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EVO Can Help You Get Out of Tickets...?

Hey guys I was watching the news today and saw this story, and actually thought it was pretty interesting. This college kid in California was using the My Tracks app on a dash mount in his car and it helped him get out a ticket that was pretty much a bogus one that a cop lied about. Check out the video in the link below!
http://www.news10.net/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=125416&provider=top
Another reason Android > IPhone.

that only works if you weren't speeding to begin with

NewZJ said:
that only works if you weren't speeding to begin with
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Oh I know, I realize that it really only records an average or the maximum speed that you reached. In this instance the cop pulled the guy over and said he was going 40 in a 25 zone, on My Tracks the max speed he reached was only 26. Just helps prevent false tickets, and you do have a good point because these days rarely anyone does the speed limit all the time.

He didn't win bc of the phone app, he won bc the cop did not remember when be last got the gun calibrated nor was trained, so sort of misleading...
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iitreatedii said:
He didn't win bc of the phone app, he won bc the cop did not remember when be last got the gun calibrated nor was trained, so sort of misleading...
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I didnt see that in the story, I guess I missed it. But still he used the app and presented the stuff in court it sounds like, so to an extent it helped him.

Yellowcard8992 said:
I didnt see that in the story, I guess I missed it. But still he used the app and presented the stuff in court it sounds like, so to an extent it helped him.
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No, it didn't. I'm getting tired of this non-story spreading around the internet because people can't bother to read and apply some critical thinking. The judge said in the source article and any article with journalistic integrity that his ruling had nothing to do with the GPS.

He posted his story here on xda last week.

NewZJ said:
that only works if you weren't speeding to begin with
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Well, this story's useless haha

The reporter must be a evo fanboy himself

Seeing as I always speed this will be useless for me lol.
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Yellowcard8992 said:
Another reason Android > IPhone.
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I'm sure there is a similar if not the same app available for iPhone....

a better app is the one that shows you where the cops normally sit.

I was just wondering how many people have left their house in a car for any reason and not gone faster than 26 MPH!!

Article is probably falsified, also that comment probably wasn't actually from a police. GPS apps are in my experience super accurate for speeds, while police have a massive incentive to lie and screw people over.

Wifi problem SOLVED (acc'd to sprint rep)

I just had the best conversation ever with a sprint rep. This was an in-store tech person, mind you, so all of my facial expressions were more than obvious.
The conversation went like this:
Hi, my E4GT is having some wifi connectivity issues. When I try to connect, it says connected but then keeps scanning, and in fact, it's not connected at all because I can't get a webpage to...
(Interrupting me) WAIT RIGHT THERE...let me see the front of your phone, turn it around! (I do so.) Yup, that's the problem...you downloaded something to make your ANDROID phone look like a WINDOWS phone.
You mean a launcher?
Yes, it's an unapproved app, and you corrupted your whole system. You need to delete that and hard reset. Don't make it look like it's not an Android phone...otherwise you corrupt the system.
(My face has a wtf are you serious look on it at this point.) Oooooh-kay. Um, are you sure?
YES! ABSOLUTELY! Also, I bet you have checked off install apps from unknown sources, don't you?
Yes...so?
THERE YOU GO AGAIN --- COMPLETELY CORRUPTED YOUR ENTIRE SYSTEM. Now, anyone anywhere can just go into your phone and access everything. That's why you can't get online.
(Now my face has the wtf look on it as well as a little bit of anger from this rep having somehow survived this long in her life, and in doing so, disproved darwinism.) So, you're telling me installing the amazon appstore breaks our phones?
YES, it's an unapproved app, just like that one that made your phone look like a windows phone!
But, that app's from the google market...??
I BET YOU'RE TETHERING TOO, AREN'T YOU?
(Damn, she got me there.) No! What is tethering?
Someone will come up and tell you to tether...go right ahead and do it if you want, but you'll be corrupting your entire phone again and it won't work.
Ok, thanks, this has been a big help.
You bet! Thanks for coming in!

Erislover said:
I just had the best conversation ever with a sprint rep. This was an in-store tech person, mind you, so all of my facial expressions were more than obvious.
The conversation went like this:
Hi, my E4GT is having some wifi connectivity issues. When I try to connect, it says connected but then keeps scanning, and in fact, it's not connected at all because I can't get a webpage to...
(Interrupting me) WAIT RIGHT THERE...let me see the front of your phone, turn it around! (I do so.) Yup, that's the problem...you downloaded something to make your ANDROID phone look like a WINDOWS phone.
You mean a launcher?
Yes, it's an unapproved app, and you corrupted your whole system. You need to delete that and hard reset. Don't make it look like it's not an Android phone...otherwise you corrupt the system.
(My face has a wtf are you serious look on it at this point.) Oooooh-kay. Um, are you sure?
YES! ABSOLUTELY! Also, I bet you have checked off install apps from unknown sources, don't you?
Yes...so?
THERE YOU GO AGAIN --- COMPLETELY CORRUPTED YOUR ENTIRE SYSTEM. Now, anyone anywhere can just go into your phone and access everything. That's why you can't get online.
(Now my face has the wtf look on it as well as a little bit of anger from this rep having somehow survived this long in her life, and in doing so, disproved darwinism.) So, you're telling me installing the amazon appstore breaks our phones?
YES, it's an unapproved app, just like that one that made your phone look like a windows phone!
But, that app's from the google market...??
I BET YOU'RE TETHERING TOO, AREN'T YOU?
(Damn, she got me there.) No! What is tethering?
Someone will come up and tell you to tether...go right ahead and do it if you want, but you'll be corrupting your entire phone again and it won't work.
Ok, thanks, this has been a big help.
You bet! Thanks for coming in!
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Lol, now that's funny
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Damn that guy is hilarius
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Ha ha ha, it's to funny! How incompetent.
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so...did it work?

Lol... I thought she was joking but shes serious... It anoys me that i know more about my phone and other phones then a sales rep(no offense to the sales reps that know what there talking about ).
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I once had a verizon droid incredible with a screen that literally moved when you touched it (this screen hardware itself physically moved, not anything on the screen). Took it into a Verizon store and the rep seriously asked me "did you try doing a battery pull?" I was just like wtf does a loose screen have to do with a battery pull.
I don't know where they find these people. When I apply for jobs there I never even get an interview, I think I fail their personality testing during the application.

I don't even understand how people like that can get hired. You would think they would require at least some basic knowledge of the industry and products. I am actually looking to change careers and would like to get a position managing a sprint store but I can't seem to find an opening in my area because they keep hiring people like this. I have been to four stores in my area and every single one has not one person who seems to know much of anything. Maybe its just the central florida area.
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Normally, I would say this story seems too far out there, and that there is no way someone is that clueless as an employee at the Sprint store.
However, I have dealt with some of the Sprint store employees and I guess it is feasible.
Either way, thanks for posting as it was an entertaining post.

Thanks op that was classic, I seem to run into these people all the time. Awesome

I had a similar thing happen at Radio Shack. I had bought the Photon there and before my 30 days were up I wanted to trade it for our SII...on launch day they didn't have any so I told them I wanted to return it and go to Sprint to get the phone. The salesman said why...the Photon is dual core and a much better phone...I immediately told him it was none of his business and then proceeded to rattle off the specs of the SII..he went into the back room. These people are clueless!

Haha I purchased an app called HVAC Buddy for work and a sprint tech told me it broke the gps in my Moment. Wtf
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smark72 said:
I don't even understand how people like that can get hired. You would think they would require at least some basic knowledge of the industry and products. I am actually looking to change careers and would like to get a position managing a sprint store but I can't seem to find an opening in my area because they keep hiring people like this. I have been to four stores in my area and every single one has not one person who seems to know much of anything. Maybe its just the central florida area.
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All of FL, bro...I'm in the ft laud area myself, and it's harder to find a glimmer of intelligence in the general population than it is to find a guy who doesn't shave his chest here.
anyway, just fyi, it's an absolutely true story. the worst part, which I forgot to mention in the OP, is that a couple minutes before this dolt began "helping" me, I was talking with another customer who had an E4GT with some crazy problems (phone with a mind of it's own...would just randomly open up apps and close them and restart...) and I was telling her about this forum and how her problems were atypical and how she should just get a new E4GT...and then every time this stupid, stupid customer service rep talked, I had to just look over at this lady and hope she knew how completely retarded the rep was.

I hate that I am associated with these types of employees ...
-J
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zonacats23 said:
I hate that I am associated with these types of employees ...
-J
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I know there has to be some knowledgeable reps, I just haven't encountered any myself.
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In my defense, not all of us are idiots.
And a 2nd thought, ive met such people. I sometimes feel ashamed that theyre one of my own.
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zonacats23 said:
I hate that I am associated with these types of employees ...
-J
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Yeah, this. I'm sorry guys.
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squshy 7 said:
Yeah, this. I'm sorry guys.
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No need to apologize on their behalf...it's the same at every job and every profession. It's just a shame that people don't say, "sorry, I don't know," when they don't know. But, on the bright side, it does sometimes make for some funny ish when they talk out their ass

Walked into my local repair center and showed the Guy my OG Evo, told him that I was having some issues with the fact that my $400+ phone had a crack in the casing near the volume and power buttons. He immediately told me "you dropped your phone and it cracked. that's not covered sorry." and proceeded to the next customer. I walked up, showed him again my phone was in an otterbox defender case, had NO signs of damage... mind you I kept the case on since day 1 and I had never dropped the phone....
He looks at me with the straightest face and says "it is because you are using a Facebook IM application which causes the problem." at this point I laughed in his face, left the store and proceeded down the block to the next repair center.
This Guy still works there....
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Oh and here's another one.
Took another OG Evo 4G to another local repair center to have the dust cleaned out from behind the screen (there was a **** ton) and the service tech puts my phone back together and broke the power button, camera, and screen and then tells me "Uhhhh it came like that sorry"
.... fail of sprint repair centers. I'm better off fixing the phones myseld
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SiriusXM App

Is really cool.
Thought I would post this here since the inc2 is my current phone. Not sure if it has been discussed yet.
I downloaded the siriusxm app about a month and a half ago. I sign up for the one week free trials alot whenever there is a special broadcast that I want to hear using my emails or a disposable email through 10 minute mail. I have mainly used it on my pc where the trial expires after a week.
Well last time I signed up I did it through the free trial button on the app itself. After 1 week I got a popup that said your trial has expired click here to subscribe. So instead of hitting ok I hit the back arrow to exit the app. I opened the app again and it has been working for almost 2 months now nonstop. I play it all day at work for 8+ hours and I use the same login on multiple devices (droid inc1 and 2, 2 droid eris and an acer iconia a500 tablet) No popups or problems at all.
Just thought Id share.
It not a hack or a mod really just a glitch in the app so I figured it would be cool to share my experience. i have told about 10 people so far who are all really thankful and enjoying it while they can.

Awesome. I love it in my car but didn't want to pay thw extra for the phone. I will have to try.
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ryryrocco said:
Is really cool.
Thought I would post this here since the inc2 is my current phone. Not sure if it has been discussed yet.
I downloaded the siriusxm app about a month and a half ago. I sign up for the one week free trials alot whenever there is a special broadcast that I want to hear using my emails or a disposable email through 10 minute mail. I have mainly used it on my pc where the trial expires after a week.
Well last time I signed up I did it through the free trial button on the app itself. After 1 week I got a popup that said your trial has expired click here to subscribe. So instead of hitting ok I hit the back arrow to exit the app. I opened the app again and it has been working for almost 2 months now nonstop. I play it all day at work for 8+ hours and I use the same login on multiple devices (droid inc1 and 2, 2 droid eris and an acer iconia a500 tablet) No popups or problems at all.
Just thought Id share.
It not a hack or a mod really just a glitch in the app so I figured it would be cool to share my experience. i have told about 10 people so far who are all really thankful and enjoying it while they can.
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what version of the app are you using? you mind uploading and sharing the .apk with us?

ddarvish said:
what version of the app are you using? you mind uploading and sharing the .apk with us?
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also does anyone know how the app identifies a user as having used the trial or not? is it by email address, rom, android phone id, phone number, meid? it would be nice to know so that it can easily be modified or spoofed. i already pay for this **** in my car. i dont get why i gotta pay for it again to hear it at home..

I just downloaded the app from the play store
as stated above I use it on multiple devices
2 droid eris phones
1 droid inc
1 droid inc2 and
my acer a500 iconia tab
as well as my netbook and pc
all on the same free trial that I used 10 minute mail for a disposable email address
singed up using my first name and only last initial
it has now been working for over a month and a half after my free trial was suppossed to end on all my devices
I have told lots of people about it and it is the same outcome for them as well.
Just thought I'd share my story.
Although 1 coworker said it worked on her computer and android phone but not on her ipod. HA!!!

Don't mind you discussing the App guys, but please keep any posts detailing the bypass method out of the thread
Cheers.

Sorry man my bad.
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ryryrocco said:
Sorry man my bad.
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All good mate

juzz86 said:
Don't mind you discussing the App guys, but please keep any posts detailing the bypass method out of the thread
Cheers.
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I was going to post that, an again you beat me to it.
I'm watching you :sly::sly:

Mr.Highway said:
I was going to post that, an again you beat me to it.
I'm watching you :sly::sly:
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Got you covered like waffle-house hash browns old mate

well how about this i just downloaded the app and applied for the free trial but it says it already expired and thing is i have never downloaded or used the app till today... so something is being identified incorrectly... is it my email address? imei? phone number?

K. I just downloaded this.I have been wanting to use it on my phone instead of moving my xm radio from my work van to my personal truck.So hopefully this will work out.

[Q] Trouble Receiving Text Messages From Friends W/ iPhones

Hello,
My wife has an iPhone 4 on AT&T and I of course have an S3 on T-Mo. I also have another friend with an iPhone 4 on Verizon and I cannot for the life of me figure out why I cannot get texts from them. I can easily get texts from everyone else BUT them iPhone. Is there an issue with my phone? I've tried Googling the answer, and I'll I'm reading is responses like "That is Apple for you." but can I get a technical response or an idea of what I can do to remedy the situation?
Thanks all! :good:

GS3 dont play well with iphones. Everytime an iphone user sends me a MMS all i get is tiny thumbnail. seems the sms/mms issue has been discussed here but i havent had a real answer yet :/

I get pix from iPhone users daily with no problem.... I've gotten over a hundred MMS and over 6000 texts from people with iPhones over the last month or so... not sure what to tell you.

Tell them to get an android.. duh
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First off, that's gonna be hard to pinpoint. Why? Because a text is a text unless the iPhone is doing some sort of encoding magic that the Galaxy S3 somehow rejects but that shouldn't be the case because if it was, it would be an android issue. And at the end of the day, texting between the Galaxy S3 and iPhone work just fine because I have friends with iPhones and I received their texts without any issues. So it has to be something to do with your specific phone.
Have you tried putting your SIM card to different phone and seeing if you get the texts then? And also have you tried someone else's SIM card in your phone/just going and getting a new SIM from T-Mobile?
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Never heard of that op. My brother and sister both have iPhones and I get MMS/SMS from both.
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Might be your phone op. My Co worker has an iphone and we send MMS and links and txts all the time with no problems.
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I have no problems getting texts but picture messages take hours sometimes to come through very strange
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Hey all, thanks for the pointers. I'll check my SIM today. I do have a backup micro SIM actually!

If you had an IPhone as well before you could be linked to Apple ID. If that's the case when iPhone sends you message it detects its linked to ID and your Galaxy will never get it. Hope that sends you in right direction to solve it.
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johnowa636 said:
If you had an IPhone as well before you could be linked to Apple ID. If that's the case when iPhone sends you message it detects its linked to ID and your Galaxy will never get it. Hope that sends you in right direction to solve it.
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This is a good point. I had my email linked to iMessage and someone with an iPhone texted my email address and instead of going to my email inbox it showed up on my iPad. Not sure how it works with your phone number though.

johnowa636 said:
If you had an IPhone as well before you could be linked to Apple ID. If that's the case when iPhone sends you message it detects its linked to ID and your Galaxy will never get it. Hope that sends you in right direction to solve it.
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psykhotic said:
This is a good point. I had my email linked to iMessage and someone with an iPhone texted my email address and instead of going to my email inbox it showed up on my iPad. Not sure how it works with your phone number though.
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I actually DID have an iPhone 4 before switching back to the Android platform. Let me look into the Apple ID situation and I'll report back! Thanks! :good:

Well I fixed my phone. It WAS related to the Apple ID. Like I said, I had an iPhone before the S3 and when I had the iPhone on and left on Wi-Fi people's iMessage was pointing their texts to that phone. I wiped the phone (as I'm about to sell it) and that fixed the problem.
Thanks again for the insight people.

BimmerFerret said:
Well I fixed my phone. It WAS related to the Apple ID. Like I said, I had an iPhone before the S3 and when I had the iPhone on and left on Wi-Fi people's iMessage was pointing their texts to that phone. I wiped the phone (as I'm about to sell it) and that fixed the problem.
Thanks again for the insight people.
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Glad you got it fixed! I know a lot of phones have issues with the stupid iPhone. Even Kylee old touch pro 2 had issues. I just think the iPhone is horrible.
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Sprint routes you through a DoD Data Center

while on 3g/4g
Code:
netstat -r
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busybox netstat -pt
look up those ip addresses

That sucks if it's true :/
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Sounds like a great reason to head on over to T-Mobile
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I'm not seeing any ip addresses. All I see are netstat and Busybox netstat. I Googled those and came up with nothing.

metalfan78 said:
I'm not seeing any ip addresses. All I see are netstat and Busybox netstat. I Googled those and came up with nothing.
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netstat and busybox netstat are commands you would issue in your console to see the IP addresses. OP didn't post any IP's, this is an exercise for the reader.

Gotcha, learn something new everyday

I see nothing except the DNS addresses for the websites that I have visited/am visiting.
For example
In the screenshot you see " 74.125.193.95" . That corresponds to one of Google's ip addresses.
http://www.findip-address.com/74.125.193.95/whois

CNexus said:
I see nothing except the DNS addresses for the websites that I have visited/am visiting.
For example
In the screenshot you see " 74.125.193.95" . That corresponds to one of Google's ip addresses.
http://www.findip-address.com/74.125.193.95/whois
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Look up the 29.xxx.xx.xxx one(s)
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paychex said:
while on 3g/4g
Code:
netstat -r
Code:
busybox netstat -pt
look up those ip addresses
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In all fairness, please reference the original XDA thread that stumbled onto this almost two years ago.

What am I looking for? If this is real time to leave.
Just because one is anonymous doesn't mean that one has privacy.

No need for tin foil hats (well, for some of us anyway)
http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-internet-dept-defense-and-you

jamcar said:
What am I looking for? If this is real time to leave.
Just because one is anonymous doesn't mean that one has privacy.
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Yeah, I found it. NOT OKAY!!! No matter the reason, it's still not okay!
T-Mobile does it too, my friend just checked.
VZW & AT&T probably do it too, can't confirm though.
Since T-Mobile is also connecting to the DoD using the 21.x.x.x IP address, can we say this isn't just Sprint supplying the DoD's with information? Why does T-Mobile need to go through them too? How much goes through them and why? Other then just to watch citizens. Sprint says that they are just the U.S. Government's phone company and that's why they go through the DoD, but T-Mobile does too.

sydlexius said:
In all fairness, please reference the original XDA thread that stumbled onto this almost two years ago.
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jamcar said:
What am I looking for? If this is real time to leave.
Just because one is anonymous doesn't mean that one has privacy.
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Look up the ip addresses that are reported back
noother84 said:
No need for tin foil hats (well, for some of us anyway)
http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-internet-dept-defense-and-you
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If that is actually the case and they are NAT'ing the addresses to their own; why doesn't a single Sprint IP show up in the table?

paychex said:
If that is actually the case and they are NAT'ing the addresses to their own; why doesn't a single Sprint IP show up in the table?
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And, why does T-Mobile also go through the 21.x.x.x IP address? All of the companies can't NAT the address through 21.x.x.x, something else is going on.

Listen, all of you guys don't get it. If the government wants your information, they are gonna get it. No matter what the companies do, they will get your information if they want it. Please stop freaking out like a bunch of 4 year olds. I hear so many people flipping out about certain technologies because of their possible connections to the government. Who the flip cares? If I buy an Xbox one and play with the kinect, and the government wants to watch me do that, be my guest. Because I know that I can't stop them from watching me anyway or getting information about me. Even if this was the 1950s, if the government wants to watch you or get information, they will. Good day.
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Sprint used to supply data to the department of defence. Either they own the IP addresses that were registered to DoD or they are borrowing some dod addresses for internal routing.
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lilman355 said:
Listen, all of you guys don't get it. If the government wants your information, they are gonna get it. No matter what the companies do, they will get your information if they want it. Please stop freaking out like a bunch of 4 year olds. I hear so many people flipping out about certain technologies because of their possible connections to the government. Who the flip cares? If I buy an Xbox one and play with the kinect, and the government wants to watch me do that, be my guest. Because I know that I can't stop them from watching me anyway or getting information about me. Even if this was the 1950s, if the government wants to watch you or get information, they will. Good day.
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+1
Besides, at most they might see that I look at a lot of porn, but anybody that knows me, knows that...
If I had a dollar for every time I said that, I'd be making money in a very weird way.

lilman355 said:
Listen, all of you guys don't get it. If the government wants your information, they are gonna get it. No matter what the companies do, they will get your information if they want it. Please stop freaking out like a bunch of 4 year olds. I hear so many people flipping out about certain technologies because of their possible connections to the government. Who the flip cares? If I buy an Xbox one and play with the kinect, and the government wants to watch me do that, be my guest. Because I know that I can't stop them from watching me anyway or getting information about me. Even if this was the 1950s, if the government wants to watch you or get information, they will. Good day.
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Obviously I do. You got a sister? Is it ok if someone stalks her? Who cares right?

paychex said:
Obviously I do. You got a sister? Is it ok if someone stalks her? Who cares right?
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Stop connecting to the internet
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I'd say if more than one person cares, as we can already see that at least a few do, then this is a legitimate thread.
I'd also advise the threadcrappers to buzz off, and resume giving little kids swirlies and stealing lunch money.