, thats the good one right? does that mean my phone is not canadian?
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LOL. Read the app man. If it says "updated by GOOGLE" then you're good.
Its not about being Canadian vs. not. More like 100% stock Google vs. 99% stock Google.

efrant said:
You've heard wrong.
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You do NOT need to unlock boot loader to flash yakju, from personal experience.

martonikaj said:
LOL. Read the app man. If it says "updated by GOOGLE" then you're good.
Its not about being Canadian vs. not. More like 100% stock Google vs. 99% stock Google.
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yea, its just i got my phone off craigslist, ive always wondered were it came from, over seas, or from my canadian neighbors =D
btw whats your speeds like in bellingham?

greeced said:
Google, I hope you're reading/listening to this:
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You're posting on XDA and hope Google reads this?
I'm just happy that we have access to the latest ICS versions (through ROMs and AOSP). If I have to flash them instead of getting OTAs, then so be it. I can live with that.
I am 100% sure we are much better off than those still stuck on Gingerbread, Froyo, Eclair and even Donut. We and the Nexus S crew are still the first to get our hands on ICS, which we've been able to enjoy over the past 4 months whilst everyone else has to wait patiently. We'll also have first dibs on Jellybean too
Is it ideal that we already have version fragmentation on ICS? Not really, but considering the baseline version recommended for mass use hasn't seemed to have surfaced yet, I wouldn't really consider that a problem. Once that's out in the wild, I would expect most people will get OTA'd to the latest version and all will be well.
Regional builds MAY get it slower due to Samsung handling the OTAs, however I think they only did this to offload some of the pressure of single-handedly applying a global update. Even though my Nexus was shipped as yakju, I do hope Sammy pulls their finger out and updates the regional builds as fast as Google will.

Sprint galaxy nexus questions

I have a few questions specific to the Sprint version of the galaxy nexus:
1. Updates - who provides them? Does google have to go through sprint? Or can you download them direct from google like you can with GSM/Verizon? If google direct, does google provide up to date versions? They don't for verizon (who is still on 4.0.2)
2. If google doesn't provide them direct, what are the chances that the modding community can provide a pure google experience with a fully up to date copy of android? I mean no modifications at all beyond what you would otherwise find in the pure google release.
3. Do third party ROM's and google direct ROM's have access to the ## codes? E.g. ##DATA, etc.
4. Does the stock nexus include bloatware (e.g. crappy NASCAR alikes, amazon mp3, sprintzone, etc)
5. The Verizon CDMA has connection issues, can the same be said about Sprint?
6. I've heard about some problems with some screens looking like crap, has this been the case with the sprint version?

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1. I believe Google supplies updates to all of the nexus phones.
2. Even with direct updates from Google the modding community will just about always provide better update support for any android phone. Not too mention the tweaks and mods that truly push the power of the phone.
3. No bloatware at all on the Sprint galaxy nexus.
4. I have had no connection issues.
5. This screen is beautiful, but some people seem to notice things in pentile screens while others do not.
I started using smartphones with a blackberry curve, then a Samsung moment, then an HTC Evo 4g, then the HTC Evo 3d and now my SAMSUNG galaxy nexus (I still prefer the nexus prime name as it would have gone well with my transformer prime). This is by far the best phone out of the bunch.
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I missed number 3, but I don't know so it doesn't matter.
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Rakeesh_j said:
I have a few questions specific to the Sprint version of the galaxy nexus:
1. Updates - who provides them? Does google have to go through sprint? Or can you download them direct from google like you can with GSM/Verizon? If google direct, does google provide up to date versions? They don't for verizon (who is still on 4.0.2)
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Google makes the updates for the software, then hands it to (and continues to work with) Sprint to develop the kernel and radio stacks to work with the update. The update gets tied up in that process, exactly how it does with Verizon. Updates will be slower because of it.
2. If google doesn't provide them direct, what are the chances that the modding community can provide a pure google experience with a fully up to date copy of android? I mean no modifications at all beyond what you would otherwise find in the pure google release.
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People will take the update files from GSM and take the changes and add them to new CDMA ROMs, but they will still be using the old radios from the previous updates (because those aren't included in the GSM ROMs of course). So basically it's a hack job that just makes you feel better because you have the updated build number, but isn't really an update. Often the updates for GSM don't do anything to fix the CDMA model, and its purely cosmetic. Fixes that the CDMA version need will only come in the CDMA update.
3. Do third party ROM's and google direct ROM's have access to the ## codes? E.g. ##DATA, etc.
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Short codes are just pinging your carrier and returning the data. Shouldn't be ROM specific.
4. Does the stock nexus include bloatware (e.g. crappy NASCAR alikes, amazon mp3, sprintzone, etc)
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Shouldn't have any Sprint apps (Verizon includes 2 tools). Any that are included can be disabled.
5. The Verizon CDMA has connection issues, can the same be said about Sprint?
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Dunno. Different networks and software versions (slightly). The radios are probably of the same quality though.
6. I've heard about some problems with some screens looking like crap, has this been the case with the sprint version?
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Sprint version has the same screen tech/process/manufacturer as the other models. It'll be subject to the same inconsistencies and "issues" that people see. Its the same production line.

martonikaj said:
People will take the update files from GSM and take the changes and add them to new CDMA ROMs, but they will still be using the old radios from the previous updates (because those aren't included in the GSM ROMs of course). So basically it's a hack job that just makes you feel better because you have the updated build number, but isn't really an update. Often the updates for GSM don't do anything to fix the CDMA model, and its purely cosmetic. Fixes that the CDMA version need will only come in the CDMA update.
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Well I'd assume they'd still have the android core fixes at least? Take for example the API additions and calendar app changes from 4.0.2 to 4.0.3.
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Short codes are just pinging your carrier and returning the data. Shouldn't be ROM specific.
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I think that's true on GSM but CDMA is different. For example, if you load CM9 to an HTC Evo or an HTC Hero, you lose access to those codes.
Don't suppose anybody could test this for me? E.g. load AOKP or CM9 to their galaxy nexus and try them.

Rakeesh_j said:
Well I'd assume they'd still have the android core fixes at least? Take for example the API additions and calendar app changes from 4.0.2 to 4.0.3.
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They'd include anything that was part of the GSM OTA that wasn't radio or CDMA specific. So you'd get feature adds, but not bugfixes. Most people are looking for bug fixes, which they don't get. As I said, for the most part these CDMA ROMs that include parts of the GSM OTAs can be pretty useless and are usually just cosmetic.
I think that's true on GSM but CDMA is different. For example, if you load CM9 to an HTC Evo or an HTC Hero, you lose access to those codes.
Don't suppose anybody could test this for me? E.g. load AOKP or CM9 to their galaxy nexus and try them.
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No idea, don't like or use CDMA.

Google is the owner for the core of the updates, sprint and Verizon both have minor BS on them that can be deleted, no Verizon issues since day one of release, and load AOKP as soon as you can, mskip(XDA) makes the BEST rooting software on the net for this phone
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Why am I waiting on VZW?

Why am I waiting on VZW for 4.0.4? I understood (or misunderstood) the Nexus line to get their updates directly from Google. This played a significant role in my decision to go with the Galaxy Nexus. So, what changed? I'm sure the Nexus One got updates direct from Google...didn't it? Also, I noticed a couple VZW branded uninstallable apps preloaded on it...why is there ANYTHING non-Google preloaded if it's "Pure Google?"
Man, I must have misunderstood something.

Because you are too lazy to root your phone?
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miketoasty said:
Because you are too lazy to root your phone?
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+1. Root it & put 4.0.4 on it yourself. Eff vzw.
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There wasn't a CDMA Nexus One, so yes it got its updates from Google.
This is actually nothing new, nothing has changed. Its been the exact same with the NS4G on Sprint. Verizon has closed-source radio code that they have to add themselves and test before sending it out. THAT is why you're waiting for Verizon.
As for the apps, just disable them and stop crying. Its the same deal, if a phone is gonna be on Verizon it's gonna have those apps.
If it bothers you that bad, buy a GSM model.
This has been argued/explained at length in many threads, blogs, podcasts and posts.

CDMA Nexii are slightly different. They get updates sent from Google to the carriers(ie Sprint and Verizon). GSM Nexii on the other hand, get updates directly from Google. It was known for a while now that this was the case, which means you didn't do your research.
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miketoasty said:
Because you are too lazy to root your phone?
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Shouldn't have to.
Anyway, it's clear that VZW is incapable of responsibly having a Nexus phone in their lineup. I hope they don't get one ever again unless Google manages to get some leverage on them like Apple does.

vash1053 said:
Anyway, it's clear that VZW is incapable of responsibly having a Nexus phone in their lineup. I hope they don't get one ever again unless Google manages to get some leverage on them like Apple does.
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Apple doesn't have any special leverages over carriers for OS updates when compared to the Nexus. They need Verizon's proprietary code and testing just as much. They need the same with AT&T and Sprint.
We just don't get any leaks on iOS updates, and Apple only releases an iOS update when its ready for everyone. They don't release iOS earlier for their unlocked models because they want to release it for everyone at once. It'd be the exact same deal if Google held the update for everyone and didn't push it till Verizon was done.
And you're right, he shouldn't have to root his phone. If he wants to wait he can wait and he'll get the OTA when its pushed to everyone on the Verizon model. Rooting isn't the only way to get the OTA. It does come w/o rooting if you wait.

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Shouldn't have to.
Anyway, it's clear that VZW is incapable of responsibly having a Nexus phone in their lineup. I hope they don't get one ever again unless Google manages to get some leverage on them like Apple does.
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Like mentioned earlier VZW still customizes android with radios and bloatware. So despite the newest Google android releases for GSM deices VZW still tinkers with the latest version goes through a testing phase then pushes it to end users eventually. The beauty of a Nexus phone is user freedom to customize and use roms with ease. Quit waiting on Big Red, take your phone back flash the latest software yourself.

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Like mentioned earlier VZW still customizes android with radios and bloatware. So despite the newest Google android releases for GSM deices VZW still tinkers with the latest version goes through a testing phase then pushes it to end users eventually. The beauty of a Nexus phone is user freedom to customize and use roms with ease. Quit waiting on Big Red, take your phone back flash the latest software yourself.
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VZW doesn't customize anything. The bloatware is just like 2-3 apps that are Verizon apps.
Radios are handled by Samsung.
Verizon Galaxy Nexus isn't a true 'nexus' device. People will debate with me but honestly it isn't,
1) No images flashed to 4.0.4 (they are archived on Google's website to 4.0.2 now but won't be updated).
2) Carrier has to approve update.
If you want the true Nexus feeling, get the GSM model of the phone.
If you don't want to root / flash your phone, then don't complain about not getting 4.0.4. GSM users have to wait for the OTA as well unless they root and manually flash. You can manually flash 4.0.4 OTA on VZW as well.
But GSM will get it first because they dont have to be approved.

zephiK said:
VZW doesn't customize anything. The bloatware is just like 2-3 apps that are Verizon apps.
Radios are handled by Samsung.
Verizon Galaxy Nexus isn't a true 'nexus' device. People will debate with me but honestly it isn't,
1) No images flashed to 4.0.4 (they are archived on Google's website to 4.0.2 now but won't be updated).
2) Carrier has to approve update.
If you want the true Nexus feeling, get the GSM model of the phone.
If you don't want to root / flash your phone, then don't complain about not getting 4.0.4. GSM users have to wait for the OTA as well unless they root and manually flash. You can manually flash 4.0.4 OTA on VZW as well.
But GSM will get it first because they dont have to be approved.
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what you stated here and was really my trying point is that veriosn needs to approve the software including the 2 to 3 apps and radios before the push to users ... i don't think anyone can deny that verison's version isn't true nexus
the only real nexus's are the Yakju/Takju builds ... which any gsm version could be converted to

zephiK said:
VZW doesn't customize anything. The bloatware is just like 2-3 apps that are Verizon apps.
Radios are handled by Samsung.
Verizon Galaxy Nexus isn't a true 'nexus' device. People will debate with me but honestly it isn't,
1) No images flashed to 4.0.4 (they are archived on Google's website to 4.0.2 now but won't be updated).
2) Carrier has to approve update.
If you want the true Nexus feeling, get the GSM model of the phone.
If you don't want to root / flash your phone, then don't complain about not getting 4.0.4. GSM users have to wait for the OTA as well unless they root and manually flash. You can manually flash 4.0.4 OTA on VZW as well.
But GSM will get it first because they dont have to be approved.
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They are updating what binaries they can provide, so don't be so sure they won't be updating images. Your definition of a true Nexus and mine differ.

VZW Galaxy Nexus still gets updates directly from Google. It just has to be put under review/testing from Verizon before it gets pushed.
Plus, who actually depends on the OTA? You're on XDA after all.
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zephiK said:
VZW doesn't customize anything. The bloatware is just like 2-3 apps that are Verizon apps.
Radios are handled by Samsung.
Verizon Galaxy Nexus isn't a true 'nexus' device. People will debate with me but honestly it isn't,
1) No images flashed to 4.0.4 (they are archived on Google's website to 4.0.2 now but won't be updated).
2) Carrier has to approve update.
If you want the true Nexus feeling, get the GSM model of the phone.
If you don't want to root / flash your phone, then don't complain about not getting 4.0.4. GSM users have to wait for the OTA as well unless they root and manually flash. You can manually flash 4.0.4 OTA on VZW as well.
But GSM will get it first because they dont have to be approved.
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The radios are handled by Qualcomm/Verizon. It's a "true" nexus device. It meets all the criteria. Just because it gets a .0.1 revision update a week later (or whatever it was) doesn't mean ****. Seriously? Gonna cry of a couple small bug fixes? As to the CDMA binaries not being available, talk to Qualcomm, they made most of the binaries/radios.

You may not have to wait much longer. Vzw started to push 4.0.4 (Imm76K) last week.
It's in the Vzw Dev forum if you don't want to wait and don't mind unlocking and rooting

You guys are really proud of rooting your phone. Sounds like you need something bigger in your life. I ask a few questions and suddenly I'm lazy & crying. Really, if this is big enough to get upset over, then you need to lay off the internet a little. Go find something worth getting upset over.

No one is upset. In the time it took creating this thread and replying to posts, you could have rooted and been on 4.0.4. I think that's the point everyone's trying to convey.
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meganame said:
You guys are really proud of rooting your phone. Sounds like you need something bigger in your life. I ask a few questions and suddenly I'm lazy & crying. Really, if this is big enough to get upset over, then you need to lay off the internet a little. Go find something worth getting upset over.
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No need to meet harshness with harshness.
Its obvious you're upset about this whole thing or you wouldn't have created a thread about it. You need to just decide what's important to you, read up on it, and if you find you don't want to "wait for Verizon" then I'll tell you again to buy a GSM model.

keith.mcintyre26 said:
No one is upset. In the time it took creating this thread and replying to posts, you could have rooted and been on 4.0.4. I think that's the point everyone's trying to convey.
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Ah, well those words conveyed it better.

keith.mcintyre26 said:
No one is upset. In the time it took creating this thread and replying to posts, you could have rooted and been on 4.0.4. I think that's the point everyone's trying to convey.
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Not really helping... I think what he's trying to get people to understand is that he shouldn't have to root to get the OTA. And all people on XDA do is say "shut up noob, just root your ph0n3".
OP, whether you like it or not this thread is going to turn into a nasty, nasty flame war in a couple pages. Sorry.

martonikaj said:
Not really helping... I think what he's trying to get people to understand is that he shouldn't have to root to get the OTA. And all people on XDA do is say "shut up noob, just root your ph0n3".
OP, whether you like it or not this thread is going to turn into a nasty, nasty flame war in a couple pages. Sorry.
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Its true.
They should really stress the fact that XDA is a development site and not Verizon support forums.
Seriously though, you came on XDA and posted this thread. You could've rooted, unlocked, and flashed 4.0.4 by now.
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martonikaj said:
Apple doesn't have any special leverages over carriers for OS updates when compared to the Nexus. They need Verizon's proprietary code and testing just as much. They need the same with AT&T and Sprint.
We just don't get any leaks on iOS updates, and Apple only releases an iOS update when its ready for everyone. They don't release iOS earlier for their unlocked models because they want to release it for everyone at once. It'd be the exact same deal if Google held the update for everyone and didn't push it till Verizon was done.
And you're right, he shouldn't have to root his phone. If he wants to wait he can wait and he'll get the OTA when its pushed to everyone on the Verizon model. Rooting isn't the only way to get the OTA. It does come w/o rooting if you wait.
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Apple most definitely has leverage over carriers. If they didn't, you'd see bloatware on subsidized iPhones & updates being pushed at different times. Leaks don't matter because Apple makes their beta iOS builds readily available to those enrolled in the iOS development program.
A lot of fandroids don't want to admit that there ARE benefits to being a control freak, especially when you're one of the richest and most famous companies in the entire world. Apple doesn't order VZW around, but you can be damn sure that VZW doesn't order Apple around either. VZW telling Apple what changes they want made to the OS? LOL, not going to happen.