If I was to root my phone with s-on using htcdev, would I then be able to switch to s-off when it is released and have my warranty back? Thanks.
UnixxinU said:
If I was to root my phone with s-on using htcdev, would I then be able to switch to s-off when it is released and have my warranty back? Thanks.
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from reading from other threads if you do unlock from htcdev unfortunately even if you do switch to s-off you already have unlocked through htcdev and i think they keep your imei or something like that if i can remember..
so basically you unlock and they know who has done it through the site.
UnixxinU said:
If I was to root my phone with s-on using htcdev, would I then be able to switch to s-off when it is released and have my warranty back? Thanks.
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Most probably not.. I don't think its even possible to relock it properly after unlocking with htcdev, if you try it'll say 'relocked' in fast boot not 'locked'
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okay i had a whole bunch of problems with my evo 4g, so i cleaned everything up and restored it back to stock so that i can root and start over again....well in the process i did all the updates required, and i also did the OTA update to 2.3.5 with hboot 2.18, i DID NOT KNOW that we were not supposed to do this until now when i find that i cannot root it..how do i down grade or what do i have to do to root this damn thing now?
Someone show me how to downgrade my 2.3.5 back to froyo using Odin?
Can't downgrade. Only way to semi unlock the bootloader is using HTCdev
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evo4gnoob said:
Can't downgrade. Only way to semi unlock the bootloader is using HTCdev
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wow! so i just eff'd myself by updating then? right? there has to be another way, like an RUU or something
Middleasternplayer said:
wow! so i just eff'd myself by updating then? right? there has to be another way, like an RUU or something
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Unless your s-off with hboot 2.18 your SOL sorry. When you said you reverted to stock did you switch back to s-on also or just leave s-off?
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evo4gnoob said:
Unless your s-off with hboot 2.18 your SOL sorry. When you said you reverted to stock did you switch back to s-on also or just leave s-off?
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Switched back to S-On, so i unlocked my device per htcdev.com, what is next ?
Middleasternplayer said:
Switched back to S-On, so i unlocked my device per htcdev.com, what is next ?
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There's a thread that will explain the rest it might be a post or 2 under yours
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Middleasternplayer said:
Switched back to S-On, so i unlocked my device per htcdev.com, what is next ?
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how did you switch back? i do not see the evo 4g there for sprint. and i would like to root my phone again. i did the same thing you did. and kicking myself in the butt. i looked on HTCDev.com and my evo 4g (sprint) is not there. Did you use a different phone?
wfussner said:
how did you switch back? i do not see the evo 4g there for sprint. and i would like to root my phone again. i did the same thing you did. and kicking myself in the butt. i looked on HTCDev.com and my evo 4g (sprint) is not there. Did you use a different phone?
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Its not on the list but its supported since the bootloader says locked they just haven't updated it yet
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....and to get S-OFF, you need to follow the guide in my signature.
Is there a way of unlocking bootloader without using htc dev
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trippinz said:
Is there a way of unlocking bootloader without using htc dev
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Nope unfortunately not.
don't think so. It is the easiest way and also the official way.
But it can void your warranty (not if you are a developper apparently xD)
trippinz said:
Is there a way of unlocking bootloader without using htc dev
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No.
But you can install a custom ROM or root the phone without unlocking the bootloader if you can turn off the security check placed on the NAND storage (i.e S-ON). So far devs have not been able to turn off security (i.e S-OFF) on One X, but it will happen eventually. Till then you’ll have to unlock and potentially void your warranty to root or install a custom ROM.
I've rooted all my previous phones but this time I'm waiting for soff.
Am I right in thinking that when soff is released you can unlock your bootloader without htc dev?
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trippinz said:
I've rooted all my previous phones but this time I'm waiting for soff.
Am I right in thinking that when soff is released you can unlock your bootloader without htc dev?
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With S-Off you don't need to unlock the bootloader to root or install custom ROMs. That is one of the advantages, no bootloader unlock = no warranty issues. I waited for over a month monitoring S-Off development, but it wasn't really going anywhere. Tired of waiting, I just went ahead and unlocked the bootloader.
It took over a year for some HTC devices (i.e Desire) to gain S-Off, so you never know how long it'll take. But hopefully it'll happen soon...
xSilv85 said:
don't think so. It is the easiest way and also the official way.
But it can void your warranty (not if you are a developper apparently xD)
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how to say them that you are a dev?
Hi there.
I'm trying to understand what is s-on/s-off, can someone clear me out??
Thanks
Security-on security-off when s off you can root without unlocking and flash roms without the need of a pc
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joewong1991 said:
Security-on security-off when s off you can root without unlocking and flash roms without the need of a pc
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So how do i know if my phone is s-on or s-off? is about the bootleader menu if it sayis unlocked or locked?
Thankx
kalitza said:
So how do i know if my phone is s-on or s-off? is about the bootleader menu if it sayis unlocked or locked?
Thankx
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go to boot loader by pressing and holding down volume button and the power button
keep holding until you see the boot menu
in the the top of the screen it will be "Locked" or "Unlocked"
mmh5 said:
go to boot loader by pressing and holding down volume button and the power button
keep holding until you see the boot menu
in the the top of the screen it will be "Locked" or "Unlocked"
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Thank u for all info but for the last post, locked or unlocked is just for the bootloader, s-on or s-off is other thing, is to get access to the whole thing, from the info i got, if u get the s-off u dont need to flash boot.img and u get permanent root access and other stuff.
either way i would like to know if its already possible to switch from s-on to s-off.....
Thanks again
kalitza said:
Thank u for all info but for the last post, locked or unlocked is just for the bootloader, s-on or s-off is other thing, is to get access to the whole thing, from the info i got, if u get the s-off u dont need to flash boot.img and u get permanent root access and other stuff.
either way i would like to know if its already possible to switch from s-on to s-off.....
Thanks again
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No, there's no way to achieve S-Off if you didn't get it shipped with it.
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joewong1991 said:
Security-on security-off when s off you can root without unlocking and flash roms without the need of a pc
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So that basically means those with S-Off does not void the warranty because you do not unlock the bootloader?
Yes but its near impossible to achieve at the min but we do have to guys workin on it so hopefully soon
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joewong1991 said:
Yes but its near impossible to achieve at the min but we do have to guys workin on it so hopefully soon
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thank u all for the info.
Cheers
kalitza said:
thank u all for the info.
Cheers
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No problem just hit the thanks button
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DeniCevap said:
So that basically means those with S-Off does not void the warranty because you do not unlock the bootloader?
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S-Off can void warrenty, you can mess-up more then unlocked, because all parts of the memory can be reached. So if you mess-up your phone yourself because it's S-Off, you can loose warrenty.
One of my friend bought a HTC driod incredible 2.Not Verizon one.Problem is it's bootloder is LOCKED.Could anyone please tell me or lead me how to unlock it/flash another boot?orCan i unlock it via HTCDev site?
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TIA
I would start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28290166
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rabbid10 said:
I would start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28290166
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thanks for ur direction but i read it before & im just worried about LOCKED bootloder.I just can't find anything about it
Getting S-OFF is equivalent to unlocking the bootloader.
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rabbid10 said:
Getting S-OFF is equivalent to unlocking the bootloader.
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so LOCKED bootloader won't be affect on getting s-off,right?
crazykas said:
so LOCKED bootloader won't be affect on getting s-off,right?
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Locked is S-On if I'm not mistaken. Unlocked is S-Off.
antoniodz95 said:
Locked is S-On if I'm not mistaken. Unlocked is S-Off.
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Noop it is not.See the attachment bro..ahh..im afraid coz this is not my phone to take the risk..
crazykas said:
Noop it is not.See the attachment bro..ahh..im afraid coz this is not my phone to take the risk..
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I get your uneasiness, but in the simplest terms, if the bootloader is S-ON and not HTCDev unlocked, it is locked.
You can unlock the bootloader from the HTCDev website, but there are caveats for flashing custom ROMs, namely that the boot.img file needs to be extracted from the ROM and flashed separately using fastboot.
The easier approach is to use the methods outlined to gain S-OFF. This gives you more control not only to flash custom ROMs, but also unsigned radios.
I tried it both ways (HTCDev and S-OFF). I'm much happier being S-OFF.
This ^^^
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rabbid10 said:
I get your uneasiness, but in the simplest terms, if the bootloader is S-ON and not HTCDev unlocked, it is locked.
You can unlock the bootloader from the HTCDev website, but there are caveats for flashing custom ROMs, namely that the boot.img file needs to be extracted from the ROM and flashed separately using fastboot.
The easier approach is to use the methods outlined to gain S-OFF. This gives you more control not only to flash custom ROMs, but also unsigned radios.
I tried it both ways (HTCDev and S-OFF). I'm much happier being S-OFF.
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thanks alot..Im gonna do it...
Yeah my dinc was HTC unlocked I hated it. Went S off n now I gotta attend flashoholics anonymous. My girls Vivid in still S on n I gate putting new things on her phone. S off flash n get done with what u getta do.
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I have searched and there seems to be some different opinions on this.
If I get S-OFF and leave it locked and unrooted can I take the OTA update to Sense 6? Will the OTA mess with just S-OFF?
mcjca-droid said:
I have searched and there seems to be some different opinions on this.
If I get S-OFF and leave it locked and unrooted can I take the OTA update to Sense 6? Will the OTA mess with just S-OFF?
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Ok, so i went ahead and S-OFF'd and unlocked but kept the stock recovery. Can I safley take the OTA (sense 6) update since I have stock recovery without losing my S-OFF and Unlock?
THanks!
This has been said before. OTA will not mess with the section of the phone that has the secure flag or bootloader lock.
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Uzephi said:
This has been said before. OTA will not mess with the section of the phone that has the secure flag or bootloader lock.
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Thanks very much for the quick response.