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do i need to downgrade to root?

after searching the entire site on rooting procedures, ive found a thread saying my 1.84.661.1 needs to be downgraded b4 i can root. can any1 plz confirm this b4 i start messing with my phones internals?

Yes, you have to downgrade it.

jkoljo said:
Yes, you have to downgrade it.
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do i need aything else b4 i start? i have my stock telus ruu. certain sites r saying i need a gold card because my phone is branded. on my standard desire i never created a gold card, just used the stock ruu which flashed me back to the 1st time i turner on my phone. do i need todo anything to my hboot b4 hand?
my stats r as followed
ace pvt ship s-on rl
hboot 0.85.0019
microp-0438
radio-26.06.03.24_M2
eMMC-boot
and software info is
android 2.2.1
baseband 12.35d.60.140fU_26.06.03.24_M2
stock kernel
build number 1.84.661.1 cl325797 release keys
software number 1.84.661.1
browser 3.1
can i plz get a telus users help here? i bricked a nexus s yesterday which apparently is the easiest phone to root so im not stepping to far ahead of myself here. i created a noob proof video guide on the desire thread which ill prolly be doing here once i get myself rooted and feel comfortable enough to flash ruu etc.

Yep defo downgrade, can't root anything from 1.72 +
Sorry u must've posted as I posted
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dazza_84 said:
Yep defo downgrade, can't root anything from 1.72 +
Sorry u must've posted as I posted
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thx 4 the help. im rooted, s-offed, clockworked, and nandroided. am i rdy to flash a rom now?

Hi LINKSLOVESANDROID
LINKSLOVESANDROID said:
thx 4 the help. im rooted, s-offed, clockworked, and nandroided. am i rdy to flash a rom now?
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In a word, Yes.
Another word or two , it is highly recommended you [should] do a FULL-WIPE, if installing a diffident Rom from the one you are using.
Take Care
TheQuest

I'm TheQuest said:
Hi LINKSLOVESANDROID
In a word, Yes.
Another word or two , it is highly recommended you [should] do a FULL-WIPE, if installing a diffident Rom from the one you are using.
Take Care
TheQuest
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yep figured that. im a very expierience desire user. just needed alil bit of advice on features the desire didnt have. but 4 the majority, its the same. only difference is the rooting method. alot more difficult on the dhd

Hi LINKSLOVESANDROID
LINKSLOVESANDROID said:
yep figured that. im a very expierience desire user. just needed alil bit of advice on features the desire didnt have. but 4 the majority, its the same. only difference is the rooting method. alot more difficult on the dhd
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I guessed you were by the Rom's in your sig, but posted the reminder just in case.
Take Care
TheQuest

[Q] Can I put a new ROM if its not rooted ?

Just bought a new vodafone wildfire and had it sim unlocked
Its on 2.2.1 and hboot is 1.001
So I get the joke, I can't root it
But is there still a way of putting a generic ROM on it ?
If the "old days" you could do it with a gold card.
Does this still work on "2.2.1" ?
many thanks in advance

No, it doesn't. Sorry.

You could try downgrading there is a thread but the issus is there is a possibility of bricking the device so of course be carefully
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daddyspud said:
You could try downgrading there is a thread but the issus is there is a possibility of bricking the device so of course be carefully
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Indeed .... don't do this.
It's to risky....wait and root if it's possible for u !

u can only update RUU rom.

you could do the S-OFF (security off)in any bigger service with XTC-clip,after that you can root and flash what ever you wish......

caros_hsu said:
u can only update RUU rom.
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I am new to android. I have used WinMob for the last 6 years.
I tried several times with a gold card and the shipped WWE RUU, but failed with a signature error.
I searched but couldn't fine a specific thread on flashing stock RUU for 2.2.1. Can someone plz point me.... Thanks in advance.

Question don't belong in the Development section <---please click link and read....moved to general...

the older days have gone.
none of the processes which worked for eclair wildfire (with older hboot) now work for froyo wildfire.
And till now, on froyo wildfire with hboot 1.01, u cant even get a simple root just for using ROOT ONLY APPS.
what all u can do is WAIT DUDEEEE...................

[Q] Help me get back to stock!!

I have a Telus Desire HD and I managed to downgrade then root and Radio s-off,then installed Revolution HD 5.2.3 and everything is great.
However now i am selling it and the person that wants it says he wants it stock with no root or custom anything.
Honestly I don't know how to go about it to do this and that is why I need some help from someone that has more experience and knowledge than me.
Thanks in advance and if i left out any important info about my phone let me know and i will include it.

You should have made a backup of your stock rom .
if you did flash it though recovery. It will lose root. Still be s-off but they wont know ha.
failing that you need an official ruu. This is an .exe file used. With a windows pc. You will find these in the dev forum or the htc website. Ruu will.remove s-off radio-off and the eng hboot.
if you dort have a pc or cant connect your dhd to it. Flash a stock (but custom) ·rom and tell them its done.
.if they dont mod phones they wont know the difference.
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Thanks twiztedvvv for replying...
I'm gonna run down once more what is on the DHD at the moment so I can get the correct info on how to bring this back to stock.
Revolution HD 5.2.3
Clockworkmod latest
cid TELUS001
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-085.0007
Radio-26.03.02.26_M
eMMC-boot
Oct 11 2010,12:47:02
Before I rooted and installed custom rom the phone had the Telus logo when it booted but now its gone since I rooted and flashed the custom rom.
I managed to download to RUU's...
RUU_ACE_GINGERBREAD_S_TELUS_WWE_2.43.661.1_R_Radio_12.56.60.25_26.10.04.03_M_release_194001_signed
and
RUU_Ace_TELUS_WWE_1.84.661.1_R_Radio_12.35d.60.140f_26.06.03.24_M2_release_168987_signed
So after reading this what is your recommendation?Do i still need the gold card to flash the stock rom?
Thanks for the help bud!

Personally i would go for the first one you listed. Connect your phone to htc.sync and double click the ruu. It should run the update and return your phone to stock. No goldcard or special method needed. Let me know if it goes well?
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Oh man I think something is wrong....I fired up the first RUU and went trough all the instructions and hit update and it rebooted the phone to the black screen with the htc logo and its been sitting there for like over 30 min.What should I do,should I disconnect and try again or what.
I am so scared that this damn phone is bricked,please help!!
Edit:
Wow I almost got a heart attack and thought it bricked but was relieved when it booted up again.
But now I am scared to attempt this again and I don't know what went wrong.

Did it flash the RUU? or are you still rooted?
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No,unfortunately it did not flash cause it got stuck at the black HTC screen and then I disconected the cable rebooted the phone.
And now I am totally scared to even make a second attempt but eventualy I will have to.What is the chance of bricking the phone while running th RUU?

I have never heard of it happening before but I don't want you to be the first.
I don't understand why it didn't flash. If Ruu are not compatible it won't try to flash them. Usually.
I know its not morally right. But could you flash a stock rom via recovery then remove the superuser app. Giving the impression of being stock. Will be safer for you.
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twiztedvvv said:
I have never heard of it happening before but I don't want you to be the first.
I don't understand why it didn't flash. If Ruu are not compatible it won't try to flash them. Usually.
I know its not morally right. But could you flash a stock rom via recovery then remove the superuser app. Giving the impression of being stock. Will be safer for you.
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Is it possible to even brick with RUU at all?I want to give it a second try but the thought off bricking is scaring me.I use to own an Iphone before I switched to Android and I had the worst experience with the Iphone that it left a mental scar on me.
Anyway I spoke to the guy that wants to buy my phone and he is basicaly now saying that he wont mind having the phone rooted but he would like to have a stock rom on it.
I tried to tell him that the current rom that I have on (Revolution HD 5.2.4) is way better than stock but he is not listening to me.

There are stock roms in the dev section. Ill grab a link for you if I have time. Bit busy at the monent sorry.
Idont think you can brick with an ruu but I'm not 100 percent. Id go with the stock rom through recovery.
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twiztedvvv said:
There are stock roms in the dev section. Ill grab a link for you if I have time. Bit busy at the monent sorry.
Idont think you can brick with an ruu but I'm not 100 percent. Id go with the stock rom through recovery.
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No problem bud I will wait patiently for that link.
Maybe the ones I have are not compatible or the wrong ones,I have no idea at all.
I apreciate your help my friend and I am sure glad I signed up here and I have a great deal of learning to do.Thanks again!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059563
This, I believe, is the best option. And the safest.
Its a standard zip to flash through recovery. Its rooted but as the person buying the phone said they want stock. This is the closest you will get without an RUU. Glad to be able to help.
Out of interest are you getting another android after selling your dhd.
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twiztedvvv said:
Out of interest are you getting another android after selling your dhd.
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I am definetely getting another Android.I am never going back to iPhone ever,it was a nightmare owning an iPhone in the past and it left me disappointed.
I am gonna get the sane as I have now a desire Hd but one that is new and comes with warranty.The one I am selling was used when I bought so no warranty.
I will let you know how it goes and thanks again for helping out,much appreciated.
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Not sure why the ruu failed. But if you want to give an alternative a try is run the ruu for the first two steps, right before it begins flashing. Go into your temp folder. You'll see a folder named bunch of gibberish. In there look for rom.zip. copy it and rename it PD98IMG. Place in the root of your SD card and flash through hboot

So I am on Windows 7 and where is this temp folder located specifically?
Could it be possible that the RUU failure is caused by win7?
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In the start menu search %temp%.
Not sure. Could be maybe a driver issue? Did you have USB debugging on? Maybe a bad download?
I've ran ruus on windows 7. So I doubt its the os

I think I did have usb debuging on....you think tat could be the problem?
And thanks for the search tip I managed to find the folder.
I will give this a shot in the morning with a nice cup of coffee .
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ive always have mine to have usb debugging on when connected to a pc, but not positive that it is required for the ruu. Ive only ran an RUU a couple of times.
Also do you have HTC Sync installed? if not install it and try RUU again. Personally i prefer the PD98IMG method though. keep us posted

I do have HTC synch installed so I think that can't be the problem.
I'll try the RUU method one more time and if it fails then I will try your method.
Thank's for your kind help sir.
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ok. let me know if it works. maybe try the other ruu this time. first one you tried must be wrong. good luck

Incredible 2 (vivow) with hboot .98?

So I just got a droid incredible 2 and was planning to run revolutionary on it to get S-OFF and root it. I tried to get started but apparently I have HBOOT .98 rather than the supported .97.
Does anyone know if the latest OTA is to blame for this or something about new dinc2's?
Is there a way to downgrade HBOOTs?

No, you cannot downgrade, not without root anyway, which you cannot get since it's not supported yet (see here). No clue when it will be, and I doubt anyone else does either
Didn't this forum already go through this once already before the GB root was available? Feels like deja vu

Wow, that was quick... Verizon must've already had a batch of new Dinc2's already updated and shipped before they did the OTA update a few days ago... .98 Hboot is what is coming in the latest OTA updates.
Looking like a new wave of XtcClip buyers again till the Devs can achieve S-Off again for the .98 Hboot.

So not knowing anything about HBOOT, besides the version, I know the Desire S is supported on HBOOT version .98.
Are these completely different or the same across all HTC phones?

I don't know if it has been confirmed that HTC clip supports .98 hboot either. but hopefully it works!

Will the HBOOT .98 ever be unlocked? I just got the INC2 and it automatically installed when I left the house for a few minutes!!!! Is it possible someone will unlock this?? I got the phone mainly so I can OC it and put on custom roms, WTF!! (

rizzo777 said:
Will the HBOOT .98 ever be unlocked? I just got the INC2 and it automatically installed when I left the house for a few minutes!!!! Is it possible someone will unlock this?? I got the phone mainly so I can OC it and put on custom roms, WTF!! (
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there is still hope the xtc clip works..

Just return phone go to another Verizon.
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Ill be getting my inc 2 tomorrow (replacement for inc 1) and it wouldn't surprise me if I'm stuck in the same dilemma. Disappointing but ill have to wait because my inc 1 isn't functioning anyway.
Looking forward to the battery life though anyway. I had to go to aosp for better battery life with dinc 1 anyway.
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iceman99393 said:
Just return phone go to another Verizon.
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Go to an authorized agent. The inventories there tend to be older.
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DInc II arrived on Friday.
I got soo lucky when I pushed customer service to give me an early upgrade.
It cost a total of $99.99 billed in Oct.
I worked real hard at rooting it, and come Monday I see it payed off.
I'm sure that it is only a matter of time that devs will discover, test, test and distribute the magic that they are soo good at.
I tried to donate to them but PayPal or AMEX was not an option and it has been so long that I looked at a money order that I don't think it would be worth the $0.60 USD + a postage stamp to mess with it.
Does any one know of a NORMAL way to donate to AlphaRevX or Revolutionary?
I plan on trying to get another DInc II in January (if it is still around).

me too
+1 stuck with S-ON and the 0.98.0000 HBOOT from OTA...

FYI
I just sent my Dinc2 in for warranty and the replacement has Hboot .97

now that XTC clips (everyone) are now unlimited, from beta to actual unlimited clips, so should try to find one.

Im pretty sure alpharev is working on s off for our 98 hboot they where asking for just that hboot or a link to the ota.... Pretty good sign
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Workaround for 2.3.4?
Apologies if this post outs me as a total noob, but I'm only a week into my budding love affair with the DInc2 and Android, and I've already made one stupid misstep, as my phone came with HBOOT .97, and I foolishly took the OTA, realizing about a day later that yes, I would like to root this phone.
Being impatient, I was googling around to see if there were any solutions, when I found a link to a guide to unroot the Incredible 2 (which apparently I'm not allowed to link to yet). Basically, what this guide does is reflash the phone to 2.2 via an official signed update package (which should be able to be dropped on the SD card of the phone and flashed via the power/volume down method), gain temp root and manually reflash the HBOOT with .97 (via a dd command), and then upgrades (via another package to be flashed from the SD card, not OTA) to 2.3.3. At that point, I believe I could use the current version of revolutionary to gain S-Off, root the phone via the normal method, and be set to go.
Now, my question: is this going to result in a bricked device or a lot of wasted effort? Can the phone even take a signed update from the SD card without being S-Off? And will it trip me up when I try to flash to 2.2 because it's older than what's currently on the phone? Has anyone thought to try this? Waiting for Revolutionary to update is probably the smarter course of action, but I am one to push the limits of the technology around me, so unless someone out there knows that this won't work, I'll likely give it a go.

You will need to update to 2.3.3 leaked ruu to s-off anyways
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kartng said:
Apologies if this post outs me as a total noob, but I'm only a week into my budding love affair with the DInc2 and Android, and I've already made one stupid misstep, as my phone came with HBOOT .97, and I foolishly took the OTA, realizing about a day later that yes, I would like to root this phone.
Being impatient, I was googling around to see if there were any solutions, when I found a link to a guide to unroot the Incredible 2 (which apparently I'm not allowed to link to yet). Basically, what this guide does is reflash the phone to 2.2 via an official signed update package (which should be able to be dropped on the SD card of the phone and flashed via the power/volume down method), gain temp root and manually reflash the HBOOT with .97 (via a dd command), and then upgrades (via another package to be flashed from the SD card, not OTA) to 2.3.3. At that point, I believe I could use the current version of revolutionary to gain S-Off, root the phone via the normal method, and be set to go.
Now, my question: is this going to result in a bricked device or a lot of wasted effort? Can the phone even take a signed update from the SD card without being S-Off? And will it trip me up when I try to flash to 2.2 because it's older than what's currently on the phone? Has anyone thought to try this? Waiting for Revolutionary to update is probably the smarter course of action, but I am one to push the limits of the technology around me, so unless someone out there knows that this won't work, I'll likely give it a go.
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if your current hboot is. 98 you'll have to wait.
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Nevermind lol.

[Q] Stuck in limbo, need help!

I have posted several stuff about a situation I am having with my phone.... and I still cannot get it solved fully. I hope I can do it here.
I will try and summarize the situation with some key points.
First here is my current info....
Android Version 2.2.1
Baseband Version 2.15.00.03.04
Kernel Version [email protected]#2
Build Number 1.05.970.1 CL339957 release keys
Software number 1.05.970.1
PRI version 2.11_01c
PRL version 01001
Model Number PC36100
Supersonic DVT1 Ship S-ON
HBOOT-6.17.0001
MICROP-041f
TOUCH PANEL-ATMEL224_20aa
RADIO-2.15.00.03.04
Now I first rooted using revolutionary and got s-off properly.... I played with some roms and found it fun but not enough time to keep at it..... so I decided to s-on and go back to stock using un-revoked. That semi worked.... I got s-on.... but never lost the root. I still have recovery and everything still shows I have root except s-on.
Additionally, I tried to run the stock kddi ruu and i have gotten every error from 140, 170, 171 and even at one time 130...lol still no luck there. In doing all of that I figured out that the image version on my phone is 4.24.651.1 and I need to get to 1.05.970.1 (the stock kddi evo 4g) but cannot get it done.
Also I am HBOOT-6.17.0001 which is confusing in itself. xhausx helped me by giving me a nanadroid version of my kddi rom but that doesn't allow me to update anything and finding updates here is impossible unless I am running stock without root.
I am not sure if I need to flash a new misc partition, wipe my nand or something else and so not know how to do all of that..... can someone please please please help? I am willing to toss a small reward your way if we get me back to when I bought it.

I think you need to run the RUU for your phone; get it back to out of the box, stock, and just start over.

HipKat said:
I think you need to run the RUU for your phone; get it back to out of the box, stock, and just start over.
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didnt you see this in my message????
Additionally, I tried to run the stock kddi ruu and i have gotten every error from 140, 170, 171 and even at one time 130...lol still no luck there.
if you have another RUU that I do not know about please let me know... because the one that I have from kddi is not working.
my current one is.... RUU_SuperSonic_K_KDDI_JP_1.05.970.1_Radio_2.15.00.03.04_NV_2.11_release_176711_signed.exe

You have a Japanese Evo, right?
Since it's a different phone, most of the people here will not be able to help you. I could tell you what to do if you had a American Evo, but it would probably either error out or further your problem.
Is there a forum for your specific version? Do things generally work the same as our Evos... like can you use the same RUU that I would use?
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I was thinking if this will work somthing I might do if everything fails? Maybe you could try rooting it again and unroot?
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plainjane said:
You have a Japanese Evo, right?
Since it's a different phone, most of the people here will not be able to help you. I could tell you what to do if you had a American Evo, but it would probably either error out or further your problem.
Is there a forum for your specific version? Do things generally work the same as our Evos... like can you use the same RUU that I would use?
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The fact that I have a Japanese evo doesn't mean that anyone will not be able to help me. This is actually the place where the developers made the first RUU for the Japanese evo to begin with. There are plenty of pro's here.... we just need to find the right solution for me. Additionally, most everything works the same.... I cannot use the same RUU as you because the cid will come up different and cause me more probs.

culua said:
I was thinking if this will work somthing I might do if everything fails? Maybe you could try rooting it again and unroot?
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I have tried to run the root process again and it says in revolutionary that you already have s-off..... which in fact I do not.... and when I do the opposite process it just acts like its running the s-on and does nothing.

AgentTabasco said:
I have tried to run the root process again and it says in revolutionary that you already have s-off..... which in fact I do not.... and when I do the opposite process it just acts like its running the s-on and does nothing.
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Sorry can't help you. I guess just flash stock Rom for now untill you found an answer for problem. Sometime it fix it self? Lol.
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Fixed
I have fixed my phone since I last posted this thread... thanks to all those that helped me solve my issues.