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Verizon Reps didn't give me the Thumbs up

So, I walked into 2 Verizon stores over the last two days. I wanted to use one of my upgrades to go from my Rezound to the Nexus. I spoke to two different reps and both told me they were not a fan of the phone. Design wise its nice and ICS is cool, but they said there are some problems with the reception and they're seeing more exchanges than they'd like.
I have no problems with my phone. I like it, but I love the larger screen and that's its lighter.
Do any of you wish you waited a bit before buying this phone (because Verizon already pushed this phone back so far) to see if an update cleared any of the issues you guys are having? All phones have their bugs, but I hate that the bootloader is locked and I can't go custom crazy like I wanted to.

Bootloader is very easily unlocked and you can do any mods you want.
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One thing I've learned from reading many mobile phone forums, the Vz sales people often know less than the informed reader. I went thru 4 Bionics and after having issues even after the OTA I packed up all my stuff and returned it for the Nexus.
I don't wish I waited. I love the idea of owning a Google feature phone knowing I'll always have the latest updates and they'll continue to provide updates for a long time coming.
The bootloader is super easy to unlock on this phone and it's equally simple to root. I never rooted my Bionic b/c I ways waiting to see if I ever got a stable phone before I monkeyed with it. The Nexus I rooted after 5 days. I think this phone is going to receive a lot of developer attention because it's so easy to work on. I don't think the radio is as strong as what Moto uses, but I've never had any reception issues.

sebastianraven said:
So, I walked into 2 Verizon stores over the last two days. I wanted to use one of my upgrades to go from my Rezound to the Nexus. I spoke to two different reps and both told me they were not a fan of the phone. Design wise its nice and ICS is cool, but they said there are some problems with the reception and they're seeing more exchanges than they'd like.
I have no problems with my phone. I like it, but I love the larger screen and that's its lighter.
Do any of you wish you waited a bit before buying this phone (because Verizon already pushed this phone back so far) to see if an update cleared any of the issues you guys are having? All phones have their bugs, but I hate that the bootloader is locked and I can't go custom crazy like I wanted to.
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Im surprised they didnt try to get you to buy the iPhone, like most ATT and VZW sheeps do.
They (and the people returning the phones), apparently do not know that the signal bug is a bug and will be fixed soon.
Get the SGN, you wont regret it

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Im surprised they didnt try to get you to buy the iPhone, like most ATT and VZW sheeps do.
They (and the people returning the phones), apparently do not know that the signal bug is a bug and will be fixed soon.
Get the SGN, you wont regret it
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So by "fixed soon" you mean the GNex is going to show you more bars for the same signal it currently gets? In my area, that just means I'll show some signal and not have any data network. I've owned several VZW phones and have never had dropped calls at my house like with the GNex. My advice - the GNex is the best phone on the market *if you get signal with it* end of story. If you don't (like me), it's just an expensive paperweight with a pretty screen and "faster updates." BFD if I can't make or receive calls with it out of my home. So anyway, my actual advice is to try the GNex first. If you get signal where you live/work/play, by all means enjoy an awesome phone. If not, return it for something with a better antenna.
Unless Samsung personally delivers a migrant worker to my house to install a newer, better antenna in my device, I don't think any software fix is going to help me (and yes, I've flashed the newest radios to no avail).
Sucks, and I don't want to get rid of it but I think I'm out of options.
Todd

I wouldn't put too much faith in the store employees. Most are not that informed.
It's a good phone, certain aspects may not be as good but the pluses outweigh the negatives.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

I had a "temp" rezound for a week. Loved the phone. In fact I recommended it to a few "semi-techie" (non flashing) co-workers. We're IT guys and service hotels. We climb ladders and run cables. So a heavy-duty phone is nice. The Rezound felt like a heavy duty phone that the guys like. Signal and battery was good.
For me, I prefer the Nexus. I have the extended battery which doesn't add much but every little bit helps on android phones. Both last about the same time with battery life. The Rezound was my temp phone, so I really wasn't interested in setting it up. Just used it barely for work calls. The Nexus, I can't put down. Surfing, emails, games, customization, etc. Both last about 15+ hours with a few hours at night surfing XDA. Pretty impressed.
Signal (just going by bars) was "better" with the Rezound. We know now that Verizon beefs up their signal bars ala iPhone style. Verizon phones typically show 3-4 bars where the Nexus will show 0-1. Both still have the same -db levels thus both getting the same service, but the Nexus is showing TRUE signals bars. Verizon is supposedly working on a patch to increase the number of bars per -db. It's a visual issue. The latest Verizon radio (not public yet) fixes lots of the 3G/4G hand-offs and works much better. Battery life has also greatly improved with the, currently unreleased, 4.0.3 + New Radio/Baseband.
I do disable LTE because I get 2-4mb 3G in my area, which is plenty for syncing emails and facebook type stuff. I don't need a 60+Mbps LTE cell connection all day.
After some pretty heavy usage today at work (SMS, surfing, games , emails, xda), from 8am-2pm I have 75% battery left on the Nexus. 25% in 6 hours = 24 hours battery life

I wouldn't listen to anything a rep says. As far as reception, did a test from my device and posted it on my blog. There is nothing wrong with the reception on the phone. If your device does have a legitimate issue, you need to exchange it.
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My GNex consistenly sits 10-20 db lower than my D2 sitting next to each other on the counter. Admittedly I live in an "outlier" area as far as Verizon's network goes, but if my D2 can manage an average of 80 db, why can my Nexus only muster between 100 and 110 most of the time? I've never seen it go below 93 at my house, where I've seen my D2 get as low as 65 dB. Again, new radios don't help for me. To me it just seems like the Samsung antenna is not as sensitive as in the motorola, so to say there are "no reception issues" simply because you may not experience them is patently false. I've been to three VZW stores now and all three of them said swapping out for a new Nexus is doable, but will not fix the issue because of Samsung's crappy antennas. At least two of the people I spoke with were Nexus owners, one owns a Razr, for whatever that's worth.

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I spoke to two different reps.
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phone store reps and apple 'geniuses' are derps. they are just about as knowledgeable about technical stuff as you and i are about cthulu. ive had a genius tell me that my ipod would have difficulty connecting to n-networks if i was an lte area... its an ipod... it doesnt give a **** about lte. similarly verizon reps have told me that the droid incredible 1 and 2 have the same hardware with a different case.
most people on xda are actually highly knowledgeable and i would trust opinions out here over any vzw derp.

At my local store the Nexus is all but hidden in the stock room. It's on display but in the group of old phones across the room from the iphones and RAZR. I asked the guy and he admitted to not knowing much about the phone but that they are being pumped by management to push the razr and that xyboard tablet. It's obvious verizon corporate would rather not push unlocked phones but imo carried the nexus to snag the root community.
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That's funny. At my local vzw store they don't keep a nexus out on the display. The sign and mount for it are out, but you have to go to the service desk and stand in front of them after being blessed with the opportunity to hold it briefly. All other available models are out in multiple locations for customers to play with.
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I went from the TBolt -> Rezound -> Nexus so hopefully I can offer some insight ;-)
TBolt reception wasn't an issue for me in general. At work the cafeteria is in the basement of our building and I always saw 4G with an occasional drop to 3g. The Nexus occasionally see's signal, but I still prefer the Nexus and having a Google experience device.
Will it be fixed? I hope so.
Could it be software related? Potentially, as much as people want to argue we just don't know for sure. The Nexus S 4G was plagued with performance issues when it was released and they were fixed it with a software update. (note that it wasn't a reception issue)
Some phones have better antenna's than others, that's the simple truth. I've seen excellent reception at times and crappy receptions at other times.
The Rezound I had was a good phone, but I felt the need to tinker with it to get rid of bloatware, tweak performance, etc...I don't feel that need on the Nexus. I have pros and cons for each phone but in the end there are intangibles about the Nexus that I enjoy more. FYI, my second Rezound had great battery life but in all honesty it matches my Nexus. I've hit 12-18 hours every day this week, and it's been a normal work week for me. There's no WiFi for me to connect to from 6:30am until 6:00pm, I'm on 4g the entire time and streaming music for 1-2 hours a day. I don't had a ton of screen on time at the end of the day 1 1/2 to 2 hours.
If you stick with your Rezound you'll have ICS in a few months more than likely, and it does have many of the cool features already built in like the screenshot capability. I hope you are ok with S-On because you can't assume that it will ever be unlocked. Odds are that eventually it will, but until it happens you have to determine your level of satisfaction with it as the phone stands now.
Good luck in your decision.

100% happy with mine. Hands down love this unlocked, rooted, custom rom, OC kernel, blazing fast phone

Asking for your local VZW store's reps' opinions is like asking a Genius at an Apple store, I wouldn't trust their "expertise" about much more than flipping burgers
Unlock your bootloader and enjoy your amazing phone sir.

T-Keith said:
I wouldn't put too much faith in the store employees. Most are not that informed.
It's a good phone, certain aspects may not be as good but the pluses outweigh the negatives.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App
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They might not know everything, but they should have a grasp on what phones are getting returned/exchanged, which probably eats at their commision.
The lady that helped me with a tbolt accessory tonight had the nexus and liked it. Told her I couldn't wait and got the rezound, and she said that was a good phone too.
I agree with others that verizon has its own agenda and is pushing moto products over superior htc and samsung devices...
player911 said:
I had a "temp" rezound for a week. Loved the phone. In fact I recommended it to a few "semi-techie" (non flashing) co-workers. We're IT guys and service hotels. We climb ladders and run cables. So a heavy-duty phone is nice. The Rezound felt like a heavy duty phone that the guys like. Signal and battery was good.
For me, I prefer the Nexus. I have the extended battery which doesn't add much but every little bit helps on android phones. Both last about the same time with battery life. The Rezound was my temp phone, so I really wasn't interested in setting it up. Just used it barely for work calls. The Nexus, I can't put down. Surfing, emails, games, customization, etc. Both last about 15+ hours with a few hours at night surfing XDA. Pretty impressed.
Signal (just going by bars) was "better" with the Rezound. We know now that Verizon beefs up their signal bars ala iPhone style. Verizon phones typically show 3-4 bars where the Nexus will show 0-1. Both still have the same -db levels thus both getting the same service, but the Nexus is showing TRUE signals bars. Verizon is supposedly working on a patch to increase the number of bars per -db. It's a visual issue. The latest Verizon radio (not public yet) fixes lots of the 3G/4G hand-offs and works much better. Battery life has also greatly improved with the, currently unreleased, 4.0.3 + New Radio/Baseband.
I do disable LTE because I get 2-4mb 3G in my area, which is plenty for syncing emails and facebook type stuff. I don't need a 60+Mbps LTE cell connection all day.
After some pretty heavy usage today at work (SMS, surfing, games , emails, xda), from 8am-2pm I have 75% battery left on the Nexus. 25% in 6 hours = 24 hours battery life
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How does this explain most people seeing a 20db difference from the nexus (or charge) and any other 4g device? Seems to me, the signal bar indicator isn't necessarily the problem.
I know on my rezound, I will show no bars of 4g and still have a connection (usually around -100). With 4 bars I'm usually -75 or so.

nrfitchett4 said:
They might not know everything, but they should have a grasp on what phones are getting returned/exchanged, which probably eats at their commision.
The lady that helped me with a tbolt accessory tonight had the nexus and liked it. Told her I couldn't wait and got the rezound, and she said that was a good phone too.
I agree with others that verizon has its own agenda and is pushing moto products over superior htc and samsung devices...
How does this explain most people seeing a 20db difference from the nexus (or charge) and any other 4g device? Seems to me, the signal bar indicator isn't necessarily the problem.
I know on my rezound, I will show no bars of 4g and still have a connection (usually around -100). With 4 bars I'm usually -75 or so.
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I currently have a nexus and love the phone, hate the reception. I can't get signal where my droidx could. I pray they can fix it before 1/15 or I will have to return it.
The rezound only displays 3G signal not 4G, try switching to cdma and you see that the DBs remain the same. Not sure why that is but I have spent a lot of time considering this as a alternate phone and there is now way to tell what the DB level is of 4G from the status menu.

With light use today. I'm at 61% at 11pm off a charge from 9am. 9am-11pm.
That's awesome. With light use my Rezound would still be about dead at 11-midnight.
Light use = several (4-5) quick phone calls. Texting. Push Gmail/exchange. Twitter/Facebook. Wordfued. XDA.
4.0.3 CM9 Lang w/ latest LTE radio/baseband.
They can always pump more power to the radio antenna to get better signal but at the loss of battery life.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

New guy here coming from Evo4g... Few questions.

Hey guys,
I finally made it over to the Nexus from Sprint. I did it thru amazon and saved 200 bucks... its a no brainer. None the less, I have a few questions about the Nexus Forums.
I see there is a section for CDMA development, but when I have a general question about the nexus, it would pertain to both the CDMA and non-CDMA models right? As in the phones are the same, minus the type of radio they use? So say I want a screen protector, it would work for both models and not just Verizons model.
Im going to get an extended battery, the Verizon one seems to be where its at, no? I didnt see it on their website, whats the price? Does the ebay TPU cases work with the extended batteries?
I now know about the signal issues, just to clarify, if I have a "bad" one the signal will drop out even in a good solid 4g area right? My fiance and I just went to verizon, and she went with the razr. So I would be able to use her phone as a comparison for what speeds I "should" be getting.
Anything else to look out for?
Cant wait fellas...

Screen protectors will work for both phones.
The extended batteries are specific. For the LTE version the extended battery is a must IMO.
A lot of TPU cases such as the androidified ones are compatible with the cdma extended battery.
Never had signal issues, it will depend on your area. Also, the update coming soon is rumored to address this with a new radio
Congrats on the new phone.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

Thanks. I picked up screen protectors, Diztronics TPU and Im trying to find the 25 dollar verizon battery deal. I think its been over for a bit now..

Amazon has the battery or $35. It was $28 the other day...I think Verizon is sold out.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-ETC-I515BBGSTA-Verizon-Extended-Battery/dp/B006NYP94O/ref=pd_cp_cps_0
For questions, the general forum has GSM and CDMA together as most things pertain to both devices. The only separated section is development.
If your phone is keeping a 4G signal and you are surfing the web without it constantly losing signal then coming back on your phone should be fine. If your wife's Razr has a better signal or might pick up 4G in area's where you cannot, that is just the phone and not a defect.

mroneeyedboh said:
Thanks. I picked up screen protectors, Diztronics TPU and Im trying to find the 25 dollar verizon battery deal. I think its been over for a bit now..
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If you can handle the *slight* inconvenience, a solution I'm currently using is actually two standard OEM batteries. For $29.99 you can actually get the standard battery, external charger, and Y-Cable to charge both the battery and your phone at the same time. I chose this option over the extended battery because from what I've read the extended doesn't add that much juice, plus I wanted to continue to use my regular accessories. So basically now when I run out of juice on one battery, I pop the other in and let the other charge. It's actually been really convenient because it only takes roughly 2-3 hours to charge to extra battery, and the fastest I've drained my phone was around 4-5 hours.
Welcome to the Galaxy Nexus and Verizon!
EDIT: Here's a link to the product I'm talking about. It's $39.99 online, but you can get it for $29.99 in store.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...ryDetails&archetypeId=12922&accessoryId=49880

[email protected] said:
Amazon has the battery or $35. It was $28 the other day...I think Verizon is sold out.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-ETC-I515BBGSTA-Verizon-Extended-Battery/dp/B006NYP94O/ref=pd_cp_cps_0
For questions, the general forum has GSM and CDMA together as most things pertain to both devices. The only separated section is development.
If your phone is keeping a 4G signal and you are surfing the web without it constantly losing signal then coming back on your phone should be fine. If your wife's Razr has a better signal or might pick up 4G in area's where you cannot, that is just the phone and not a defect.
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hey man, see I made the switch haha... ( no more this or that threads from me )
Thanks man.

damn I thik you guys set me up haha. Ive been reading page after page here in the forum and it seems like there is more and more guys having issues with the muting, loss call issues etc etc. WTF haha. NOT good. Too bad I made the switch today. It seems like its not even worth the hassle ( with the gnex )

mroneeyedboh said:
damn I thik you guys set me up haha. Ive been reading page after page here in the forum and it seems like there is more and more guys having issues with the muting, loss call issues etc etc. WTF haha. NOT good. Too bad I made the switch today. It seems like its not even worth the hassle ( with the gnex )
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Believe me, most of us love our devices. Even I do, despite having to have my screen fixed for discoloration and banding issues. But people are more likely to post issues than compliments. Not to say there aren't issues, or that they are necessarily isolated. But I think with time you'll realize you made a great choice, especially if you keep up with the dev community.

True, dont get me wrong I hate sense, I dont use it. But if I cant use the phone because the data drops and the phone calls dont stay connected WTF? lol sure I should have realized that before but soooo many people pushed the GNEX. Yeah very easily persuaded. I'll see how it pans out.

To be honest I don't have issue with data service or any of that. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones. I came from sprint also so maybe I just feel spoiled from the super fast data speeds I get now compared to sprint. I used to roam internationally with sprint at my house and now I get good 4g service at home. I didn't even have 4g from sprint where I live. But my gnex is really good to me.
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mroneeyedboh said:
True, dont get me wrong I hate sense, I dont use it. But if I cant use the phone because the data drops and the phone calls dont stay connected WTF? lol sure I should have realized that before but soooo many people pushed the GNEX. Yeah very easily persuaded. I'll see how it pans out.
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I believe Amazon gives you 30 days for an exchange. That is more then enough time to figure out if the device works for you or not. Plus I wouldn't be surprised if we see an update within the next 30 days.
Oh, I haven't had a dropped call yet so not sure about that one either. My defective Gnex didn't even drop a call.

Thanks eman. Yeah amazon is 30 days on the replacement. Now let me ask you this. say the phone I get tomorrow is bad, I'll replace it say in 7 days. When the next one comes do I have around 23 days left, or does the 30 days start again? And Im talking about the replacement phone, say its bad do I get another 30 days for that one too?

mroneeyedboh said:
Thanks eman. Yeah amazon is 30 days on the replacement. Now let me ask you this. say the phone I get tomorrow is bad, I'll replace it say in 7 days. When the next one comes do I have around 23 days left, or does the 30 days start again? And Im talking about the replacement phone, say its bad do I get another 30 days for that one too?
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lol, if you go through that many phones in 30 days, you might want to go with something else...
When I received my replacement I actually asked this same question. They told me I had 30 days from the date of the replacement. If I were you I would call Amazon and just confirm that with them. I wasn't worried because I still had a lot of time within my first 30 days anyway.
If my 2nd phone would have been bad, not sure what I would have done as no other phone on Verizon really interested me.

mroneeyedboh said:
damn I thik you guys set me up haha. Ive been reading page after page here in the forum and it seems like there is more and more guys having issues with the muting, loss call issues etc etc. WTF haha. NOT good. Too bad I made the switch today. It seems like its not even worth the hassle ( with the gnex )
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In my opinion and experience on forums, you will generally hear more people stating issues than those praising their phone. You will also have those that are NEVER satisfied. I would take what you read on a forum with a grain of salt and simply try what works best for you and make your own determination. Opinions on any device, or any tech, will vary depending upon location (with regards to signal), the person, their past and present expereinces, and so on.
That said, I read a lot throughout various forums of people complaining about their signal compared to the Thunderbolt and how the TB carried a better signal than the GNex. Im my experience, my GNEX would show fewer bars but have higher UL/DL speeds and a far better signal in general. For example, where my TB would show 4 bars 3G, my GNEX would show 1 bar 3g. However, my UL/DL speeds on my Genx were far better. You cant really compare signal when dealing with two seperate manufacturers radios either, and Im sure most will say that either im lying about my speeds or lucky. Im in the DC area if that matters. Im just stating my experience.
I will say that while I dont have dropped calls with the Nexus, I do at times have issues connecting to a call after hanging up on another call. This was never an issue on any other phone I had.
That said, while there are some issues I have personally with the phone at times, the pros outweight the cons to me. I love this phone and to me, its the best I've owned.
Also, my wife and I came from Sprint, her a little later than me. I had the Evo, went to the Thunderbolt. I also had the Razor and Rezound for about a week and flipped them while keeping my Nexus. My biggest dissapointment with this phone between all Ive owned is the speaker, but its not a huge deal to me anymore...I use a jambox for that now.

Cool bro I'm in Pasadena MD and work in DC. So hopefully I wont have any issues.

Don't believe the hype

Having owned the HTC One X since launch date in Thailand I have been to say the least unhappy with it. The main problems, are appalling call quality (sound), poor radio signal (WiFi frequently drops and 3G / HSDPA fails to kick in), terrible UK dictionary, quirky keyboard, horrendous battery life (6 - 7 hours on a good day). There is more but....
Anyway last night it slipped off the sofa on to the floor, and hey broken screen, all the HTC hype claims this is as good as indestructible. I've seen man drop tests and in washing machine, cars driving over it etc. and it coming out unscathed.
This is the worst device I have had in living memory. Today I will be taking it back to the dealer. Do I want a replacement? Frankly NO, but there again HTC can't get away with it so I will no doubt end up accepting a replacement then sell it immediately! What to get instead, that's the big question. The Galaxy Nexus I had before was a much better device in nearly all aspects, so if I can't see anything better then will probably get another Nexus.

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Having owned the HTC One X since launch date in Thailand I have been to say the least unhappy with it. The main problems, are appalling call quality (sound), poor radio signal (WiFi frequently drops and 3G / HSDPA fails to kick in), terrible UK dictionary, quirky keyboard, horrendous battery life (6 - 7 hours on a good day). There is more but....
Anyway last night it slipped off the sofa on to the floor, and hey broken screen, all the HTC hype claims this is as good as indestructible. I've seen man drop tests and in washing machine, cars driving over it etc. and it coming out unscathed.
This is the worst device I have had in living memory. Today I will be taking it back to the dealer. Do I want a replacement? Frankly NO, but there again HTC can't get away with it so I will no doubt end up accepting a replacement then sell it immediately! What to get instead, that's the big question. The Galaxy Nexus I had before was a much better device in nearly all aspects, so if I can't see anything better then will probably get another Nexus.
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Whatever phone you've had, it doesn't sound like the HTC One X to me. Either that, or you've had a dodgy copy. Nothing but praise over here! That said - I won't be throwing my phone under a car any time soon...

I got mine on release day in thailand also.
Flawless device with a few software glitches but that's sense for you.
What carrier? I'm on one2go (AIS) and the service is great. Dtac and true not so much*
*Location dependent
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richard20260 said:
Don't believe the hype!
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These are my favorite posts. One person, based on their singular experiences, declares to the world that based on those experiences, anyone without the same issues or with a different opinion is obviously wrong. Nice.
While your opinion is certainly valid and you have a right to it, that makes it no more meaningful than anyone else's.
There were tons of issues posts when I ordered mine last Thursday. I've had it for a week now and couldn't be happier (although battery life still concerns me).

he may be a HTC One X hater, or a SGSII waiting for SGSIII user. hahaha.

So you "drop" your new toy and it breaks and it's HTC's fault, bla bla bla. You do know that water is wet, right?
Get a grip on reality please.
Sent from my SPH-D710

Clearly, he is just a paid poster to blackmouth HTC. Nothing from what he said make sense.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

richard20260 said:
Having owned the HTC One X since launch date in Thailand I have been to say the least unhappy with it. The main problems, are appalling call quality (sound), poor radio signal (WiFi frequently drops and 3G / HSDPA fails to kick in), terrible UK dictionary, quirky keyboard, horrendous battery life (6 - 7 hours on a good day). There is more but....
Anyway last night it slipped off the sofa on to the floor, and hey broken screen, all the HTC hype claims this is as good as indestructible. I've seen man drop tests and in washing machine, cars driving over it etc. and it coming out unscathed.
This is the worst device I have had in living memory. Today I will be taking it back to the dealer. Do I want a replacement? Frankly NO, but there again HTC can't get away with it so I will no doubt end up accepting a replacement then sell it immediately! What to get instead, that's the big question. The Galaxy Nexus I had before was a much better device in nearly all aspects, so if I can't see anything better then will probably get another Nexus.
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I've had quite the opposite experience. I'm coming from an iPhone 4S and I still can't believe how rock solid this thing is. I've never used an unlocked device on AT&T before and it was good to go out of the box. I haven't put it in the washing machine yet though.

well, see yah
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Albert Poon said:
Clearly, he is just a paid poster to blackmouth HTC. Nothing from what he said make sense.
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Exactly.
He didn't report any build quality issues, just WiFi and reception which can be network dependant, especially since 3G was only introduced 10 months ago in Thailand.
I've lived in high rise buildings in Bangkok that have had really poor and sometimes no reception because of the tight packed nature of the city and the outer provinces of thailand like Phuket have had 3G only 6 months. Hell, my reception in my house now is one bar out of the five.
It's the network, not the phone. I go into town and its full.
People moan about phones being faulty but most often its the network that isn't up to pace, especially in a semi third world country.
Great phone, you're just another expat that's used to the comforts of your homeland and moan when things aren't up to what you're a custom to.
All seemed normal until you dropped it.
Fix it and talk to whomever your service provider is or change network.
Numbers can be moved between networks now.
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Sad you had such a terrible experience, and as some say, not everyone gets the same candy at the store...
On the contrary, I have mine since some time now and I can proudly say is the best HTC device I ever had!
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@All: Let´s try to keep this discussion in peace and with respect please
richard20260 said:
Having owned the HTC One X since launch date in Thailand I have been to say the least unhappy with it. The main problems, are appalling call quality (sound), poor radio signal (WiFi frequently drops and 3G / HSDPA fails to kick in), terrible UK dictionary, quirky keyboard, horrendous battery life (6 - 7 hours on a good day). There is more but....
Anyway last night it slipped off the sofa on to the floor, and hey broken screen, all the HTC hype claims this is as good as indestructible. I've seen man drop tests and in washing machine, cars driving over it etc. and it coming out unscathed.
This is the worst device I have had in living memory. Today I will be taking it back to the dealer. Do I want a replacement? Frankly NO, but there again HTC can't get away with it so I will no doubt end up accepting a replacement then sell it immediately! What to get instead, that's the big question. The Galaxy Nexus I had before was a much better device in nearly all aspects, so if I can't see anything better then will probably get another Nexus.
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Hmm... HTC brand (or "internet marketing") are so successful, that even sharing an awful use experience becomes a sin. If anyone says any devices/roms/kernels/etc. are perfect, I'd say it's all hypocrap.

I just got my one x this morning and I'm loving it. My screen had a yellowish tint to it but it either went away with use or I got used to it. Either way its a non issue for me. I also have no connection issues on att in the USA and have no build quality issues.
Great phone and happy to be along for the ride with our dev community
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LordLugard said:
So you "drop" your new toy and it breaks and it's HTC's fault, bla bla bla. You do know that water is wet, right?
Get a grip on reality please.
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Lol get a "grip" on reality
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Thanks for adding "personal opinion" to your title OP. Everyone here is certainly entitled to one.
Someone on the GN forum was saying the One X is a piece of crap because it failed the 4' drop on its face.
The grass isn't always greener on the other side. (At 3:40)

I think this thread should be closed,.
I mean if you had such a bad unit doesn't mean you have to right to deem all of the units crap.
Seem like you're a flamer or like someone said, paid to badmouth the 1X
Go find yourself a lady boy or something and shutup!

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This thread is going nowhere

[REF] [INFO] Why You Want (or Don't Want) a Verizon Galaxy Nexus.

Here's my take on the situation. I'm a gadget lover, definitely the biggest geek I know by far, and don't consider myself too biased. I'm typing this on my iPad (rockin the first gen and still love it) while i have my GNex (which I also love with a scary passion) right beside me. And it could have just as easily been the other way around, I don't mind writing long winded messages with the GNex. So with that, take my opinion as you will.
The Galaxy Nexus has had a rocky start, there's no denying that. If you are going to rely on Verizon and Google alone for support with this phone, you better have your fingers crossed really tight for a handset with no issues. That's very unlikely seeing as how the vast majority of the problems lie within Verizon's not-so-good build of ICS. There's also a large number of handsets with hardware screen issues (see Galaxy Nexus Screen - What's Normal, What's Not. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1394358) I do currently have banding and color problems at low brightness myself that I'm none too happy about, and will probably be exchanging phones soon because of it (for another GNex of course). So that also needs to be taken into consideration (I guess I'm writing a buyers guide now?). Samsung dropped the ball on that one. Now, there are 2 sides to the overall argument on all this, and I happen to agree with both of them.
On the one hand, yes, Verizon and Google should do their part in keeping up with the Nexus brand and make sure that the LTE handset works just as good as its global GSM twin. This has not happened. For the most part, this is Verizon's problem because the coding that needs to be in place for their 4G LTE radios is all handled secretly by Verizon themselves. Google is in control 100% when it comes to the GSM Galaxy Nexus updates, but they only hand over a partial build to Verizon, who then fill in the phone-y bits themselves. The fact that only one official update has rolled out so far is unacceptable. The average user who was sold on the latest and greatest is still stuck behind a wall of bugs nearly 6 months later. Tarnish doesn't begin to describe what this act of laziness does to the Nexus Name (Although the Galaxy name is kinda used to it).
On the other hand, the percentage of ICS users in the Android pool is about 5%. It's really hard to justify putting most of your tech teams to work on an update for a device that makes up only a fraction of that 5%. Instead Verizon and Google are mostly hard at work making sure the other 95% of their customers are continuing to get at least satisfactory service, while also trying to get those devices with the green light for an ICS upgrade that are already in millions of pockets geared up and ready to receive those updates before its too late and becomes a lost cause. Another point to this argument is that Big Red and the Googs know all about rooting and the vast underground community supporting it. They're not stupid. Google has sold this and all Nexus phones as a developer phone. They knew that our devs in the underground community could fix more bugs with this unlocked device and AOSP builds (read Android A to Z: What is the AOSP? http://m.androidcentral.com/android-z-what-aosp) then they could ever hope to push out together through official OTA updates. It's the locked down (and basically un rootable, and therefore un fix-it-yourself-by-simply-flashing-a-new-rom-able) handsets from the last generations that really need the attention from Verizon, since they really are the only ones who can fix it.
So if you're someone who loves to tinker around with devices and you turn a blind eye to warnings about voiding those seemingly useless warranties, then the Galaxy Nexus is deffinately a great bet, seeing as how the development community for this thing is bigger than any other Android device yet (at least I'm pretty sure of that one, damn near close and very surprising if not) and isn't likely to go anywhere soon.
But if you're someone who just wants their phone to work and not have to hassle with fixing it yourself (which is absolutely understandable, and in a perfect world we shouldn't have to), then you might want to seek other options as of this writing (Verizon could very well roll out a 4.0.5 update tomorrow fixing everything, making all of what I just said pointless, but I doubt it).
You stand on the side of "I'll Figure This Thing Out And Even Make It Better": You'll most likely love the Galaxy Nexus.
You stand on the side of "Making Sure Your Phone Works Right Is Your Problem, Verizon. Not Mine": You'll most likely be left with a bad taste in your mouth from the beloved/despised GNex.
Be sure to check out my write up on my solution for all your Screen Protection worries on any device! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1645709

neccoguy21 said:
You stand on the side of "I'll Figure This Thing Out And Even Make It Better": You'll most likely love the Galaxy Nexus.
You stand on the side of "Making Sure Your Phone Works Right Is Your Problem, Verizon. Not Mine": You'll most likely be left with a bad taste in your mouth from the beloved/despised GNex.
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Too long to read, so I think that probably sums up your whole book.

Show me a ROM that fixes the 4G radio causing all radios to reboot and dropping all data and voice...
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SnrSuave said:
Show me a ROM that fixes the 4G radio causing all radios to reboot and dropping all data and voice...
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if it ain't broken, there's no need to fix it and for most of us 4g isn't broken

I find it weird that some people have no issues with 4g, and others have give through 5-6 phones trying to get one that doesn't drop signal. Either people that have no problem don't realize its happening to them, or Samsung has quite a few phones at there with broken radios...
Anyway... I was just making a comment that not all issues can be fixed by flashing a ROM...
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SnrSuave said:
I find it weird that some people have no issues with 4g, and others have give through 5-6 phones trying to get one that doesn't drop signal. Either people that have no problem don't realize its happening to them, or Samsung has quite a few phones at there with broken radios...
Anyway... I was just making a comment that not all issues can be fixed by flashing a ROM...
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Very true. But I believe the issue with 4G LTE radios is the same across the board. My mom went through a pair of the newest LG Spectrum phones (one for each of her 2 lines) that had that problem, but she didn't even want to replace those because their hot spots wouldn't work either (apparently even THE Verizon Techs at headquarters couldn't get the hot spots to work, and LG basically told Verizon and my mom both 'sorry, not our problem'. Does anyone have any more insight into this?) So she went with a pair of Bionics. They too had issues with 4G. She's now on her 3rd and 4th Bionic, with sketchy success. It's kind of a Verizon curse. It's almost like you have a 50/50 chance of unmatched blazing 4G speed, or you get something that shutters and chokes. Anyway I'm rambling...
If you're having serious issues with a device, take it back to Big Red. If it just seems like maybe a few operations are acting funny, try flashing something first.
Typed entirely by the witchcraft that is Swiftkey X on my Team Kang AOKP GNex.

NOT rooted, but problem free thank God

Myth or Reality: GNex Problems

Ok, so the ongoing "on my third replacement" discussions baffle me. Personal experience is nothing but good - bought VZW GNex at launch, upgraded wife's Fascinate a few months ago to a GNex (only 1 sort of valid issue, but not worth a return), and still loving the device. [Side note - not loving Verizon's delay in rolling out JB]
Popular issues that makes folks say this phone is crap:
1. My signal is weak. Welll...check your local network, and try a signal in the open air. Problems inside your home or at work? It's called a building folks, and those wall thingies? Yeah, they tend to block radiowaves with all of that electric, water pipes, and insulation running through them. I had both Nexi side by side recently in the open air, and indeed hardware version 10 had a 6dB worse signal...until I set down my version 9 GNex, and moving the v.10 device 1 inch to the right suddenly shot the signal to a BETTER dB reading than the v.09. AIRWAVES - they move, and phones sitting side by side may have a different dB value simply because of AIRWAVES.
2. I can't hold a 4G signal. Check the threads and the Google issue trackers - it's regional, which implies that it's Verizon's issue, not the phone's.
3. Phone randomly reboots. Valid issue, but software related that was corrected with 4.0.4.
4. Screen has a purple tint. Somewhat valid (only complaint about wife's GNex), however appears software driven as increasing brightness to maximum cures the issue.
5. "I'm suddenly having [name the issue] problems. Oh by the way, I just flashed a custom ROM, didn't follow any directions on the XDA threads, and really didn't know what the heck I was doing." That's not a phone problem, that's a YOU problem.
5 examples, none actually related to bad hardware. The GNex is the best device I've ever owned and is a reliable performer. What many should do is lower their expectations - the Nexus is not the "perfect solution", but a Google Experience Device that gives the user the experience that Google intended without a bunch of manufacturer skins and carrier bloat ware. For those 2 reasons, the Galaxy Nexus is spectacular.
Discuss.
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Aside from crappy screen (grainy and hosting issue) I have no problems with my GSM Nexus. I already got used to this screen though.....Best phone I have used so far, but I haven't played with SG3 yet

Bravo... *slowly claps*
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Wow, weak signal and bad 4G radio solved all by you in this thread.
Sorry, this thread ='s FAIL!
My 3rd replacement GNEX with a fully working radio just told me so........I will take his word over yours.

[email protected] said:
Wow, weak signal and bad 4G radio solved all by you in this thread.
Sorry, this thread ='s FAIL!
My 3rd replacement GNEX with a fully working radio just told me so........I will take his word over yours.
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Your phone talks to you... you sir have problems
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Google talks to me now. I mean Google Now talks to me.
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Phones are massed produced. There are bound to be some bad eggs. No device is 100% perfect. I get the frustration as its a pricey piece of equipment, but this is the harsh reality of things. I've had this phone for a week and I absolutely love it. Hell, my Nexus S was a bad egg and I'm glad I'm not using it anymore. And I have also noticed a lot of these network issues only seem to crop up with the CDMA versions.

#4 seems to be the fault of amoled screens. Had it on the 1st gen sgs at low brightness levels too.
good day.

I have not experienced any of those issues with my Verizon nexus. Although I'm rooted and am not running stock.
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chopper the dog said:
#4 seems to be the fault of amoled screens. Had it on the 1st gen sgs at low brightness levels too.
good day.
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? Never saw it nor do i see it now on my epic 4G. But yeah they have actually eliminated it in the new one in the gs3. We just happen to get poor quality control by Samsung..
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Winesnob said:
2. I can't hold a 4G signal. Check the threads and the Google issue trackers - it's regional, which implies that it's Verizon's issue, not the phone's..
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I've narrowed my 4g signal issues to a specific city in my area that has problems with all the carriers but T-Mobile funny enough
Also never had any of the other issues with my GNex
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If you're having phone issues i feel bad for you son
i got 99 problems but my Gnex aint one.

Besides my provided terrible reception at my home my nexus is almost perfect, only complaint is it creaks around the camera area(back panel don't appear to be completely secure).
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Only problem I've had is a couple weeks after purchase it wouldn't take a charge, icon and everything would show up bit no power. Sent it off and it came back works great they had to replace the microusb port according to the work order. Others have had this problem also. Crap happens and it was fixed promptly under warranty so I'm satisfied.
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ÜBER™ said:
Your phone talks to you... you sir have problems
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Um, yeah my phone talks to me. If it didn't I would have to send it back for another warranty exchange!!!
Anyway, it is when my scrambled eggs start talking to me I have a problem. The other day they yelled at me for adding to much pepper on them. The waitress agreed with the eggs. I told her she should seek professional help if she though it was normal for my eggs to talk to me. :silly: