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Live Tile Debacle

So, I finally hit my first problem, and I think I have T-Mobile to blame. A couple of days ago, TMo had massive issues here in Miami. The phones were reading you had full 3G signal, but the moment you even tapped on the phones, the signal dropped and died for about an hour at a time. Ever since then, none of my livetiles which use background agents as opposed to push have updated (with the exception of WeatherLive, but the backside won't update). I can tell when this began happening because of the last timestamp stuck on the tile. I've tried everything from uninstalling, to killing the tasks in the settings or app, everything. Won't update over WiFi either. I really don't want to experiment here and hard reset, so have any of you had your non-push tiles
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Might sound obvious but you have tried a restart?

brummiesteven said:
Might sound obvious but you have tried a restart?
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Multiple restarts, battery pulls, I've turned every connection on and off, uninstalled and reinstalled every app, forced off the agents in settings and turned them back on, turned them off/on from within the app, etc...
I'm 99.9% positive that the issue T-Mobile had caused this, I mean, it was bad. It caused my girlfriend's myTouch4G to run out of battery in an hour and 45 minutes.... I'm assuming because it was probably hammering to get a signal. I'm pretty sure we have other Miami users here who can tell you how bad it was. But, now NONE will update, unless the app updates when I open it, and it's really, really starting to piss me off.

FiyaFleye said:
Multiple restarts, battery pulls, I've turned every connection on and off, uninstalled and reinstalled every app, forced off the agents in settings and turned them back on, turned them off/on from within the app, etc...
I'm 99.9% positive that the issue T-Mobile had caused this, I mean, it was bad. It caused my girlfriend's myTouch4G to run out of battery in an hour and 45 minutes.... I'm assuming because it was probably hammering to get a signal. I'm pretty sure we have other Miami users here who can tell you how bad it was. But, now NONE will update, unless the app updates when I open it, and it's really, really starting to piss me off.
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Could mean there's still an outage in your are? I recently had a tower problem for two months and who knows how much longer had I not noticed the drop in data speeds. Anyways, during that time when it was dropping in between EVDO and 1X, certain apps of mine wouldn't update because it'd take forever to pull the data or it'd time out.
So while call wise you're okay, data wise you might be outta luck? I'd call T-Mo and ask.

Something went wrong because everyone calling me went straight to voicemail....

It sounds like something during the network outage may have caused your registry to become corrupted (although I'm at a loss to say how that could happen). I'm afraid you may have to do a hard reset.

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Could mean there's still an outage in your are? I recently had a tower problem for two months and who knows how much longer had I not noticed the drop in data speeds. Anyways, during that time when it was dropping in between EVDO and 1X, certain apps of mine wouldn't update because it'd take forever to pull the data or it'd time out.
So while call wise you're okay, data wise you might be outta luck? I'd call T-Mo and ask.
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I thought about that, but I left the phone connected to WiFi for a total of ten hours, and none of them updated. And the tiles (like 4th & Mayor) which update through push are working, which is driving me INSANE lol.
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It sounds like something during the network outage may have caused your registry to become corrupted (although I'm at a loss to say how that could happen). I'm afraid you may have to do a hard reset.
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Yeah, that's really the main thing I'm trying to figure out, too. If I could somehow figure out what caused it, maybe we can prevent this in the future. My only guess is they somehow got jammed up due to the confusion. The phone literally acted as though it had full signal, until I physically did something that required signal (make a call, send a text, get online) and then it would drop out immediately. It wasn't only me. My office has a Vibrant, iPhone 4, and my HD7 on the T-Mobile network, and all three acted the same that day. It was horrible, I almost walked to AT&T and switched over, it was THAT bad, lol. A part of me is hoping they magically start working, because a hard reset at this point would be a *****. On the plus side, it would probably fix my Visual Voicemail issue -.-

It looks like it's definitely screwed, front of tiles are updating, backs aren't
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It looks like it's definitely screwed, front of tiles are updating, backs aren't
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That sucks man. Any chance your phone is unlocked and you can edit the registry?

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That sucks man. Any chance your phone is unlocked and you can edit the registry?
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It is, and yes

I restored to my Dec 8th backup, and now everything is perfect. The phone was even behaving funny, no idea what the hell happened
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Cool! I didn't even think to ask if you had a recent backup, but that works just as well as a reset or regedit at fixing a corrupt registry. You end up losing a few things, but not nearly as much as a reset would cause.

I tried the reset before the restore to see if it fixed my VVM always on speaker lol, it didn't, so restored, thanks for the help though
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[Q] Is there anything wrong with this phone?

Hi All,
I had my first Sprint Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch back in January, and everything seemed fine with it. Unfortunately I lost it, and I just got a new one from Best Buy Mobile/ebay. After I set up this phone (updated everything and got it activated it), I noticed some of the display features are different. For example, I think my alarm and answer calls buttons that you slide left and right look different...did I get a different model or something?
I also noticed that it reboots on its own a lot. Sometimes it's for no reason, sometimes it's when I'm playing a game like Tiny Tower or Pocket Frogs. Is this normal or do I need to contact Best Buy Mobile Solutions for an exchange?
Also, I notice that sometimes it won't connect to any data network (not the Sprint network, not 4G, not wifi). Even if I turn off 4G and turn it back on, nothing. I have to power off the phone and power it back on before it'll connect. Is this normal? Sometimes I wonder if it's because I'm getting on and off elevators so it doesn't connect...but shouldn't it be fine once I'm off the elevators and outside?
Thanks in advance! I wanted to double check with some people on here if this all is normal or if I need to talk to a CS rep to get it replaced before it's too late.

Assuming your phone is stock that is not normal. Try doing a factory reset if you are stock. If running a custom rom then perhaps the rom is causing your issues. Every phone gets the occasional hiccup but regular problems all the time means something isnt right.

AngelWings8 said:
Hi All,
I had my first Sprint Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch back in January, and everything seemed fine with it. Unfortunately I lost it, and I just got a new one from Best Buy Mobile/ebay. After I set up this phone (updated everything and got it activated it), I noticed some of the display features are different. For example, I think my alarm and answer calls buttons that you slide left and right look different...did I get a different model or something?
I also noticed that it reboots on its own a lot. Sometimes it's for no reason, sometimes it's when I'm playing a game like Tiny Tower or Pocket Frogs. Is this normal or do I need to contact Best Buy Mobile Solutions for an exchange?
Also, I notice that sometimes it won't connect to any data network (not the Sprint network, not 4G, not wifi). Even if I turn off 4G and turn it back on, nothing. I have to power off the phone and power it back on before it'll connect. Is this normal? Sometimes I wonder if it's because I'm getting on and off elevators so it doesn't connect...but shouldn't it be fine once I'm off the elevators and outside?
Thanks in advance! I wanted to double check with some people on here if this all is normal or if I need to talk to a CS rep to get it replaced before it's too late.
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What software is it running is it on el29 or what the Los you are talking about was corrected a ota ago .... Does it get hot before it reboots....playing graphic intensive games can get it hot in a hurry.....as far as the first thing yes little things have changed it went from 2.3.4 to 2.3.6
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Thanks for the replies! Sorry it took so long (haven't had a chance to check XDA in awhile). Yes, my phone is stock - I've never modified it or anything. I have noticed that it restarts when I'm playing probably a more graphic intensive game (I noticed that Tiny Tower and Pocket Frogs give a notice that it "has not been tested on this device", so maybe that's the issue).
In terms of losing connection, I know that it happens pretty often but I chalked it up to me being on elevators throughout the day getting to/from work/home. But sometimes just turning on/off 4G won't fix it...I have to turn the phone completely off and back on and sometimes I'll get a mass flood of texts that I guess my phone wasn't receiving. Should I just do a factory reset or contact Best Buy Mobile Solutions about the problem? Also, would I contact Best Buy Mobile Solutions (who I bought it from) or Sprint? Thanks!

Start with sprint and they will let you know what to do next.

Just curious, what version does it show on your phone? If you're not on EL29 (current OTA) you may want to try that first and see how it does.

I actually did contact Best Buy Mobile solutions, and they replied "All of these things are normal. If you don't want to keep it here is the return information." I'll have to do an online chat with Sprint later tonight to see what they say.
As far as the versions, I'm showing Android version 2.3.6, and Baseband version S: D710.10 S.EL29. Build number GINGERBREAD.EL29. Is this all correct?

Well, you're on the right version... but I wonder which BB you spoke to. There is a clear issue just on the rebooting alone, not even considering the other issues that you noticed.
If you can I would say head over to a Sprint store. Don't know where in Chi-town you are but there's plenty of them around. For example, NW burbs has quite a few in and around Schaumburg. I think you'll get a better response from this than even the chat.
Good luck!

AngelWings8 said:
I actually did contact Best Buy Mobile solutions, and they replied "All of these things are normal. If you don't want to keep it here is the return information."
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those things are most certainly not "normal". BB tech support, ugh. Wage slaves that couldn't GAF about you or your purchase.
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Thanks! I'll try to bring it to a Sprint store sometime this week...will post an update if I find out anything!

AngelWings8 said:
I actually did contact Best Buy Mobile solutions, and they replied "All of these things are normal. If you don't want to keep it here is the return information." I'll have to do an online chat with Sprint later tonight to see what they say.
As far as the versions, I'm showing Android version 2.3.6, and Baseband version S: D710.10 S.EL29. Build number GINGERBREAD.EL29. Is this all correct?
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Just had to say lol @ bestbuy mobile. Yeah it's normal phones aren't supposed to retain a signal and they're suppoosed to turn themselves off whenever they feel like

LTE Gnex Radio Problems? Try This

Background
This is by no means definitive, so don't everyone go get your panties in a wad and pitch fits like 12 year olds.
So several days ago I noticed that my GNex was starting to have issues with dropping calls and data connections. Basically, I was dropping data and voice despite having a connection to the network about every 2-5 hours, requiring a reboot. This happened over a 3 day period in a stationary position, in radically different places (like 80-150 miles apart). It was happening on 3G and on 4G so I was pretty confident that it wasn't just a localized outage or the local tower acting up. I'm no expert and certainly no /dev, but I've been around some Android devices a time or two.
I'm a big proponent that 95% of problems with an Android device are user error. That doesn't mean you're holding it wrong or that you're stupid, merely that something the user has installed or set is affecting something else, that affected something else. As an example, shortly after getting my GNex I installed TweetDeck. I had used Navigation several times to test GPS (first thing I did being a SGS owner) so I knew it worked and worked well. Anyway, immediately after installing and setting up TweetDeck, my GPS crapped. It would see satellites but not connect... even after 30 minutes....even after rebooting, clearing AGPS data, blah blah. Being objective, I decided to freeze TweetDeck with TB. As soon as I did, GPS returned. As soon as I unfroze it, GPS failed. I uninstalled TweetDeck and reinstalled from the Market, and had no more issues.
Solution (For me at least)
With that event in mind, and a crapped out radio, I went looking through my app drawer for apps that access the radio. I picked out Network Info II 0.6.0, Real Signal 3.5 and Network Signal Info 1.51. I rebooted and waited. Here it is three days later, and I have yet to have a single voice or data drop. If I've had one on the data side, I haven't noticed and it certainly wasn't for long.
I don't know how or why. All I know is that I've never had any form of radio trouble and those apps were recently installed, and that without them, the radio issues are gone. Take it for what it's worth, which probably isn't much. But if you're on 4.0.4, with 4.0.4 radios and you're suffering from radio problems, flip through your app drawer and remove or freeze applications that have the sole purpose of polling data from your radios. Who knows, maybe having 3 was 1 or 2 to many.

Thanks for the write up. And I really think the issue with certain apps interfering with OS-level stuff is a big issue, and one that nobody seems to want to notice.
There are a ton of posts, not only on this forum but on others, where people are saying they have so many issues with the Nexus and this and that. What a lot of people don't realize is that, yes, certain apps that are either poorly coded in general or not coded for ICS can potentially interfere with the normal operations of your phone.
A lot of people tend to use/stick with apps that they are used to, right? I came from the G1, the very first Android phone, so I've been using Android for awhile, and I bet that other people are too. Some apps are a staple of people's usage, meaning as soon as they get a new device, those same apps are the first to be downloaded and installed. However a lot of times those apps are abandoned by their developers, never to be touched again.
So of course an app that was coded on Froyo or even Eclair that calls the GPS or the radio or bluetooth stack or something else hardware related can potentially cause issues, especially with ICS being such a radical change from Gingerbread.

Question for OP. When you lost your data after 5 hours or so, was your 4G or 3G signal still showing as well as the data bars still moving like they are active but technically your data is not connected at all?
Was it apps you added that you froze or system stype apps? How did you see what accesed the radio?

[email protected] said:
Question for OP. When you lost your data after 5 hours or so, was your 4G or 3G signal still showing as well as the data bars still moving like they are active but technically your data is not connected at all?
Was it apps you added that you froze or system stype apps? How did you see what accesed the radio?
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Yes. It was doing the typical thing you read about where people will have gray bars, 4G/3G showing, "Verizon Wireless" on the lock screen but no connection to anything at all.
The applications I froze are all 3rd party market apps. Check out the permissions for Network Info II as an example. My not so scientific hypothesis wonders if too many apps that can read "Network State" and "Phone State" going at once is too many. Again, not really based on anything at all, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that multiple apps or a poorly coded app constantly requesting Network/Phone State could throw radios into a tailspin and cause those radio crashes that we see from logcats.
And as a disclaimer, I'm not knocking those applications or saying that there's anything wrong with them. I make this post primarily to encourage people with the issue to think logically about the apps they have installed and experiment with removing some out of the equation. Going back to what I said eariler, 99% of people that install TweetDeck on their GNex probably don't have GPS issues because of it, ever. I did until uninstalling and reinstalling and haven't had issues since.
I see this as possibly being no different, at least in regards to a 4.0.4 Bootloader, OS and Radio Package.

Food for thought: Apps have not been updated to work 100% with ICS?

KWKSLVR said:
Yes. It was doing the typical thing you read about where people will have gray bars, 4G/3G showing, "Verizon Wireless" on the lock screen but no connection to anything at all.
The applications I froze are all 3rd party market apps. Check out the permissions for Network Info II as an example. My not so scientific hypothesis wonders if too many apps that can read "Network State" and "Phone State" going at once is too many. Again, not really based on anything at all, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that multiple apps or a poorly coded app constantly requesting Network/Phone State could throw radios into a tailspin and cause those radio crashes that we see from logcats.
And as a disclaimer, I'm not knocking those applications or saying that there's anything wrong with them. I make this post primarily to encourage people with the issue to think logically about the apps they have installed and experiment with removing some out of the equation. Going back to what I said eariler, 99% of people that install TweetDeck on their GNex probably don't have GPS issues because of it, ever. I did until uninstalling and reinstalling and haven't had issues since.
I see this as possibly being no different, at least in regards to a 4.0.4 Bootloader, OS and Radio Package.
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Alright, so will that app tell me what is accessing that feature or do I need to go through every app to find out and what exactly shoould t say in the access?
Help me out here please because this is starting to annoy me!

The fastest way to see what apps have what permissions is Menu > Settings > Apps then go through each app and scroll down to permissions. Or you could back up your apps with TB, do a Nandroid then completely wipe the phone and live with it totally untouched (minus your gmail account of course) long enough to see if the problem goes away.
Don't get me wrong, I've never seen an LTE phone that didn't occasionally disconnect for a few seconds. People that say, "OMG my Rezound never did" are either full of it or didn't pay attention. There are plenty of cases of Rezounds, Maxx's and Thunderbolts having brief and random disconnects. But there's a huge difference between that, and losing signal as often as I was and as often as many people here say they do. There's nothing you can do about the former, but hopefully this is something that can be done about the latter. I'm crossing my fingers that it may help and that it's a relatively simple fix because frankly, until I saw it for myself I thought a lot of people were being drama queens. I'm not a whiner, I'm a doer, so I encourage everyone to go do.
bk201doesntexist said:
Food for thought: Apps have not been updated to work 100% with ICS?
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There are a TON of apps that haven't been updated. I have a paid app that hasn't been updated that is abandoned and still on the market. Works fantastic except on ICS.

I've thankfully been free of radio issues thus far on my GNex, but I want to thank you for this thread.
KWKSLVR said:
I'm a big proponent that 95% of problems with an Android device are user error. That doesn't mean you're holding it wrong or that you're stupid, merely that something the user has installed or set is affecting something else, that affected something else.
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Being objective, I decided to freeze TweetDeck with TB. As soon as I did, GPS returned. As soon as I unfroze it, GPS failed. I uninstalled TweetDeck and reinstalled from the Market, and had no more issues.
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I make this post primarily to encourage people with the issue to think logically about the apps they have installed and experiment with removing some out of the equation.
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Not to jump up on too high of a soapbox, but I couldn't agree with you more.
It's very satisfying to read about people methodically, empirically testing. It's something that seems rare these days.
So thank you!

KWKSLVR said:
The fastest way to see what apps have what permissions is Menu > Settings > Apps then go through each app and scroll down to permissions. Or you could back up your apps with TB, do a Nandroid then completely wipe the phone and live with it totally untouched (minus your gmail account of course) long enough to see if the problem goes away.
Don't get me wrong, I've never seen an LTE phone that didn't occasionally disconnect for a few seconds. People that say, "OMG my Rezound never did" are either full of it or didn't pay attention. There are plenty of cases of Rezounds, Maxx's and Thunderbolts having brief and random disconnects. But there's a huge difference between that, and losing signal as often as I was and as often as many people here say they do. There's nothing you can do about the former, but hopefully this is something that can be done about the latter. I'm crossing my fingers that it may help and that it's a relatively simple fix because frankly, until I saw it for myself I thought a lot of people were being drama queens. I'm not a whiner, I'm a doer, so I encourage everyone to go do.
There are a TON of apps that haven't been updated. I have a paid app that hasn't been updated that is abandoned and still on the market. Works fantastic except on ICS.
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My signal does not go in and out but randomly after hours it might lose data. By looking at it you would never know because everything looks fine but behind the scenes data is not working.
So what we are looking for in permissions is what you listed in the 1st post and that is what will be listed?
I thought it might have been me running in tablet mode so I just switched back to phone mode. Would like to see if it is actually caused by what you say.

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My signal does not go in and out but randomly after hours it might lose data. By looking at it you would never know because everything looks fine but behind the scenes data is not working.
So what we are looking for in permissions is what you listed in the 1st post and that is what will be listed?
I thought it might have been me running in tablet mode so I just switched back to phone mode. Would like to see if it is actually caused by what you say.
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When I froze those apps, I picked them because I knew they had access to:
Network communication > view network state > Allows an application to view the state of all networks. The part in bold is the description of what the permission "View Network State" means. That permission is under the "Network Communication" Category. Some apps will have more than that single permission under Network communication, some with have none at all. "Real Signal" has the fewest permissions out of the three I froze, and maybe all three don't HAVE to be frozen, but I haven't tested that yet.

Another random thought. During that time period, I also had a BUNCH of random reboots.

Maybe on other devices 95% user error might be closer.
But, not on my Gnex! What if you bought a completely new phone and have not installed any apps. The first time you open up the stock browser and use it for 5 mins or so on 4G LTE next to the cell tower -75 db stationary and still lose connection of both data and voice with "the triangle of death" on 2 separate GNex with 2 new SIM cards? Is this a bad batch? To me, "bad batch" is when we say 1/100 is a faulty device but this is almost reversed with GNex. We should exchange devices until we find a "good batch"
All I am saying is we all should be a little more compassionate for people like me. A lot of problems are made by users, sure. But it sure isn't 95%....It's more like samsung/google/vzw 60% in this case..
I hope I shed a little light on all the users that did not create user errors yet still have radio problems and VZW keep telling us to wait because issues are going to be addressed with the supposed firmware update that should have come in Feb, now March. Now...I don't know when.
Thank you for your post though, you rock

With anything, even product reviews, the people that have issues always make up the vocal majority. No one talks about how things work the way they should.
If my phone truly dropped 4G as often as it did when I had this application conflict, I'd be in the Verizon store every day until I either had a replacement or got banished from the store. If Verizon told me that it was "normal" and to live with it, I'd pay a visit to management at a different Verizon store and pay an online visit to the BBB. If that didn't do any good and I was really REALLY bored and had nothing better to do, I'd probably draw up a letter to Verizon's legal department about the liability Verizon could have when a consumer can't call 911 in the middle of the night because the radio crashed.
I still think it's an incompatibility hiccup with ICS more than necessarily an issue with Verizon's LTE network. I see GSM owners complaining too. And, as I said in the OP, I can only speak for a "stock" 4.0.4 bootloader/modem/radio experience. I've seen posts from people talking about how their problems have disappeared since making the move from 4.0.2 to 4.0.4. All I can speak of from my own experiences is that I've never had a problem from any version of ICS other than what I experience.
Come to think of it, I think I'll defrost all three of those apps and see what happens, especially since the phone in my hotel seems to be in working order.

OK, in the couple of hours since I've defrosted my cocktail of apps I've:
Opened the Facebook app, watched it poll for GPS and lock, then closed the Facebook app only to have GPS stuck on. Once I went into Settings > Apps > Location Services and tried to uncheck "GPS satellites" it rebooted. After rebooting, the phone showed 4G and a connection to Google's servers but I couldn't browse or use any app that is web based (like speed test, gmail, etc). After about 30 minutes of trying, I rebooted again and everything was fine. I have a feeling it's related to Real Signal looking at the plethora of stuff it monitors and that it's starting up on boot.
That's all I personally care to see. Needless to say, they're all frozen again.

I don't think there is a problem with real signal, I only installed it after having these problems to start with.
Since I got my nexus it works randomly drop voice and data. People would call me and get a fast busy signal. I tried many different radios and they all behaved the same. I switch my network to CDMA only and haven't dropped data or voice in two days.
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On 4.0.4?
I don't think it's necessarily just Real Signal. I think it's multiple apps polling data from your radios. After a few more days, I'll go through them one by one. So far in my experiences on my setup, there is something up with the combination of those apps.
Again, there's a solid chance that a combination of other apps could give other people similar issues.
I will say this, even if I had problems before installing those apps, this particular cocktail would only make them worse.

It's not ICM
Hi all - First post here, but have been having nightmares with my wifes Nexus - mine is fine and drops NOTHING - EVER.
Hers on the other hand - we are on our 2nd one and I was informed by Verizon today, that it's been 14 days since they replaced it and I"m stuck with it. I rooted her phone and installed 4.04, which fixed the random reboots she was having, and her signal LOOKED stronger, but she is dropping calls like mad and getting kicked off the network randomly.
Anyway, it does not appear to be a ICM thing - I was reading a review on IT World (I'm not allowed to post links till I've posted 8 times? ) - They are describing THE EXACT SAME THING the Galaxy Nexus is having. So there is a switching problem WITH VERIZON. The Maxx isn't ICM and the phone is a totally different manufacturer (Motorola)
I'm smelling class action lawsuit.

Woodk1 said:
Hi all - First post here, but have been having nightmares with my wifes Nexus - mine is fine and drops NOTHING - EVER.
Hers on the other hand - we are on our 2nd one and I was informed by Verizon today, that it's been 14 days since they replaced it and I"m stuck with it. I rooted her phone and installed 4.04, which fixed the random reboots she was having, and her signal LOOKED stronger, but she is dropping calls like mad and getting kicked off the network randomly.
Anyway, it does not appear to be a ICM thing - I was reading a review on IT World (I'm not allowed to post links till I've posted 8 times? ) - They are describing THE EXACT SAME THING the Galaxy Nexus is having. So there is a switching problem WITH VERIZON. The Maxx isn't ICM and the phone is a totally different manufacturer (Motorola)
I'm smelling class action lawsuit.
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Yes, indeed.
I am very surprised to not see one yet!
It means all of us with this issue is actually being very patient at the moment.
Again, for anyone who does not have this issue at all, and curious to find out what issue we all are actually describing here by LTE Connection Drop + Voice Drop is:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24345

Man, why does everyone always pull the "class action lawsuit" line?
Firstly, you're not going to do diddly squat legally about it, so stop kidding yourselves (and us) when you say that you are.
Secondly, no service you pay for is "guaranteed" to have 100 percent uptime. My Comcast internet connection goes out every 3 months or so anywhere from 5 hours to one day. Do you think I have legal grounds to sue them? Nope. When a thunderstorm rolls in and you lose power for 12 hours, can you sue your electric company? Nope. In fact, I'm pretty sure in most ToS contracts or forms that you sign, it states that they do not guarantee you anything.
LTE is a relatively new technology, and Verizon is the first one to offer it. There's going to be hiccups and growing pains. It's been a year and it's A LOT better now than it was back when it started. 4 years ago we were all happy to get something faster than EDGE speeds, and now we get connections capable of 40/50 Mbps down at times and people are still unhappy.
I understand people's frustrations with the network/switching issues that are occurring between CDMA and LTE. But we live in an age where everyone feels entitled and important enough to immediately sue another company at the drop of a hat.
Here's an idea: If you are faced with severe LTE switching issues and it's a continuing problem, call up customer support. Tell them what is going on and let them help you. Yes, you are past your 14 day return policy, but you have one year of a device warranty, they will ship you out a replacement device. Since your Nexus works fine and your wife's does not, it leads me to believe that it's not a network issue in your area, and either: A. Your wife got two dud Nexus' in a row, which sucks but is not unheard of. or B. Your wife is using some sort of app or service that interferes with the radios. If you still have the issue after the 3rd replacement, call them up again and explain, and they just might be able to give her a different device altogether if the Nexus isn't working out for her.

Dear MMcCraryNJ,
hear my long plea if you have the time. If you don't that is okay.
Firstly, I am so glad you seem to be not affected by this issue on your GNex.
Every single day, I wish I was in your shoes.
On the brighter side though, with LTE Data/voice drop & severe vertical banded screen & one-way-microphone outbound issues, I have come to join in XDA forum. I've also gotten to know countless VZW / Samsung customer service representatives at all levels as well as local store customer service agents.
Secondly, I, and I am sure most of all the other GNex users with above issues, know that no product & service is guaranteed to work perfectly with 100% uptime. Personally, it takes a significant defect of any product for me to call customer service at all. I am one of those, who actually try to live with products that have minor flaws everyday. If GNex did drop my LTE 3-4 times daily, I'll live with out much complaint let alone 3 months that you've mentioned. 3 months of uptime would be heavenly, but I'll actually be perfectly fine with 3 hours uptime. Sadly, my uptime has been 5-10 minutes with LTE. If my one-way-outbound microphone cut off issue happened 1 out of 10 calls, I'll live happily. Sadly, nearly every other call makes my voice into a robot and I have to call back again.
I am personally coming from Droid Eris long long time ago when Android first came out with newest 3G technology back then. Eris wasn't issue free but my satisfaction with what I got was pretty much 95%. You see, as long as a product performs what it claimed to perform 60-80% of the time, I am happy. Claim and advertisement that Verizon made with CDMA Galaxy Nexus in the US as "The latest 4G LTE Pure Google ICS Smartphone meeting the most reliable 4G LTE network in the world" caught my attention, as many others, to actually decide to choose this new phone with my 2 year contract over countless androids that came out in the past 3 years.
Again, our frustration that is described on these post is described in detail here (http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24345) it is not a LTE / 3G switch issue only. Switching issue is very small part of this problem. I will not go into any detail of one-way-microphone cut off issue at all, due to its unrelated nature on this particular post.
Just as you've suggested naively, your suggestions in order that you wrote them in were exactly the steps I thought and took from very first day I purchased GNex back 4 months ago from a local verizon store. I have stopped in at the verizon store to get exchanges of the actual device, SIM card. None of these replacements solved the data/voice drop issue. I am all talking about stock 4.0.2 without any apps installed on any of these GNex. It can't possibly be the bad batch as I received batches that were produced in completely different months. I loved whatever was promised with GNex so much that I was determined to find the one for me as no other devices Verizon offer at the time appeal to me at all. As 14 days has passed, the local verizon literally told me to 1) wait for the update 2) root your device to all different kind of ROMs and Radios 3) call VZW customer service. Which all of the advice I followed, I am still waiting, none of the ROMs and radios solved the issue.
Ever since then, I've been calling VZW and Samsung (when VZW transferred me), and talked to numerous customer service representatives at all different levels. (Level 2 & 3 and at some points I've been transferred and escalated twice to a person really higher up) With my efforts, I was actually able to tag all my calls, and send them screenshots (via e-mail), and follow through to actually make above mentioned issues officially put on VZW technical bulletin. It is a huge improvement, because when I first called about these issues, they told me "They've never heard of these issues.". Now, after all of our efforts, they admit there's over "120 technical bulletin reportings on these issues."
You do think that it is so easy to get a refurbished factory replacement phones with all my history right?
The answer is sadly No. They've been literally telling me to wait a little longer no matter how much I requested them to get me a replacement device. They are indeed very hesitant to keep replacing devices for all of us especially now days where the supposed update is going to resolve these issues. And on my end, I want to see first if the software fixes it, because I am literally burned out to get another screen protector install everything again, etc. Now the official answer is wait....for the update. If they don't keep their last promise of March update to resolve this issue, that is when my patience will run out and I'll jump to a different device. Although, I love this phone....
This is the longest online posting of any sort in my life ever. I hope this somewhat gives you a new perspective on what unlucky GNex user like myself had to go through in the past 4 months due to getting "bad batches"
Trust me, I hate to live in a society where anybody can talk about law suits against anybody. But, this was one of my first moments that I literally felt like I was hopeless & got betrayed by VZW / Samsung / Google. I started to fantasy about way to make them responsible for this poor product and service. All I wanted was at least 60 percent working "4G LTE Smartphone". (4G LTE is turned off due to connection drop, Phone is unusable as business purposes due to frequent one-way-cut off). After $299 and 2 year contract with $75 monthly service bill of 4 months with all the time I spent to help VZW/Samsung with this issue as a customer, my wildest dreams of thinking of participating in a class law suit, which will never happen, actually make me feel a little bit less helpless towards these major corporations as a customer.
Thank you for hearing my plea. I sincerely apologize for the length of this post.
Hope more of us can enjoy this great GNex in the near future.
After all, I love this device, I love this XDA forum and GNex community. I wouldn't want to switch to a different device just yet

[Q]WiFi calling, issues every night

OK so I've searched this a lot and really didn't want to make a thread but it's driving me crazy. My WiFi calling is rock solid all day and then from 6, 7, or 8pm till around midnight it constantly drops and comes back. I've gotten the red invalid certificate thing and reg99 (or 09). Whichever one IS NOT the 911 one, my address is up to date.
Is it network traffic at night or what?? My house has 0 cell coverage so WiFi calling is important. It's getting really frustrating having it drop and come back every few minutes.
I'm on frostyjb, but I think that's probably irrelevant. From the tmo forums it sounds like these issues have been around for a year or so. Does anyone have any advice, or tips or tricks?
Thanks.

Most likely its due to increased traffic on your isp. They probably don't have a very good uplink making it easier to run into these type problems.
That's my best guess seeing as it always happens at the times known for heaviest traffic.
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I've been using Wi-Fi calling since it was first released on Blackberry, haven't noticed a specific time when it fails, seems to be random.
I will say each phone has had its own "quirks". the HTC Sensation wouldn't like to re-register to Wi-Fi Calling until it established a mobile network connection, pretty annoying
but I will say without a doubt this is the worst phone for Wi-Fi calling I've had to date. Samsung really needs to fix it. generally my issues include:
- One way audio (10% of the time, or more)
- "Digitized" voice calls
- Red certificate error
- WiFi calling just shuts down, in the menus it says "enabling calling", typically takes 3 - 4 minutes to come back up
- Dropped calls, typically due to above
- Wi-Fi signal drops, I have my router on my desk and I can watch the Wi-Fi connection bar randomly drop to 1 / 2 bars for a few mins then go back up, why? no idea. Doesn't happen on my Tab 10.1 or other devices
OVerall its an awesome phone if you have signal, but the wi-fi calling is trash

psykhotic said:
OK so I've searched this a lot and really didn't want to make a thread but it's driving me crazy. My WiFi calling is rock solid all day and then from 6, 7, or 8pm till around midnight it constantly drops and comes back. I've gotten the red invalid certificate thing and reg99 (or 09). Whichever one IS NOT the 911 one, my address is up to date.
Is it network traffic at night or what?? My house has 0 cell coverage so WiFi calling is important. It's getting really frustrating having it drop and come back every few minutes.
I'm on frostyjb, but I think that's probably irrelevant. From the tmo forums it sounds like these issues have been around for a year or so. Does anyone have any advice, or tips or tricks?
Thanks.
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I am in the same situation and I assumed it was just my phone losing wifi coverage at least now I know im not crazy. I would assume its just something to do with the date turnover because it seems to happen at around 9pm for me which is midnight on the east coast.

I had the same problem, So first i would try updating the firmware for your router. If that doesnt work, Check to see if your router is a single or dual band. I had a single band Linksys,which gave me terrible reception, so I upgraded to a dual band and the problem is much better now.

I have a dual band router but I don't use 5g because its range is pretty bad. It has drop outs when I go in the bathroom and that's a big time use for me lol.
When wifi calling drops I still have full wifi signal and the Internet works. It really sucks because I have 0 bars in my house. I've seen 2 bars but as soon as I touch the phone I get the do not enter circle.
I'll try updating the fw to see if it helps tonight. I've read something about the security used can mess with it? I just think it's weird that its usually at a specific time. Ie the security settings is a cop out.

Yeah, I read that having mac filtering enabled or a hidden ssid can cause issues too. Check that out while youre updating your firmware. Edit: I also tried a factory reset, which you might want to look into. Also, try testing other kernals/modems!. Thats all I got for ya though. Best of luck
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I blame tmo...
I ran a speedtest immediately to see if anything was suspicious. I still need to play with the router

psykhotic said:
I blame tmo...
I ran a speedtest immediately to see if anything was suspicious. I still need to play with the router
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I plan on flashing FrostyJB and Xquizit tomorrow. I'll let you know if I can replicate the issue on either rom.

Is it possible that having Comcast voice is somehow screwing up the internet? Like if tmo and Comcast are sending similar packets??

Not Only Me
Its nice to know I'm not the only one with this problem.
I updated the firmware on the phone, bought a new router; still have the problem... The little blue phone icon comes and goes, turns red. Seems to do what ever it feels like doing.
Will follow the thread for a solution.
Thanks to all for the effort.:good:

The last few nights have been a little better. With it usually coming back after leaving the phone on for a minute or so but it's still dropping every night. It really sucks for me because my house has 0 bars.

Im also having same problem where I live. I have no bars. I use Grove ip to make calls when wifi calling dosent work but I need wifi calling to send and receive mms thats the only down fall to grove ip
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I have been having the same issues too. Not necesarilly at specific times, pretty much all times of the day. Specifically random disconnects in the wifi calling (losing the symbol all together, then it comes back spontaniously whenever it wants). Probably the most irriating is the one way audio which has occured EVERY PHONE CALL RECIEVED OR PLACED for the 1st time after about 10 minutes of inactivity (meaning everytime I make or recieve a call the one way audio happens and I have to call back or the other party must blah blah blah). And digitized calling is almost a guarantee on every call. All is well with router and wifi settings, no data/cell service inside the building at all.
This is my second GSIII (this is a refurb POS they sent me after my new one had a screen crack). After 2 week back and fourth they are replacing it Ill have a new one tomorrow (prob another dumb refurb) and Ill let you all know if the issue is resolved. My first GSIII (the brand new one I purchased when they came out) had no issues like this at all. Hopefully they replacement will shed light.

No one can hear me when I use it (8 of 10 times). I also never hear a ring. People are just on the line all the sudden. Sooooo frustrating.
Does everyone have this problem? If not maybe it's a router setting? Would be interesting to know.

jjlean said:
No one can hear me when I use it (8 of 10 times). I also never hear a ring. People are just on the line all the sudden. Sooooo frustrating.
Does everyone have this problem? If not maybe it's a router setting? Would be interesting to know.
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I've had this. I was calling someone on Verizon and after some silence they picked up. Also if I call my phone from my Comcast landline there's no indication it's going through on the landline but my phone rings. I think these issues have been around awhile and tmo hasn't done anything. I wonder how we can get them to actually look into it...

Flood the support forums maybe?
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Yeah I think we need to bring this to t-mobile attention because most of all that i've read on here, i'm experiencing the same. I've tried different router settings as well but, nothing has worked.
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I tried dmz and opening ports that tmo has on their forums. Nothing worked.
Sent from my SGS3 Stock Rooted & Odexed
I love this thing!

I've been troubleshooting as well. Looking into my router settings, I had my channel set to 11. I changed it to 1 and so far so good. I'll update as I go.
I'm just sayin!

[Q] Time is badly incorrect

We have two Note 4s in our house. One of them has the correct time, and the other one is suddenly off by 1:07. Both of the phones are set up exactly the same way:
Automatic Time Zone - Check
Automatic Date and Time - Check
Both of them show the time zone as GMT -6:00, Mountain Daylight Time
Both phones are running 4.4.4, N910VVRU1ANI1. I haven't taken any OTA updates on either phone.
I have installed nothing on either phone in at least a week.
I've tried rebooting the phone a couple of times, but it hasn't made any difference.
Both phones are sitting right next to one another, so they're on the same tower.
WiFi is on for both phones. Both phones have location with high accuracy turned on. I have tried shutting off wifi and location and rebooting, it made no difference.
I've run out of ideas. Anyone else have any ideas for me to try?
Thanks

Also tried battery pull and safe mode. The time is still off. I've noticed that when the phone boots, the clock will flash a couple of times and then set itself to 8:41am. It's now 10:03.

Never mind. Apparently this is a Verizon issue. I just rebooted the phone that wasn't having the problem, and it is now 8:49 on that phone. In the meantime, the one that was having the problem is now working correctly.
Whatever, Verizon. At least it's happening on my phone, instead of my wife's. I couldn't care less what time my phone says. I never even pay attention to it.

Ok, now it's happening on both of the phones on my account. It is 7:09am on 4/21, but my phone thinks that it's 5:58am on 4/20. Yesterday, my wife's phone was bouncing all over the place. After trying everything to fix this, I called Verizon. Because I'm not on Lollipop yet, they refused to help me. I mentioned that I always wait for a few months after an update comes out for any electronic device and that I've seen a lot of people with battery issues, and he said that there's an easy fix for the battery issues and that he couldn't help me any further until I do the update. Probably because he can't get to the next page in his script until he clicks the button that says that I have the latest updates installed. Ridiculous.
The so called easy fix for battery issues is wiping and restoring the phone. Unless I'm missing something, that's not an easy solution to anything. I've spent hours getting my phone where I want it. I don't want to start over again because Verizon can't put out a good update.
In any case, this isn't a PHONE issues, it has to be a service provider issue. Otherwise it wouldn't be happening on all phones on my account.
So I guess I get to have unreliable phones until the find and fix the actual issue on their own.

The issue is not the phones it is the tower. The phones on a CDMA network set the time be the tower that's why normally you don't have to worry about setting or updating the time on your phone unless the tower is screwed up. If you take the phone somewhere else where it can hit another tower it will most likely fix that. I do see something like this on my wifes tablet but that is because she turns off the LTE radio and only uses the WIFI so it can't synch.

I havent had any issues, but a guy here at school mentioned the same thing with his Verizon phone (not a note 4)
So maybe Verizon is having issues?

When I contacted Verizon this morning, that's what I told the guy. If it was only happening to one phone, then I could see how maybe something on the one phone was somehow screwing up the clock. But both phones? The Verizon rep asked me if I was on the latest update. I told him that I wasn't. He asked why and I told him that I never update anything when an update first comes out. I wait a couple of months. Plus I'd heard that there were battery issues with it. He refused to help me until I was updated. He actually laughed at me and told me that there was a simple fix for the battery issues - resetting and restoring the phone. Yea, that's so simple. Anyway, as I was walking out of the room, I caught sight of my network extender. That little box that has been plugged in and working just fine for over two years. The GPS light was flashing purple. I restarted it, waited for all lights to go blue, and then restarted the phones. The time has been perfect ever since.
So yup, it was the tower - the little tower in my house. That thing has been so reliable since I got it, that I forgot that it was even in the equation.

usmaak said:
When I contacted Verizon this morning, that's what I told the guy. If it was only happening to one phone, then I could see how maybe something on the one phone was somehow screwing up the clock. But both phones? The Verizon rep asked me if I was on the latest update. I told him that I wasn't. He asked why and I told him that I never update anything when an update first comes out. I wait a couple of months. Plus I'd heard that there were battery issues with it. He refused to help me until I was updated. He actually laughed at me and told me that there was a simple fix for the battery issues - resetting and restoring the phone. Yea, that's so simple. Anyway, as I was walking out of the room, I caught sight of my network extender. That little box that has been plugged in and working just fine for over two years. The GPS light was flashing purple. I restarted it, waited for all lights to go blue, and then restarted the phones. The time has been perfect ever since.
So yup, it was the tower - the little tower in my house. That thing has been so reliable since I got it, that I forgot that it was even in the equation.
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Wow, what brand is the extender since it was so reliable?

KruseLudsMobile said:
Wow, what brand is the extender since it was so reliable?
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It's this one:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/accessories/samsung-network-extender-scs-2u01/
It was a refurb, but I got it for free. When I first started with Verizon, I had all sorts of issues with dropped calls at home. They said that they could give me this, or I could cancel. Where I used to live, Verizon was the only real reliable choice, so I stuck with it and took the extender.