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What distro of linux is your favorite??? I tried fedora linux for a week and, have tried other distros like openSUSE but, I always come back to ubuntu for some reason ( mostly for the ease of compiling android on it and, also because, I am so used to the interface. So again, what is your favorite distro? Is it one you made your self i.e linux from scratch or is it some other one?

Pinguy OS. It's based on Ubuntu with a bunch of extras added in.
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I tried multiple distros in the past year and ran fedora for a bit along with ubuntu and mandriva. Had issues with suse and several others that i didnt bother to troubleshoot. I have deployed several slax machines for public access for work booting from hard drive then running in ram. Old boxes but they run quick. Slax is cool because you can build your own live cd on their site.
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I enjoy mint debian but always changing it up. That's one of the beauties I see with linux is that there are so many distros to choose from. Its kinda like all theses roms that we get to choose from.
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what does this have to do with the phone?

someguyatx said:
I tried multiple distros in the past year and ran fedora for a bit along with ubuntu and mandriva. Had issues with suse and several others that i didnt bother to troubleshoot. I have deployed several slax machines for public access for work booting from hard drive then running in ram. Old boxes but they run quick. Slax is cool because you can build your own live cd on their site.
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I haven't heard of slax until now! Awesome concept I'm going to try it out.

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what does this have to do with the phone?
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This is the general section. This has to do with the linux distro you use for compiling android or for generally your favorite distro. I use ubuntu because, its easiest for android compilation. I have seen a lot more off topic posts in the general section then this post.

I've used CentOS, Ubuntu, Debian, Mandriva, Fedora... I've tried pretty much every major distribution of Linux. Ubuntu is the most user friendly for those who are new to the OS.
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shanenielsen1234 said:
I haven't heard of slax until now! Awesome concept I'm going to try it out.
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Yeah its a really cool concept. If you find a build you want to run from hard drive shoot me a pm and i will send you the directions i put together.
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You should give slackware or gentoo a try!!!
If you are an ubuntu lover and havent been using linux for long, chances are you might have a hard time compiling/using slackware. You have to build all your own software from source. You also need to be real familiar with the command line before you give slackware a try. But it lets you get real familiar with the OS and is a ton of fun! Sometkmes it can get frustrating though! But they say if you wanna learn Ubuntu, use Ubuntu. If you wanna learn debian, use debian. If you wanna learn Linux, use Slackware!
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Gentoo. I hear it's the fastest. I'll let you know when I'm done compiling the OS and every application.

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I run opensuse x64 and Ubuntu x64 on small partitions with a larger data partition for them to share since about 99% of the apps run on both distros it saves me alot of duped apps and install space
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I like Kubuntu, just because I can't stand the Unity GUI. I haven't tried it in a while, but I liked Knoppix too. I used it as a live CD for a while, but liked it enough to install it.

Arch /w xfce...after using arch for 2 years I cant understand how ppl can tolerate the bloat and lack of x-environment choice with a pre-built distro.
Plus...over 2 years and still totally stable, rolling release = awesome

Fedora. Always ran RedHat until it was discontinued, then moved to Fedora.
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starnostar said:
Arch /w xfce...after using arch for 2 years I cant understand how ppl can tolerate the bloat and lack of x-environment choice with a pre-built distro.
Plus...over 2 years and still totally stable, rolling release = awesome
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Amen to that my brotha. If you pick the right hardware Arch is the bomb.

Debian is the best all around IMO. Everything works out if the box and its fast. You can install the bare minimum too.
I used to be a gentoo user rep. I always tell people who are interested in learning the Linux platform to do a stage1 install of gentoo first. I think after you complete it, you end up with a good amount of knowledge of how a Linux system works. (Unlike Ubuntu where you learn nothing about the platform)
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I have to go with Arch. Single best distro out there imo. If you are new to linux it can take a little setting up but you can set it up the exact way you want it. My archlinux install looks and feels completely different than my neighbors but they are the same at heart.

Linux?.?.

Do any of you e4gt owners use ubuntu strictly as your OS?
I want to install this instead of windows (no point in paying for problems)
I understand there is heimsdale (spelling?) in place of Odin.
But what I'm wondering is how much more difficult is it to flash things and such to or phones?
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Use Linux Mint. It's based on ubuntu so you get all the same stuff plus a better interface and a better appearance. The cinnamon build is the better one atm imo...
Also, odin/heimdill(sp?) are not necessary. I have run Linux as my os for years and haven't had any problems trying any roms... Where there's a will, there's a way.
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I use Linux Mint which is a different distro than Ubuntu but built off of it. I use it as my daily OS on my laptop and love it. As far as Heimdel it's just as easy if not easier than Odin once you know how to use it.
I would suggest a dual boot system as sometimes you just need windows or in case you don't like Linux. Both distros make dual booting fairly easy. Hope this helped some. Good luck!
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I use linux on 3 of my laptops.. Kubuntu us nice.. but i prefer PinguyOS.. its a modified ubuntu that i like alot more than mint. just my input
And yeah.. dual boot is the only way to go.. just somethings end up having to be done in windows...
http://pinguyos.com/

Thanks fellas. I'll definitely be dual booting, i plan on buying another internal hd and running windows off of that.
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Heimdall isn't that hard to work. And my spelling is correct
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heimdall is astounding. Better than Odin. Odin is literally a piece of crap, I'm amazed that people still use it, even on Windows.
I've ran Linux/Android as my main OS for more years than I can remember. These days I use Arch Linux almost exclusively.
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i dont see how odin is crap when it's done it's job correctly every time for me and a lot of other people.

I really tried to like Linux, even with the slick Mint interface, but man, all those archives and issues. Then there's wine and the programs just don't run the same as they do in Windows, just my 2 pennies....

Unbuntu 11 side-loads on our phone nicely..
Don't expect to watch any video or compress large files,
But there is some interesting software that having full Linux can bring to our phone..
It's super slow, but everything works software center and all!

gilbydakid said:
Do any of you e4gt owners use ubuntu strictly as your OS?
I want to install this instead of windows (no point in paying for problems)
I understand there is heimsdale (spelling?) in place of Odin.
But what I'm wondering is how much more difficult is it to flash things and such to or phones?
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Id avoid Ubuntu. After 11.04 they took alot away and force you to use Unity, that thing is horrid. Stick with Mint.
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stargaterules said:
I really tried to like Linux, even with the slick Mint interface, but man, all those archives and issues. Then there's wine and the programs just don't run the same as they do in Windows, just my 2 pennies....
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Not sure what you mean by " all those archives and issues" the learning curve can be a little steep if you've only ever used windows, but if you put the effort to learn basic Linux tasks and terminal commands Linux can be a hell of a lot easier and more useful than windows on a daily basis, additionally IMHO wine is an unnecessary crutch, there is a native linux program for most everything outside of windows based games that is 9 times out of 10 more functional and useful than the windows program you're trying to use. I guess you could say there is no iTunes, but really if you use XDA I would assume you'd be capable of flashing your I pods firmware over to the far superiour rockbox.... so to answer the op's question yes I use Linux, usually ubuntu, as my primary os, heimdall works great but I mostly use mobile Odin... I have a windows 8 and an osx partition as well, neither get much use and windows 8 does not very much impress me...
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I suggest dual boot also. If you have the hardware for it, vm is more convenient. Virtualbox suits my needs a large percentage of the time.
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linuxtad said:
I suggest dual boot also. If you have the hardware for it, vm is more convenient. Virtualbox suits my needs a large percentage of the time.
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Id do this to. I dual boot. Im not sure Linux Mint has a easy installer like Ubuntu does. But making a partition is quite easy. But virtualbox is much easier. Its just whatever suits you.
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Unbuntu 11 side-loads on our phone nicely..
Don't expect to watch any video or compress large files,
But there is some interesting software that having full Linux can bring to our phone..
It's super slow, but everything works software center and all!
What do you mean it side loads nicely?
I was thinking about doing a Linux install on my phone, opinion?
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Dual boot!! I use Linux mint. Cinnamon is the best. But I've never had to use anything but cwm and mobile Odin.
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hit the thanks it doesn't hurt.

I have an idea for future android dev

why couldn't we just develop an android base rom and then add the files for each type of phone/device separately. kinda like having a flavor of linux and just adding the drivers for your machine to the one you like ...I don't know if its possible ...but it really would make things a lot easier IMO
cm10.zip+SGS3.zip(drivers+kernel)=sgs3Rom
cm10.zip+SGS2.zip(drivers+kernel)=sgs2Rom
AOKP.zip+SGS3.zip(drivers+kernel)=sgs3Rom
and so on......

Probably bc not every manufacturer is so generous with hard ware and kernel source it'd be difficult to have universal like Roms it was tried I believe I forget which device possibly the us s3 or I'm just flat out wrong still a great idea though
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ks2332 said:
Probably bc not every manufacturer is so generous with hard ware and kernel source it'd be difficult to have universal like Roms it was tried I believe I forget which device possibly the us s3 or I'm just flat out wrong still a great idea though
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I got the idea today as i was trying out windows 8 (lasted about an hour btw) ....if we can put windows/linux/android/chromeos/osx86 on just about anything ....this really shouldn't be that hard ....at least with the devices that we already have all this for ...

If that was possible what's stopping people from building a custom phone like they do for computers
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The problem is that with all the different manufacturers and different versions of Android. They also use different file systems and file paths. Also the addition of the different system partitions doesn't help this issue at all. As was said earlier, if windows 8 was ported, it may be possible.
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RedXXII said:
The problem is that with all the different manufacturers and different versions of Android. They also use different file systems and file paths. Also the addition of the different system partitions doesn't help this issue at all. As was said earlier, if windows 8 was ported, it may be possible.
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Its very sad then....I guess this is one of the reasons android is so fragmented..

xlinth said:
Its very sad then....I guess this is one of the reasons android is so fragmented..
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Yeah google only lays the framework but doesn't seek to enforce a standard of implementation. Curiously allot of PC Linux strongly adheres to the industry and often source standards..... example x11
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[R&D] UbnHD2 Pentesting distro for mobiles...

http://thehackernews.com/2012/12/ubnhd2-ubuntu-based-pentesting-os-for.html
Does anyone want to start the port for this? It is a security distro of ubuntu natively running on the HD2. I just happen to come across this and thought it would be a great project for our device, and possible a dual-boot option for android/ubuntu. Just an idea. What do you guys think?
Here is the link to the xda project
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975081
and from the looks of it, it seems as if it is running on an iphone as well.......

This sounds pretty cool, but shouldn't this thread be in general?

LoopDoGG79 said:
This sounds pretty cool, but shouldn't this thread be in general?
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depends on how you look at it...where as it is not a kernel or a rom, it is a discussion initiated in order to develop the above mentioned project for our phone, more of a precursor to what is to come. In that sense, it should be posted in the T989 development section.
ADD - it also qualifies for a [R&D] thread according to the forum section rules....just sayin'

Is no one willing to take a stab at this? I will if there are people interested? Keep in mind from what I read, this will eventually allow you to use your phone as it was intended (ie. phone calls, ims, sms, mms, gps, etc), its not just linux.
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binarybishop said:
I will if there are people interested?
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Dude i dont want to disappoint you but without recompiling the android kernel of the S2 with gcc it won't boot natively.
If the kernel is recompiled it will be not easy to manage the kernel objects & firmware with the the ubuntu system. Its only
working on the HTC HD2 because HTC had a different policy and many people from all over the world worked or are still
working on it
The easiest way to get it running on your samsungs is the chkroot method but you will need to modify some files..
binarybishop said:
its not just linux.
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It is, with modified kernel & drivers
The next Device ubnhd2 will run natively on is the HTC Desire HD...

I ran Ubuntu for a while on my S2.. and it was neet... but it's not better than just running android. plus those Desk top os are not touch friendly. .
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PJcastaldo said:
I ran Ubuntu for a while on my S2.. and it was neet... but it's not better than just running android. plus those Desk top os are not touch friendly. .
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but chroot method and not native or ?

binarybishop said:
Is no one willing to take a stab at this? I will if there are people interested? Keep in mind from what I read, this will eventually allow you to use your phone as it was intended (ie. phone calls, ims, sms, mms, gps, etc), its not just linux.
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That would be awesome if you could make it happen! Gnome 3 would probably work much better for a smartphone but that's a long shot I'm sure. Thanks again! :good:

Using a full Linux system on mobile phone is a good idea. But what is the point when android system is so good and mainly developed for phones. I don't discourage but these idea are not very useful for common uses. Unless Ubuntu Linux would give better UI and usability.
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bankanidhi said:
Using a full Linux system on mobile phone is a good idea. But what is the point when android system is so good and mainly developed for phones. I don't discourage but these idea are not very useful for common uses. Unless Ubuntu Linux would give better UI and usability.
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Dude you are right but with the dual boot option (existing on HTC HD2 & DHD) you can everytime switch when you u need the linux os (for example on work university or school) and the most nifty (in my eyes) option is that the Magldr can be configured to only boot up ubuntu when you press a key on the beginning of the boot process so something like a hidden OS on your phone You just start it out when you need it ^^And if ever a law enforcement guy gets it in his hand he wouldnt even know how to come in this os he would just simply see a android booting up

zo1d said:
Magldr can be configured to only boot up ubuntu when you press a key on the beginning of the boot process so something like a hidden OS on your phone You just start it out when you need it
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EPIC.
bankanidhi said:
Using a full Linux system on mobile phone is a good idea. But what is the point when android system is so good and mainly developed for phones. I don't discourage but these idea are not very useful for common uses. Unless Ubuntu Linux would give better UI and usability.
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It's for mobile pentesting. Not meant to replace your linux desktop/laptop or your phone.

It would be cool to multiboot roms/Linux
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Now THIS looks promising! http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
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binarybishop said:
depends on how you look at it...where as it is not a kernel or a rom, it is a discussion initiated in order to develop the above mentioned project for our phone, more of a precursor to what is to come. In that sense, it should be posted in the T989 development section.
ADD - it also qualifies for a [R&D] thread according to the forum section rules....just sayin'
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Its a general discussion about developing! Lol

Here's another you tube video of Linux running on smart phone. Can't wait to see it on the sg2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLtcj7FdIYA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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[Q] Is there any Linux distro working?

I saw that the 2012 N7 has a lot of distros working well and i tought if we could use our device as a mini-computer as well, so i would like to know if there is a distro working at the date, also i read a lot of threads but none had a clear answer, thanks in advance.

You can use linux deploy, you can install many linux distros like ubuntu, debain, etc...
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la2o said:
You can use linux deploy, you can install many linux distros like ubuntu, debain, etc...
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Have you tried it already? Did it work well? Thanks for the answer.

Yes it does.
Here's the proof it also has gui! I am using shell because it's quicker
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Ubuntu can be flashed as well:
developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/
Gave it a spin a couple weeks ago but I did not particularly like it - it's still very laggy and has some quirks, but it's a start. (<insert it's something meme here/>)

dTatham said:
Ubuntu can be flashed as well:
developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/
Gave it a spin a couple weeks ago but I did not particularly like it - it's still very laggy and has some quirks, but it's a start. (<insert it's something meme here/>)
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Is it possible to run wine to run some light windows programs? Flashing Ubuntu will wipe all partitions? Thanks for the answer :good:

Not sure if it wipes everything - have a look at the link above.
The obvious question (why on earth would you want to run wine?!) aside, ubuntu itself was very sluggish so I guess even if wine was available, it wouldn't be much fun.

dTatham said:
Not sure if it wipes everything - have a look at the link above.
The obvious question (why on earth would you want to run wine?!) aside, ubuntu itself was very sluggish so I guess even if wine was available, it wouldn't be much fun.
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Well, reconsidering The question, indeed is dumb to want wine, btw, is this ubuntu toucj or ubuntu desktop? I looking for ubuntu desktop.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid
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