So I just got a droid incredible 2 and was planning to run revolutionary on it to get S-OFF and root it. I tried to get started but apparently I have HBOOT .98 rather than the supported .97.
Does anyone know if the latest OTA is to blame for this or something about new dinc2's?
Is there a way to downgrade HBOOTs?
No, you cannot downgrade, not without root anyway, which you cannot get since it's not supported yet (see here). No clue when it will be, and I doubt anyone else does either
Didn't this forum already go through this once already before the GB root was available? Feels like deja vu
Wow, that was quick... Verizon must've already had a batch of new Dinc2's already updated and shipped before they did the OTA update a few days ago... .98 Hboot is what is coming in the latest OTA updates.
Looking like a new wave of XtcClip buyers again till the Devs can achieve S-Off again for the .98 Hboot.
So not knowing anything about HBOOT, besides the version, I know the Desire S is supported on HBOOT version .98.
Are these completely different or the same across all HTC phones?
I don't know if it has been confirmed that HTC clip supports .98 hboot either. but hopefully it works!
Will the HBOOT .98 ever be unlocked? I just got the INC2 and it automatically installed when I left the house for a few minutes!!!! Is it possible someone will unlock this?? I got the phone mainly so I can OC it and put on custom roms, WTF!! (
rizzo777 said:
Will the HBOOT .98 ever be unlocked? I just got the INC2 and it automatically installed when I left the house for a few minutes!!!! Is it possible someone will unlock this?? I got the phone mainly so I can OC it and put on custom roms, WTF!! (
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there is still hope the xtc clip works..
Just return phone go to another Verizon.
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Ill be getting my inc 2 tomorrow (replacement for inc 1) and it wouldn't surprise me if I'm stuck in the same dilemma. Disappointing but ill have to wait because my inc 1 isn't functioning anyway.
Looking forward to the battery life though anyway. I had to go to aosp for better battery life with dinc 1 anyway.
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Just return phone go to another Verizon.
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Go to an authorized agent. The inventories there tend to be older.
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DInc II arrived on Friday.
I got soo lucky when I pushed customer service to give me an early upgrade.
It cost a total of $99.99 billed in Oct.
I worked real hard at rooting it, and come Monday I see it payed off.
I'm sure that it is only a matter of time that devs will discover, test, test and distribute the magic that they are soo good at.
I tried to donate to them but PayPal or AMEX was not an option and it has been so long that I looked at a money order that I don't think it would be worth the $0.60 USD + a postage stamp to mess with it.
Does any one know of a NORMAL way to donate to AlphaRevX or Revolutionary?
I plan on trying to get another DInc II in January (if it is still around).
me too
+1 stuck with S-ON and the 0.98.0000 HBOOT from OTA...
FYI
I just sent my Dinc2 in for warranty and the replacement has Hboot .97
now that XTC clips (everyone) are now unlimited, from beta to actual unlimited clips, so should try to find one.
Im pretty sure alpharev is working on s off for our 98 hboot they where asking for just that hboot or a link to the ota.... Pretty good sign
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Workaround for 2.3.4?
Apologies if this post outs me as a total noob, but I'm only a week into my budding love affair with the DInc2 and Android, and I've already made one stupid misstep, as my phone came with HBOOT .97, and I foolishly took the OTA, realizing about a day later that yes, I would like to root this phone.
Being impatient, I was googling around to see if there were any solutions, when I found a link to a guide to unroot the Incredible 2 (which apparently I'm not allowed to link to yet). Basically, what this guide does is reflash the phone to 2.2 via an official signed update package (which should be able to be dropped on the SD card of the phone and flashed via the power/volume down method), gain temp root and manually reflash the HBOOT with .97 (via a dd command), and then upgrades (via another package to be flashed from the SD card, not OTA) to 2.3.3. At that point, I believe I could use the current version of revolutionary to gain S-Off, root the phone via the normal method, and be set to go.
Now, my question: is this going to result in a bricked device or a lot of wasted effort? Can the phone even take a signed update from the SD card without being S-Off? And will it trip me up when I try to flash to 2.2 because it's older than what's currently on the phone? Has anyone thought to try this? Waiting for Revolutionary to update is probably the smarter course of action, but I am one to push the limits of the technology around me, so unless someone out there knows that this won't work, I'll likely give it a go.
You will need to update to 2.3.3 leaked ruu to s-off anyways
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Apologies if this post outs me as a total noob, but I'm only a week into my budding love affair with the DInc2 and Android, and I've already made one stupid misstep, as my phone came with HBOOT .97, and I foolishly took the OTA, realizing about a day later that yes, I would like to root this phone.
Being impatient, I was googling around to see if there were any solutions, when I found a link to a guide to unroot the Incredible 2 (which apparently I'm not allowed to link to yet). Basically, what this guide does is reflash the phone to 2.2 via an official signed update package (which should be able to be dropped on the SD card of the phone and flashed via the power/volume down method), gain temp root and manually reflash the HBOOT with .97 (via a dd command), and then upgrades (via another package to be flashed from the SD card, not OTA) to 2.3.3. At that point, I believe I could use the current version of revolutionary to gain S-Off, root the phone via the normal method, and be set to go.
Now, my question: is this going to result in a bricked device or a lot of wasted effort? Can the phone even take a signed update from the SD card without being S-Off? And will it trip me up when I try to flash to 2.2 because it's older than what's currently on the phone? Has anyone thought to try this? Waiting for Revolutionary to update is probably the smarter course of action, but I am one to push the limits of the technology around me, so unless someone out there knows that this won't work, I'll likely give it a go.
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if your current hboot is. 98 you'll have to wait.
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Nevermind lol.
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Yes, it can be done. There is an RUU floating around, and I just successfully downgraded. That said, while recovery was removed, S-OFF was NOT removed.
What I do not know is how this would affect those who did OTA or the .3 release. I did flash down though from Gingersense.
More to come, as I now have to read about how to get Clockwork Recovery back into place.. That's critical now.
EDIT: Blah.. Just FYI, it doesn't look like the RUU I was using was the stock release. But it's Froyo regardless.
EDIT 2: Big Blah.. If you're S-ON, it won't work. Works fine if you're S-OFF though.
What was the name of the file?
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RUU_Vivo_W_VERIZON_WWE_1.34.605.3_Radio_0.99.01.0225_2_NV_VZW1.92_release_181303_signed.exe
Looks like 1.34.605.4 is the stock release, but I'm not positive.
And I'm back to where I was before I ran the RUU. Everything appears to work. No issues getting CWM recovery back on.
This may be an option for those who went OTA and want to get root...they just might not have it with OTA.
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And I'm back to where I was before I ran the RUU. Everything appears to work. No issues getting CWM recovery back on.
This may be an option for those who went OTA and want to get root...they just might not have it with OTA.
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Ill give it a shot seeing that I haven't received my xtc clip yet and pounced on gb leak since alpharev wasn't available yet
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Ill give it a shot seeing that I haven't received my xtc clip yet and pounced on gb leak since alpharev wasn't available yet
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Please, post your results. I'm curious to hear!
I tried it, and I received an error from the ruu program. Error 190 or something like that.
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Can you mirror the file, FileFactory is horribly slow. 2 hours? Really?
Does this downgrade HBOOT so you can root the device? I just picked up a new Incredible 2 on Craigslist, 2 days old. Came with Gingerbread installed
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Does this downgrade HBOOT so you can root the device? I just picked up a new Incredible 2 on Craigslist, 2 days old. Came with Gingerbread installed
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dunno, just called Verizon and getting a replacement, i hope it doesn't have gingerbread on it - that would be sweet.
Ok. I'm wondering if this will work. My incredible 2 has 2.3.3 with HBOOT of .97. Now AlpharevX works with that HBOOT its just that it can't can't get root because of gingerbread. Would downgrading to froyo fix this? Love this phone. Hate the ****ing bloat.
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It looks like it's an issue of security checking. If you could get it downgrade to Froyo, then it should work. But because of S-ON, it won't downgrade. At least, that's the best I can figure.
So the solution would be to just wait until GB gets S-OFF?
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So the solution would be to just wait until GB gets S-OFF?
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Yes. For whatever reason, despite being signed updates, HTC and/or Verizon won't let you downgrade the device. It worked for me because I was S-OFF already though, so it's a "security" issue.
I also have s-off on mine but after I got it I did factory reset and then it downloaded and installed update while it was charging and i never knew untill i looked and was like o crap it updated by itself so i hope this works.
sk0t i think i could hug you for this post i just ran that ruu and was able to get my root back just installed CM7
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Yes, it can be done. There is an RUU floating around, and I just successfully downgraded. That said, while recovery was removed, S-OFF was NOT removed.
What I do not know is how this would affect those who did OTA or the .3 release. I did flash down though from Gingersense.
More to come, as I now have to read about how to get Clockwork Recovery back into place.. That's critical now.
EDIT: Blah.. Just FYI, it doesn't look like the RUU I was using was the stock release. But it's Froyo regardless.
EDIT 2: Big Blah.. If you're S-ON, it won't work. Works fine if you're S-OFF though.
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Just made an account to post this...hope it helps. My roommate was fed up with 2.3 on her Droid X so she called verizon to complain and they send her an OTA flash back to 2.2. I know its a different phone but it may be an option for you folks that are looking as well...cheers!
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Just made an account to post this...hope it helps. My roommate was fed up with 2.3 on her Droid X so she called verizon to complain and they send her an OTA flash back to 2.2. I know its a different phone but it may be an option for you folks that are looking as well...cheers!
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I have to admit, that is very interesting. I wonder if they'd do it for the HTC phones. I know the X had a ****-ton of problems with 2.3.
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I have to admit, that is very interesting. I wonder if they'd do it for the HTC phones. I know the X had a ****-ton of problems with 2.3.
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I just got off the phone with big red, and they said with these phones there is not a way to back out an upgrade. If anyone else has any luck, please let us know
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I also have s-off on mine but after I got it I did factory reset and then it downloaded and installed update while it was charging and i never knew untill i looked and was like o crap it updated by itself so i hope this works.
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I just got off the phone with big red, and they said with these phones there is not a way to back out an upgrade. If anyone else has any luck, please let us know
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Damn that really sucks. This is exactly what happened to my sister. I wonder, when did pushing updates with no confirmation become okay? I thought the OTA needs your permission to install?
I received an Inc 2 as a replacement phone and it came preloaded with the gingerbread ota.
I have researched various forums and have found some conflicting information. Mainly, this thread serves as a clarification for myself and those that also have gingerbread preinstalled.
1. Is it possible to downgrade to froyo in order to root when the phone comes preinstalled with gingerbread?
2. Is there currently a way, software wise, to root the 2.3.3 gingerbread update?
3. If the answer to the previous questions is no, is it ever going to be possible to install a custom rom and/or gain root access ?
Basically I am trying to decide if I should attempt to exchange it for an Inc2 with the old froyo software installed.
Thanks in advance.
I got lucky, I already replaced fascinate with dinc2 and got it today, however I had froyo on it.
1. no
2. no
3. Wait for an exploit or buy XTC clip.
No, you cannot downgrade to Froyo without rooting the phone.
No, there is no way to root the phone via software, YET.
Yes, it is likely that there will eventually be a software root for GB phones. It might be a while, because they just came out with froyo root a few weeks ago.
You could always get in on one of those XTC clip trading/group buy deals. I would just keep your phone for the time being, because honestly, there aren't any good ROM's yet. (this goes along with the fact that the phone just recently got rooted)
You're not really missing out on anything. My phone is rooted, and I am running the OTA debloated, not much different....
AT&T did that with My ARIA when I ordered it it was supposed to have 2.1 (Eclair) on it that was rootable, but by the time I got it they had released 2.2 (Froyo) and they shipped it that way.
I didn't have to wait very long before S-OFF was achieved though.
I imagine some Dev will stumble onto a way to S-OFF the latest OTA.
But If its the latest version I as far as I know you will need an XTC-Clip to get S-OFF.
I had miui on my fassy and miss it greatly
Oh well, it was worth a shot. Guess I can deal with stock for a while, if it becomes too unbearable I'll cough up the money for a clip.
haha you'll have the official MIUI with dinc2. check miui-us's post
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haha you'll have the official MIUI with dinc2. check miui-us's post
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Drooling over that currently haha
At least sense is better than touchwiz
I saw a few guys on here claim to be able to downgrade, but I don't know the truth to that statement. If I was in your position I would look into it, though.
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From what I can gather, you can only downgrade if your phone was rooted and s-off applied before the gingerbread update. In the case of phones with the preinstalled gingerbread ota it is not possible. Again, I am basically guessing but I believe this to be the case.
If it's true that you can downgrade and root, please correct me immediately lol
I think you're right, if you're S-OFF you can restore back to froyo with an RUU, but the whole point of having S-OFF is to be able to flash unofficial firmware, so if you're already on gingerbread and S-ON you're out of luck for now.
Has anyone confirmed that the XTC clip works for S-OFF on gingerbread?
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No, you cannot downgrade to Froyo without rooting the phone.
No, there is no way to root the phone via software, YET.
Yes, it is likely that there will eventually be a software root for GB phones. It might be a while, because they just came out with froyo root a few weeks ago.
You could always get in on one of those XTC clip trading/group buy deals. I would just keep your phone for the time being, because honestly, there aren't any good ROM's yet. (this goes along with the fact that the phone just recently got rooted)
You're not really missing out on anything. My phone is rooted, and I am running the OTA debloated, not much different....
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There aren't any good roms yet? Really I guess omgb omfgb miui and cm suck lol
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No, you cannot downgrade to Froyo without rooting the phone.
No, there is no way to root the phone via software, YET.
Yes, it is likely that there will eventually be a software root for GB phones. It might be a while, because they just came out with froyo root a few weeks ago.
You could always get in on one of those XTC clip trading/group buy deals. I would just keep your phone for the time being, because honestly, there aren't any good ROM's yet. (this goes along with the fact that the phone just recently got rooted)
You're not really missing out on anything. My phone is rooted, and I am running the OTA debloated, not much different....
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You're right there sent any 'food's roms there are 'great' roms. CM and MIUI are completely stable and considering the fact that software root was just released I would say that's a great sign of things to come. Plus we have some great sense 3.0 roms that are being worked on as we speak. Bottom line is if you want to harness the best of your phone's hardware you'll need s-off.
Software s-off is not yet possible but an xtc clip definitely works. It is a hardware unlock so it doesn't matter which rom you have installed as it does its process in hboot before the rom even loads. The reason software s-off for gb isn't possible yet is because the exploit alpharevx used is patched in gb. I'm sure they'll find a way sooner or later but patience is the key.
This post is not meant to demean anyone just putting nlmy thoughts out there. Oh and by the way this thread probably belongs in the general section
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Ok, a few users here have offered advice/assistance, but I fear this problem has been forgotten.
I am stuck with an S-ON, 2.3.4 Droid Incredible, and am looking for a way to acquire root again.
This happened a few weeks ago, with the leak of the 2.3.4 OTA. Flashed S-ON via CWM (not aware I would permanently lose Root), then flashed the OTA as PB31IMG.zip in HBOOT.
Now, Unrevoked no longer roots the device. HBOOT will not allow downgrading to a 2.2 IMG, nor will it flash any downgraded Radio/HBOOT versions. I've tried them all from Dougpiston.com, even the signed ones.
I've attempted to contact the folks at Unrevoked about this issue on IRC, but I can't ever get a reliable dialogue going with anyone, and I believe they are busy working on Revolution, for Incredible 2/S & Newer devices.
Throwing my hands up, I even called Verizon, gave them an excuse to send me a replacement, just so I could start fresh with a 2.2 phone, but I am out of warranty.
I really want to enjoy Sense 3.0/MIUI, even Cyanogenmod, but the outlook is not so good.
Is there any solution I haven't tried yet? Please help.
Unless Unrevoked or someone else finds a new root method you're pretty much out of luck.
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Yep, same situation here, nothing will re-root if you did the GB OTA with S-ON bootloader. just have to wait and see if somebody comes up with something new or Unrevoked comes up with a new method.
EDIT: and I'm willing to bet if you get one from Verizon it might already be 2.3.4
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Yep, same situation here, nothing will re-root if you did the GB OTA with S-ON bootloader. just have to wait and see if somebody comes up with something new or Unrevoked comes up with a new method.
EDIT: and I'm willing to bet if you get one from Verizon it might already be 2.3.4
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That's most likely true. 2.3.4 is being pushed out to the Incredible now, so they would probably run the newest RUU on their Incredible devices.
I feel your pain deadsoulboy, and I've seen your posts lamenting your situation on other threads. Only solace I can offer you is that generally the source code and RUU are made available within 30 days of the OTA, at which point the developers are completely free to tear into them with reckless abandon and hopefully the folks at unrevoked figure things out.
It's also distinctly possible that HTC will unlock the bootloader the way it has with others of its handsets, in which case you'll be back in business.
Until then, my friend, I believe you are rootless.
i have the same problem. its been a couple months.... am i still hosed?
Have you tried this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
I used Scotty1223's instructions a few weeks ago and it worked like a charm.
So I burnt out my Cpu on my original rooted Dinc and got a replacement however after playing around on my replacement Dinc verizon pushed the update to 2.3.4 onto my phone. I would've stopped it but I figured I would just downgrade and root again however the new HBOOT 92 didn't let me downgrade i tried the unrevoked method anyway and i got a custom recovery so i restored MIUI on my current Dinc however i seem to still be unrooted? for example Titanium Backup can't delete system apps. i still have S-on and the new HBOOT 92 however i also have a mac so i am a little stuck and confused on how to regain full root access with s-off again any hep would be greatly appreciated.
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So I burnt out my Cpu on my original rooted Dinc and got a replacement however after playing around on my replacement Dinc verizon pushed the update to 2.3.4 onto my phone. I would've stopped it but I figured I would just downgrade and root again however the new HBOOT 92 didn't let me downgrade i tried the unrevoked method anyway and i got a custom recovery so i restored MIUI on my current Dinc however i seem to still be unrooted? for example Titanium Backup can't delete system apps. i still have S-on and the new HBOOT 92 however i also have a mac so i am a little stuck and confused on how to regain full root access with s-off again any hep would be greatly appreciated.
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Check this out. http://androidforums.com/incredible-all-things-root/427344-2-3-4-root-downgrade-s-off.html
Can we use the desire s alpharev
Way to root the incredible 2. Since it has the same hboot. But the question is will it pick up ur phone. Might be a dumb question but worth asking.
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are you on 2.3.3 or 2.3.4?
He's obviously asking about the latest OTA. I was wondering the same thing when I saw it was the same bootloader version.
I don't think it'd work, being as the hardware is totally different.
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I'm by no means telling you to try it but I do know that the virtuous team had a way to flash a different hboot on a device. I can't remember if it was the incraedible s or the desire s though. Might wanna check in with them
I don't recommend it. Especially since AlphaRev has an S-Off tool for rooting the DINC2, which is what I used, and it's almost entirely idiot-proof (which was really good for me at the time). There's also a YouTube walk-through of the process.
Yea but is for the 0.97.0000 bootloader not the 0.98.0000 bootloader. I used that same video for my previous dinc2 but I got this one and it git the update thru the first night I had it. Anywayz I want to root but need more info and nobody has asked this question and I hate waiting for the reach around. <<<< funny
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I am extremely interested in this, as i also did the OTA update to 2.3.4 before checking to see if there was a root for it yet (dumb, i know...). Figured the device was as popular as the dinc 1 and would get root updates pretty fast.
I seen that alpharevx was asking for a link to our 98 hboot on twitter, to me that's a pretty good sign that they are working on an exploit for 2.3.4
I have a launch day evo. I rooted it about a month later. I've been flashing roms ever since. But the past 6 months or so it seems that with physical age that the phone just isn't as fast as it used to be. I used a co workers stock evo today and it was so fast already! To me it didn't need to be rooted.
Now whenever I flash roms I always do a full wipe. I'm not an app person (on Android at least.) and don't have a partitioned sd card (wouldn't know how to do that if I wanted to). I just re download the basics like pandora, xda, swiftkey etc.
Now for my question, is there a way to completely start over from a clean slate? Do I need to update certain root files? My phone just seems so sluggish with out me having anything on it. Oh and I'm on classic rom right now.
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Yep. Easy. Run the RUU for your phone. That'll take it back to out of the box.
This link may be dated, but you're using a released ate EVO, so this should tell you everything
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...U2Mi1hNWU0LTRlNjEtYWMyOC1lZmU4ODg1ODc1ODI&ifq
BTW, you don't have to unroot first.
And then I can use one of the root methods to re root my phone?
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If your already s-off via unrevoked or revolutionary then you are already s-off. Just run a ruu to reset your software and start clean.
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Since you probably didn't run unrevoked forever, running an RUU will probably put you s-on. I'd RUU to either the last FroYo release to run unrevoked or at least pre hboot 2.18 so that rooting is easier. Go for hboot 2.16 (GB) or 2.10 (FroYo).
Remember that your phone is older, so running an RUU might not make an incredible difference. If you've had your Evo that long then you probably could upgrade. Maybe you're holding out for the same reason I am - there's nothing that much better out yet.
I'd RUU version 2.16 or older, once phone is reset, reroot and enjoy.
But hardware is older, it maybe just getting worn out and may need a good ole fashioned replacement. These things arent designed to last forever../