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[face_palm] HTC Desire HD.

Well isn't this rumour fantastic news?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/15/rumored-htc-desire-hd-specs-surface-4-3-inch-screen-8-megapixe/

Afro Az said:
Well isn't this rumour fantastic news?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/15/rumored-htc-desire-hd-specs-surface-4-3-inch-screen-8-megapixe/
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October timeframe sounds about right. It doesn't sound like enough of an upgrade for me to worry about it, so I guess I'll skip that generation and wait for the next.
Regards,
Dave

damn aluminium body <3 shame about the too big screen, though it be prob possible to port some of the stuff from it to our desires

I just read that on another site and considering I just bought my Desire online yesterday (so it isn't here yet), it wasn't be best news item to read.
I didn't really want a 4.3" screen though (especially if it's pentile...), and while the aluminium body sounds great, none of the other changes are appealing enough to me to worry about.

I know it happens all the time in the tech world. But I hate the feeling I get when something newer and shinier comes out and I can't get it. Especially when its a "better" specced model of a phone I already own.
P.S I know the phone isn't out yet and is only a rumour, but don't you guys sometimes feel the same?

Think of it as the GSM, 3G-only, version of the EVO 4G that everyone has been asking for. The aluminum body addition is nice.

4.3" too big

I like this present device enough... don't need an upgrade until things improve considerably more, which I'm not expecting till March-June 2011. The only currently outstanding issue for me is memory space.
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It's not really too much of an upgrade. Better camera and in built memory. There will be better stuff to come than this for sure.

Looks like HD2 on steroids with Android. I suppose it will have LCD and if they manage to squeeze it in smaller body then HD2, but with bigger battery it would be great.

i think im gonna cry, simply better than the desire

Ah don't worry about it, it's not as if it's life and death is it.

theres always going to be something better coming out.
Get what you need, and not whats new on the streets

I was slightly underwhelmed to be honest...

Specs are great, everything is "desirable" apart from the size of the device as i personally think 4.3" screen is too big - owned the Touch HD2 but sold it for the Desire as it was too big for me, especially with a leather case
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cgrec92 said:
i think im gonna cry, simply better than the desire
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How is it better? Same processor, possibly similar RAM and most likely running Sense 2.1 or getting 2.2 at the same time as the current Desire. An aluminium body doesn't make a phone and more likely than not it will be in some sort if case anyway.
The rest of the specs are a natural evolution of things though that screen is getting close to tablet territory for me. I think the Desire is a great phone the way it is though a Hummingbird processor and PowerVR GPU would be certainly welcome.
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There's not really much in the way of specs increase though, same processor means it won't have increased performance...
More onboard storage is handy, but not as essential as it was thanks to apps2SD. A bigger screen without a resolution change doesn't really interest me, the Desire seems about the right size as it is. No interest in a slightly improved camera.
Pretty underwhelming for a 'Desire HD'.

Coming from a HD2 I am not jealous it has a bigger screen lol.. Only thing that would get me jealous was if it had 4G and a faster CPU, which it doesn't. Until then, it can have a bigger screen, 720p recording and what not, I couldn't really care less lol, we have custom roms with 720p recording anyway so that one is already irrelevant. I love my Desire so much more because it doesn't take my entire hand to use and because it just works like a phone should (Unlike HD2). Anyone who is thinking "oh crap I just got my Desire" you have an awesome phone. Enjoy it and stop worrying about new versions lol (Until a sort of EVO 4G comes out here, then ill join the club haha)

What i find to be so disappointing is that they aren't upgrading the CPU! I mean cmon HTC look at what Samsung and Motorola have coming out. Not to mention the fact that the Snapdragon's GPU is pretty poor compared to samsung/moto. The earlier rumors stated that the Ace would have a dual core @ 1.5Ghz, what happened to that?!?

SupremeBeaver said:
The earlier rumors stated that the Ace would have a dual core @ 1.5Ghz, what happened to that?!?
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I really can't see any benefit whatsoever in having a CPU with those sort of specs in a phone at the moment.
Regards,
Dave

[Q] Life expectancy of the One X

I know many of us are yet to recieve our phones but my girlfriend just asked me how long the One X will be considered a top of the range phone for. Will we see out the length of our contracts with it or will something else come along in the next year and trump it?
Discuss.

There's always something that will pop up that will be better. There's no possible way to see nothing better than the one x for two years.
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As always in the whole entertainment electronics industry it could be considered old, even tomorrow. That's the way it goes!
But why care about the future she should enjoy the device as most of us do!
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joschi1985 said:
As always in the whole entertainment electronics industry it could be considered old, even tomorrow. That's the way it goes!
But why care about the future she should enjoy the device as most of us do!
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Agreed. She isnt getting a one x anyway, she loves her DHD too much.

Well I've been reading up the Samsung s3 and its going to be on level par to the one x but its said the one x display will still be better than the s3 which isn't due out till end of the year and tbh I've had my dhd for 18 months and yet in all that time I've not found another phone that would interest me until now the one x is going to hold its ground for at least 12 months then start losing its thrill but I reckon it will be between the 12 month and 18month Mark where something else will be the next big thing.
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leith51 said:
Well I've been reading up the Samsung s3 and its going to be on level par to the one x but its said the one x display will still be better than the s3 which isn't due out till end of the year and tbh I've had my dhd for 18 months and yet in all that time I've not found another phone that would interest me until now the one x is going to hold its ground for at least 12 months then start losing its thrill but I reckon it will be between the 12 month and 18month Mark where something else will be the next big thing.
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Better is relative to your opinions
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Sinful Animosity said:
Better is relative to your opinions
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Of course they are my opinions and the 20+ people who I have spoke to
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JimmyEatFood said:
I know many of us are yet to recieve our phones but my girlfriend just asked me how long the One X will be considered a top of the range phone for. Will we see out the length of our contracts with it or will something else come along in the next year and trump it?
Discuss.
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Since 2010, HTC themselves have gone from the Desire >Desire HD >Sensation/SensationXE >One X. Even if you ignore the minor change in the sensation range, that's four new flagship phones in less than two years.
You can bet your bottom dollar that the One X will be trumped before the year is out, but that's just the way the market is (if it wasn't, the One X probably wouldn't exist today).
All you can do is pick the phone that's right for you and enjoy it while you can. There will always be something else around the corner.
That's just my opinion of course
Bugsy

leith51 said:
Of course they are my opinions and the 20+ people who I have spoke to
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I'm just saying, you have no idea. You seem to be predisposed to HTC, so you probably favor the one x. S3 isn't even out yet, so I have no idea how you can judge by specs.
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As with any electronics, just get the best that you can afford at the time you want it. That's really all anyone can do. New models of phone, TV, HiFi, etc are out all the time, no question HTC will have a new 'flagship' model out within 12 months from previous track record.
My reasoning for getting the HTC One X is that my Desire that I bought 2 yr ago has held up pretty well until recently, also thanks to good ROM support here. The fact that this is a Tegra 3 phone and also that I had good experience with my previous HTC phone helped the decision that it should last fairly well.
Other phones such as GS3 might have some things slightly better/worse but I don't expect it to be night/day differences.

I would not be surprised if the Galaxy s3 processor doubled many of the ONE's benchmarks. So what? In the real world it will make little difference.
For at least the next year, both phones will still be much faster than 70% of other androids and both will run everything as smoothly as an iPhone. The processors in both the ONE and the S3 will in 2 years time be 5 or 10 times slower than the latest processors, but the difference in user experience will be trivial. Both will still run buttery smooth because the demands of android will not increase at anything like the same rate.
There will also be many more wifi hotspots to compensate for the lack of 4g and many apps will use cloud servers rather than the phone for processing. This will make benchmarks matter even less. In other words, by 2014 the ONE and S3 will look obsolete in terms of benchmarks but will still work really well for all the tasks they currently perform.
By 2014, both will be struggling with some games. More importantly, they will be lacking the new killer features from 2013 and 2014 such as 4g, light field camera, desktop mode, and built in Google TV. These will remain on the drawing board throughout 2012 but may become premium features by 2014. They will require new hardware components that probably wont be found in any phone that is built in 2012.
This is the bottom line: the ONE will not become obsolete due to any lack of processing power or benchmarks (which is all that the S3 will challenge it on) but rather to the lack of new features that are still in the development phase but will eventually require new and additional hardware components that neither the ONE or S3 have.

HTC changed their approach this year, dont think they will release anything else other than special editions of these. Maybe chuck Beats headphones in the box and give it a different lick of paint.
They want to rebuild the brand, get it plugging higher numbers again. Im just surprised they opted for different CPUs either side of the world, strange marketing move that one. They should have just stuck to Tegra 3 and plugged the gaming support or something.

Arthur Hucksake said:
HTC changed their approach this year, dont think they will release anything else other than special editions of these. Maybe chuck Beats headphones in the box and give it a different lick of paint.
They want to rebuild the brand, get it plugging higher numbers again. Im just surprised they opted for different CPUs either side of the world, strange marketing move that one. They should have just stuck to Tegra 3 and plugged the gaming support or something.
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Except Tegra3 can't handle 4G without a separate radio (which kills the battery). Hence S4 for the LTE/4G versions, and Tegra3 elsewhere since quad core sounds better
Real world, both processors are near enough to equally capable, with each excelling in particular areas.
M.

Arthur Hucksake said:
HTC changed their approach this year, dont think they will release anything else other than special editions of these. Maybe chuck Beats headphones in the box and give it a different lick of paint.
They want to rebuild the brand, get it plugging higher numbers again. Im just surprised they opted for different CPUs either side of the world, strange marketing move that one. They should have just stuck to Tegra 3 and plugged the gaming support or something.
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Krait supports LTE, which is only used in the US.
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It really is dependent on what you consider a long life expectancy. I'm still using my HD2 and love the fact that I can flash so many different OS's and Roms to it. Lets be honest and HD2 with a good ROM and a huge/fast SD card gives the Sensation a run for it's money.
The One X will be one of those phones that will hold it's ground for years to come because of its raw power (although 1GB of RAM really?? ya could have upped it for a brother).

Kinda confused how some of you are saying the SGSIII is going to have a worse screen etc.....and I highly doubt they are going to wait until the end of the year to release it. Would be shooting themselves in the foot. Not like Apple where if they don't release something, they'll be fine for a while. Everything is pointing to a release soon, it's in carrier testing in korea already. Plus, they want to get in on the marketing opportunity of the London Olympics which is going to be huge for promoting the phone and getting the worlds attention.
It's also rumored to have the SAMOLED HD Plus so idk how you know the One X screen is going to be better along with 20+ of people you've asked, they haven't even seen it yet.
As for phone longevity. The One X will certainly become overtaken by other phones by the end of this year. There is so much competition within Android, though we already know the few top handset makers; HTC, Samsung, Motorola, etc...The user experience will still be fine, though battery is my worry. Non-removable and with phones like the Razr Maxx getting absolutely stunning battery life, I can only see other flagship handsets coming with gigantic batteries also while keeping the slim profile. I mean, the phone is already unibody and theres no cover....why not just put a bigger battery in there?
If you want the phone and like it, just buy it and enjoy it until you feel ready to upgrade. I'd personally opt for Krait because Tegra 3 is running on a generation old architecture, but thats my opinion.

pewpewbangbang said:
Kinda confused how some of you are saying the SGSIII is going to have a worse screen etc.....and I highly doubt they are going to wait until the end of the year to release it. Would be shooting themselves in the foot. Not like Apple where if they don't release something, they'll be fine for a while. Everything is pointing to a release soon, it's in carrier testing in korea already. Plus, they want to get in on the marketing opportunity of the London Olympics which is going to be huge for promoting the phone and getting the worlds attention.
It's also rumored to have the SAMOLED HD Plus so idk how you know the One X screen is going to be better along with 20+ of people you've asked, they haven't even seen it yet.
As for phone longevity. The One X will certainly become overtaken by other phones by the end of this year. There is so much competition within Android, though we already know the few top handset makers; HTC, Samsung, Motorola, etc...The user experience will still be fine, though battery is my worry. Non-removable and with phones like the Razr Maxx getting absolutely stunning battery life, I can only see other flagship handsets coming with gigantic batteries also while keeping the slim profile. I mean, the phone is already unibody and theres no cover....why not just put a bigger battery in there?
If you want the phone and like it, just buy it and enjoy it until you feel ready to upgrade. I'd personally opt for Krait because Tegra 3 is running on a generation old architecture, but thats my opinion.
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You're obviously a Samsung fan. Stop trolling the forum, take your dispute elsewhere this is not a 4th grade debate forum

F4M0U569 said:
You're obviously a Samsung fan. Stop trolling the forum, take your dispute elsewhere this is not a 4th grade debate forum
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Your clearly dumb and ignorant.
I'm stating facts......if it was the other way around and Samsung came out with the SGSIII already while everyone is talking about One X rumors, would you say the One X is going to come out the end of this year close to christmas??
Thats nearly a 2 year phone life cycle.
And what if they were saying OMG SAMOLED HD Plus is so much better than the One X screen when the One X hasn't even been released yet?? Wth do you say to that? Oh your just a fanboy, stop trolling the forums....this isn't a 4th grade debate.
I'm replying to the HTC fan troll how about that?
Maybe make some reasonable arguments and posts. Instead of just calling other people trolls. I didn't even say anything that made me sound like a Samsung fanboy, and thats because I'm not. I look at the specs, the facts, and base decisions around that.
The One X is good, but the One XL is better IMO. Tegra 3 is running four cortex-A9 cores built on the 40-45nm fabrication process. It's the same cores being used since the HTC Sensation and SGSII.
Look at Krait, running a brand new architecture built on the 28nm fabrication process. That's a pretty big gap, and it's showing in most of the benchmarks (though benchmarks should be taken with a grain of salt, they're a good hint at relative performance). 28nm fabrication means, less heat, less energy, while keeping about the same level of performance. But Krait has more pipelines etc...resulting in it being much faster than the Snapdragon S3.
Don't just go around calling people trolls, you sound like the 4th grader.

Sinful Animosity said:
I'm just saying, you have no idea. You seem to be predisposed to HTC, so you probably favor the one x. S3 isn't even out yet, so I have no idea how you can judge by specs.
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I have no idea!!! How rude more like you don't have a clue do you have any idea what phones have passed through my hands Erm no so maybe you should be quiet
Phone list
Htc desire hd(current phone)
Samsung galaxy s2
Sony xpreia s
IPhone 4s and 4
LG 3d
Just to name a few
As for the s3 its called trawling the net and doing research try it sometime you may find relevant information like I did before you start posting someone you know nothing about
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pewpewbangbang said:
nonsense
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Sir, I have deemed your comment to stupid to actually bother replying due to idiotic and senseless babbling.

will the one x get better in time

reason i ask i am due for a update next week and although i love the display on the one x the nexus seems to beat the one x in a lot of the comparisons
it runs smoother
better battery life
better camera
changeable battery
etc
etc
i feel most apps using the full power of the one x could be more than a few years away (longer than the contract anyway)
now i really want the answer to be yes. I am totally undecided what to do

Any phone gets better over time
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Short answer,
Hardware: Yes
Software: Yes
Long answer,
Hardware: HTC is getting enough PR about One X faults right now that they'll most likely at least quietly tweak the manufacturing process. If the PR gets louder, they may come clean, but that is unlikely unless issues are extremely widespread.
Software: Every single phone get's better firmware/OS over time, happens with most technology related products. The development forums are already fairly active, they'll be packed in 6 months time.
HTC have done themselves no favour by releasing a ridiculously embarrassing firmware (any firmware from a massive corporation where a main app/driver related to power is in the wrong folder is simply unforgivable). The hardware side of things looks to be disappointing, early adopters are always in my mind real testers, as these days so many flaws seem to escape Q&A, some of which you'd wonder if a phone was even tested. However the hardware flaws don't seem to yet fall under a category of anything out of the ordinary for a new product launch these days.

i remember this happened with original desire and it got better so answer is yes it will
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shedboy79 said:
it runs smoother
better battery life
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For now. Give it a week or two (Or sooner, depending on when HTC release their first few OTAs and/or custom roms start rolling in)
better camera
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Don't know where you're getting this from. The One X has a better camera than any other Android phone currently available on the market.
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Can't argue with that but I've never once had battery life so poor on a phone that I needed to carry around a second battery.
i feel most apps using the full power of the one x could be more than a few years away (longer than the contract anyway)
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Hardware changes rapidly and so does software. People were saying the exact same thing about dual core / quad core on computers and now it's at the point where most new applications *need* multicore CPUs in order to function.

My honest opinion would be that the nexus doesnt really beat it now and if you got that, within 6 months you would be regretting it as the nexus would be lagging behind specs wise.
To me the battery life seems to depend on the person. I came from the Galaxy S2 and the HTC beats it hands down, some people are reporting otherwise.
As for better camera, the HTC`s is probably the best on the market at the minute.

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reason i ask i am due for a update next week and although i love the display on the one x the nexus seems to beat the one x in a lot of the comparisons
it runs smoother
better battery life
better camera
changeable battery
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etc
i feel most apps using the full power of the one x could be more than a few years away (longer than the contract anyway)
now i really want the answer to be yes. I am totally undecided what to do
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LMAO
Galaxy nexus is not smoother, even though HTC isn't completely smooth when running large widgits. (Run a live wallpaper on the Galaxy Nexus and watch it crumble to its knees due to its very poor GPU)
Better camera? - you cannot be serious!
Better battery life? - the galaxy nexus doesn't even stack up to the SGS2 regarding battery life, & I've done many personal battery tests comparing to my SGS2 , and the HTC ONe X has a better battery life (even with 1.26) when compared to the SGS2.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-ga...y-tested-results-come-out-disappointing-test/
I have absolutely no idea were your getting your conclusions from,

diggedy said:
My honest opinion would be that the nexus doesnt really beat it now and if you got that, within 6 months you would be regretting it as the nexus would be lagging behind specs wise.
To me the battery life seems to depend on the person. I came from the Galaxy S2 and the HTC beats it hands down, some people are reporting otherwise.
As for better camera, the HTC`s is probably the best on the market at the minute.
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just about every comparison i have seen the camera gets beaten by a lot of phones on the market.. Hardly seen one that says x one is the best.
But its what the real people say not the reviewers.
Thanks for the advice peeps, still swaying towards the one x even though the reviews have not been as good as expected.

There will be light at the end of the tunnel...
shedboy,
All phones will have a period to iron out the bugs and glitches. If your an early adopter than you will be a tester for HTC as I am for sure they read XDA for user experience. In 3-6 months time, new firmware will bring the HOX to a stable state. Patience wil get you a long way...

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shedboy,
All phones will have a period to iron out the bugs and glitches. If your an early adopter than you will be a tester for HTC as I am for sure they read XDA for user experience. In 3-6 months time, new firmware will bring the HOX to a stable state. Patience wil get you a long way...
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Thanks for that, it makes sence.
Just want to be really sure, after all i will have it for 2 years. I am coming from a desire.
How the hell can HTC mess up by putting the battery file in the wrong folder ? its dose not fill me up with confidence .

When you get a device at when it releases you're tend to have bugs but since HTC giving so much importance to One series you can see lot of updates happening over time. I'm sure HTC is capable of bring a really stable firmware in future. When I say future I mean maybe in 3 or 4 months.
Regular apps doesn't need Quad Core but new generation games do. nVidia is already making Game developers to design games that take advantage of the Quad Core so it's not in future it has already started. We have a strong hardware we just need some work on drivers and firmware which is fixable.

shedboy79 said:
reason i ask i am due for a update next week and although i love the display on the one x the nexus seems to beat the one x in a lot of the comparisons
it runs smoother
better battery life
better camera
changeable battery
etc
etc
i feel most apps using the full power of the one x could be more than a few years away (longer than the contract anyway)
now i really want the answer to be yes. I am totally undecided what to do
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Where on earth did you get this information from? It's all wrong!
I upgraded from the Nexus to the One X and the One X is better in every way.
Seriously, the Nexus's camera is absolutely terrible, the stock firmware is laggy and the battery life sucks. It also feels cheap and the back battery cover is really flimsy. The only goood thing about it is that it's a "Nexus" device, so dev support is very good for it.
No offense, but you'd have to be incredibly stupid to get the Nexus.
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Meltus said:
Where on earth did you get this information from? It's all wrong!
I upgraded from the Nexus to the One X and the One X is better in every way.
Seriously, the Nexus's camera is absolutely terrible, the stock firmware is laggy and the battery life sucks. It also feels cheap and the back battery cover is really flimsy. The only goood thing about it is that it's a "Nexus" device, so dev support is very good for it.
No offense, but you'd have to be incredibly stupid to get the Nexus.
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lol thanks for your advice
i simply Google htc x v nexus and 3 of the videos i watched the nexus came out on top.
anyway. i have decided. HTC one x for me Just have to wait until the 17th

Probably Yes, and the devs at XDA will surely find a way to make it perform better.
But now, Software wise The Galaxy Nexus is still better than the One X. It performs better in almost all software aspects. Since it was the device ICS was specifically designed for.
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I would say definitaly!

I've had both. If the one x is kept up to date by HTC which I expect it will. The one x is MUCH better hardware wise. Sense took some getting used to but u can always root and stick a special Rom and stay more up to date that way if HTC falls by the way side. This phone is beautiful in every way. My favorite part is the way the front glass is smooth all the way to the edge of the phone. If you rub your hands across it u get this buttery smooth feel to it and its the only phone like it. They did a wonderful job making it feel like such a premium device.
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Thinking of jumping ship?

So, had the One X since release date, always had HTC before this. But after having all the issues that have been described here on xda, I spoke to my network (3 uk) and they have said that so long as its within 28 days of the 4/4/12 that they will either replace it for a new one or any other model that they stock.
Now, I'm a flashaholic. I do not want to use the HTC unlock method, always relied on the very clever peeps here for "alternative" ways of s-off. But as it seems the biggest team of Revolutionary aren't working on the One X. I'm considering leaving the HTC brand and moving to the Galaxy Note?
Have any of you guys left the note to come here? It looks the part on paper at least?
Anyone else from 3 UK willing to take the plunge if the offer was sat there?
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I think you shouldn't switch to the Note...
Sooner or later there will be a S-OFF tool.
The NOte is IMO too big, but that's your decision. The other reasons why I dodn't get the note:
- DPI is not as high
- the PenTile thing, this means the display has 33% red and blue subpixels. some people don't notice, but I do: there's not a single straight line. it appears as if every other row of pixels was shifted by 0.5 pixels; I just can't stand it.
I highly recommend you to check if that's a problem for you before getting it. Just saying
P.S: Even though the One X isn't perfect, it's the phone the closest to perfect I ever had.

Iff i waz you id go for Gnexus over note the note is ridiculously big my sister has it as a work phone
Mod or Die

see the thing is i am on Three UK as well. and i had the choice for my two replacements i had so far to go for a different handset. and both times i got close going for the gnexus. now all this hype about quadcore for me i am sorry i really did not notice it so far with the HTC one x...yeah apps load faster than ever but 50% of the apps stuck in loading phase...anyways still a great phone i say and i am more than likely to stick with it because i am really liking stock Sense now
but i do miss overclocking and undervolting and also using an AOKP rom...tough decisions to make one thing i do hate about this phone is though why HTC locked the bootloader..why not just unlock it..
Note no way man stay clear of that huge thing..no no no

Hmmmm? Thanks for the replies folks. As for the size issue (that's what she said!) Im not thay concerned, saying that I've never held one! But I currently have a Advent Vega, that if the Note could replace might be a good thing? Kinda streamline my tech, save me carrying 2 devices?
But aswell as a flashaholic, I'm a sucker for POWER! 1.5ghz quad core vs 1.4ghz dual core? I feel in a real dilemma, I love HTC, always have, but the ONE X has, so far, let me down.
@Dobbi, I will look into the red/blue pixel issue, I have now been spoilt by the quality of the one x screen! It is nice.
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x5starguerillaa said:
Hmmmm? Thanks for the replies folks. As for the size issue (that's what she said!) Im not thay concerned, saying that I've never held one! But I currently have a Advent Vega, that if the Note could replace might be a good thing? Kinda streamline my tech, save me carrying 2 devices?
But aswell as a flashaholic, I'm a sucker for POWER! 1.5ghz quad core vs 1.4ghz dual core? I feel in a real dilemma, I love HTC, always have, but the ONE X has, so far, let me down.
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all honesty mate...it is like cameras..more megapixels does not mean you are going to get better picture. same with the quadcores..so far i would say and yes i know i might get flamed for this my s2 dual core felt bit more snappier at times compare to the one x. so if you are really a flashaholic then maybe the phone to go for is the gnexus...the development for that phone is crazy...but at this moment of time i still will go as to say i will stick with the one x..this must be the longest time i gone without flashing

In all honesty too........my Sensation felt better than my One X.
Please don't go mad at me people. I not a massive sense fan, so that was always the first thing that went once s-off was achieved and all the roms about seem to be sense based or desensed. Not AOSP. I respect all our Devs massively and I am not clever enough or do I have time enough to even begin to learn how to build roms from the ground up using AOSP. But even the sensation was lacking in these roms.
Oh man. I may have to have a long hard think about if I'm ready to leave HTC.
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Note is excellent don't let anyone put you off it, I've played with it many times and the size is a sweet spot. I've had the S2 before the HOX and don't find the HOX that much of a jump in size. It's nice the 4.7" but the 5.3" of the note gives you some more real estate.
You get use to the size after a while.
I'm holding ship with the HOX for the time being the only phone that can sway me away will be the SGS3 only if it excels the HOX but for me it'll be down to the software side and not hardware. Sense > TouchWiz.

I'm in a similar situation only that I've not ordered my HOX yet and I'm coming from a Galaxy Nexus. My biggest issue is to be frank all the problems you guys seem to be having with the htc , i dont care what people say you should NOT be having these sort of issues with a final retail handset. I jumped to samsung with the galaxy s2 after years of htc handset (android & wm) and looking back I'm glad I did. How can anyone defend this locked bootloader policy? seems like the days of simply plugging the phone in and flashing straight from the box are gone for htc which brings me onto samsung.... everything is geared towards flashing there phones, hell Ive even got a £2 clip which unbricks your samsung should anything go wrong With all that said I always a space in my heart for htc just a shame this whole mess may have put me off this time round.
Come next week when I can upgrade I'm 90% sure I'll order the samsung note partly for the reasons above and partly because it is such a sweet device despite the PenTile display which is not noticeable, trust me
oh and dont go for the gnexus if you use any games what so ever the gpu is crap and the main reason I switching (missing my psx gaming fun)

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I'm in a similar situation only that I've not ordered my HOX yet and I'm coming from a Galaxy Nexus. My biggest issue is to be frank all the problems you guys seem to be having with the htc , i dont care what people say you should NOT be having these sort of issues with a final retail handset. I jumped to samsung with the galaxy s2 after years of htc handset (android & wm) and looking back I'm glad I did. How can anyone defend this locked bootloader policy? seems like the days of simply plugging the phone in and flashing straight from the box are gone for htc which brings me onto samsung.... everything is geared towards flashing there phones, hell Ive even got a £2 clip which unbricks your samsung should anything go wrong With all that said I always a space in my heart for htc just a shame this whole mess may have put me off this time round.
Come next week when I can upgrade I'm 90% sure I'll order the samsung note partly for the reasons above and partly because it is such a sweet device despite the PenTile display which is not noticeable, trust me
oh and dont go for the gnexus if you use any games what so ever the gpu is crap and the main reason I switching (missing my psx gaming fun)
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so you saying the nexus is not worth swapping this one for then?

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so you saying the nexus is not worth swapping this one for then?
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No way mate ..... dont get me wrong the nexus is very nice and there's more custom roms than you can shake a stick at but the camera is well.... **** and the gpu is shameful I found games really struggle to the point i dont bother now as much pity really .........

I game on my gnex and it doesnt lag??? And the camera is decent aswell especialy video www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePfy25sS0Yo&feature=player_embedded
And at the min gaming on the ox isnt awesome YET just see the genral section thread created already

Best thing to do is go to a shop and test the devices and decide.
Mod or Die

well i am sticking with my htc one x for now...the more i hold it the more i am falling in love with it....it was the same when i had my galaxy s2..was scared to root it in the start but once it was done i could not stop flashing..same with the HOX. once i get my grey replacement that would be it for me...hate it or love it this phone does grow on you and no matter what flaws i still would recommend it

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I game on my gnex and it doesnt lag??? And the camera is decent aswell especialy video www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePfy25sS0Yo&feature=player_embedded
And at the min gaming on the ox isnt awesome YET just see the genral section thread created already
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What about GTA for starters? Id say anything thats abit better than the norm and your screwed :/

Right. I'm going to go into the 3 store to play with a galaxy note, along side my One X and compare them in real life usage tomorrow.
Real life usage, not stats on paper, not benchmarks, just what feels best. C'mon HTC don't fail me after 4 years of brand dedication.
Report back tomorrow peeps.
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Let me know how that goes. If my One X replacement still has issues I might swap for a Note too.

I've used both nexus and note. Of the two the note is far better. After a day, the size is no issue. Plus the screen looks great, battery from what I've seen is good, but there is noticeable scrolling lag when compared to the one x.
That being said, the slight lag is not bad enough to deter someone. My dad loves his note
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Galaxy note or Gnexus..

x5starguerillaa said:
Right. I'm going to go into the 3 store to play with a galaxy note, along side my One X and compare them in real life usage tomorrow.
Real life usage, not stats on paper, not benchmarks, just what feels best. C'mon HTC don't fail me after 4 years of brand dedication.
Report back tomorrow peeps.
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Isn't the Note still running Gingerbread. So performance might not be as smooth as iCS.
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Should I get a one x ?

Hey guys ..... Just wanna take your advice about the one x ,since I want to get one...but want it to be as I want ....
1.does it lag ?? That's the most thing that pisses me off..
2.how's the battery??does it drain quickly ?
3.are games fast ?
Thanks in advance

donhashem.dh said:
Hey guys ..... Just wanna take your advice about the one x ,since I want to get one...but want it to be as I want ....
1.does it lag ?? That's the most thing that pisses me off..
2.how's the battery??does it drain quickly ?
3.are games fast ?
Thanks in advance
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1- you've never seen something faster than this
2- it depends on the usage
3-yes, it is good to play
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1.does it lag ?? That's the most thing that pisses me off..
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In stock ICS, yes. Apparently it's better (gone??) in JB, but I haven't got my update yet, so can't comment.
2.how's the battery??does it drain quickly ?
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Average. The standby (or sleeping) power consumption is really good, and things like browsing the Web and listening to music are pretty good too, but CPU intensive tasks can really drain the battery. I fairly easily get a whole day out of it with moderate to heavy usage.
3.are games fast ?
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My HOX is still pretty new, but yes, I think so. It's handled everything well so far.
Thanks in advance
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No problem.
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If your budget is big enough, I might advice you to look for the improved version of the phone, One X+ that is. It comes with JB, a faster processor and bigger storage (64GB). If budget is limited then get the One X. You can take a look at the Nexus 4 too and see if you like it or not, it depends on what you need.
Not trying to keep you from the One X or anything, its a great phone and its been working fine for me for the past 7 months and can definitely last more than 2 years. I'm just telling you to check the market for all the options so you are 100% confident with your decision.
Sent from my Paranoid Android.

donhashem.dh said:
Hey guys ..... Just wanna take your advice about the one x ,since I want to get one...but want it to be as I want ....
1.does it lag ?? That's the most thing that pisses me off..
2.how's the battery??does it drain quickly ?
3.are games fast ?
Thanks in advance
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1. I found that on stock ICS, the One X did lag sometimes when multiple apps were open. If you are willing to flash a custom ROM, or when the stock Jelly Bean update is installed, it should have no lag because of project butter. I am on the CyanogenMod 10 ROM and it is lightning fast, and I have never noticed any lag at all.
2. The battery depends on the usage of the phone. I have found that after a usual day of usage, I have about 25-35% battery left, and this includes using power-hungry games.
3. Yes, the games are insanely fast, due to the Tegra 3 processor. Nvidia have a really strong background in gaming (due to all of their PC GPU's), and this really shows when playing any game.
Hope this helps

Defo get one root it and get ARHD on it , smooth as with zero lag

IMO, if you can afford it, go for the One X+ instead of the One X. That bigger battery is really something to consider however, I see no big difference apart from that (better GPU and higher CPU/GPU clocks are no big deal IMO). If you can't afford it or if you find the extras on the One X+ no big deal, get the One X w/o a moment's hesitation

Why is anybody still looking at a device with the locked down misery the is HTC bootloader when a Nexus 4 is better in just about every way and costs less?

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Why is anybody still looking at a device with the locked down misery the is HTC bootloader when a Nexus 4 is better in just about every way and costs less?
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Because the Nexus 4 has a much cheaper build quality, has glass on both sides which makes it more prone to smashing (Gorilla Glass 2 isn't unbreakable) and HTC Sense is really good for consumers that will keep the phone as it is (Sense does have a lot of great features), not to mention the worst fact that there are no capacitive buttons on the Nexus 4, which means that screen real estate is taken up by the on-screen buttons. Also, in my opinion, the device looks ugly, especially on the back with that awful looking camera and the weird sparkly effect.
Still, I do think that the wireless charging is really cool, and I can see why people buy the nexus devices to get stock android immediately. I also realise that it feels cheaper because it is cheaper.
I just think that the negatives of the Nexus 4, and the positives of the One X make the One X a much better phone, and if you want an unlocked bootloader, if you go to htcdev.com, they could not have made it simpler to do.

I just got my HTC One X last week.
I got it because I was really tired of the lag of my HTC Sensation XE (1.5 GHz Dual Core with 780+ MB of RAM).
I loaded all my previous apps on the One X (so I would have a fair comparison), I can tell you there is a HUGE difference in speed. It was really much more than I hoped for. The One X is very much faster and task switching is immediate.
Opening/browsing/closing the Google Play was a real pain on the Sensation XE, but on the One X it's really smooth and satisfying.
For the battery, it's about the same of my Sensation XE. But considering the One X has a bigger screen and a quad core, I was happy with the battery life (I was expecting a shorter battery life). I have the data on all day long (3G only, HSDA network) with many apps syncing and moderate usage (including watching youtube), I can survive a full day easily (7 AM - 12 midnight).
For games, I don't play games so I can't tell.
Hope this helps.
Edit: Forgot to mention that I'm still on ICS, as Jelly Bean is not out yet for my region. My old Sensation XE was on ICS too.
Also, my HTC One X is all stock, no roots or custom ROM. So if you want more speed (although I don't see why) you can put a stock JB ROM and other users say it will get smoother.
After more days spent with my new phone, still can say that I am in love with my One X.

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Because the Nexus 4 has a much cheaper build quality, has glass on both sides which makes it more prone to smashing (Gorilla Glass 2 isn't unbreakable) and HTC Sense is really good for consumers that will keep the phone as it is (Sense does have a lot of great features), not to mention the worst fact that there are no capacitive buttons on the Nexus 4, which means that screen real estate is taken up by the on-screen buttons. Also, in my opinion, the device looks ugly, especially on the back with that awful looking camera and the weird sparkly effect.
Still, I do think that the wireless charging is really cool, and I can see why people buy the nexus devices to get stock android immediately. I also realise that it feels cheaper because it is cheaper.
I just think that the negatives of the Nexus 4, and the positives of the One X make the One X a much better phone, and if you want an unlocked bootloader, if you go to htcdev.com, they could not have made it simpler to do.
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I think you have some good points, however I have both right next to me at the moment. I wouldn't say that either has better build quality. They're very different design philosophies. If you like the feel of the iphone 4s then the nexus will be better but if you like the lumia polycarbonate style then the one x for sure. For me I prefer the nexus simply because it makes it feel more like a grown ups phone as opposed to a toy so much.
Otherwise it's pretty night and day in terms of usability. The nexus 4 is a lot quicker and smoother and cooler. The one x does win on screen and camera though.
OP if you don't like lag this is a no brainer, the nexus is much better.
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Havoc2510 said:
Because the Nexus 4 has a much cheaper build quality, has glass on both sides which makes it more prone to smashing (Gorilla Glass 2 isn't unbreakable) and HTC Sense is really good for consumers that will keep the phone as it is (Sense does have a lot of great features), not to mention the worst fact that there are no capacitive buttons on the Nexus 4, which means that screen real estate is taken up by the on-screen buttons. Also, in my opinion, the device looks ugly, especially on the back with that awful looking camera and the weird sparkly effect.
Still, I do think that the wireless charging is really cool, and I can see why people buy the nexus devices to get stock android immediately. I also realise that it feels cheaper because it is cheaper.
I just think that the negatives of the Nexus 4, and the positives of the One X make the One X a much better phone, and if you want an unlocked bootloader, if you go to htcdev.com, they could not have made it simpler to do.
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Haha, just make sure you don't get an operator branded phone or be unlucky enough to get one with an uncommon CID, yes. But you've still got a device manufacturer telling YOU what YOU can do with the device YOU own. Which sucks.
If the HOX is so much better than the Nexus 4, then you'll have to show me the fields of people waiting to swap my immaculate HOX for one. I suspect they don't exist though.
Yes, different things appeal to different people, and the industrial design of the HOX is nice, but I suspect from what I've read the N4 could not really be considered to have 'inferior build quality'. I don't even like the idea of a dual-faced glass device, but I'd still have one to get that device at that price. Either way, given that the N4 should be just over half the price, there's simply no competition.

HTC One X or Nexus 7?
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Haha, just make sure you don't get an operator branded phone or be unlucky enough to get one with an uncommon CID, yes. But you've still got a device manufacturer telling YOU what YOU can do with the device YOU own. Which sucks.
If the HOX is so much better than the Nexus 4, then you'll have to show me the fields of people waiting to swap my immaculate HOX for one. I suspect they don't exist though.
Yes, different things appeal to different people, and the industrial design of the HOX is nice, but I suspect from what I've read the N4 could not really be considered to have 'inferior build quality'. I don't even like the idea of a dual-faced glass device, but I'd still have one to get that device at that price. Either way, given that the N4 should be just over half the price, there's simply no competition.
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Fair play, but if you read what you said again, you said:
'If the HOX is so much better than the Nexus 4, then you'll have to show me the fields of people waiting to swap my immaculate HOX for one. I suspect they don't exist though'
That just practically means that no-one is swapping a One X for a Nexus 4. Well done :laugh:
And in response to 'letom', I do like the Nexus 4, and the price together with the fresh OS is why a lot of people would choose to buy one. I'm just saying that if I had no phone again and I had to buy one, I would still probably get the One X. I just like the premium feel and the screens on HTC phones are unbeatable (I also really like the camera). And yes, running Sense and with all the apps that HTC forces upon you (like 7Digital), it is more laggy than the Nexus 4. All you have to do is root it and install CM10, and they both have zero lag.
And I think we can all agree, Android > iOS anyday
Actually no, if I had no phone, I would wait for the HTC M7 (rumoured to launch Q1 2013). The Droid DNA is just the warm-up phone in the build up to the M7. Although, it is still all rumours at the moment so we probably won't see or hear about it until MWC 2013.

The problem is I bet you the new HTC still won't be as smooth as the nexus 4. I have jelly Bean on my one x right now, and yes it's smooth but it's not up there with how smooth the nexus is. Look at the reviews of the DNA they're saying it's still bogged down by sense. You should only be getting a HTC phone is you like sense, and live by it.
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No, just don't haha