I am wondering what's the hold back of having sense 4a with a working camera? To my understanding sense is a shell added to android, if we have ICS drivers for a camera (or do we, perhaps its just a patch or workaround) then why cant those drivers work on sense 4a?
I love ICS, really like the ones with working camera such as CM9 or meXdroid Fried Icecream 2 but hate the fact there is a lacking touch to focus, panorama, etc features. Actually I would use those as a daily driver if they even had the bloody MIUI camera.
Yes its possible, the problem with Sense 4.0 is that, it need a proper framework compatible driver, which is not yet available.
Wait, it seems HTC has released ICS update (Sense 3.6) for desire HD in italy (read somewhre in a forum). so we have the drivers in it.
Once devs acquire it and test it, we'll have fully functional Sense 4.0A rom,
Am also waiting for that..
Hope it by end of May.
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Yes its possible, the problem with Sense 4.0 is that, it need a proper framework compatible driver, which is not yet available.
Wait, it seems HTC has released ICS update (Sense 3.6) for desire HD in italy (read somewhre in a forum). so we have the drivers in it.
Once devs acquire it and test it, we'll have fully functional Sense 4.0A rom,
Am also waiting for that..
Hope it by end of May.
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Where did you read this about DHD sense 3. 6
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xT4Z1N4TRx said:
Where did you read this about DHD sense 3. 6
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I just found it here myself
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1575845
that's for sensation
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Yes I can confirm, if it had really been released there would have been plenty of news on italian android blogs... But I haven't seen nothing yet. Most of all I've had a look on an italian forum but noone was saying anything about dhd update, many about sensation update
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that's for sensation
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Ya xT4Z1N4TRx, that was for sensation not DHD, seems I mis-read it.
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Does anyone know when the official ota for DHD is supposed to begin?
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Hi everyone
In your opinion, what ROM under development now do you think is the one to wait for?
The one that you can't wait to reach a stable version, or that will give the desire some more days to live?
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Oxygen is the one for me ;-)
That would be an ICS Rom with Sense
Oxygen 3, because if it fails, I'm soooo looking forward to going back to FroYo it is barely possible.
CM9 is the one i'm looking forward to - hopefully it will run without performance issues on the Desire!
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CM9 is the one i'm looking forward to - hopefully it will run without performance issues on the Desire!
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Totally agree. Waiting impatiently for CM9. Hope it will be made for Desire. Now using MIUI. Satisfied with it.
ICS on Desire will require A LOT of magic.
Got to be ics rom if it can't be done shall be upgrading my Desire.
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That would be an ICS Rom with Sense
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I'd love ICS on my Desire but I think HTC Sense will just mask many of the major UI improvements in Android and our phones are probably to slow to run the new sense that will be present on a 4.0 ROM
Ice Cream Sandwich should run better than 2.x, on the Desire Z, since it uses hardware acceleration for the UI across the board, right?
I can't wait to see an ICS ROM for the G2
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I'd love ICS on my Desire but I think HTC Sense will just mask many of the major UI improvements in Android and our phones are probably to slow to run the new sense that will be present on a 4.0 ROM
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I disagree. Lots of tech stuff from Sense is now directly in the system, which means Sense will be lighter, witch means it will be smaller, which means... You get the picture.
Waiting for cm9. Though I'll be buying the new nexus as soon as it comes to Norway. Its gonna be sad to put my desire away. We'be been through so much together..
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Personally I'm waiting for CM9. Though my desire already looks a lot like ICS.
The ROM i'm waiting for is Oxygen V3.
after that CM9.
hope ICS on Desire is possible anyway.
What I'm waiting for is Oxygen 3, then I will see of CM9 is good or not. Finally, I will hope to see a stable ICS Rom with Sense. (although that would take quite a while )
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AdamG got ICS to boot and work on SGS2 so hopefully he will be able to start porting in a week or so
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CM9 is the one i'm looking forward to - hopefully it will run without performance issues on the Desire!
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I would love that too
Deifyed said:
Waiting for cm9. Though I'll be buying the new nexus as soon as it comes to Norway. Its gonna be sad to put my desire away. We'be been through so much together..
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Have also just ordered my Galaxy Nexus, but would love to try CM9 on my beloved Desire
ICS rom with sense, ofcourse...
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CM9 but I'll use oxygen 3 until its released
While there are lots of build for htc sensation there is no rom with sense 3.5 and ICS for desire hd why that, beside the fact that capy left us.
Ask HTC
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While there are lots of build for htc sensation there is no rom with sense 3.5 and ICS for desire hd why that, beside the fact that capy left us.
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Why don't you put this question to HTC Company? They provide Sense ROMs.
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Why don't you put this question to HTC Company? They provide Sense ROMs.
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Sorry but I don't understand what you are saying.
Another related question is there a leak of ics + sense 3.5 for runny?
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While there are lots of build for htc sensation there is no rom with sense 3.5 and ICS for desire hd why that, beside the fact that capy left us.
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Because no-one's managed to port it yet? Capy is apparently working on it, but obviously it's not as easy a task as people think.
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Because no-one's managed to port it yet? Capy is apparently working on it, but obviously it's not as easy a task as people think.
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the kernel source is whats needed to really make it work properly.
With runny being much closer to a dhd hardware wise, its quite a bit easier, not to mention no resizing needed (which can be tedious)
The ICS port is in progress (check dev section), it's now working fine (for a beta).
But isn't it too early to ask for a sense ICS ROM??? If I'm not wrong no HTC device has been released yet, where can we find the ROM to port to our DHD?
When an ICS HTC ROM will leak, then we'll see.
So stick to your sense ROM for now or try the ICS DHD port
I found this on the HTC Desire HD forum, so I post here for any dev who is interested in porting this one
This is HTC One V Leak so no resizing is needed
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This is the link to One V RUU.
DO NOT ATTEMPT TO FLASH THIS ON YOUR DESIRE HD/INSPIRE 4G! This is for developers only.
http://115.com/file/bep8pzpk
Password to file: bbs.sdapk.com
Use google translate to translate from Chinese.
Mirrors:
https://hotfile.com/dl/149533791/23...822.15.00.03_M_release_247272_signed.rar.html
Football's thread with links to latest RUU's.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1335368
Hopefully no pw is needed for the mirrors, but the correct one is mentioned above.
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Why not XL
Yap and Desire HD already has Sense 4.0 rom, not everything works but hey at least it have it ,and DHD is very similar phone,almost the same in every aspect
Yeah I'm still waiting for some dev who interested in porting this to outt device... Hopefully some1 will show up...
Oh come on, where are you devs?
Not too happy to hear that this leak is just the HTC Sense 4 Light version as it comes with the One V. Some features are missing like the weather, friendstream lockscreen,... quick settings... etc
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Not too happy to hear that this leak is just the HTC Sense 4 Light version as it comes with the One V. Some features are missing like the weather, friendstream lockscreen,... quick settings... etc
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but we can add these features to the lite version! cant we?
or else we have to wait for the full ONE X leak
waitin 4 ics 4 rom wid sense 4 for sensation xl
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but we can add these features to the lite version! cant we?
or else we have to wait for the full ONE X leak
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Well it affected many functions of the phone I doubt it
Using this on my Desire S. Much much much faster than 3.5.
This ROM is perfect because it has the same specs as our phone.
Why do you want a One X port? We will need to resize images etc, and will be slower as its designed for a quad-core phone, we are only on a single core, with less RAM.
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you are right. Its damn fast. But however, the ROM is just as fast, because a lot is missing (Widgets, Lockscreen etc.). It is not so comfortable as the real Sense 3.5 or 4.0. The sense here is 4.0 light, which is similar to Sense 2.1
The One X, based on real Sense 4.0 Engine
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you are right. Its damn fast. But however, the ROM is just as fast, because a lot is missing (Widgets, Lockscreen etc.). It is not so comfortable as the real Sense 3.5 or 4.0. The sense here is 4.0 light, which is similar to Sense 2.1
The One X, based on real Sense 4.0 Engine
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Yeah, I noticed alot of options/widgets/functions are missing.
I have tried going back to Sense 3.5, but I find it soo much laggier
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Yeah, I noticed alot of options/widgets/functions are missing.
I have tried going back to Sense 3.5, but I find it soo much laggier
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Try to use an Ultra Smooth Rosie
Hopefully someone good with porting sense can do this..
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Try to use an Ultra Smooth Rosie
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Already been using it... I was using it since October, when the first Sense 3.0 ROMs were available
Sense is laggy when opening notifications, app drawer etc. Not like 4.0
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Not sire what you guys mean with laggy... Im come from desire.. and for sure...i know what lags are.. on desire also aosp roms have lags.. and now i have a phone with soo much speed.. no lockscreen lags.. even if a call comes.. i can push the symbol really smooth into the ring.. no slide lags during slide between homescreens.. i always use much htc widgets... After i play some 3d gameloft game.. no lag... I dont need data2ext scripts.. as there is engouh internal mem.. even in gameing no lag.. eg : asphalt, nfs, and other...mmmhh.. but im on stock rom @the moment 1. 05
Anyway.. also would like to see a sense 4 rom... Will look if i get some time free.. hope some other want work on that too.. maybe we can use the xe version.. and combine with kernel and hw drivers from sense 3. 6 (which allready work on our phones)...was a idea...
Also we can do some kernel optimations.. @the moment only for gb... So it would be nice again if we get official ics and also get the kernel as source...
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Well ics kernel source for xl should be out soon as official ics dropping soon. These so called lags for me are non existent and maybe some are expecting too much. Rosie was and will always be a memory hog and any widget can cause maybe a slight delay in transition. No roise is ever smooth no matter what is done to it.
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Well ics kernel source for xl should be out soon as official ics dropping soon. These so called lags for me are non existent and maybe some are expecting too much. Rosie was and will always be a memory hog and any widget can cause maybe a slight delay in transition. No roise is ever smooth no matter what is done to it.
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well, for the source yes...but for the lags...mmhh..i also have some lags...not big lags...but in compare to gb...ics is slower at the moment...but i think the official rom..as custom dont have it.. but yes true for rosie...but anyway...best launcher and best widgets...(we know how many third party software copy the style)
with kind regards
just downloaded...hope we get the official update soon...if so...one of all devs here should make a development thread...so we can speak together instead of each individually...so we can make ics sense 4 to work...there are also roms for desire hd out...but with things not working...we are in a better situation...we get a ics update...so we have original drivers...etc...so we should have a better start....
good to have custom recoverys...so we can do a nand backup...go back every time back to daily driver in testing
with kind regards
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we are in a better situation...we get a ics update...so we have original drivers...etc...so we should have a better start....
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DHD will have ICS update too
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DHD will have ICS update too
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lol... right...just readed thx
anyway...maybe a good idea
I think we need to compile all ICS and JB information in two threads here in XDA, I have read around in the forum but find it difficult to understad things. First I put several questions below to see if it can be answered so it clarifies the situation for the future of DHD.
1. A 3.0 kernel compatible to DHD seems to be available thanx to XDA comunity and not to HTC, is it done from Linux vanilla source then added 3rd party modules? Or is it all from an HTC built binary. If there are parts taken from HTC, which model has it been taken from? I know that Incredible S has almost exact hardware as DHD (like the camera) and it has an official ICS now.
2. What does it mean that we now have the 3.0 kernel really? Is it possible to use the ICS sense 4.0 with small adjustments?
3. How about JB? Is there any possibility to use the same kernel for JB? If so then does it mean that future JB releases of HTC could be ported to DHD?
Virtuos team have kernel 3.0 for htc primo.
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Virtuos team have kernel 3.0 for htc primo.
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Ok, thanx, does it mean that they have access to the source code and bult it themselves or just they have the binary? Building it yourself give you much more options, having the binary on the other hand would make it more difficult to improve, say if you would want to use it with JB.
does this mean we can have sense 4 with fully working cam and camcorder?
Matt
matthew33 said:
does this mean we can have sense 4 with fully working cam and camcorder?
Matt
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Yes. Just check Twitter @chrisch1974 - the guy is Virtuous Team developer, he posted screeshots of working camcorder (!) on Sense 4.0 rom on DHD. Tadah!
I've asked Chrisch (on Twitter) if the kernel he developed would be usefull for AOSP and AOKP roms be he haven't replied me yet.
Anyway – looking forward to show HTC middle finger (I'll record it on Sense 4.0 rom ).
HI Guyz,
I am not a dev. So please pardon me if i am wrong. When i visited a mobile shop to get a new mobile for my cousin,
1. I saw HTC Explorer , which in configuration is wayyyyyyy below desire. But i was awestruck with the smoothness of it. The appdrawer, swiping between homescreens, widgets etc. but i cannot have the same smoothness even with the official sense 1.9 ? Why is that ?
2. I saw HTC Desire C which is based on 600 MHz Cortex-A5. WTF. ? It has ICS. I can sense that ICS will be very laggy in the handset but my question is how this weak chipset has fully functional ICS and Sense 4.0 ? I still feel HTC Desire is very powerful and capable enough to run ICS. !!
Thanks,
Karthik
I'm running nikez ICS and it is very smooth - does not have sense though.
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karthikus said:
HI Guyz,
I am not a dev. So please pardon me if i am wrong. When i visited a mobile shop to get a new mobile for my cousin,
1. I saw HTC Explorer , which in configuration is wayyyyyyy below desire. But i was awestruck with the smoothness of it. The appdrawer, swiping between homescreens, widgets etc. but i cannot have the same smoothness even with the official sense 1.9 ? Why is that ?
2. I saw HTC Desire C which is based on 600 MHz Cortex-A5. WTF. ? It has ICS. I can sense that ICS will be very laggy in the handset but my question is how this weak chipset has fully functional ICS and Sense 4.0 ? I still feel HTC Desire is very powerful and capable enough to run ICS. !!
Thanks,
Karthik
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You could try to download desire c rom, change all "desire c" string to "desire" and see if it works...
lol, it's not so simple to port a rom, it's a different architecture of chip, different screen resolution, different drivers... etc etc...
Like if you run a game on a quadcore with full resolution and the same on a pentium4 with 640x480.. do you understand a little?
I think that the progress in ICS and JB is fantastitc, so appreciate the dev's work and don't pretend too much.
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You could try to download desire c rom, change all "desire c" string to "desire" and see if it works...
lol, it's not so simple to port a rom, it's a different architecture of chip, different screen resolution, different drivers... etc etc...
Like if you run a game on a quadcore with full resolution and the same on a pentium4 with 640x480.. do you understand a little?
I think that the progress in ICS and JB is fantastitc, so appreciate the dev's work and don't pretend too much.
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Thanks for your reply and please dont be obnoxious when you reply to someone. Its not that I doubt the devs. What i am trying to say is when a 600 mhz powered device can run ICS, why not ours (out of the box. just with minor tweaks) like transition from Froyo to GB. ?? I was totally upset to see ICS in Desire C rather than mine. I hope we will have fully functional ics/jb not without our excellent devs. !!
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Thanks for your reply and please dont be obnoxious when you reply to someone. Its not that I doubt the devs. What i am trying to say is when a 600 mhz powered device can run ICS, why not ours (out of the box. just with minor tweaks) like transition from Froyo to GB. ?? I was totally upset to see ICS in Desire C rather than mine. I hope we will have fully functional ics/jb not without our excellent devs. !!
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Ok, the fact is also that desire c has htc's drivers, our desire hwa was written from scratch by evervolv team, so it isn't an official released properly functioning.
It's correlated with the problem that cyanogenmod don't support it for cm9.
There are a few different ICS roms that work really well and smoothly for the Desire. BCM is based on CM9 but nikez rom and sandvolds rom are not. The only problem I have encountered is video playback issues which can be solved my using mx or rockplayer. Otherwise imo the desire ICS roms are quicker than GB. The devs have done a great job porting these to desire.
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There are a few different ICS roms that work really well and smoothly for the Desire. BCM is based on CM9 but nikez rom and sandvolds rom are not. The only problem I have encountered is video playback issues which can be solved my using mx or rockplayer. Otherwise imo the desire ICS roms are quicker than GB. The devs have done a great job porting these to desire.<br />
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Wait... I believe that who tried mildwild 4.3 can say that is quicker, faster (maybe not smoother) rom for desire. With the option of choosing where to put apk and data of each app (if in internal or ext) I can open frequently used app in a second, camera Miui app is perfect and it has no bugs. The only benefits that I saw in ICS was running heavy games with good frame rate (the same game is laggy in GB) and using 4.0+ apps. But so far I found ics and jb rom slower (repeat I mean opening apps and overall quickness). Btw the job by evervolv team and nikez is fantastic and I guess that JB development will go furrher and better than ics
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Well,I will go for ICS.I have observed better gameplay with it and better overall performance than gb
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Well,I will go for ICS.I have observed better gameplay with it and better overall performance than gb
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Yes, I noticed that too. But if I want to play GTA 3 the buttons disappear after a few seconds! Ive the 1.1 version, maybe this cause the problem?
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Yes, I noticed that too. But if I want to play GTA 3 the buttons disappear after a few seconds! Ive the 1.1 version, maybe this cause the problem?
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Yes.ICS in not completely developed yet and lots of modications are being made and may be the ics version you are using is a bit buggy.that can be a possible reason
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does flash player work in ics yet?
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Since Shaky stop developing his Sense 4.0 ROM, this side of the HTC desire development has stopped. The ROM, though in alpha, was working brilliantly well. Everything was smooth, and there were many thing working. Why did shaky stop? That build has so much potential. I really hope that he is still developing his rom in secret, so that he makes a "surprise stable full version" release.
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Since Shaky stop developing his Sense 4.0 ROM, this side of the HTC desire development has stopped. The ROM, though in alpha, was working brilliantly well. Everything was smooth, and there were many thing working. Why did shaky stop? That build has so much potential. I really hope that he is still developing his rom in secret, so that he makes a "surprise stable full version" release.
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He had a very good reason to stop - impatient noobs who didn't care to read his OP or even consider his numerous attempts to control the thread. So now you can find all those people who pushed him to the edge and don't be shy clicking thanks button on their posts as a way to thank them for their hard work
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Most of the good devs move to one x.
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I didn't even notice that Shaky deleted his XDA account. I'm a bit worried about him. What happened?
So, if shaky stopped developing, does that mean that the Desire will never get a full version of the 4.0 Sense, even if it can run it very smoothly?
Begging the devs won't help...
I want this port so much that I'm willing to take Linux classes and to port it myself.
Sooo, is any developer kind and willing enough to continue shaky's work? I know this sounds like begging, but many Desire users really want the 4.0 Sense.
To prevent noobish spamming, like shaky had, devs could just release a full version when it's done.
Please XDA Devs, make our dreams come true.
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but many Desire users really want the 4.0 Sense.
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I want to no longer be a Desire user.
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erklat said:
I want to no longer be a Desire user.
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I didn't say that erklat alone wants Sense 4.0 on the Desire
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I want to no longer be a Desire user.
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I hear you. I'll probably get a Nexus next time or the next flagship after One X. The intelligence level in this section got sucked out along with the good developers.
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I hear you. I'll probably get a Nexus next time or the next flagship after One X. The intelligence level in this section got sucked out along with the good developers.
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Thank you for being supportive. :|