I just got a new Gnx, and I find it to be really slow, when browsing the touch screen stutters. Just about all live wallpapers cause lag, when I use the same LWP on my droid 2 global they run fine. I ran a the Antutu benchmark my score was 4374 which seems really low for this device. I've done two factory resets. Is this normal?
Running stock 4.02
Also the game Temple run has really bad response time because of lag.
I just relized I should have posted this in the QnA section sorry.
Root it and throw a custom kernel on there and you'll be all set.
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I haven't been able to get most live wallpapers to work smoothly. About the only one that works well is Phase Beam. Something about poor Ice Cream Sandwich optimization. So that's normal.
Temple Run, on the other hand shouldn't have that problem. Maybe a bad unit? Root might make it better, but as far as I know it shouldn't be that bad out of the box.
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live wallpapers arent optimized for ics. except phase beam
All live wallpapers lag on this phone, some kind of bug. Just use regular wallpaper.
The stock browser is super laggy with a large second or so delay between input and scrolling. Dolphin has the same problem, I think it just wraps the stock browser engine. Chrome is fast but does not reflow text on zoom.
Will probably root. I have Bluetooth issues too...
My sensation did not have these issues, alas it had a fatal gravity induced encounter with pavement.
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ianken said:
The stock browser is super laggy with a large second or so delay between input and scrolling. Dolphin has the same problem, I think it just wraps the stock browser engine. Chrome is fast but does not reflow text on zoom.
Will probably root. I have Bluetooth issues too...
My sensation did not have these issues, alas it had a fatal gravity induced encounter with pavement.
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stock browser and browsing in general has been amazing for me. best browsing experience, ive used.
miui + franco's kernel
mentalchaos03 said:
I just got a new Gnx, and I find it to be really slow, when browsing the touch screen stutters. Just about all live wallpapers cause lag, when I use the same LWP on my droid 2 global they run fine. I ran a the Antutu benchmark my score was 4374 which seems really low for this device. I've done two factory resets. Is this normal?
Running stock 4.02
Also the game Temple run has really bad response time because of lag.
I just relized I should have posted this in the QnA section sorry.
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Update ICS. You're about three releases behind. Lots of things have been fixed.
4.0.4 + a new kernel will help you quite a bit. So far I've used Franco and GLaDOS, love 'em both. Currently using GLaDOS because it has the touch-wake mod.
Lag on stock 4.0.2 (especially browser) seems odd...and yes many live wallpapers aren't optimized for ics, but how does the stock phase beam wallpaper do? If it lags then you might have a defective phone
Get 4.0.4 update and you will notice significant performance boost and battery life enhancement. If you are still not satisfied afterwards, a custom rom with OC enabled kernel definitely helps.
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how to upgrade ICS
hi there
im newbie...n my gnx is very slow..i heard that i must upgrade or change my kernel..
can someone help me and give me the tutorial how to do both upgrade ICS n change root and kernel?
thanks in advance ^_^
The people saying changing your kernel may help might be right, but out of the box shouldn't be bad at all. Even out of the box my Galaxy Nexus was still the fastest phone I've owned. Custom kernel made it even better, but completely stock those problems probably shouldn't exist.
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Well, I've had my phone for a little over a week and I'm realizing lag when scrolling in the app drawer. its not extremely laggy, but its just not super smooth. When I also text really fast it also lags which is really hard to type. I turned of auto correction I think it fixed the problem, but I'm not 100%. Anyone of you experiencing this?
Oh forgot to mention do you guys hear static when you have the volume really high?
I don't have this issue but I am also using the force gpu rendering option. Everything is smooth and fast.
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What lag? Haven't seen lag since day one of having the phone. Doesn't matter what ROM or on stock. Smoothest Android experience yet.
zephiK said:
What lag? Haven't seen lag since day one of having the phone. Doesn't matter what ROM or on stock. Smoothest Android experience yet.
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Ive had the completely opposite experience... I too experience "lag" when typing, choppy scrolling, slow opening / running apps, etc... OP, I have the same issues as you do. Please advise if you were able to fix them and if so, what steps did you use?
I dont have lag when typing in text. But many people have complained about stuttering in the app drawer.
But i use handcent since day 1 for texts...
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Ive had the completely opposite experience... I too experience "lag" when typing, choppy scrolling, slow opening / running apps, etc... OP, I have the same issues as you do. Please advise if you were able to fix them and if so, what steps did you use?
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Well, I was able to fix lag while texting by disabling auto correction in the settings. it seems many people are having that issue, but my phone is pretty fast opening and closing programs.
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I dont have lag when typing in text. But many people have complained about stuttering in the app drawer.
But i use handcent since day 1 for texts...
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Yeah, if i scroll really fast during the app drawer i notice lag, a little choppy lag, for most people many might not notice it. But I do, i think because i'm so used to my 120hz monitor when I used a 60hz monitor I notice just by moving around a window. I might be picky, but there is lag without a doubt in this phone or atleast my phone.
Read what the 2nd reply says dude.
Unless you just want to complain/troll and ignore possible solutions.
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Read what the 2nd reply says dude.
Unless you just want to complain/troll and ignore possible solutions.
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I have the Force 2D Rendering switched on and I STILL have these issues. Im not the OP but I thought Id mention it...
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Read what the 2nd reply says dude.
Unless you just want to complain/troll and ignore possible solutions.
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i already did it. i don't notice an improvement.
Different roms behave differently. Mine was pretty smooth but I've noticed lag on APW scrollable Widgets and flicking through the XDA on several roms. 4.0.3 helped but didn't fix.
Now I'm running Axi0m rom now which is 4.0.4 and there is no lag anymore. Much faster. I'm not over clocking or anything outside of the stock settings for that rom.
So I don't know if its 4.0.4 or the kernel/rom combination, but its a welcome addition. It uses Franco's kernel so maybe it was fixed there?
I DONT have Force 2D enabled either. FYI. Realistic answer.
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yiannisthegreek said:
Ive had the completely opposite experience... I too experience "lag" when typing, choppy scrolling, slow opening / running apps, etc... OP, I have the same issues as you do. Please advise if you were able to fix them and if so, what steps did you use?
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+1 I own LTE Nexus I have been suggested to flash stock then root again.. i'm backing up my data right now so thank god I am not the only one...
Don't listen to people telling to "Force GPU rendering", they don't know what they're talking about (Launcher2 already uses GPU rendering).
The slight stuttering when scrolling the app drawer is a known bug, reportedly fixed in firmware > 4.0.2 and it also didn't seem to happen in 4.0.1.
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Don't listen to people telling to "Force GPU rendering", they don't know what they're talking about (Launcher2 already uses GPU rendering).
The slight stuttering when scrolling the app drawer is a known bug, reportedly fixed in firmware > 4.0.2 and it also didn't seem to happen in 4.0.1.
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^^^^ This.
Wth is with ppl saying to force gpu rendering, it only works in apps that don't make use of gpu rendering.
The UI in ICS is rendered completely by the gpu so checking/unchecking that option does NOTHING to the UI.
That myth needed to be put to bed.
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^^^^ This.
Wth is with ppl saying to force gpu rendering, it only works in apps that don't make use of gpu rendering.
The UI in ICS is rendered completely by the gpu so checking/unchecking that option does NOTHING to the UI.
That myth needed to be put to bed.
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You guys seem to know your game so how come it still lags in 4.0.3?
for some weaird reason it seems to be stable for me right now... I did check force gpu and 4.0.4 since it's unoffical there isnt any real fast roms for 4.0.4 thanks guys!
The first thing I do after a fresh ROM flash is change the animation scales to 0 in Settings>Development>window+transition animations. I also disable app drawer in/out animations in my launcher settings. The stock ICS animations are fairly obnoxious and much more pronounced than the GB animations. I do the same on my I9100 on CM9. Look at it this way, animations are wasted time, if they're a little over the top then it's more wasted time + more work. My GN is as smooth as my I9100 throughout its life; stock, modded stock, CM7, and CM9.
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You guys seem to know your game so how come it still lags in 4.0.3?
for some weaird reason it seems to be stable for me right now... I did check force gpu and 4.0.4 since it's unoffical there isnt any real fast roms for 4.0.4 thanks guys!
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If you go to nexus s forums you will see that a guy did benchmarks on all the roms available andstock 4.0.4 was the fastest, in fact the top 5 has 4 4.0.4 based roms.
give it a try and see how it is.
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If you go to nexus s forums you will see that a guy did benchmarks on all the roms available andstock 4.0.4 was the fastest, in fact the top 5 has 4 4.0.4 based roms.
give it a try and see how it is.
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dont really want to give up all the AOKP options they are just amazing. I guess I will listen to the other guy and disable all animations and see if it looks better and wait for 4.0.4 rom
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dont really want to give up all the AOKP options they are just amazing. I guess I will listen to the other guy and disable all animations and see if it looks better and wait for 4.0.4 rom
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Well I agree completely with that course of action because that's what I do!
AOKP with Franco.kernel and animations off!
4.04 is just too stock for me right now.
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Well I agree completely with that course of action because that's what I do!
AOKP with Franco.kernel and animations off!
4.04 is just too stock for me right now.
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I actually like it animations off.
So I am guessing we all are seeing delays in animations which look like lag? it so so much smoother right now. Will report later on.
DroidTheory's Axi0m CrossBreef rom is based on 4.0.4 leak but has all the functionality of AOKP M4 (merged).
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I really love my Nexus. Gorgeous, perfectly sized 720p display, super sleek black curved display with NO carrier branding or capacitive buttons, nice loud speakerphone & ICS is fantastic. Great things to love about the Nexus!
But this phone Laaaaaaaaaaaaaags. And please don't tell me i got a bad one, or I need to reflash yada yada. If you don't agree about the lag, then you are in denial.
I'm currently running AKOP 4 & Francos 3rd Milestone + oc'd to 1.35.
I'll admit, his latest kernel sped it up again, but it seems like its only temporary. With every flash, it always starts out fast, but then after 2 weeks - it starts to slow down again.
Where do I notice it? Well lets see, try pulling down your status bar from the lock screen and see if there sometimes isn't a 1 or 2 sec delay. Is this due to the phone just waking up from being asleep at 300 mhz?
But its not just there. Opening text messages, call log, emails - its just slow.
I just kinda got used to the general lag in the system, but then I played with a Stock Galaxy s2 on GB the other day & I was amazed at how fast that phone was. It ran circles around my nexus.
So I got to thinking, on older computers with slower processors - if you try and run youtube at 720p @ full screen, it gets super choppy and laggy. Then I compared that to the nexus. Its trying to push ALOT of pixels. Is a 1.35 ghz processor enough for the resolution it runs?
Would a 1.5 or 1.7 ghz phone run it normally?
Whats with the Lag???
Franco milestones are stock gpu values so overclocking your CPU isn't doing much. I'm running the latest trinity and it's got a heavy gpu overclock and this phone is the smoothest Android GUI I've ever experienced and I've experienced a lot.
So yes yadayada, reflash, etc etc
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Thanks for this. I was on the fence between this or waiting for the gs3, currently running stock gb with adw pro on an exynos gs2, guess I'll just keep saving for the unlocked gs3 and hope Google Play carries it.
Don't bait the trolls.
Lol well I tried, enjoy Odin and touch wiz
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shadow65781 said:
Thanks for this. I was on the fence between this or waiting for the gs3, currently running stock gb with adw pro on an exynos gs2, guess I'll just keep saving for the unlocked gs3 and hope Google Play carries it.
Don't bait the trolls.
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Google Play won't carry - it's not a Google phone. It will be sold the same way the Galaxy S2 was.
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ChongoDroid said:
Franco milestones are stock gpu values so overclocking your CPU isn't doing much. I'm running the latest trinity and it's got a heavy gpu overclock and this phone is the smoothest Android GUI I've ever experienced and I've experienced a lot.
So yes yadayada, reflash, etc etc
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This, also, maybe try running something other than AOKP for a while. Though its really customisable, it isn't exactly the snappiest ROM.
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shadow65781 said:
Thanks for this. I was on the fence between this or waiting for the gs3, currently running stock gb with adw pro on an exynos gs2, guess I'll just keep saving for the unlocked gs3 and hope Google Play carries it.
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roflmao. Google Play won't carry it. Its not a Google phone... It'll be sold by your local carrier or importer.
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EyeAndroid said:
But this phone Laaaaaaaaaaaaaags. And please don't tell me i got a bad one, or I need to reflash yada yada. If you don't agree about the lag, then you are in denial.
I'm currently running AKOP 4 & Francos 3rd Milestone + oc'd to 1.35.
I'll admit, his latest kernel sped it up again, but it seems like its only temporary. With every flash, it always starts out fast, but then after 2 weeks - it starts to slow down again.
Where do I notice it? Well lets see, try pulling down your status bar from the lock screen and see if there sometimes isn't a 1 or 2 sec delay. Is this due to the phone just waking up from being asleep at 300 mhz?
But its not just there. Opening text messages, call log, emails - its just slow.
I just kinda got used to the general lag in the system, but then I played with a Stock Galaxy s2 on GB the other day & I was amazed at how fast that phone was. It ran circles around my nexus.
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I'm bone stock 4.0.4 and don't have any of this lag you're talking of. Essentially perfect, very few noticeable moments of lag.
This phone isn't laggy. You're just doing it wrong.
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ChongoDroid said:
Franco milestones are stock gpu values so overclocking your CPU isn't doing much. I'm running the latest trinity and it's got a heavy gpu overclock and this phone is the smoothest Android GUI I've ever experienced and I've experienced a lot.
So yes yadayada, reflash, etc etc
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Hmm well I have never tried the Trinity kernel, just thought everyone raves about franco so why switch? Didn't know the GPU would effect general performance. Always thought it was just for gaming. Trinity can be OC'd?
Too MUCH pRon
shadow65781 said:
Thanks for this. I was on the fence between this or waiting for the gs3, currently running stock gb with adw pro on an exynos gs2, guess I'll just keep saving for the unlocked gs3 and hope Google Play carries it.
Don't bait the trolls.
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Ya man, never been a huge fan of the S2 due to the general design of the phone + I hate touchwiz and odin.
Yesterday I was fed up & Just put in an order for an HTC One S but then cancelled it today when I heard the speakerphone and saw how amplified the dots of the pixels really can get when you run Super Amoled on a 960 x 540 res.
LOVE LOVE LOVE Stock ICS.
Learn to clean out your recent apps menu. Google integrated a task manager into the recent apps menu for a reason.
Your phone lags because it's running low on memory, and 99% of developers suck at memory management. Just because you don't have a taskbar at the bottom of the screen telling you how many apps you have open doesn't mean there probably isn't something that you left open, hogging your system resources. The same thing has happened on desktop computers for years, what makes you think your phone is going to act any different?
I just know that I run stock 4.0.4 + root, and it works just fine, no lag whatsoever... But, since you say your phone has a loud speakerphone, it must not be the Galaxy Nexus lol... At least not an Ok one, because it surely has one of the worst speakerphone I have ever heard... And don't call me Shirley!
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Learn to clean out your recent apps menu. Google integrated a task manager into the recent apps menu for a reason.
Your phone lags because it's running low on memory, and 99% of developers suck at memory management. Just because you don't have a taskbar at the bottom of the screen telling you how many apps you have open doesn't mean there probably isn't something that you left open, hogging your system resources. The same thing has happened on desktop computers for years, what makes you think your phone is going to act any different?
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You could be right on this. I dont ever restart my phone and I always just Go home when I'm done. Any way to have it auto kill after about an Hour or so?
Im surprised Thats not something Google would have implemented in ICS just for performance?
HinotoriBR said:
I just know that I run stock 4.0.4 + root, and it works just fine, no lag whatsoever... But, since you say your phone has a loud speakerphone, it must not be the Galaxy Nexus lol... At least not an Ok one, because it surely has one of the worst speakerphone I have ever heard... And don't call me Shirley!
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You must not have Owned any HTC phones
"Surely you cant be serious??!?"
"I am serious, and stop calling me Shirley"
earlyberd said:
Learn to clean out your recent apps menu. Google integrated a task manager into the recent apps menu for a reason.
Your phone lags because it's running low on memory, and 99% of developers suck at memory management. Just because you don't have a taskbar at the bottom of the screen telling you how many apps you have open doesn't mean there probably isn't something that you left open, hogging your system resources. The same thing has happened on desktop computers for years, what makes you think your phone is going to act any different?
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This is not at all necessary...
martonikaj said:
This is not at all necessary...
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Why do you say that?
(As i Just got finished downloading ATK)
EyeAndroid said:
You could be right on this. I dont ever restart my phone and I always just Go home when I'm done. Any way to have it auto kill after about an Hour or so?
Im surprised Thats not something Google would have implemented in ICS just for performance?
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i have a SG2...getting my nexus delivered tomorrow so i started browsing the nexus section...
for starters on any android you shouldnt press home unless you are leaving the app for a brief moment and are planning on going back to it...home will keep the app running...you have to use the back key to close out of many apps (especially the ones that dont have a designated exit button)
app management is very crucial but auto killing isnt good for the system...android will close apps on its own as space is needed...however there are certain apps that are service hogs and eat up ram...i am somewhat of an app hoarder but i know which apps to keep and which to get rid of...normally if you have like 120mb of free ram or so a dual core phone shouldnt ever lag...if it lags its not due to memory
on my SG2 i have like 200+ apps but almost always have like 250mb ram free (even without a reboot for several days)...on the rare occasions that i feel it lag i check and sometimes i will see that it dropped down to like 80mb free...a quick reboot fixes it
its also good to reboot your phone every few days
I'm reading a bone stock sprint galaxy nexus. I have no lag at all. And I'm coming from an epic touch. In my experience custom rom's slow down after a while. Which is why I usually stay stock with root.
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You could be right on this. I dont ever restart my phone and I always just Go home when I'm done. Any way to have it auto kill after about an Hour or so?
Im surprised Thats not something Google would have implemented in ICS just for performance?
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You want to try to avoid automated task killers because they can lead to stability issues if they're too aggressive, and as an additional background process they have the potential to eat your battery life. The safest way to kill apps is just by swiping them away with the recent apps menu.
Google tries really hard to implement a good system of memory management in Android, the problem is just that developers don't really utilize it. You can clearly see the difference especially if you like to run alternative browsers or old games. All of the stock Google apps work great and I can keep them open forever, but if I leave StumbleUpon or Plants Vs. Zombies open in the background long enough my phone will start to chug.
Does anyone fine scrolling a webpage on Google chrome a little bit slow as oppose to the stock browsers ?
It doesn't seem to do it on the nexus 7 and our didn't seem to on the gallacy s3, only see the issue on my note 2. Is anyone else experience this issue?
Same story here. The stock browser scrolls and zooms much smoother.
I've been seeing the same thing. I had the same issue on my GS2 and thought it was just the older hardware, guess not. Been thinking of switching to an alternative browser.
Personally I love chrome and have had no issues.
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Try Boat browser you wont look back, install Adobe Flash from XDA video below on it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGI87D7lVyA
For me chrome is also laggy. Best for me is stock+full screen and gestures....
I have to agree, It seems that the stock browser seems to work pretty well under most situations. I'm not sure why chrome behaves this way, it was the same on my note 1.
Chrome is bit laggy than stock browser.it was same issue on s3 too.
Before rooting when screen dim, I can click home screen and it returns to where I was.but now it closes down to homescreen.
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Does it perform any better with a different ROM? My nexus7 never had the issue, it was buttery-smooth and its only sporting a tegra3 CPU. I feel as if its maybe some sort of graphical driver or something...
The stock browser works fine, buttery smooth, almost as good as iPhone/Safari, but I'm at a loss as to explain chrome.. It worked fine on the S3 I tried at the shops (I think it was the I9305?). Has anyone had any insight as to why it might be slowish on some and faster on other devices?
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Does it perform any better with a different ROM? My nexus7 never had the issue, it was buttery-smooth and its only sporting a tegra3 CPU. I feel as if its maybe some sort of graphical driver or something...
The stock browser works fine, buttery smooth, almost as good as iPhone/Safari, but I'm at a loss as to explain chrome.. It worked fine on the S3 I tried at the shops (I think it was the I9305?). Has anyone had any insight as to why it might be slowish on some and faster on other devices?
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Chrome is laggy on any device including the Nexus 7 that I sold.
Chrome is laggy on my ipad 3 as well. Stock browsers seem to be much better integrated with cpu / gpu. Even on ipad safari owns chrome in terms of smoothness.
I have the Omega ROM on my Note II and Chrome is very stuttery when scrolling. I really like the way Chrome works but just can't use it due to the jerkiness of the scrolling, and it's also slower when flinging up and down long pages.
At the moment using Dolphin which uses the built in engine with it's own UI on top and liking it mostly. Will give Boat a try though.
Hi guys, I just got the tab 3 8.0, and I like most part of it but the performance is seriously bad..I have already restored all my apps from Google server. While running apps and switching between them, I can't take all the lags it has. I just got it today so I can return it if I want but I'm wondering if rooting this device actually gains much performance improvements. I used to have a galaxy s2x, which has a similar if not worse spec than this tablet, and I don't know if It was because I running rooted version of touchwiz or not but the performance was pretty good. This tablet is much worse. A simple reboot fixes the lag but after a few hours, as I use it, I notice the stutters while using it. I just had a serious lag in Google plus app, it was stuttering so bad, but it came back to smooth after 5 seconds.
So will installing the custom Rom available for tab 3 8.0 improve the performance significantly? I know there are not many ROMs for tab 3 8.0, so any user of this device just rooted the tab and tweak it themselves to gain performance improvements? Not just little bit, but a lot.
Thanks!
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Hi guys, I just got the tab 3 8.0, and I like most part of it but the performance is seriously bad..I have already restored all my apps from Google server. While running apps and switching between them, I can't take all the lags it has. I just got it today so I can return it if I want but I'm wondering if rooting this device actually gains much performance improvements. I used to have a galaxy s2x, which has a similar if not worse spec than this tablet, and I don't know if It was because I running rooted version of touchwiz or not but the performance was pretty good. This tablet is much worse. A simple reboot fixes the lag but after a few hours, as I use it, I notice the stutters while using it. I just had a serious lag in Google plus app, it was stuttering so bad, but it came back to smooth after 5 seconds.
So will installing the custom Rom available for tab 3 8.0 improve the performance significantly? I know there are not many ROMs for tab 3 8.0, so any user of this device just rooted the tab and tweak it themselves to gain performance improvements? Not just little bit, but a lot.
Thanks!
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One thread is enough, you don't have to post the same question in multiple sections.
As I said on your other thread, stop blaming the device and look at your apps. My 8.0 isn't laggy at all. In fact it's pretty zippy. Chances are one of your apps is causing the issue or you have too much stuff filling your memory. Do a factory reset. If the lag stays gone add your apps back a couple at a time till you find the one that's not playing nice. How much free space/memory do you have left? The fact that the lag goes away when you reboot points to it being an app problem.
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Hi guys, I just got the tab 3 8.0, and I like most part of it but the performance is seriously bad..I have already restored all my apps from Google server. While running apps and switching between them, I can't take all the lags it has. I just got it today so I can return it if I want but I'm wondering if rooting this device actually gains much performance improvements. I used to have a galaxy s2x, which has a similar if not worse spec than this tablet, and I don't know if It was because I running rooted version of touchwiz or not but the performance was pretty good. This tablet is much worse. A simple reboot fixes the lag but after a few hours, as I use it, I notice the stutters while using it. I just had a serious lag in Google plus app, it was stuttering so bad, but it came back to smooth after 5 seconds.
So will installing the custom Rom available for tab 3 8.0 improve the performance significantly? I know there are not many ROMs for tab 3 8.0, so any user of this device just rooted the tab and tweak it themselves to gain performance improvements? Not just little bit, but a lot.
Thanks!
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go to developers options and turn off all animations,
also disable CPU power saving option in power saving mode,
then check if you feel any difference
Thanks for replies guys!
So I believe it was ram issue. Too little ram left when it was stuttering really bad. However, I'm wondering why this device was not releasing ram by closing open apps for the forgoing app to run well. This is the android way of managing ram isn't it? But when I checked the ram manager in the task manager app that came with the tab, there was very little ram left, less than 100mb I believe.
After I have been using it for more now, I also rooted it, and I deleted almost all the unnecessary bloatware. I think I see a huge improvement in performance after I did this, deleting bloatware.
The tablet runs pretty well now.
Although..I still see some stutters in animations, where the animation has dropped frame rates. Is this just due to Touchwiz? It doesn't happen every time, but sometime when opening app, or switching between apps in recent apps panel. The animations sometimes are pretty choppy. It is not a huge deal, but I just remember that my S2X was much smoother. Maybe it's because I was running a custom rom which was heavily tweaked by deviant development.
Any info would be great!
Thanks for your help again guys.
Hmmm, i have no problem at all, the tab 3 runs pretty smooth, stock. Now I have set the animations to 0.5 in developer options and it runs even smoother. Ok, it's not as fast as the Note 2, but it runs very nice. Very happy with it. (Using Nova launcher)
(I also disabled some if the apps that come with it, SNS Samsung Facebook, Samsung widgets, flipboard an the lot)
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Gede said:
Hmmm, i have no problem at all, the tab 3 runs pretty smooth, stock. Now I have set the animations to 0.5 in developer options and it runs even smoother. Ok, it's not as fast as the Note 2, but it runs very nice. Very happy with it. (Using Nova launcher)
(I also disabled some if the apps that come with it, SNS Samsung Facebook, Samsung widgets, flipboard an the lot)
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I see. Mine is running pretty nice right now but I'm feel kind of afraid as I use it thinking "will this animation be choppy?" As I long press the home button or something. Lol I really don't like choppiness.
So you don't notice ANY choppiness in animation? I want to know if it's only my device so that I can figure out what's the cause. I'm using nova launcher as well btw.
Thanks!
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sw6lee said:
I see. Mine is running pretty nice right now but I'm feel kind of afraid as I use it thinking "will this animation be choppy?" As I long press the joke button or something. Lol I really don't like choppiness.
So you don't notice ANY choppiness in animation? I want to know if it's only my device so that I can figure out what's the cause. I'm using nova launcher as well btw.
Thanks!
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Can't remember I did. Running smooth.
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Gede said:
Can't remember I did. Running smooth.
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Okay thanks for letting me know. Now I need to find why sometimes it lags even though it's better than before now. Hmm..
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I’ve had the GNex since the day it came out. Unlocked bootloader, flashed a new rom and did everything from there.
I’ve noticed that with every new nightly build, there was always a bug here and there which made it felt like this phone was never really solid.
Don’t get me wrong. I love this phone and it has served me well.
Recently, I bought the nexus 5 for my wife. Instantly, it felt a billion times faster right out of the box compared to my custom GNex.
It got me thinking, was the GNex always been THIS SLOW and LAGGY? Or is it the wrong ROM I’ve been using all this time? I’ve went from PA to AOKP to Slim and now Liquid. I’ve used the latest Kitkat on all and there’s ALWAYS this super bad lag after using it for a few days.
It got to the point where I did a FULL DATA WIPE on every new nightly that came out.
I’ve always done the following when installing a new ROM:
1. Wipe Data
2. Wipe cache
3. Wipe dalvik
4. Reboot into recovery again. Repeat 1-3 then install new ROM, then gapps.
5. Reboot phone one last time to finalize.
The new ROM always feels smooth/fast in the beginning, but after a while, it feels like $H*t.
I've also tried this with different combination of kernels such as Franco, Dirty V and with ART enable and disabled.
Any difference is negligible and doesn't seem to vastly improve performance.
I don’t have many apps. In fact, 95% of the apps I use are google apps (gmail, etc) Then I have pandora, evernote and a couple of other productive apps and that’s about it.
So what’s really slowing down my GNex? Too many flashes in the past 2-years? Bad ROM? Bad installation?
Or has it always been like this and I just haven’t noticed how slow/laggy it was?
Your help would be appreciated. I really don’t want to jump onto a new phone quite yet.
First of all dont even try to compare it to the Nexus 5. Its just a newer phone.. Of course its faster. My phone is flying. Things age over time. Soaybe your device is just aging. And with the right kernel and settings you can make your phone really fast. I never had lag but I had faster and slower roms or kernels.. Its what you make of it and what you think is lag..
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First of all dont even try to compare it to the Nexus 5. Its just a newer phone.. Of course its faster. My phone is flying. Things age over time. Soaybe your device is just aging. And with the right kernel and settings you can make your phone really fast. I never had lag but I had faster and slower roms or kernels.. Its what you make of it and what you think is lag..
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In that case, please share your every details. I'd love to try them out and give new life to my GNex.
Which ROM, which kernel, performance, every main settings etc...
Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 5 are just different generations of the family, they ought to have differences. In my opinion, no matter how you optimize our Galaxy Nexus, it can run nicely, the animations can be mostly smooth, but it just couldn't catch up to a Nexus 5, mostly in apps' loading speed and other things that requires sheer CPU power. Sure, it doesn't even catch up to my properly optimized Nexus 4.
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nexus 5 is best...
GNex 5 is not comparable to Nexus 5.I have tried GNex earlier and i am quite dissatisfied from it.Now i switched to Nexus 5 and there no hanging problem in nexus 5 at all and provide good memory usage.
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In that case, please share your every details. I'd love to try them out and give new life to my GNex.
Which ROM, which kernel, performance, every main settings etc...
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Have you gave Vanir a try? If you haven't already well maybe you should because this is by far the smoothest/fastest ROM available for the Gnex. It may lag here and there but it is certainly tolerable given that this a 2+ year old phone.
Comparing the gnex to any current flagship phone is kind of silly considering they all contain the latest and greatest in CPU's/GPU's + more ram . So obviously there will be significant differences in terms of performance...not sure why you would expect anything else.
Give vanir a try and see if your Gnex runs a little better. PA AOKP and CM11 are noticeably laggier than Vanir...don't know why but they just are. If Vanir doesn't make your Gnex experience any better well just deal with it until you buy a new phone.
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In that case, please share your every details. I'd love to try them out and give new life to my GNex.
Which ROM, which kernel, performance, every main settings etc...
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Vanir with dirtyv/askp/askpremix (what i feel like lol) and nephs settings..
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It's just that I don't recall the phone being THIS SLOW compared last year or a few months ago when JB was around.
It definitely feels so much more laggier these days.
Has it been a global change in all the ROMs that infected all gnex roms?
Compared to newer phones our Galaxy Nexus is slower i think. I got my Mum the Motorola Moto G and it does seem a lot more responsive than my Galaxy Nexus running the CM11 M4 Build.
However i do have a lot of apps running in the background such as Facebook, WhatsApp, Push Email and so on, the Moto G was a fresh phone with nothing on.
I do feel the Galaxy Nexus is significantly faster with a 4.4 rom, compared to 4.3 or 4.2, however its not as snappy as a newer device, which considering the phone is 2 and a half years old i dont think you can expect it to be.
I think also apps get more demanding, i mean WhatsApp is getting huge now and using more ram, as are other apps you likely use on a daily basis.
I dont have lag.. Maybe you can share your setup/settings with us? And the Moto G is a newer phone with F2FS this makes it faster.. Also please dont use the facebook app. It slows your device and eats battery and ram. Probably all developers here will tell you the app should be banned from google play.
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Here's a list of exactly all the apps on my phone right now:
Stock browser
Stock calculator
Stock calendar
Stock camera
Stock Clock
Stock Document
Stock Downloads
Stock Gallery
Stock Messaging
Stock news/weather
Stock People
Stock Phone
Stock voice dialer
Google Chrome browser
Google Chrome to Phone
Google Drive
Google Gmail
Google
Google Settings
Google Play Music
Google Play store
Google Voice
Liquid Explorer (Came with liquid smooth)
"music" (Came with Liquid smooth)
Omniswitch (Came with LS)
Torch (came with LS)
Dropbox
Netflix
Pandora
Settings
Stocks
I Bolded the ones I use heavily on a daily basis. The rest of them I barely touch.
You'll see that I use VERY little apps, but somehow my GNEX feels like its LAGGY!
I will honestly say I heavily use Google Chrome Browser 85% of the time on my phone. I like to open up 3-4 tabs at one. But this couldnt possibly be the sole reason why my phone is SO LAGGY!
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Here's a list of exactly all the apps on my phone right now:
Stock browser
Stock calculator
Stock calendar
Stock camera
Stock Clock
Stock Document
Stock Downloads
Stock Gallery
Stock Messaging
Stock news/weather
Stock People
Stock Phone
Stock voice dialer
Google Chrome browser
Google Chrome to Phone
Google Drive
Google Gmail
Google
Google Settings
Google Play Music
Google Play store
Google Voice
Liquid Explorer (Came with liquid smooth)
"music" (Came with Liquid smooth)
Omniswitch (Came with LS)
Torch (came with LS)
Dropbox
Netflix
Pandora
Settings
Stocks
I Bolded the ones I use heavily on a daily basis. The rest of them I barely touch.
You'll see that I use VERY little apps, but somehow my GNEX feels like its LAGGY!
I will honestly say I heavily use Google Chrome Browser 85% of the time on my phone. I like to open up 3-4 tabs at one. But this couldnt possibly be the sole reason why my phone is SO LAGGY!
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What kernel you use?
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What kernel you use?
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Stock Liquid smooth rom and stock kernel.
I've tried this rom with dirty v and franco and they seem to lag the phone so I stayed with stock everything. Please note that I have tried this rom with both those kernels WITH ART enabled and disabled. Each time with a FULL data wipe.
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Stock Liquid smooth rom and stock kernel.
I've tried this rom with dirty v and franco and they seem to lag the phone so I stayed with stock everything. Please note that I have tried this rom with both those kernels WITH ART enabled and disabled. Each time with a FULL data wipe.
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That's weird. I'm using LS as well paired with DirtyV and it runs just fine. I mean, it's not perfect but I would say it's fast as Android 4.1 was. And I'm using ART
How much of free storage you have?
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I agree with all of these guys about what they are saying but I heard nothing but good things about the gnex. Maybe your doing something wrong with it?
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I agree with all of these guys about what they are saying but I heard nothing but good things about the gnex. Maybe your doing something wrong with it?
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I've noticed that my navigation bar always consists of 5 items: Google Now, Back, Home, Recents and Last app.
I used those very frequently. To each one of those, I've also assigned a long press action to them: Bookmark#1, #2, Voice Command, Calculator and app drawer.
My nav ring has 5 item as well, with each their own long press.
I tend to launch each app not using the recents button, but rather the shortcuts that I've assigned them. That way, all apps I frequently access is only a single press or swipe away. The more buttons I press, the more I am annoyed.
^^ Could this be the reason why my phone laggs so much?
My ram shows that I have 176MB using dirty V RSR. And less )~60MB) with the others. But regardless, 176MB still feels like 60MB. Laggg..
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Vanir with dirtyv/askp/askpremix (what i feel like lol) and nephs settings..
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OMG! Latest Vanir with ASKP Chamber of secrets is amazing!
My GNex now feels like a whole new phone. It's just flying! OMG!
OHHHHH MMMMYYYYGOOOOODDDNEESS! I love it so far.
So far I've tried to lag it by doing my daily stuff and so far, no laggs like I see on AOKP, PA, Liquid smooth or ASOB.
Something must be wrong with those other roms.
I'm going to keep playing with this rom and see how it turns out.
Goodness sake.
1. If you compare the Galaxy Nexus with the Nexus 5, you're trying to compare a ferrari 599 GTO with a Ferrari 360 spyder. -_- dafuq.
Yes spyder is fast, but the freaking technology advanced by 3 years.
2. Performance is not completely comprimised. It's by how much you make the ROM lean, and how efficient each custom kernel runs on your device.
3. Make sure the KERNEL you use has the optimizations you want.
Cheers.
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Amperific said:
2. Performance is not completely comprimised. It's by how much you make the ROM lean, and how efficient each custom kernel runs on your device.
3. Make sure the KERNEL you use has the optimizations you want.
Cheers.
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I've noticed the most lag when I use the Google Chrome Browser.
I tend to always have at lest 2 tabs going.
What kernel or kernel optimization should I be looking for in order to maximize the Galaxy Nexus for this particular task?
I started using Chrome Beta instead of regular Chrome few weeks ago. For me, it feels a liitle smoother
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