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Will Desire Get officially Android 3.0 (Gingerbread)

Do you think that HTC Desire will get Android 3.0 (Gingerbread) officially?

rackspace said:
Do you think that HTC Desire will get Android 3.0 (Gingerbread) officially?
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NO .........

what about Nexus One, will it has the upgrade to Android 3 Officially

No ...
And I won't tell you the reason.
rackspace said:
Do you think that HTC Desire will get Android 3.0 (Gingerbread) officially?
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gwassef said:
what about Nexus One, will it has the upgrade to Android 3 Officially
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that depends if google decides to continue to support the n1, i can guarantee you htc wont support the desire after froyo tho

AndroHero said:
that depends if google decides to continue to support the n1, i can guarantee you htc wont support the desire after froyo tho
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Then this is why we got custom roms. So I'm sure it will be ported some way.
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yeah, HTC Desire will not support Gingerbread. Froyo will be the last Android update to Desire.
Gingerbread won't be out till January 2011 earliest. It will be a major change in UI and function over the Android 2.X strand. Desire would need 6 months to port it over. It also might not be easy to implement Sense UI on Gingerbread. Plus, new HTC phones will be due out in Q2 of 2011 I would guess, so Froyo will be last update on Desire.

mcgon1979 said:
yeah, HTC Desire will not support Gingerbread. Froyo will be the last Android update to Desire.
Gingerbread won't be out till January 2011 earliest. It will be a major change in UI and function over the Android 2.X strand. Desire would need 6 months to port it over. It also might not be easy to implement Sense UI on Gingerbread. Plus, new HTC phones will be due out in Q2 of 2011 I would guess, so Froyo will be last update on Desire.
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Thats sad ....

mcgon1979 said:
yeah, HTC Desire will not support Gingerbread. Froyo will be the last Android update to Desire.
Gingerbread won't be out till January 2011 earliest. It will be a major change in UI and function over the Android 2.X strand. Desire would need 6 months to port it over. It also might not be easy to implement Sense UI on Gingerbread. Plus, new HTC phones will be due out in Q2 of 2011 I would guess, so Froyo will be last update on Desire.
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As far as Google said that Android 3.0 would make UI peronalizations remain needless, there is no need for HTC to port Sense UI, isn't?

pr0orz1337 said:
As far as Google said that Android 3.0 would make UI peronalizations remain needless, there is no need for HTC to port Sense UI, isn't?
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Well you will most likely still need the drivers from HTC for it to work.

Giland said:
Well you will most likely still need the drivers from HTC for it to work.
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Then use the drivers from Froyo to Gingerbread.
It would just be like using Windows Vista drivers on Windows 7....... Easy enough.

well, lets just wait 8 or 9 months and see

mcgon1979 said:
well, lets just wait 8 or 9 months and see
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yes, that can be done.
but if gingerbread is not coming to desire, i may liquidate this mobile set before it gets too old and get a new one

"Will the Desire get Gingerbread"??? - from HTC, I doubt it...
from XDA - somehow I think it will... can you imagine it all those devs working away thinking "new OS to play with on my Desire, no thanks!"... lol

atomfix said:
Then use the drivers from Froyo to Gingerbread.
It would just be like using Windows Vista drivers on Windows 7....... Easy enough.
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Unfortunately, no it's not.

abc27 said:
Unfortunately, no it's not.
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Then how is that?
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The only thing Desire lacks from hardware is the internal memory. HTC definitely should work for Gingerbread update on recent models like Desire HD/Desire Z. If thats done porting that to Desire will not be too difficult using A2SD. Yea for some drivers it will be problem. Still I hope xda-devs can do that in few months. As far as official support is concerned I guess Desire will get an update from HTC for either the new Sense UI (as heard from lot of rumors) or a delayed Gingerbread support with less functions or UI features etc. At least Gingerbread is not too heavy update on Froyo. So I guess the fortune of Desire is not too dull unless HTC decides to archive it.
I don't feel like liquidating this nice piece of hardware before Honycomb arrives.

It's been seen running on N1 via submitted AirBench test, so Desire users will get it from the N1 release.

Hi
I just contacted htc support and asked them about the gingerbread. They replied me in this way:
With regards to your enquiry, Kindly note that all we have that gingerbread will be released,but we didn’t get specific information yet about the upgradeable device and regions as they are still testing the compatibility with all devices to decide the applicable devices.

Crikey... If HTC don't release 3.0 for the Desire, it'd be a pretty poor show... Being outdone by Apple?! After all, everything bar the iPhone 2G supports iOS4!

Desire 2.4 and 3.0

Hi there. I have been thinking, if there is android 2.4 rom for HTC Desire. I am using cyanogen mod 7 (2.3.3) and I am satisfied with it, but I want the latest one. And also is there any stable release of honeycomb around there?
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The simple answer for both questions is "No".
2.3 is the latest, 2.4 probably won't be out sometime. If it were you'd see it in the dev section.
Honeycomb is for tablets. If you want it, buy a tablet. There are devs working on porting it to the Desire, but to be honest, I don't see the point.

2.4 is 2.3 for dual core phones (not desire) 3.0 is 2.3 for tablet both are pointless on desire you would notice no difference to 2.3

Thank you very much. I will buy tablet with honeycomb, but I just wanted to try it out on my Desire. And I thought 2.4 was for every phone, but thanks for correcting me.

bob1369 said:
2.4 is 2.3 for dual core phones (not desire) 3.0 is 2.3 for tablet both are pointless on desire you would notice no difference to 2.3
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¿?
Sorry, but no
Probable, 2.4 will be a first implementation of some of the 3.0 features to phones, not only for dual core phones!! Im pretty sure that HTC will release a 2.4 for Desire.

bob1369 said:
2.4 is 2.3 for dual core phones (not desire) 3.0 is 2.3 for tablet both are pointless on desire you would notice no difference to 2.3
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Looks to me like thats pure assumption. 2.3 is not 3.0.
Neither is 2.4 2.3 for dual cores.
It is speculated that 2.4 will support dual core phones.
However there is nothing officially stating any of the above, so I'm not sure where this info of yours comes from.

3.0 was built from scratch purely for tablets, it has absolutely nothing to do with any previous version.
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Barnabas4ever said:
Hi there. I have been thinking, if there is android 2.4 rom for HTC Desire. I am using cyanogen mod 7 (2.3.3) and I am satisfied with it, but I want the latest one. And also is there any stable release of honeycomb around there?
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it is possible to flash the honeycomb port to your desire if you desperatelty want 2 test it al though allotta features wont work. but if u r in it just to get a look at honeycomb, give her a try

Terepin said:
3.0 was built from scratch purely for tablets, it has absolutely nothing to do with any previous version.
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Where do you get this from? It's certainly not built from scratch. A couple of devs even think that the reason Google is not releasing the source code of 3.0 is because it's just a bunch of hacks.

2.3 and 2.4 are so similar that some manufacturers don't bother differentiating between them it's mainly sn update for developers and compatibility with 3.0 which is simply for larger screens e.g. ui changes and modified api's

Afaik Google renamed version 2.4 you saw on a device on mwc in Barcelona to 2.3.3 because there were too little changes from the first release of gingerbread on the nexus s to "2.4"
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bob1369 said:
2.3 and 2.4 are so similar that some manufacturers don't bother differentiating between them it's mainly sn update for developers and compatibility with 3.0 which is simply for larger screens e.g. ui changes and modified api's
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Pure speculation.
Source?

mr_norris said:
Pure speculation.
Source?
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Engadget claimed HTC were describing ll their phones as 2.3 when some actually run a version normally referred to as 2.4 they said this was to avoid confusion, personally i would have called them all 2.4

bob1369 said:
Engadget claimed HTC were describing ll their phones as 2.3 when some actually run a version normally referred to as 2.4 they said this was to avoid confusion, personally i would have called them all 2.4
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if im still wrong im sorry but i do know the difference isn't great

bob1369 said:
2.3 and 2.4 are so similar that some manufacturers don't bother differentiating between them it's mainly sn update for developers and compatibility with 3.0 which is simply for larger screens e.g. ui changes and modified api's
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2.4 is nothing more than 2.3 with dual-core support. And it isn't out yet.

Im sure we will get an icecream port which is just like honeycomb for phones.
this is a quote out of some news i read. some of you probably already know this
but for those that dont this could be usefull :
Details on Ice Cream
According to an interview between PhoneScoop and Google Android Engineering Director Dave Burke, Ice Cream will bring Honeycomb's "Action Bar" to Gingerbread. This is the bar that brings the contextual, app-specific buttons to the top of the screen.
Burke also said that Honeycomb's "System Bar" (the bar at the bottom) may not come to phones, but would remain a tablet-only feature. The hologram-esque visual styling found in Honeycomb will arrive in Ice Cream, though, as will Honeycomb's multi-tasking app switcher functionality.

Ice Cream Sandwich is Coming..COULD BE FOR DEFY?

In Q4, 2011, Google intend to combine Honeycomb for tables and Gingerbread for smart phones into one universal OS. Ice Cream Sandwich.
Developers will be able to account for all form factors within this same version of the OS. This seems to be the end of the OS fragmentation that has plagued the Android system since its release! The announcement has been made around the same time that Windows Phone manufacturers Microsoft announce a universal OS in the form of Windows 8, and Apple's iOS5, which means universal operating systems are the way of the future. But the question is, will the Defy get some?
Source:
http://motoroladefy.com/index.php?/topic/247-ice-cream-sandwich-is-coming/
Source:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-announces-ice-cream-sadwich-for-q4-2011-for-smartphones/
Guys I'm Really Excited!!!!!!!!!!

We may not even get Gingerbread (the leaked one is supposedly for developing for the defy2). I wouldn't get my hopes high for Icecream at all.

confusedfella said:
We may not even get Gingerbread (the leaked one is supposedly for developing for the defy2). I wouldn't get my hopes high for Icecream at all.
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no way man! telus just released a version of the defy a couple of months ago.we've got at least two more years of love coming!

i am hoping as well... but here in indonesia, not even gingerbread

There's absolutely no point in getting excited till there's even confirmation of getting Gingerbread.

Right, Q4 huh... so that's end of the year. Then add a few months of delays and small scale release, that's mid 2012. Then add a year on that for motorola being slowpokes with new releases.... that's mid 2013. I don't know about you, but as much as I love my defy I'll probably be having a new phone around then rather than getting excited over what will at that point already be old news.

SWAT AXEL said:
In Q4, 2011, Google intend to combine Honeycomb for tables and Gingerbread for smart phones into one universal OS. Ice Cream Sandwich.
Developers will be able to account for all form factors within this same version of the OS. This seems to be the end of the OS fragmentation that has plagued the Android system since its release! The announcement has been made around the same time that Windows Phone manufacturers Microsoft announce a universal OS in the form of Windows 8, and Apple's iOS5, which means universal operating systems are the way of the future. But the question is, will the Defy get some?
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http://motoroladefy.com/index.php?/topic/247-ice-cream-sandwich-is-coming/
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-announces-ice-cream-sadwich-for-q4-2011-for-smartphones/
Guys I'm Really Excited!!!!!!!!!!
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I dont expect an official version of ice cream for my defy, Just hope Quarx or some other developer would be able to port i.. I'm sure my defy would be compatible for ice cream as well..

Cederic said:
Right, Q4 huh... so that's end of the year. Then add a few months of delays and small scale release, that's mid 2012. Then add a year on that for motorola being slowpokes with new releases.... that's mid 2013. I don't know about you, but as much as I love my defy I'll probably be having a new phone around then rather than getting excited over what will at that point already be old news.
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Man you said the right situation in motorola process , BUT even if they didn't release it for defy , they might unlock the bootloader, like samsung galaxy S2.
tAKE lOOK Here:
Samsung Sends Free Galaxy S2 To Hackers For Inspiration
According to the company, it has already sent a free Galaxy S2 to the CyanogenMod team as part of the plan.
http://www.itproportal.com/2011/06/13/samsung-sends-free-galaxy-s2-hackers-inspiration/#8
so i hope we can wait for something cool later time.

It's still possible, when CyanogenMod 8 comes...

Maybe this?
Ok so maybe Motorola will launch a new Defy. This time more powerful. So we will buy it and have that with running Android 4 and this one as an old phone with CM version of the new Android tweaked for it.
I personally use 2 phones. Primary smartphone Defy and secondly a phone only Nokia (no camera, radio, internet). But i would like using 2 smartphones. Actually that is the future. So in my case i can wait for a Defy2 and than keep this as well
Keep in mind that a smartphone's life is somewhere between 2-4 years. Battery/hardware and software wise . But who knows the Defy can prove even more resistant ....

SWAT AXEL said:
This seems to be the end of the OS fragmentation that has plagued the Android system since its release!
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The current fragmentation issue has nothing to do with Tablet and Handset form factors. I understood fragmentation is about manufacturers putting too much layers on top of OS to make their own version of Android i.e. Sense, TouchWhiz, Motorla, and so on.
User experience is a science, now imagine how much damage these manufacturers do to an OS that no one would want to learn how to use them. That is why many people would want to use handsets from the same manufacturer. Android introduced a new market and after few years everyone involved realising the cons and pros of it as no one had the experience working in such market model before.
My prediction is... Most manufacturers will give up putting their own layers for three main reasons:
1. Manufactures eventually can't catch up with the progress of Android's development and it would become a complex and expensive process to have.
2. The cost of hardware will significantly will be reduced, that means smaller manufactures giving stock Android start stealing market from the big boys.
3. Future Android versions would become rich in user experience that the cost of putting layers on top of already a rich interface is no longer justifiable.

and hopefully with this, release of OS will be much faster due to the more vanilla usage of Android instead of each company spending time and money on 'fragmenting' the OS....and devs like the MIUI and CM guys (plus all the other solo devs) can start porting it over much faster and easier.....and leave the fragmenting and customising to the community!

true
but if each developer releasing their own os like miui and cmd and etc you will never have stability in the os.
thats why i always stick to the official os.
((consider Camera issues and AGps fixes plus notworking parts in os properly))

Ice Cream Sandwich will be released this October/November.. There's even a Nexus S shipped on EBay which has ICS!!!!! Here it is!!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3Pb6IyFvfg&feature=player_embedded
I'm really hoping to see it on Motorola Defy!!
Btw I noticed that all Android versions have a codename based on deserts..
Cupcake 1.5
Donut 1.6
Eclair (a cake) 2.1
Froyo (frozen yogurt) 2.2
Gingerbread 2.3
Honeycomb 3.0
Ice Cream Sandwich 2.4/4.0
lol

I think there will be a custom rom, but i don´t think we get it official.
Sorry for my bad English!
Julian

I don't think T-Mobile US Defy owners will ever see an official Gingerbread update, or anyone else for that matter.
Why would Motorola put one out when Defy+ is here? Defy team was moved to working on Defy+ long ago, that's why we still have a buggy official Froyo. They're just not working on Defy any longer.

They re-released the Defy calling it a Defy+ for the sake of a Gingerbread update. What makes you think they wont do the same for ICS. And ofcourse the Defy wont even get Gingerbread forget ICS.
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there is no question of getting official GB update in future. But I m sure there will be CM8 for defy

Anyway, CM8 sounds way better than a crappy ICS released by Motorola .

cannot w8 4 the ICS . even if our defy will not get an ICS update i'll buy a new phone

[Q] Android 4.0

Any chance of a tasty Ice Cream Sandwich please for the Hero ?
thanks to elelinux for a great rom

should be possible after the release of the source code (maybe next month?).
without the source it looks for me that it won't be possible to boot the emulator image on our hero, because it is compiled for armeabi-v7a (snapdragon cpu) only.

thank you for your post
booooo sounds like time for an upgrade

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should be possible after the release of the source code (maybe next month?).
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I think source code was already released
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-4.0.html

That's different. SDK is not kernel source. That's why most honeycomb Ports aren't complete. No source was released.
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Loxxy said:
Any chance of a tasty Ice Cream Sandwich please for the Hero ?
thanks to elelinux for a great rom
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Maybe someone can get it to run. but I don't get my hopes up if I where you. if you look at 2.3 how that runs on the hero comparing to 2.2 and mostly 2.1. And 4.0 even more stuffed then I guess not

touch wood, 2.3.7 is working well for me on my Hero (dont really to upgrade just to get Android 4.0)
But keeping an eye on some HTC Desires on ebay nonetheless

Lirasina said:
Maybe someone can get it to run.
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it probably will run. just wait for the source to be released.

I hope for a Vanilla 4.0, with no heavy CM mods

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it probably will run. just wait for the source to be released.
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I thinks so too.
I remember when on this forum we were discussing about porting Froyo 2.2. on the Hero...lol...

Its not long since the GB rom's were considered too fat for the hero. Look at us now..... mines has never been so quick.
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I completely agree with Prof Peach. GB was slow on first releases and now it flies so maybe it's hope for 4.0 too when the sources come out and them maybe it will boot on our Hero after the devs cast their magic.

yea, but don't forget the one and only honeycomb rom for gsm hero which JieeHD (I think) created from the sdk...
YES it was from sdk and so it was a miracle it ran at all, but it was SO slow that you couldn't even try the UI features of the rom. No the hardware didn't work at all, no data, wifi, etc, and that is all because it came from the sdk. That wasn't the purpose of the sdk build. It was just to play with the honeycomb UI, but even then the UI should have run alright if it was ever going to run on the hero.
However that rom (which I still have kicking around somewhere) showed me just how honeycomb was clearly made to run on much more powerful hardware than even gingerbread requires.
So I personally will be very surprised if it works well enough for daily use.
But then I'm running a gingerbread rom that is fast enough for daily use and perfectly stable... and I bet against that every happening back in teh day LoL.
I've been wrong before, and I hope you guys can prove me wrong again. I'm always happy to be wrong when I'm being pessimistic!

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To upgrade or not to upgrade?​ This is the big question for the android community!!!!
It will run on the hero, but since phones are getting bigger, i think it's gonna be kind of weird to run 4.0... We will have to see it ported firts
As far from what i see and what the google guys reported...every phone that can run GB can run ICS... so that means that there can't be a big problem to run the os, and since the nexus S will receive the update, that means that there is a way to disable the on screen buttons...
For the moment we stick with what we have !!! And we have to THANKS the devs that keep this phone alive. As for the part with upgrading to a new phone, i think we have to wait for the next gen of processors (quad core) or buy phones like nexus S that now are on slim prices
PS: since i got my tablet, i'm not so much into getting a new phone
Stefan

yea, tablets are awesome. Same here - I've used many android tablets and my employer supplies apple devices for my dev work at one company.
Tablets are awesome if you truly embrace them and buy whatever options you need to use them as virtual laptops effectively.

Agree with dkelley...if you have places where you can use them, it's better to have one...i use mine all the time, from movies and finishing with reading stuff.
I have to admin i was thinking on to buy a desire Hd / Nexus S...but not so shure
Stefan

yeah i love my Hero to bits, cost me £50 with Android 1.6 pre installed on it from some guy at work lol.
Whilst i can appreciate its an old handset etc etc, its running gingerbread like a dream, so would love to see the 'consolidated' release of 4.0 on there, i feel google will have dropped a legacy beat if only snapdragon cpus are supported.
admins feel free to move this to the Q&A sub-forum if required

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i think we have to wait for the next gen of processors (quad core)
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This is why I didn't upgrade my phone yet!
I would like to get a beast with 1200x800 display resolution, android 4.0 with the new Quad-Core CPU...
Basically, almost a gaming machine...

yukinok25 said:
This is why I didn't upgrade my phone yet!
I would like to get a beast with 1200x800 display resolution, android 4.0 with the new Quad-Core CPU...
Basically, almost a gaming machine...
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For me the Hero is a phone. and nothing more. It is a little smarter phone then my moms. She can text and call. I can do that and I can also send mail check agenda and navigate some. That is what I use my phone for. If I need more then I will use my laptop anyway. So the Hero with some easy rom is fine for me.
Android 4.0 will bring problems and stuff that I will never use anyway. If you look at most devs on the Hero forum. They are good porters and breakers of things. I am the last one, a breaker XD There are still a half hand full of devs for the Hero.
I think the CDMA will have 4.0 sooner then the Hero. But that is just my oppinion. If they ever get it...

And is there an upgrade for sgs2?
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Will we ever get Sense 3.0?

Well the HTC Incredible S seems like they are getting Sense 3.0 according to this.
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/htc-incredible-s-to-get-official-sense-3-0-update.html
Does that mean the HTC Incredible 2 will also be getting it?

I would think we will. Unoffically we already have Sense 3.0 as well as 3.5. So Htc is a little behind our devs on the releases

No. HTC has officially said no phone older than the HTC Sensation and EVO 3D will be getting Sense 3.0. They've all been backported from phones that are qHD and higher, and they said that they won't be porting it to WVGA resolution phones.
While that Incredible S tweet is pretty surprising, it still leaves doubt in my mind whether we will get 3.0 or not.

The Desire S is older than the 3Dvo and the Sensation and it got Sense 3.0. Also, if you ask on HTC's facebook wall something along the lines of "Is the Incredible 2 getting Sense 3.0", the response is something like "We are working to bring at least parts of the new version of Sense to older devices."

They're probably making an official skyraider like update.
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No. HTC has officially said no phone older than the HTC Sensation and EVO 3D will be getting Sense 3.0. They've all been backported from phones that are qHD and higher, and they said that they won't be porting it to WVGA resolution phones.
While that Incredible S tweet is pretty surprising, it still leaves doubt in my mind whether we will get 3.0 or not.
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really? cuz the desire s, desire hd, and inspire 4g all phones *older* than the inc2 and running very similar if not more outdated hardware and wvga res all have it officially by ota with the last 2 months...where do you think we've been getting the sense 3 roms to port from?
now official sense 3.5 will never happen id imagine for this phone...but if the inc s gets it via ota, we will as well (probably not til 2012 though when we ll be complaining about no ics yet)

PacerguyDon said:
I would think we will. Unoffically we already have Sense 3.0 as well as 3.5. So Htc is a little behind our devs on the releases
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If HTC operated in the manner things do here they'd be out of business. They're QA testing is probably pretty rigorous when it comes to updates and they can't just roll out an update with "Please let us know of any bugs!". That works for an environment like this where people are willing to work through and deal with issues but this is only a small small percentage of their market.

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If HTC operated in the manner things do here they'd be out of business. They're QA testing is probably pretty rigorous when it comes to updates and they can't just roll out an update with "Please let us know of any bugs!". That works for an environment like this where people are willing to work through and deal with issues but this is only a small small percentage of their market.
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htc is generally pretty good about updates (i really didnt think the og inc would get gb officially which it did...boads well for eventual ics sense on this phone)
with the exception of the tbolt gingerbread disaster of course
my only gripe would be that they tend treat similar devices a tad differently...we were getting a sense 2.1 ota to 2.3.4 while the desire hd and desire s had already gotten a 2.3.5 sense 3.0 ota
i guess we could put the blame on verizon for that (hey why not) but idk