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Verizon Reps didn't give me the Thumbs up

So, I walked into 2 Verizon stores over the last two days. I wanted to use one of my upgrades to go from my Rezound to the Nexus. I spoke to two different reps and both told me they were not a fan of the phone. Design wise its nice and ICS is cool, but they said there are some problems with the reception and they're seeing more exchanges than they'd like.
I have no problems with my phone. I like it, but I love the larger screen and that's its lighter.
Do any of you wish you waited a bit before buying this phone (because Verizon already pushed this phone back so far) to see if an update cleared any of the issues you guys are having? All phones have their bugs, but I hate that the bootloader is locked and I can't go custom crazy like I wanted to.

Bootloader is very easily unlocked and you can do any mods you want.
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One thing I've learned from reading many mobile phone forums, the Vz sales people often know less than the informed reader. I went thru 4 Bionics and after having issues even after the OTA I packed up all my stuff and returned it for the Nexus.
I don't wish I waited. I love the idea of owning a Google feature phone knowing I'll always have the latest updates and they'll continue to provide updates for a long time coming.
The bootloader is super easy to unlock on this phone and it's equally simple to root. I never rooted my Bionic b/c I ways waiting to see if I ever got a stable phone before I monkeyed with it. The Nexus I rooted after 5 days. I think this phone is going to receive a lot of developer attention because it's so easy to work on. I don't think the radio is as strong as what Moto uses, but I've never had any reception issues.

sebastianraven said:
So, I walked into 2 Verizon stores over the last two days. I wanted to use one of my upgrades to go from my Rezound to the Nexus. I spoke to two different reps and both told me they were not a fan of the phone. Design wise its nice and ICS is cool, but they said there are some problems with the reception and they're seeing more exchanges than they'd like.
I have no problems with my phone. I like it, but I love the larger screen and that's its lighter.
Do any of you wish you waited a bit before buying this phone (because Verizon already pushed this phone back so far) to see if an update cleared any of the issues you guys are having? All phones have their bugs, but I hate that the bootloader is locked and I can't go custom crazy like I wanted to.
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Im surprised they didnt try to get you to buy the iPhone, like most ATT and VZW sheeps do.
They (and the people returning the phones), apparently do not know that the signal bug is a bug and will be fixed soon.
Get the SGN, you wont regret it

andy2na said:
Im surprised they didnt try to get you to buy the iPhone, like most ATT and VZW sheeps do.
They (and the people returning the phones), apparently do not know that the signal bug is a bug and will be fixed soon.
Get the SGN, you wont regret it
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So by "fixed soon" you mean the GNex is going to show you more bars for the same signal it currently gets? In my area, that just means I'll show some signal and not have any data network. I've owned several VZW phones and have never had dropped calls at my house like with the GNex. My advice - the GNex is the best phone on the market *if you get signal with it* end of story. If you don't (like me), it's just an expensive paperweight with a pretty screen and "faster updates." BFD if I can't make or receive calls with it out of my home. So anyway, my actual advice is to try the GNex first. If you get signal where you live/work/play, by all means enjoy an awesome phone. If not, return it for something with a better antenna.
Unless Samsung personally delivers a migrant worker to my house to install a newer, better antenna in my device, I don't think any software fix is going to help me (and yes, I've flashed the newest radios to no avail).
Sucks, and I don't want to get rid of it but I think I'm out of options.
Todd

I wouldn't put too much faith in the store employees. Most are not that informed.
It's a good phone, certain aspects may not be as good but the pluses outweigh the negatives.
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I had a "temp" rezound for a week. Loved the phone. In fact I recommended it to a few "semi-techie" (non flashing) co-workers. We're IT guys and service hotels. We climb ladders and run cables. So a heavy-duty phone is nice. The Rezound felt like a heavy duty phone that the guys like. Signal and battery was good.
For me, I prefer the Nexus. I have the extended battery which doesn't add much but every little bit helps on android phones. Both last about the same time with battery life. The Rezound was my temp phone, so I really wasn't interested in setting it up. Just used it barely for work calls. The Nexus, I can't put down. Surfing, emails, games, customization, etc. Both last about 15+ hours with a few hours at night surfing XDA. Pretty impressed.
Signal (just going by bars) was "better" with the Rezound. We know now that Verizon beefs up their signal bars ala iPhone style. Verizon phones typically show 3-4 bars where the Nexus will show 0-1. Both still have the same -db levels thus both getting the same service, but the Nexus is showing TRUE signals bars. Verizon is supposedly working on a patch to increase the number of bars per -db. It's a visual issue. The latest Verizon radio (not public yet) fixes lots of the 3G/4G hand-offs and works much better. Battery life has also greatly improved with the, currently unreleased, 4.0.3 + New Radio/Baseband.
I do disable LTE because I get 2-4mb 3G in my area, which is plenty for syncing emails and facebook type stuff. I don't need a 60+Mbps LTE cell connection all day.
After some pretty heavy usage today at work (SMS, surfing, games , emails, xda), from 8am-2pm I have 75% battery left on the Nexus. 25% in 6 hours = 24 hours battery life

I wouldn't listen to anything a rep says. As far as reception, did a test from my device and posted it on my blog. There is nothing wrong with the reception on the phone. If your device does have a legitimate issue, you need to exchange it.
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My GNex consistenly sits 10-20 db lower than my D2 sitting next to each other on the counter. Admittedly I live in an "outlier" area as far as Verizon's network goes, but if my D2 can manage an average of 80 db, why can my Nexus only muster between 100 and 110 most of the time? I've never seen it go below 93 at my house, where I've seen my D2 get as low as 65 dB. Again, new radios don't help for me. To me it just seems like the Samsung antenna is not as sensitive as in the motorola, so to say there are "no reception issues" simply because you may not experience them is patently false. I've been to three VZW stores now and all three of them said swapping out for a new Nexus is doable, but will not fix the issue because of Samsung's crappy antennas. At least two of the people I spoke with were Nexus owners, one owns a Razr, for whatever that's worth.

sebastianraven said:
I spoke to two different reps.
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phone store reps and apple 'geniuses' are derps. they are just about as knowledgeable about technical stuff as you and i are about cthulu. ive had a genius tell me that my ipod would have difficulty connecting to n-networks if i was an lte area... its an ipod... it doesnt give a **** about lte. similarly verizon reps have told me that the droid incredible 1 and 2 have the same hardware with a different case.
most people on xda are actually highly knowledgeable and i would trust opinions out here over any vzw derp.

At my local store the Nexus is all but hidden in the stock room. It's on display but in the group of old phones across the room from the iphones and RAZR. I asked the guy and he admitted to not knowing much about the phone but that they are being pumped by management to push the razr and that xyboard tablet. It's obvious verizon corporate would rather not push unlocked phones but imo carried the nexus to snag the root community.
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That's funny. At my local vzw store they don't keep a nexus out on the display. The sign and mount for it are out, but you have to go to the service desk and stand in front of them after being blessed with the opportunity to hold it briefly. All other available models are out in multiple locations for customers to play with.
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I went from the TBolt -> Rezound -> Nexus so hopefully I can offer some insight ;-)
TBolt reception wasn't an issue for me in general. At work the cafeteria is in the basement of our building and I always saw 4G with an occasional drop to 3g. The Nexus occasionally see's signal, but I still prefer the Nexus and having a Google experience device.
Will it be fixed? I hope so.
Could it be software related? Potentially, as much as people want to argue we just don't know for sure. The Nexus S 4G was plagued with performance issues when it was released and they were fixed it with a software update. (note that it wasn't a reception issue)
Some phones have better antenna's than others, that's the simple truth. I've seen excellent reception at times and crappy receptions at other times.
The Rezound I had was a good phone, but I felt the need to tinker with it to get rid of bloatware, tweak performance, etc...I don't feel that need on the Nexus. I have pros and cons for each phone but in the end there are intangibles about the Nexus that I enjoy more. FYI, my second Rezound had great battery life but in all honesty it matches my Nexus. I've hit 12-18 hours every day this week, and it's been a normal work week for me. There's no WiFi for me to connect to from 6:30am until 6:00pm, I'm on 4g the entire time and streaming music for 1-2 hours a day. I don't had a ton of screen on time at the end of the day 1 1/2 to 2 hours.
If you stick with your Rezound you'll have ICS in a few months more than likely, and it does have many of the cool features already built in like the screenshot capability. I hope you are ok with S-On because you can't assume that it will ever be unlocked. Odds are that eventually it will, but until it happens you have to determine your level of satisfaction with it as the phone stands now.
Good luck in your decision.

100% happy with mine. Hands down love this unlocked, rooted, custom rom, OC kernel, blazing fast phone

Asking for your local VZW store's reps' opinions is like asking a Genius at an Apple store, I wouldn't trust their "expertise" about much more than flipping burgers
Unlock your bootloader and enjoy your amazing phone sir.

T-Keith said:
I wouldn't put too much faith in the store employees. Most are not that informed.
It's a good phone, certain aspects may not be as good but the pluses outweigh the negatives.
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They might not know everything, but they should have a grasp on what phones are getting returned/exchanged, which probably eats at their commision.
The lady that helped me with a tbolt accessory tonight had the nexus and liked it. Told her I couldn't wait and got the rezound, and she said that was a good phone too.
I agree with others that verizon has its own agenda and is pushing moto products over superior htc and samsung devices...
player911 said:
I had a "temp" rezound for a week. Loved the phone. In fact I recommended it to a few "semi-techie" (non flashing) co-workers. We're IT guys and service hotels. We climb ladders and run cables. So a heavy-duty phone is nice. The Rezound felt like a heavy duty phone that the guys like. Signal and battery was good.
For me, I prefer the Nexus. I have the extended battery which doesn't add much but every little bit helps on android phones. Both last about the same time with battery life. The Rezound was my temp phone, so I really wasn't interested in setting it up. Just used it barely for work calls. The Nexus, I can't put down. Surfing, emails, games, customization, etc. Both last about 15+ hours with a few hours at night surfing XDA. Pretty impressed.
Signal (just going by bars) was "better" with the Rezound. We know now that Verizon beefs up their signal bars ala iPhone style. Verizon phones typically show 3-4 bars where the Nexus will show 0-1. Both still have the same -db levels thus both getting the same service, but the Nexus is showing TRUE signals bars. Verizon is supposedly working on a patch to increase the number of bars per -db. It's a visual issue. The latest Verizon radio (not public yet) fixes lots of the 3G/4G hand-offs and works much better. Battery life has also greatly improved with the, currently unreleased, 4.0.3 + New Radio/Baseband.
I do disable LTE because I get 2-4mb 3G in my area, which is plenty for syncing emails and facebook type stuff. I don't need a 60+Mbps LTE cell connection all day.
After some pretty heavy usage today at work (SMS, surfing, games , emails, xda), from 8am-2pm I have 75% battery left on the Nexus. 25% in 6 hours = 24 hours battery life
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How does this explain most people seeing a 20db difference from the nexus (or charge) and any other 4g device? Seems to me, the signal bar indicator isn't necessarily the problem.
I know on my rezound, I will show no bars of 4g and still have a connection (usually around -100). With 4 bars I'm usually -75 or so.

nrfitchett4 said:
They might not know everything, but they should have a grasp on what phones are getting returned/exchanged, which probably eats at their commision.
The lady that helped me with a tbolt accessory tonight had the nexus and liked it. Told her I couldn't wait and got the rezound, and she said that was a good phone too.
I agree with others that verizon has its own agenda and is pushing moto products over superior htc and samsung devices...
How does this explain most people seeing a 20db difference from the nexus (or charge) and any other 4g device? Seems to me, the signal bar indicator isn't necessarily the problem.
I know on my rezound, I will show no bars of 4g and still have a connection (usually around -100). With 4 bars I'm usually -75 or so.
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I currently have a nexus and love the phone, hate the reception. I can't get signal where my droidx could. I pray they can fix it before 1/15 or I will have to return it.
The rezound only displays 3G signal not 4G, try switching to cdma and you see that the DBs remain the same. Not sure why that is but I have spent a lot of time considering this as a alternate phone and there is now way to tell what the DB level is of 4G from the status menu.

With light use today. I'm at 61% at 11pm off a charge from 9am. 9am-11pm.
That's awesome. With light use my Rezound would still be about dead at 11-midnight.
Light use = several (4-5) quick phone calls. Texting. Push Gmail/exchange. Twitter/Facebook. Wordfued. XDA.
4.0.3 CM9 Lang w/ latest LTE radio/baseband.
They can always pump more power to the radio antenna to get better signal but at the loss of battery life.
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SAR Levels

Anyone know SAR(Radiation level) in Motorola defy CM7.1...Because when i am making calls my fingers r getting shocks and getting sick by talking more..

LOL man either your handset is faulty... or you read a few scaremongering articles about the dangers of mobile phones and it's all in your head.
Now, two things. One, this should not be in the development section. Two, it's a question you really could have resolved yourself.

Passa91 said:
LOL man either your handset is faulty... or you read a few scaremongering articles about the dangers of mobile phones and it's all in your head.
Now, two things. One, this should not be in the development section. Two, it's a question you really could have resolved yourself.
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I didn't know about that script before, it kicks a$$

that L.M.G.T.F.Y. is freaking hillarious..
anyway..
really? this such thread ended up on Development section?
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No phone can ever emit enough radiation to actually make your sick so soon. Shocks have nothing to do with radiation either. So send your 'shocking' defy to a service center and go to a doctor for your sickness
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Passa91 said:
...scaremongering articles about the dangers of mobile phones.../URL].
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I am scared of radiation. Our heads are being baked constantly not only by phones but almost every electronic device. I hope we find something better than wireless communications.
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sferrariba said:
I am scared of radiation. Our heads are being baked constantly not only by phones but almost every electronic device. I hope we find something better than wireless communications.
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Your head is thousand times more baked by the NATURAL radiation of the sun than by your phone or even your microwave. Up till now i've never heard of anyone dying of sun or cosmic radiation in 2000 years
Sent from my 1Ghz CM7 + CM9 Defy

Have you ever held an iPhone? I bet you did. If you "felt" the Defy's radiation, you would probably died from the iPhone's radiation.
Anyway, the SAR level ranges from 1.52( body ) to 1.53( head ). Courtesy of Google.

People really have no clue when it comes to radiation, its different forms and how one can 'bake' with it.
Electromagnetic radiation in the area of radio waves simply is incapable of inflicting damage, especially at the very low intensities our devices are emitting. Microwaves are capable of heating substances (most notably 2400 MHz waves in your microwave oven) but for that we need hundreds of Watts of power. Your phone with wifi - around the same frequency - might be able to heaten up your head by a tenth of a degree. Just sitting in the sun or next to a heating radiator - oh dear! - has a much greater effect..
Visible light, also electromagnetic radiation, has a much much higher amount of energy than radio and micro waves. So if you are really worried you better stay indoors during the day, and full moon nights too.
When we raise the energy bar even higher we end up at UV, x-rays and the such. Then and ONLY then one has to start paying attention because those frequencies can conflict physical damage to DNA, tissues etc, which is a TOTALLY different process from heating up water in your microwave. A little heat never caused cancer. Well I hope not as I am living in the tropics. Now the only relevant x-rays on this planet are men-made in controlled environments so nothing to worry about there. Leaves out the UV radiation. Well yes THAT can cause skin cancer. No surprise there I guess.
People should stop talking nonsense about radiation when they have no idea what they are talking about.

When ever i receiving or making calls my ear is paining if i talk for 5 minutes i am trying to end call in 1 minute sometimes i even getting shocks to my fingers when i am on call.. Is there anyway to reduce signal strength.. Please help me.

jayanth1255 said:
When ever i receiving or making calls my ear is paining if i talk for 5 minutes i am trying to end call in 1 minute sometimes i even getting shocks to my fingers when i am on call.. Is there anyway to reduce signal strength.. Please help me.
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Dont use Mobile phone...

use some headset or bluetooth device,
make your phone far away from your head
trust me

Try another baseband. This might reduce your signal strength. Use Baseband switcher for this,,,

I tried other baseband too least is 850/1900 and when i using that i cant hear other's voice.. Previously when i use samsung or Motorola i never received such high signals.. Thanks for your reply guys..

jayanth1255 said:
I tried other baseband too least is 850/1900 and when i using that i cant hear other's voice.. Previously when i use samsung or Motorola i never received such high signals.. Thanks for your reply guys..
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when trying the other basebands you can't swap the frequency range that the phone is receiving ie using 850/1900 when the phone is built for 900/2100 as the radio is not tuned to that frequency, also the service provider may not operate on that band,
teamwork makes the dream work

Even when i putting i my pocket i feel my thies and other parts feeling pain with that radiation i dont know how many observed it.. So finally came into conclusion to use headset, keeping far away from ears, not to use phone much and better try to hold in hands not in pockets and there is no alternative application or procedure to reduce signal strength.. Thank you guys

You have a faulty Defy.....
Just send it for service
Herpderp Defy.

Poor Quality Control Verizon LTE GNex on 3 Issues & Severe Variations among devices

Poor Quality Control Verizon LTE GNex on 3 Issues & Severe Variations among devices
First of all, if your first CDMA Verizon galaxy nexus worked fine from day one; good for you! I am writing this entire post because I want more Galaxy Nexus owners in the future to experience the same thing...saying "Mine is perfect!"
I definitely can agree with how amazing this phone is...it's just that I had to go through many of them to find the One and with 4 months of misery. The difference between the good and the bad devices are light and day....It is amazing how some of us have an awesome Galaxy Nexus and some of us have horrible Galaxy Nexus....after paying same amount of money.
During the past 4 months, I have gone through 2 New nexus (first one I bought, second one new replacement from the store after going through SIM card replacements and factory resets) and 2 factory refurbished nexus after I literally called every week at 611 to call both technical & customer representative (tier 2 & 3) due to :
(1) One-way-microphone cut off issue even when Data is turned off, our voice will start turning into a choppy, static robotic voice to the other party as soon as 5 seconds into a call on 10-50% of phone calls via bluetooth / speakerphone / regular phone earpiece.
(http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24019)
"Personally believe to be both hardware & software related"
(2) 4G LTE dropping voice/data every 5-10mins especially when you transmit large amount of data (e.g. youtube videos or google music cloud storage) deeming this phone unusable unless you turn off 4G entirely even in -75dBm full signal zone stationary in San Francisco, CA as well as anywhere else.
(http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24345) "Personally believe that this is entirely hardware issue because my last one is better already after one day of using it, we will see."
(3) Vertical Banding / Severe Pink Tint / Grainy screen / purple tinted screen / heavy yellow tint on either 55% bottom of the screen or 100% of the screen even at 80% brightness (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391509) (We are not trying to be picky, we know no sAMOLED screens are perfect. But some that I personally seen have been so poorly quality controlled that these panels shouldn't even have been used to see the light outside the factory.)
For the first 2 months when I talked to Verizon Wireless customer/technical service & samsung technical support (Samsung only says, they never heard about this issue and will say you have a bad antenna and they will replace it for you when you send the unit in for 3-4 weeks) they literally told me they are not aware of this issue and/or aware but it is a software issue which the update will resolve very soon. (The supposed update was first promised to come by end of Jan, then end of Feb, then end of March, then they started to admit that it is entirely upto Samsung and they have no control over this issue and at least some admit that there's technical bulletin written on this issue and this is a know issue.)
I know not all products are perfect. But I wish the Verizon Wireless was a little bit more up-front about these major defect and made official announcements that they are aware and is working on it (I say major because these issues are not like "Oh, my phone speaker is weak. or This phone is laggy time to time." but more like, I can't use this phone as a phone nor as a 4G LTE device.)
The bottom line is that there are so many variations among the nexus device that it's almost torturous to go through the "Bad Batches" if you were not lucky enough to find one that works within the first / second device. I almost expect 5-10% defected device from the production line in all electronics manufacturing process...But this is just ridiculous. We shouldn't try to defend VZW or Samsung because if we do, the next nexus will still come with poor quality control and let these phones out of the factory to the users hand. Even if it did happen, I want VZW to be more upfront about it then just caring for the massive amount of bad batches on an individual bases.
if you have any suggestions on how we users can do about preventing these from happening or at least minimize it, please share it with us.
My final wish is that One-Way-Microphone cut off issue is resolved in a timely fashion now...Because I really want to use this phone as a phone...

I can honestly say that every device I have ever owned has seen these "issues."
Not these specific issues, but issues where folks question quality control. I have seen them going all the way back to the Droid 1 and the battery doors falling off.
Of the issues you have mentioned, I have seen the third. My wife's phone has a washed out screen compared to mine. I am on my second device, but only because Best Buy is full of retards and insisted upon replacing my phone when the sim card was bad.
I don't get the robotic voice. I don't get the choppiness. Issues I have seen, but have either subsided or disappeared completely:
1. Caller cannot be heard after some time into a call. They can hear me, but I cannot hear them at all. The line goes silent. This hasn't happened again in over three months.
2. Screeching when answering a call. This one still happens, but is very rare. More often I hear my ringtone lagging into the initial call pickup. I think that is likely a software or radio firmware issue.
3. Calls lost. This was due to my wife hanging up with her cheek. Chalk it up to poor design for those with hearing aides and big touchscreens.
4. 4G drops. Improved with 4.0.4, but still bad. Cause: I live on a fringe 4G area. In good 4G areas, I never drop. Verizon has been slowly expanding the area, so it is less common I drop now, or if I do, I transition to 3G quickly.

adrynalyne said:
I can honestly say that every device I have ever owned has seen these "issues."
Not these specific issues, but issues where folks question quality control. I have seen them going all the way back to the Droid 1 and the battery doors falling off.
Of the issues you have mentioned, I have seen the third. My wife's phone has a washed out screen compared to mine. I am on my second device, but only because Best Buy is full of retards and insisted upon replacing my phone when the sim card was bad.
I don't get the robotic voice. I don't get the choppiness. Issues I have seen, but have either subsided or disappeared completely:
1. Caller cannot be heard after some time into a call. They can hear me, but I cannot hear them at all. The line goes silent. This hasn't happened again in over three months.
2. Screeching when answering a call. This one still happens, but is very rare. More often I hear my ringtone lagging into the initial call pickup. I think that is likely a software or radio firmware issue.
3. Calls lost. This was due to my wife hanging up with her cheek. Chalk it up to poor design for those with hearing aides and big touchscreens.
4. 4G drops. Improved with 4.0.4, but still bad. Cause: I live on a fringe 4G area. In good 4G areas, I never drop. Verizon has been slowly expanding the area, so it is less common I drop now, or if I do, I transition to 3G quickly.
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I believe you have devices that are actually equal or better than the one I currently own (the one decided to settle with).
Again, I am glad you didn't have to see many of the issues!
I can assure you that at least the devices that we have now, are great
But I know many are not as well.

I think a lot of our issues stem from the early bird syndrome:
1. Still 1st gen LTE.
2. 1st gen 720p samoled screen.
3. 1st to receive ICS.
That is a whole lot of 1st gen stuff right there and we are getting a lot of worms

adrynalyne said:
I think a lot of our issues stem from the early bird syndrome:
1. Still 1st gen LTE.
2. 1st gen 720p samoled screen.
3. 1st to receive ICS.
That is a whole lot of 1st gen stuff right there and we are getting a lot of worms
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I agree with you
As a person who jumped in the boat on android with Droid Eris though...
Above all, the phone should work as a phone though
ICS and LTE and AMOLED is awesome when we actually have a device that does it well!
If not? it is so difficult to go through the motion of getting a replacement device actually, depending on who you get to talk to when you call 611

This device, despite its shortcomings has caused me to stop looking at other devices for quite some time. I will not be buying another device until Jellybean is released to devices.
To me, ICS is 6 months old. I am ready for something new By the time ICS becomes a real player in the overall scheme of Android, we will be on Jellybean. I just can't bring myself to look at other devices even if they are shipping with ICS knowing that.

I got mine (Verizon) on release day and my only issue was low external speaker volume but I have "equalizer" installed and the phone is perfect except....
There is one flaw that I didn't have from the factory, and that's the faded/discolored lower portion where the action bar is. When I look at movies with a lot of dark/black backgrounds when the screen goes into full screen I can still see where it would be, it's lighter.
I'm wondering if it can be returned under warranty for that??? Anyone???
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inktownlegend said:
I got mine (Verizon) on release day and my only issue was low external speaker volume but I have "equalizer" installed and the phone is perfect except....
There is one flaw that I didn't have from the factory, and that's the faded/discolored lower portion where the action bar is. When I look at movies with a lot of dark/black backgrounds when the screen goes into full screen I can still see where it would be, it's lighter.
I'm wondering if it can be returned under warranty for that??? Anyone???
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Please don't exchange your device. You seemed to have one of the more flawless devices. Even if you decide to get a return, it will be impossible to get a refund. And the exchange you will get which are all like new refurbished phones, will have whole lot of problems that you are not seeing with your current device

Personally, my experience has been flawless. I have nothing to complain about. I definitely won't be buying another phone until the next Nexus, at least....

Nothing to report here. Bought mine at a Verizon store in ... February I think.
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Well add me to the list of people who have the 4G LTE issues. My wife and I both got Gaxay Nexus phones from Amazon wireless and they both have the LTE radio drop out problem. It's terrible.
i just called Amazon and they are sending two brand new phones out.

LTE will drop if you are in a fringe area.

adrynalyne said:
LTE will drop if you are in a fringe area.
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Dear adrynalyne,
Please take a look at this screenshot I took.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24345#c64
Since you have not experienced this yourself, that will give you a great insight to what we face and/or faced with these faulty devices.
In a stationary position next to the San Francisco Downtown LTE tower,
the drop still happens every 3 minutes along with voice.

Damn.
Actually, double damn. I would kill for that LTE signal.

adrynalyne said:
Damn.
Actually, double damn. I would kill for that LTE signal.
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As long as we have devices that can hold on to this LTE signal, 4G LTE is truly awesome..
I am consistently getting 25 mbps / 15 mbps (down / upload) and about 32-35mbps down 15 mbps sometimes.
I am finally loving the GNex experience man, my friend.
what a night and day difference. My life was miserable when my other GNexus couldn't hold on to that signal.. and verizon kept telling me the update will magically solve this issue.
Apparently, I feel it's the hardware issue in the first place.

charlescom said:
As long as we have devices that can hold on to this LTE signal, 4G LTE is truly awesome..
I am consistently getting 25 mbps / 15 mbps (down / upload) and about 32-35mbps down 15 mbps sometimes.
I am finally loving the GNex experience man, my friend.
what a night and day difference. My life was miserable when my other GNexus couldn't hold on to that signal.. and verizon kept telling me the update will magically solve this issue.
Apparently, I feel it's the hardware issue in the first place.
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Is the working device revision 10?
The reason I ask is a friend of mine started researching the differences between rev 9 and rev 10 devices and found out that the LTE radios (internal hardware) are different.

adrynalyne said:
Is the working device revision 10?
The reason I ask is a friend of mine started researching the differences between rev 9 and rev 10 devices and found out that the LTE radios (internal hardware) are different.
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My previous devices were faulty they were rev 9, rev 10. Manufactured in 11/12, 11/11.
I can surely confirm both rev 9 and 10 had problems.
My working device is rev 9 I believe. Let me check and let you know if its rev 10.
I am using it to tether to use internet right now

Adr, I know you had a tb. How come the tb 4g radio is so much better?

TurbineTester said:
Well add me to the list of people who have the 4G LTE issues. My wife and I both got Gaxay Nexus phones from Amazon wireless and they both have the LTE radio drop out problem. It's terrible.
i just called Amazon and they are sending two brand new phones out.
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I got mine this past Thursday from Amazon and I'm getting the same exact issue. What number did you call to get Amazon to replace it?

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Adr, I know you had a tb. How come the tb 4g radio is so much better?
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Samsung isn't very good with choosing radio tech.

Don't believe the hype

Having owned the HTC One X since launch date in Thailand I have been to say the least unhappy with it. The main problems, are appalling call quality (sound), poor radio signal (WiFi frequently drops and 3G / HSDPA fails to kick in), terrible UK dictionary, quirky keyboard, horrendous battery life (6 - 7 hours on a good day). There is more but....
Anyway last night it slipped off the sofa on to the floor, and hey broken screen, all the HTC hype claims this is as good as indestructible. I've seen man drop tests and in washing machine, cars driving over it etc. and it coming out unscathed.
This is the worst device I have had in living memory. Today I will be taking it back to the dealer. Do I want a replacement? Frankly NO, but there again HTC can't get away with it so I will no doubt end up accepting a replacement then sell it immediately! What to get instead, that's the big question. The Galaxy Nexus I had before was a much better device in nearly all aspects, so if I can't see anything better then will probably get another Nexus.

richard20260 said:
Having owned the HTC One X since launch date in Thailand I have been to say the least unhappy with it. The main problems, are appalling call quality (sound), poor radio signal (WiFi frequently drops and 3G / HSDPA fails to kick in), terrible UK dictionary, quirky keyboard, horrendous battery life (6 - 7 hours on a good day). There is more but....
Anyway last night it slipped off the sofa on to the floor, and hey broken screen, all the HTC hype claims this is as good as indestructible. I've seen man drop tests and in washing machine, cars driving over it etc. and it coming out unscathed.
This is the worst device I have had in living memory. Today I will be taking it back to the dealer. Do I want a replacement? Frankly NO, but there again HTC can't get away with it so I will no doubt end up accepting a replacement then sell it immediately! What to get instead, that's the big question. The Galaxy Nexus I had before was a much better device in nearly all aspects, so if I can't see anything better then will probably get another Nexus.
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Whatever phone you've had, it doesn't sound like the HTC One X to me. Either that, or you've had a dodgy copy. Nothing but praise over here! That said - I won't be throwing my phone under a car any time soon...

I got mine on release day in thailand also.
Flawless device with a few software glitches but that's sense for you.
What carrier? I'm on one2go (AIS) and the service is great. Dtac and true not so much*
*Location dependent
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Don't believe the hype!
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These are my favorite posts. One person, based on their singular experiences, declares to the world that based on those experiences, anyone without the same issues or with a different opinion is obviously wrong. Nice.
While your opinion is certainly valid and you have a right to it, that makes it no more meaningful than anyone else's.
There were tons of issues posts when I ordered mine last Thursday. I've had it for a week now and couldn't be happier (although battery life still concerns me).

he may be a HTC One X hater, or a SGSII waiting for SGSIII user. hahaha.

So you "drop" your new toy and it breaks and it's HTC's fault, bla bla bla. You do know that water is wet, right?
Get a grip on reality please.
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Clearly, he is just a paid poster to blackmouth HTC. Nothing from what he said make sense.
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richard20260 said:
Having owned the HTC One X since launch date in Thailand I have been to say the least unhappy with it. The main problems, are appalling call quality (sound), poor radio signal (WiFi frequently drops and 3G / HSDPA fails to kick in), terrible UK dictionary, quirky keyboard, horrendous battery life (6 - 7 hours on a good day). There is more but....
Anyway last night it slipped off the sofa on to the floor, and hey broken screen, all the HTC hype claims this is as good as indestructible. I've seen man drop tests and in washing machine, cars driving over it etc. and it coming out unscathed.
This is the worst device I have had in living memory. Today I will be taking it back to the dealer. Do I want a replacement? Frankly NO, but there again HTC can't get away with it so I will no doubt end up accepting a replacement then sell it immediately! What to get instead, that's the big question. The Galaxy Nexus I had before was a much better device in nearly all aspects, so if I can't see anything better then will probably get another Nexus.
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I've had quite the opposite experience. I'm coming from an iPhone 4S and I still can't believe how rock solid this thing is. I've never used an unlocked device on AT&T before and it was good to go out of the box. I haven't put it in the washing machine yet though.

well, see yah
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Albert Poon said:
Clearly, he is just a paid poster to blackmouth HTC. Nothing from what he said make sense.
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Exactly.
He didn't report any build quality issues, just WiFi and reception which can be network dependant, especially since 3G was only introduced 10 months ago in Thailand.
I've lived in high rise buildings in Bangkok that have had really poor and sometimes no reception because of the tight packed nature of the city and the outer provinces of thailand like Phuket have had 3G only 6 months. Hell, my reception in my house now is one bar out of the five.
It's the network, not the phone. I go into town and its full.
People moan about phones being faulty but most often its the network that isn't up to pace, especially in a semi third world country.
Great phone, you're just another expat that's used to the comforts of your homeland and moan when things aren't up to what you're a custom to.
All seemed normal until you dropped it.
Fix it and talk to whomever your service provider is or change network.
Numbers can be moved between networks now.
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Sad you had such a terrible experience, and as some say, not everyone gets the same candy at the store...
On the contrary, I have mine since some time now and I can proudly say is the best HTC device I ever had!
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richard20260 said:
Having owned the HTC One X since launch date in Thailand I have been to say the least unhappy with it. The main problems, are appalling call quality (sound), poor radio signal (WiFi frequently drops and 3G / HSDPA fails to kick in), terrible UK dictionary, quirky keyboard, horrendous battery life (6 - 7 hours on a good day). There is more but....
Anyway last night it slipped off the sofa on to the floor, and hey broken screen, all the HTC hype claims this is as good as indestructible. I've seen man drop tests and in washing machine, cars driving over it etc. and it coming out unscathed.
This is the worst device I have had in living memory. Today I will be taking it back to the dealer. Do I want a replacement? Frankly NO, but there again HTC can't get away with it so I will no doubt end up accepting a replacement then sell it immediately! What to get instead, that's the big question. The Galaxy Nexus I had before was a much better device in nearly all aspects, so if I can't see anything better then will probably get another Nexus.
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Hmm... HTC brand (or "internet marketing") are so successful, that even sharing an awful use experience becomes a sin. If anyone says any devices/roms/kernels/etc. are perfect, I'd say it's all hypocrap.

I just got my one x this morning and I'm loving it. My screen had a yellowish tint to it but it either went away with use or I got used to it. Either way its a non issue for me. I also have no connection issues on att in the USA and have no build quality issues.
Great phone and happy to be along for the ride with our dev community
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LordLugard said:
So you "drop" your new toy and it breaks and it's HTC's fault, bla bla bla. You do know that water is wet, right?
Get a grip on reality please.
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Lol get a "grip" on reality
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Thanks for adding "personal opinion" to your title OP. Everyone here is certainly entitled to one.
Someone on the GN forum was saying the One X is a piece of crap because it failed the 4' drop on its face.
The grass isn't always greener on the other side. (At 3:40)

I think this thread should be closed,.
I mean if you had such a bad unit doesn't mean you have to right to deem all of the units crap.
Seem like you're a flamer or like someone said, paid to badmouth the 1X
Go find yourself a lady boy or something and shutup!

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HTC's Track Record for Signal Strength?

I generally don't make new threads and have already pre-ordered the phone but I'm curious because I've never owned an HTC. What is HTC's track record for signal strength? It's one of the things reviewers consistently omit every year. I make a few trips to the boonies yearly and wonder how well my signal will hold up. I'd love to build enough awareness on this subject that eventually reviewers pick it up. So those of you who have the HTC 10 or have history with HTC, what is your experience?

HTC has typically had lower signal strength than say a Samsung of equal caliber. Other forums dedicated to certain carriers have tested the signal from multiple HTC products and generally have always been a few dB worse than others.
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mbaseball3 said:
HTC has typically had lower signal strength than say a Samsung of equal caliber. Other forums dedicated to certain carriers have tested the signal from multiple HTC products and generally have always been a few dB worse than others.
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I disagree. IME, HTC has been better than Samsung, and that's going back to the Windows Mobile days on HTC and the original S1 (multiple variants, owned also 3, 5, and note 2. Wife now has 7e).
If I had to rate them, I'd say Moto > HTC > Samsung.
Ymmv of course - just my experience using a lot of all these phones. It's not that Sammy is bad, I've just found the others better.
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I too gotta disagree. I could dig up facts but fairly sure I've seen that HTC doesn't hold up well with signal strength. I've had nothing but HTC regardless of little quirks like signal. My wife is nothing but a Samsung fan but no matter where we are she always has better signal strength and holds LTE longer than any of my HTC phones. It's a sucky thing but form over function for me. HTC all the way.
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I to would rate them Moto->HTC->Samsung. The problem with samsungs, is they're know to just straight up fail. I remember my sister sending hers in like 5 times to get fixed. And they kept replacing other things, or nothing at all. It was a big pain in the arse.

I will be interested to see how the 10 fares with signal. I've have a couple of HTC's and not really had any problem. I mean sure, someplace has less bars etc. But if I can get the job done, I guess I don't care. Nothing is more frustrating than your phone showing full bars, and it takes forever to download and open a simple document.