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There's already talks that 2.4 should be out soon.
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There's already talks that 2.4 should be out soon.
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I believe 2.4 honeycomb will be for tablets and 2.3 gingerbread for hand helds. But I think around april.
blakeboys said:
I believe 2.4 honeycomb will be for tablets and 2.3 gingerbread for hand helds. But I think around april.
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Actually, 3.0 is Honeycomb. 2.4 is Gingerbread (kinda like how 2.0 and 2.1 were both Eclair).
OP, there is no set date on when we will get 2.3
I have heard recent rumors, now that 2.4 is just 2.3 Gingerbread with fixes/tweaks, it will be out in April/May, and launch with new devices. And that current phones will have to wait until Summer to get the official 2.4 Gingerbread update from their carrier and manufacturer.
Honeycomb is just for Tablets and is 3.0
"Ice Cream Sandwich" is the MAJOR update for Android phones, due out last half of the year.
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I have heard recent rumors, now that 2.4 is just 2.3 Gingerbread with fixes/tweaks, it will be out in April/May, and launch with new devices. And that current phones will have to wait until Summer to get the official 2.4 Gingerbread update from their carrier and manufacturer.
Honeycomb is just for Tablets and is 3.0
"Ice Cream Sandwich" is the MAJOR update for Android phones, due out last half of the year.
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oh man ... Summer ?
Bummer.
Everyone is waiting for gingerbread dose it have a lot of different features then 2.2
Leukay said:
Actually, 3.0 is Honeycomb. 2.4 is Gingerbread (kinda like how 2.0 and 2.1 were both Eclair).
OP, there is no set date on when we will get 2.3
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Thanks for the corrections. I got on the googler after posting and discovered that as well.
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Everyone is waiting for gingerbread dose it have a lot of different features then 2.2
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I honestly believe the improvements over 2.2 aren't too significant.
It would bring the new sense to our phones though, and for me that's what I'm mostly waiting for.
really the only thing I miss is the copy paste. I use it all the time and the way it's done now just sucks.
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Everyone is waiting for gingerbread dose it have a lot of different features then 2.2
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From what I've read it's no different.
Different keyboard if you're someone who uses the stock keyboard.
New sense that to me doesn't look as nice as 2.2.
I don't think we're missing out.
2.3 is gingerbread. 2.4 should be iced gingerbread to bridge the gap between Apps for 3.0 honeycomb and 2.3 gingerbread. Basically 2.4 on phones will help run the 3.0 Apps on said phones
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I have heard recent rumors, now that 2.4 is just 2.3 Gingerbread with fixes/tweaks, it will be out in April/May, and launch with new devices. And that current phones will have to wait until Summer to get the official 2.4 Gingerbread update from their carrier and manufacturer.
Honeycomb is just for Tablets and is 3.0
"Ice Cream Sandwich" is the MAJOR update for Android phones, due out last half of the year.
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Nope, as of right now it's for tablets, but they are releasing a honeycomb update for phones eventually.
*facedesk*
Just assume that you're not getting 2.3 from Sprint and HTC.
Quite simply, nobody from HTC or Sprint has said anything about when 2.3 will be arriving for EVO, or if it even will. Nobody knows. All the talk on XDA is just pure speculation.
In Q4, 2011, Google intend to combine Honeycomb for tables and Gingerbread for smart phones into one universal OS. Ice Cream Sandwich.
Developers will be able to account for all form factors within this same version of the OS. This seems to be the end of the OS fragmentation that has plagued the Android system since its release! The announcement has been made around the same time that Windows Phone manufacturers Microsoft announce a universal OS in the form of Windows 8, and Apple's iOS5, which means universal operating systems are the way of the future. But the question is, will the Defy get some?
Source:
http://motoroladefy.com/index.php?/topic/247-ice-cream-sandwich-is-coming/
Source:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-announces-ice-cream-sadwich-for-q4-2011-for-smartphones/
Guys I'm Really Excited!!!!!!!!!!
We may not even get Gingerbread (the leaked one is supposedly for developing for the defy2). I wouldn't get my hopes high for Icecream at all.
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We may not even get Gingerbread (the leaked one is supposedly for developing for the defy2). I wouldn't get my hopes high for Icecream at all.
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no way man! telus just released a version of the defy a couple of months ago.we've got at least two more years of love coming!
i am hoping as well... but here in indonesia, not even gingerbread
There's absolutely no point in getting excited till there's even confirmation of getting Gingerbread.
Right, Q4 huh... so that's end of the year. Then add a few months of delays and small scale release, that's mid 2012. Then add a year on that for motorola being slowpokes with new releases.... that's mid 2013. I don't know about you, but as much as I love my defy I'll probably be having a new phone around then rather than getting excited over what will at that point already be old news.
SWAT AXEL said:
In Q4, 2011, Google intend to combine Honeycomb for tables and Gingerbread for smart phones into one universal OS. Ice Cream Sandwich.
Developers will be able to account for all form factors within this same version of the OS. This seems to be the end of the OS fragmentation that has plagued the Android system since its release! The announcement has been made around the same time that Windows Phone manufacturers Microsoft announce a universal OS in the form of Windows 8, and Apple's iOS5, which means universal operating systems are the way of the future. But the question is, will the Defy get some?
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http://motoroladefy.com/index.php?/topic/247-ice-cream-sandwich-is-coming/
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-announces-ice-cream-sadwich-for-q4-2011-for-smartphones/
Guys I'm Really Excited!!!!!!!!!!
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I dont expect an official version of ice cream for my defy, Just hope Quarx or some other developer would be able to port i.. I'm sure my defy would be compatible for ice cream as well..
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Right, Q4 huh... so that's end of the year. Then add a few months of delays and small scale release, that's mid 2012. Then add a year on that for motorola being slowpokes with new releases.... that's mid 2013. I don't know about you, but as much as I love my defy I'll probably be having a new phone around then rather than getting excited over what will at that point already be old news.
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Man you said the right situation in motorola process , BUT even if they didn't release it for defy , they might unlock the bootloader, like samsung galaxy S2.
tAKE lOOK Here:
Samsung Sends Free Galaxy S2 To Hackers For Inspiration
According to the company, it has already sent a free Galaxy S2 to the CyanogenMod team as part of the plan.
http://www.itproportal.com/2011/06/13/samsung-sends-free-galaxy-s2-hackers-inspiration/#8
so i hope we can wait for something cool later time.
It's still possible, when CyanogenMod 8 comes...
Maybe this?
Ok so maybe Motorola will launch a new Defy. This time more powerful. So we will buy it and have that with running Android 4 and this one as an old phone with CM version of the new Android tweaked for it.
I personally use 2 phones. Primary smartphone Defy and secondly a phone only Nokia (no camera, radio, internet). But i would like using 2 smartphones. Actually that is the future. So in my case i can wait for a Defy2 and than keep this as well
Keep in mind that a smartphone's life is somewhere between 2-4 years. Battery/hardware and software wise . But who knows the Defy can prove even more resistant ....
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This seems to be the end of the OS fragmentation that has plagued the Android system since its release!
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The current fragmentation issue has nothing to do with Tablet and Handset form factors. I understood fragmentation is about manufacturers putting too much layers on top of OS to make their own version of Android i.e. Sense, TouchWhiz, Motorla, and so on.
User experience is a science, now imagine how much damage these manufacturers do to an OS that no one would want to learn how to use them. That is why many people would want to use handsets from the same manufacturer. Android introduced a new market and after few years everyone involved realising the cons and pros of it as no one had the experience working in such market model before.
My prediction is... Most manufacturers will give up putting their own layers for three main reasons:
1. Manufactures eventually can't catch up with the progress of Android's development and it would become a complex and expensive process to have.
2. The cost of hardware will significantly will be reduced, that means smaller manufactures giving stock Android start stealing market from the big boys.
3. Future Android versions would become rich in user experience that the cost of putting layers on top of already a rich interface is no longer justifiable.
and hopefully with this, release of OS will be much faster due to the more vanilla usage of Android instead of each company spending time and money on 'fragmenting' the OS....and devs like the MIUI and CM guys (plus all the other solo devs) can start porting it over much faster and easier.....and leave the fragmenting and customising to the community!
true
but if each developer releasing their own os like miui and cmd and etc you will never have stability in the os.
thats why i always stick to the official os.
((consider Camera issues and AGps fixes plus notworking parts in os properly))
Ice Cream Sandwich will be released this October/November.. There's even a Nexus S shipped on EBay which has ICS!!!!! Here it is!!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3Pb6IyFvfg&feature=player_embedded
I'm really hoping to see it on Motorola Defy!!
Btw I noticed that all Android versions have a codename based on deserts..
Cupcake 1.5
Donut 1.6
Eclair (a cake) 2.1
Froyo (frozen yogurt) 2.2
Gingerbread 2.3
Honeycomb 3.0
Ice Cream Sandwich 2.4/4.0
lol
I think there will be a custom rom, but i don´t think we get it official.
Sorry for my bad English!
Julian
I don't think T-Mobile US Defy owners will ever see an official Gingerbread update, or anyone else for that matter.
Why would Motorola put one out when Defy+ is here? Defy team was moved to working on Defy+ long ago, that's why we still have a buggy official Froyo. They're just not working on Defy any longer.
They re-released the Defy calling it a Defy+ for the sake of a Gingerbread update. What makes you think they wont do the same for ICS. And ofcourse the Defy wont even get Gingerbread forget ICS.
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there is no question of getting official GB update in future. But I m sure there will be CM8 for defy
Anyway, CM8 sounds way better than a crappy ICS released by Motorola .
cannot w8 4 the ICS . even if our defy will not get an ICS update i'll buy a new phone
hey guys any news about official 2.3 coming on defy ???
thanx in advanced
i dont think they will release an official 2.3 to defy...defy+ will be launched very soon...which comes with GB..
AFAIK they are busy with the 2.3 Defy-upgrade, so it may come.
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AFAIK they are busy with the 2.3 Defy-upgrade, so it may come.
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where did u get that news ? ofcourse its on air news flying here and there that gingerbread update is on d way . bt no concrete news regarding it . so asking in a way is there any proof regarding that ?
The presently available gingerbread updates(leaked) are for defy plus..
If they were going to offer an official update for defy it would have supported GREEN LENS cameras as well because they can't just abandon green lens defy.
Since green lens is not supported it looks like official 2.3 will be made available only for defy plus.
Short answer: Never
But i think on red lens devices, the defy+ rom will work smoothly
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insomaniac.droid said:
Short answer: Never
But i think on red lens devices, the defy+ rom will work smoothly
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ah !! too pessimistic... atleast have some hope !! better than having nothing in your hand ... and to be frank . if GB update rumor wasnt around on air . we wd have never got the GB leaks so who knows the green lens owners might be lucky enough
Motorola said it on official forum,there isn't any plan to update the Defy beyond FroYo.
Install Motoginger and be happy.
Install Motoginger and be happy.
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Motorola said it on official forum,there isn't any plan to update the Defy beyond FroYo.
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Well, HTC said some crap like that about the Desire not getting 2.3 - they changed their mind a little bit later.
I'll wait until it appears here what will happen to the Defy regarding the elusive Gingerbread update.
i hope that`s true...i`m using custom roms now but will be nice to have official ginger on defy...maybe the devs will make wonders from it
Who cares if bootloader gets hacked and CM7.1 is there.
I care, because the Defy with green lens will be fully supported. Nevertheless, CM7 is a great option too.
Just a thought, even if they are pretty similar devices, shouldn't there be a defy+ forum?
Thing is, the forum feels a little messy with both phones in it.
I think it will be useful too
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Lol its the same phone
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Deformat said:
Just a thought, even if they are pretty similar devices, shouldn't there be a defy+ forum?
Thing is, the forum feels a little messy with both phones in it.
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the only difference is that the defy+ roms dont include the module for the soc module (which most of the defys have). other than that, they are similar devices. i dont see why we should create a new forum, that would be a lot more messy.
At this time the Defy and Defy+ are very similar, so we don't need a Defy+ forum. But Google said that ALL devices running on 2.3 Gingerbread WILL GET ICE CREAM SANDWICH!
> http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/google-confirms-nexus-s-will-get-ice-cream-sandwich-for-real/
The Defy+ have 2.3 and born with it! So, the Defy+ will get Ice cream Sandwich, and when the Defy+ will run on ICS, at this time we will need a Defy+ forum! Because we can't have a same forum for two devices with one on 2.2 and other on 4.0...
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Motorola, unlock OUR bootloaders
I think we at least need a subforum.
Now its not very clear what roms are compatible with the Defy +
We've litterally got the same phones a part from different lenses and a stock overclock so i consider the Defy+ as a Defy, and commercially, as an opportunity for Motorola to take the p*ss xD
(Maybe a subforum...maybe..^^)
Wait ICS on Defy+ for a Defy+ forum
Raphael, you didn't read correctly : MOST, not ALL 2.3 devices will get ICS.
As for the subforum idea I'm all for it.
Yes but:
Some devices born in 2.2 and update on 2.3 will get ICS
The Defy+ have 2.3 and is BORN in 2.3
A device have minimum one update, Motorola give always one update + Motorola is Google now
= Defy+ will have ICS!
raphael.xda said:
Yes but:
Some devices born in 2.2 and update on 2.3 will get ICS
The Defy+ have 2.3 and is BORN in 2.3
A device have minimum one update, Motorola give always one update + Motorola is Google now
= Defy+ will have ICS!
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There is no minimum # of updates on a device. Sadly, there are several current 2.3 devices that look fairly unlikely to get ICS.
Motorola Have published update info ics.
Here is the defy part.
DEFY MB525 (Europe & MEA)
Will remain on Android 2.2.
DEFY+ MB526
Will remain on Android 2.3.
DEFY MINI
Will remain on Android 2.3.
So its all down to the Cyan guys.
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Sucks!!
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No problem. As long as they just unlock the bootloader, as intended in Q4 2011, it's okay.
One word... Rage.
Why Pro+ is getting ICS with almost the same processor!!??
headhod said:
One word... Rage.
Why Pro+ is getting ICS with almost the same processor!!??
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my UK Atrix isn't even getting it and has a dual core.
They should unlock boot loaders and give out all the lib and binary files for non supported devices.
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yes but something tells me that they dont give a s** about us
I don't get why the defy mini has gb and the defy doesn't.
The defy mini has a 600mhz CPU
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Where's the rule about following updates untill 18months after the phone is released?!
As far as i know, defy+ is younger than 18months and defy mini is only 2/3 months old! :O
Motorola really are assholes
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crakeron said:
Where's the rule about following updates untill 18months after the phone is released?!
As far as i know, defy+ is younger than 18months and defy mini is only 2/3 months old! :O
Motorola really are assholes
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Yer mobile alliance or something. Motorola was a founding member.
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headhod said:
One word... Rage.
Why Pro+ is getting ICS with almost the same processor!!??
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Pro+ : MSM CPU
Pro : OMAP3630
What? Were you actually still hoping? I guess hope does die last...
I think I'll start searching for a second hand Desire Z...
Good bye Motorola!
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What? Were you actually still hoping? I guess hope does die last...
I think I'll start searching for a second hand Desire Z...
Good bye Motorola!
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Desire z with the g2 rom (asop) would be a great phone. Not a fan of sense.
All hope has gone that was the last nail on the coffin. I will always use cyan but would be nice for updated libs and bits.
Think now my defy and atrix arnt getting updates and never have. I wont be buying Motorola again. Love the hardware but blur sucks aand no updates is a real deal breaker.
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Stupid
Just when we tought Moto's buy by Google will change smth. Maybe it's to early for that.
Regarding the update i think there are some minimal requirements for Android 4.0. And they give you the same bull**** Samsung and HTC gave. The hw does not support Android 4.0, the hardware does not support Android 4.0 with our interface.
But this doesn't make sense. Acording to their update schedule they release ICS for similar devices just because they are new. For example the original Atrix gets nothing inspite it's dual core, 1 GB RAM.
The human thing to do is open the bootloader. But that's not going to happen is it?
So goodbye Moto, welcome back HTC for me... I wll keep the defy because it' such a nice phone. Still the RAZR MAXX is great, i love the battery. Hope it doesn't even come to Europe so i won't regret not buying it.
motorolaaaaaaagh
This means not only Defy+ wont have ICS, but also not a single OS update for Defy+.... I'm really disappointed, Motorola...
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This means not only Defy+ wont have ICS, but also not a single OS update for Defy+.... I'm really disappointed, Motorola...
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Its like they don`t want repeat customers.
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For example the original Atrix gets nothing inspite it's dual core, 1 GB RAM.
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for atrix it says right there: ICS Upgrade in planning. Further details to follow.
from this i understand that atrix will get ics later on.
the only thing we can do now is support for unlocked bootloader petition...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426512&highlight=petition
that way we can help devs
Atleast defy+ guys can put Motorola in Mess by applying consumer courts because of there 18 months update policy.... But no hopes for Defy .....
diug said:
for atrix it says right there: ICS Upgrade in planning. Further details to follow.
from this i understand that atrix will get ics later on.
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from this I understand that they will leave it long enough for people to forget about getting a update.
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Perhaps they will update the droid 2/ milestone 2, so we can have updated libs and so