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No Network Signal After Flash to 4.1 on Verizon Galaxy Nexus

I just updated to 4.1 and can't seem to get a network signal on any of the ROMs I have tried. Anyone else had this problem or found or know of a solution?
Thanks.

Rarazuh said:
I just updated to 4.1 and can't seem to get a network signal on any of the ROMs I have tried. Anyone else had this problem or found or know of a solution?
Thanks.
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Was this an OTA uprade? If you did an manual upgrade, you should make a backup before going forward.

Are you sure you used the correct ROM? Cross-flashing between a Toro/Maguro/Toro+ will often have the phone but up but with the radios not working

did you check your apn?

I just bought this phone on Thursday and the bestbuy rep had the same problem on two different phones and had to call the Verizon help desk. She managed to get it working and of course my signal went in and out as soon as I left the parking lot. I went home and immediately rooted and flashed 4.1 and had the same issue. I was on the phone with tech support and they couldn't find the problem.
I then did a quick search online and found that this is a common issue. The problem is that when updating to 4.0.4 the galaxy nexus has a hard time with the 4g connection. It then drops to 3g and then it realizes 4g is available and switches back just to start this never ending cycle. This causes a signal to be held for seconds at a time before dropping completely until it switches to the other.
The temp fix is to disable LTE and run your phone on CDMA full time. This worked for me and I have constant signal everywhere. Eventually I know a patch will arrive so I'm content with 3g for the time being.
What puzzles me is how come this doesn't happen to everyone? Its a big enough issue that I found the solution within 3min of searching for a fix but not big enough for Verizon to be aware of.
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mclaughlin47 said:
I just bought this phone on Thursday and the bestbuy rep had the same problem on two different phones and had to call the Verizon help desk. She managed to get it working and of course my signal went in and out as soon as I left the parking lot. I went home and immediately rooted and flashed 4.1 and had the same issue. I was on the phone with tech support and they couldn't find the problem.
I then did a quick search online and found that this is a common issue. The problem is that when updating to 4.0.4 the galaxy nexus has a hard time with the 4g connection. It then drops to 3g and then it realizes 4g is available and switches back just to start this never ending cycle. This causes a signal to be held for seconds at a time before dropping completely until it switches to the other.
The temp fix is to disable LTE and run your phone on CDMA full time. This worked for me and I have constant signal everywhere. Eventually I know a patch will arrive so I'm content with 3g for the time being.
What puzzles me is how come this doesn't happen to everyone? Its a big enough issue that I found the solution within 3min of searching for a fix but not big enough for Verizon to be aware of.
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I have the same issue. it burns your battery as well by switching back and forth. I used to leave my nexus uncharged at night and the sleep mode would allow it to only lose a a few percentages but now if i leave 4g on with 50 percent battery.. Its almost alway dead when I wake up

Sad to say I have the same experience
The story told by mclaughlin47 is almost exactly what happened with me. Even rooted and running BAMF Paradigm 2.1, I still have the same problem. If anyone knows of a way to fix this, please let us know.
I can't believe Verizon isn't aware of this problem. I actually had better battery life and signal with my Thunderbolt running Vicious ROM. I may just be returning mine if I don't hear of a solution soon.
Thanks for any help, cause this is ridiculous!

I am rooted now, but even on stock ICS I was getting a problem where my radios just die. Requires a reboot to fix. But when I was seeing it, they always looked fine. You don't know they died until you try to use data or make a call.

Do you still have your imei
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I saw the same issue with ics and jb roms. Tried several radios but always dropped data and voice when using 4g. From what I've been reading, it's a hardware defect.
Mine also works great and stays connected all the time when I leave it in cdma mode. Went back to my rezound since 3g mode there at least still let's me use data while talking on the phone. I like showering in as much radiation as I can

tbguy said:
I saw the same issue with ics and jb roms. Tried several radios but always dropped data and voice when using 4g. From what I've been reading, it's a hardware defect.
Mine also works great and stays connected all the time when I leave it in cdma mode. Went back to my rezound since 3g mode there at least still let's me use data while talking on the phone. I like showering in as much radiation as I can
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Reflash the radio and the cdma radio. Samsung and Verizon Wireless both claim that hardware defects are not known issues.
Which hardware revision do you have? (looks on the label on the back should be 11.11, 11.12, or 12.0.)

i have 12.01
will try reflashing the latest radios

tbguy said:
i have 12.01
will try reflashing the latest radios
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just to check back, did it work?

unknownzero said:
just to check back, did it work?
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Have the same exact issue...just upgraded to a jelly bean Rom and my data drops completely and I barely have a signal, did a super wipe (radio-rom-Gnapps)...and went to my old rom of ICS and I still have the same problem...but for the most part I barely have any type of signal and calls are dropping, called Verizon and they told me something about a switch, and that there is no problem in ur area....I just called last night, I'm gonna call back today...wish there was a solution ...also tried that 3G switch I just read earlier and I still have a poor signal

Any updates? I'm having the same problem

Hi,
I'm having the same issue. I've had my Nexus for about a month now and have had nothing but horrible signal issues, while my old Droid 2 gets fantastic signal.
I'm using the latest Bugless Beast 4.1.1 with the latest radios that were released today.
People have mentioned it being a hardware defect. I'm assuming I should just go back to stock ICS and go into Verizon and exchange it for a different Nexus?

It may very well be a hardware problem, but my thought was a SIM card problem for the reason that rebooting often does not solve the problem for me. I have a passcode on my SIM card, so if my phone doesn't ask me to enter the code then I can assume it doesn't see the card. This often happens when I encounter the loss of data problem and reboot, and I usually have to remove the SIM card and fiddle with it a bit and put it back in and then it reconnects.
So I went to the Verizon store to try and swap my SIM card and they wouldn't give me a new card, saying that it's a known software issue that Samsung has already attempted to fix twice and they are working on another OTA update. I obviously made a ruckus about how I'm paying for service I can't access and I want a different device, blah, blah, blah. Basically he was incredibly unhelpful.
I've been on ICS AOKP and recently switched over the CM10 JB and that's when the problems started for me, but I switched because some type of battery issue (it lasted about 3 hours for a few days) caused my phone to reset itself and erase everything so it seemed like a good time to upgrade. So I may have unique hardware issues going on but according to vzw it is software-based. I'm not sure if this is something that can/will be addressed in a new nightly if that's the case.

PEOPLE, IT'S NOT A HARDWARE PROBLEM! IT'S SIMPLY A RADIO.IMG PROBLEM! A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO IS ON ICS, BUT FLASHED LATEST RADIO ARE SUFFERING FROM THIS!
What you can do is just flash to a older radio image. Not that hard. Will this stop the OTA? Probably, but you can either flash the latest version back or just manually flash it.
Have a good day.

I got mine the first week of Aug at Best Buy. The first one I got had all the problems described above. Radios dropping out and dropping every call I made. I returned it the next day, and the sales guy told me he was 100% sure it wasn't the phone. I asked him to exchange the phone and the card because I couldn't use a phone that couldn't make calls. He did the exchange, and the second phone was actually worse. Most of the time, I could not even make a call. So, the next day I took that one back. They gave me a third one that worked great for a week, then I started getting a no SIM card error message. The phone would reboot and work again for about 3 hours, then repeat error message. I took the card out, wiped down all the contacts with a soft cloth, and I have had no problems since. Great reception, no dropped calls. Great phone. I don't know if it is hardware or software, but I would keep returning the phone until you get one that works!
Once again, what is the point of having a phone that can't make calls.

Not receiving incoming calls. Big problem!!

Having a very strange problem with my S3. I've noticed it at home more than anywhere else but basically what happens is that if someone calls me, the phone doesn't ring on my end but I do get a voicemail notification after they've left a message. Then when I talk to them, they tell me that on their end my phone rang once or twice and then went straight to voicemail. And my phone doesn't show any missed calls so obviously, my phone never detected that there was an incoming call.
BTW, it doesn't happen all the time. Sometimes the calls come in just fine.
I've checked my signal strength and it's always between 3 and 5 bars. I've missed more calls than I can count because of this. Some of them were important calls.
And I don't have any problem making outgoing calls or using the data connection for anything.
Any idea what's going on?

BonesHopkins said:
Having a very strange problem with my S3. I've noticed it at home more than anywhere else but basically what happens is that if someone calls me, the phone doesn't ring on my end but I do get a voicemail notification after they've left a message. Then when I talk to them, they tell me that on their end my phone rang once or twice and then went straight to voicemail. And my phone doesn't show any missed calls so obviously, my phone never detected that there was an incoming call.
BTW, it doesn't happen all the time. Sometimes the calls come in just fine.
I've checked my signal strength and it's always between 3 and 5 bars. I've missed more calls than I can count because of this. Some of them were important calls.
And I don't have any problem making outgoing calls or using the data connection for anything.
Any idea what's going on?
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Is it just certain contacts? You may have them set to go directly to voicemail by accident. I can't find where the list is in the phone though ahah, I can see how to add them to reject list though.
EDIT: Found it go to dial-pad and hit menu and then call settings and you will see call rejection see if you have anyone in there.

Halmo said:
Is it just certain contacts? You may have them set to go directly to voicemail by accident. I can't find where the list is in the phone though ahah, I can see how to add them to reject list though.
EDIT: Found it go to dial-pad and hit menu and then call settings and you will see call rejection see if you have anyone in there.
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Nope, has nothing to do with who's calling. Sometimes a call from the same person will come through but ten minutes earlier it didn't.

Ive had similar problems in the past. Turned out the phone signal was going up and down. When it was up, calls came through. And down, well duh. Either way, try a new radio. Maybe it'll hold a signal better. I've heard people complaining about H1, but cant say either way myself. Just a suggestion.

Ends said:
Ive had similar problems in the past. Turned out the phone signal was going up and down. When it was up, calls came through. And down, well duh. Either way, try a new radio. Maybe it'll hold a signal better. I've heard people complaining about H1, but cant say either way myself. Just a suggestion.
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how can I try a new radio?

BonesHopkins said:
how can I try a new radio?
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there's a thread in development. some people call em modems, but its the same thing. Choice of 3 i think.

Having the exact same issue is your phone always in lte while this happens?
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Andrew149 said:
Having the exact same issue is your phone always in lte while this happens?
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As far as I can tell.

stay away from LH1 modem it's trash....

BonesHopkins said:
As far as I can tell.
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Same here
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BNaughty said:
stay away from LH1 modem it's trash....
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My baseband version is UCLG1.
btw, I never had this problem with my iphone 3GS which I had for almost 3 years.
I have to say that even though on paper the S3 blows the iphone out of the water, for pure functionality without problems, the iphone is definitely way ahead of the S3. I'm pretty much stuck with it for the next two years but I have a feeling that if things stay more or less the same in the cellphone market, I'll probably be switching back to iphones after my contract is up. The S3 is very cool but I've just had way too many problems with it that I never had with my iphone. My iphone just..........worked. With my S3 calls don't come through, I'm constantly having to force stop apps so my battery doesn't drain all the time (and even then, half the time the battery drains like crazy no matter what), the visual voicemail is sketchy as hell and doesn't work right half the time, the data connection even when it shows a strong LTE signal is often very slow and times out a lot, and a bunch of other misc. annoyances that I never had with the iphone. I wouldn't say I'm sorry that I bought the phone because I wanted to try out the latest and greatest but when my friends and coworkers have asked me about it, I've been telling them they'll be better of waiting for the iphone 5. Sorry to vent but overall, after having it for almost two months, I've concluded that I'm very disappointed with this phone. Sure, I can do things with it that I couldn't do with the iphone but f*ck me, at least with the iphone I could do basic sh!t like receive phone calls and check my email without the connection timing out all the time.

BonesHopkins said:
My baseband version is UCLG1.
btw, I never had this problem with my iphone 3GS which I had for almost 3 years.
I have to say that even though on paper the S3 blows the iphone out of the water, for pure functionality without problems, the iphone is definitely way ahead of the S3. I'm pretty much stuck with it for the next two years but I have a feeling that if things stay more or less the same in the cellphone market, I'll probably be switching back to iphones after my contract is up. The S3 is very cool but I've just had way too many problems with it that I never had with my iphone. My iphone just..........worked. With my S3 calls don't come through, I'm constantly having to force stop apps so my battery doesn't drain all the time (and even then, half the time the battery drains like crazy no matter what), the visual voicemail is sketchy as hell and doesn't work right half the time, the data connection even when it shows a strong LTE signal is often very slow and times out a lot, and a bunch of other misc. annoyances that I never had with the iphone. I wouldn't say I'm sorry that I bought the phone because I wanted to try out the latest and greatest but when my friends and coworkers have asked me about it, I've been telling them they'll be better of waiting for the iphone 5. Sorry to vent but overall, after having it for almost two months, I've concluded that I'm very disappointed with this phone. Sure, I can do things with it that I couldn't do with the iphone but f*ck me, at least with the iphone I could do basic sh!t like receive phone calls and check my email without the connection timing out all the time.
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All of the issues you listed are not really S3 specific because I have had none of them and have had my phone since release. Apart from the video voicemail which I can't comment on because I have never used.

BonesHopkins said:
My baseband version is UCLG1.
btw, I never had this problem with my iphone 3GS which I had for almost 3 years.
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I've had my I747 since release in June and not experienced any of these issues. Over the years with Blackberrys and the Galaxies I found most problems result from variances in the network. Signal strength, carrier software and even where the phone is in the house. I dislike much about the iPhone (I do have a 4th gen iPod) and much prefer the openness of the Android OS and NO iTunes. Hope things with S3 get better for you.

Still having the problem. It seems to happen most often when I have LTE enabled. I disabled it using the method mentioned in another thread where you remove the sim then enter a code which takes you to the menu where you can choose what to use.
When I had LTE disabled, it didn't seem to miss as many calls. But when LTE is on, I miss a crapload of calls. I'd leave LTE off but for some reason it keeps re-enabling itself every few days so it's turning into a massive pain in the ass.
Any suggestions?

I have the same issue as you, but I'm on Wind Mobile. This issue happens intermittently anywhere between 1 to 2 days, my phone will stop being able to receive calls. It's very frustrating and Samsung is really no help. After two attempts on trying to "repair" my phone, they have failed each time. The only thing they did was they ran a "RF Test" and everything passed, they said. So they re-flash my phone with the same ROM - again and again.. I told them, "This is my second time sending it in, and you guys are redo'ing the same steps as the first repair. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to know this, but wouldn't you think when you send me back the phone - the issue is still going to be there?!" ... And sure enough, when I got the phone back, I was still unable to receive calls..
So I took matters into my own hands - I flashed it with a older release stock rom and I tested it for 2 weeks, and it was able to receive calls. When I flashed with the earlier release, it also flashed the baseband. Either way, I should not be prevented from using the up to date software! This is a Samsung issue but if you ever tried dealing with them over the phone, it's painful. They said they would send me a REFURB replacement - (believe me, I tried fighting for a brand new phone, since I paid for a brand new phone and this issue came straight out of the box - it's not even my fault to begin with!) it's been 3 weeks and I still don't see any phone replacement nor did I receive any mails from Samsung.
Btw, Galaxy S3 is the phone I have.
If you discover a permanent fix for this issue, please let me know. I've been searching but no luck.
Thanks!

UPDATE: it's been over a month and I still don't see any phone replacement nor did I receive any mails from Samsung. So I called Samsung today after a month and 2 weeks. They said my replacement have been cancelled. First they said it's approved and requested me to send in my receipt for the phone. I had done the the very moment I hung up the phone from when they told me my replacement was approved (that was over a month ago). They want me to sent it in again to Samsung so they can "test". This is just ridiculous and getting out of hand. Does ANYONE have a fix for this????
Other forums are saying this is a wide spread issue...

are u missing imei, or just the problem you descibe... try flashing the latest modem... maybe yell at it while it flashes...

Nope, just having the issue I described... IMEI is exist and is valid.

aftershocks said:
Nope, just having the issue I described... IMEI is exist and is valid.
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There's some newer modems out you could try but it still sounds like hardware...
Not sent from your phone...

Sorry for the late entry here but I'm also having the issue. aftershocks, and anyone else having this issue, open battery stats - what does your "mobile network signal" bar look like? Mine is mostly tan except for when I make calls, which then it goes green. I also have an HTC One X (AT&T model) and the bar's mostly green on the HOX.
I've flashed back to the original modem (UCLEM) to see if that helps and I'll move forward from there if not. UCDLK3 was the modem I was originally on when I noticed the missed calls. Here's the thread with radios: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831898.

[Q] "Phantom" Soft Keys

I've been having an issue with my softkeys (settings, home, etc...). They will randomly press opening settings, going back and opening the recent apps. Usually it does a combination of all of them and the only way to fix it is to turn off the screen and turn it back on.
I first thought this was a rom problem and switched to a new one. This didn't help so I believe it has to do with hardware. I looked up online and people say that it is a screen or battery problem. So I flashed to stock ICS and brought it into sprint, the guy was nice and stuff but he said he couldn't do anything unless we could make it happen. It wouldn't do it, so he couldn't do anything about it.
I'm wondering if it actually is a software issue or something that I'd be able to fix myself. Has anyone had any problems like this? It's not too often but often enough to be annoying. Any help would be nice.
Thanks in advance

I've heard pepper have issues with soft keys in low signal areas but never heard of that issue.. When you left the store did you have the problem on stock ics still
-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss

Well, I flashed back to Paranoid when I got back home and so far I've had no problems. I haven't been using my phone though, I'll have to see how this goes.

MiguelHogue said:
I've heard pepper have issues with soft keys in low signal areas but never heard of that issue.. When you left the store did you have the problem on stock ics still
-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss
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I have the issue of menus open and close in all apps and from home screen in low to no signal areas. Some times making the phone unusable. If I turn mobile data off seems to cure the random menu opening issue... Becomes 1/2 a phone... No data and 10 a month for... What oh ya high speeds data... Used to get 10 Meg download on 4G until a couple months ago.. Now only getting 700K, I think the Sprint tower near my house was stolen lol is that a word? FI27 is out, might help. My phone has been flagged for liquid damage so hard to find out if it's a hardware problem causing the menu issues. My upgrade isn't until May so I will make the most till then. NOTE 2? Little Rant in your thread OP... Sorry
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I don't mind the rant
I think it may have something to do with signal however. I was at work today and I got a bunch of random presses again. There was a good sized storm and I only had a bar or two. I'm also still wondering if it is software but I cant even stand to use stock ICS to see if it happens, if I couldn't use custom roms I don't think I would even own an android phone.

I was at the gym last night... 1 to no bars, menus and soft keys started poping like crazy... Turned off mobile networks.. 3G data and not one more Phantom menu press... If I wasn't so lazy I would use a custom prl and roam control... Bet that would cure my low signal areas. I will test that theory soon.
I had same menu action when I Odin stock el29 GB, with all modems I flashed
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Xynche said:
I don't mind the rant
I think it may have something to do with signal however. I was at work today and I got a bunch of random presses again. There was a good sized storm and I only had a bar or two. I'm also still wondering if it is software but I cant even stand to use stock ICS to see if it happens, if I couldn't use custom roms I don't think I would even own an android phone.
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I have use menu other Android devices my first phone was a Samsung moment, i rooted all my phones and i 've never had this problem, i even called Samsung and they say its sprints network not software or hardware, so i will take my phone to another store to see if i have better luck

I was experiencing the same problem on Gamer Mod. Even reflashed after fully wiping everything and still had it happening... was using apex launcher...but never happened to me before. Anyway wiped again and flashed back to blue kuban and its gone.
Shame because I really liked gamer mod.
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I don't see how a network can cause an issue like this though.
Also, I've tried wiping and flashing multiple roms on everything from GB to JB and still the same thing.

It is a low signal issue. The end. Only solution.. Get it replaced. My co worker had it. So I had first hand experience with it.
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When I brought it in he said he can only do something if we could duplicate the problem. Should I call Sprints call center and see what they can do? Would they already know about the problem or are they going to pretend like they've never had an issue like it. Do I have to flash back to stock ICS or do they not care? Sorry about the questions, I'm just pretty new to having my own phone plan and my own problems and don't really know how to deal with them yet.

Xynche said:
When I brought it in he said he can only do something if we could duplicate the problem. Should I call Sprints call center and see what they can do? Would they already know about the problem or are they going to pretend like they've never had an issue like it. Do I have to flash back to stock ICS or do they not care? Sorry about the questions, I'm just pretty new to having my own phone plan and my own problems and don't really know how to deal with them yet.
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You have to unroot the phone or they will say the rooting its causing this problem or even worse they will say it's big no no to root phones and they will invalidated your warranty, show them this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKG-iq4XezU so they get an idea what the problem is

That is really odd, hadn't heard of that before. I instantly thought hardware, but it sounds like it has been proven otherwise. Is your device under warranty? If so, could be worth the hassle of a replacement, otherwise sprint call center is pretty worthless in general. They will give you pre made responses and tell you they were not aware of any such issue unless you get someone who actually gives any kind of a crap haha. Good luck! Be sure to post any updates!

Xynche said:
When I brought it in he said he can only do something if we could duplicate the problem. Should I call Sprints call center and see what they can do? Would they already know about the problem or are they going to pretend like they've never had an issue like it. Do I have to flash back to stock ICS or do they not care? Sorry about the questions, I'm just pretty new to having my own phone plan and my own problems and don't really know how to deal with them yet.
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The only way to duplicate the problem everytime on my phone is to go to a low signal area. Ask the Sprint tech to go with you maybe buy them a cup of coffee and a donut.
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Xynche said:
I've been having an issue with my softkeys (settings, home, etc...). They will randomly press opening settings, going back and opening the recent apps. Usually it does a combination of all of them and the only way to fix it is to turn off the screen and turn it back on.
I first thought this was a rom problem and switched to a new one. This didn't help so I believe it has to do with hardware. I looked up online and people say that it is a screen or battery problem. So I flashed to stock ICS and brought it into sprint, the guy was nice and stuff but he said he couldn't do anything unless we could make it happen. It wouldn't do it, so he couldn't do anything about it.
I'm wondering if it actually is a software issue or something that I'd be able to fix myself. Has anyone had any problems like this? It's not too often but often enough to be annoying. Any help would be nice.
Thanks in advance
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1877155&highlight=ghost

Ok, before I call in I have one last question. Will they send me a loaner phone? I need my phone for work and what not so if I cant get something temporary then I'm not even going to be able to send it in.

Not sure if this will answer your question but a co-worker recently had to take his OG EVO in for service. They gave him a loaner phone, an EVO 3D.
My wife's E4GT had the same phantom soft key issue. It was recently replaced due to another unrelated issue and so far, no issues.
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Very last question, I promise. Should I call Sprint or call Samsung directly? I'm most likely going to try and get it replaced this weekend. Hoping that everything goes well.

Short of a sledge hammer or selling the phone is there any remedy?

Phantom keys were crazy on my phone yesterday. I hadn't seen the problem very much in a week or so. I have no idea what was going on, but cleared dalvik cache and that seemed to help. No problems with it today. I wish I could figure out a correlation besides poor signal.

Defective Radio?

I have been having a lot of problems with my new honey, namely in the signal department! I went through a whole thing with it right after activation...it worked, then didn't, then did...etc. A chat session, phone call, & 2 trip to the actual store (all in 1 day!) resulted in them doing a factory reset and sending me on my looney way. It seemed to have helped, for about a day and a half. Now it is dropping signal again! It seems to do so, sometimes, when I have the wifi on. But then sometimes not (I'm not sure if wifi is culprit or coincidence.)
The ATT store employees said I may have changed a setting (I'm sure I didn't as I don't know of any setting that would even cause that!) and also "explained" my signal will naturally fluctuate...(They think I am an idiot, obviously and of course the phone was working fine when I was there...duh!) They also gave me a new sim card.
I *really* want to love this phone! But I'm finding it frustratingly undependable. Texts won't send when I need them to. I'm not getting them either, always. Voice is hit or miss when it drops (sometimes it works, sometimes not.) I have ALSO noticed the signal is not as strong as my old beloved Cappy. That thing was a horse (and I'm thinking of going back to it if this new one doesn't wise up!) Seriously, $300 bucks for a brand new phone & it can't keep a proper signal?
Is it the radio? Is it the software (still 100% stock, unrooted)? Should I make them give me a new one? What if it doesn't work, either? Flashing it to fix the issue is fine for me, but I've been holding out for multi-view before I get flash-crazy. lol Not to mention I may have to return it so better to not mess with it [yet]. I'm very frustrated & tired of getting looked upon like I'm the typical woman idiot who is not as smart as her new smartphone!!! I am NOT imagining it!!!

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I have been having a lot of problems with my new honey, namely in the signal department! I went through a whole thing with it right after activation...it worked, then didn't, then did...etc. A chat session, phone call, & 2 trip to the actual store (all in 1 day!) resulted in them doing a factory reset and sending me on my looney way. It seemed to have helped, for about a day and a half. Now it is dropping signal again! It seems to do so, sometimes, when I have the wifi on. But then sometimes not (I'm not sure if wifi is culprit or coincidence.)
The ATT store employees said I may have changed a setting (I'm sure I didn't as I don't know of any setting that would even cause that!) and also "explained" my signal will naturally fluctuate...(They think I am an idiot, obviously and of course the phone was working fine when I was there...duh!) They also gave me a new sim card.
I *really* want to love this phone! But I'm finding it frustratingly undependable. Texts won't send when I need them to. I'm not getting them either, always. Voice is hit or miss when it drops (sometimes it works, sometimes not.) I have ALSO noticed the signal is not as strong as my old beloved Cappy. That thing was a horse (and I'm thinking of going back to it if this new one doesn't wise up!) Seriously, $300 bucks for a brand new phone & it can't keep a proper signal?
Is it the radio? Is it the software (still 100% stock, unrooted)? Should I make them give me a new one? What if it doesn't work, either? Flashing it to fix the issue is fine for me, but I've been holding out for multi-view before I get flash-crazy. lol Not to mention I may have to return it so better to not mess with it [yet]. I'm very frustrated & tired of getting looked upon like I'm the typical woman idiot who is not as smart as her new smartphone!!! I am NOT imagining it!!!
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I would definitely take it back and make them give you a new one.
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Sounds like your antennae is shorting out or something like it wasn't soldered properly or the cable isn't secure. Would explain why WiFi affects it. I'd go there and demand a replacement and if they don't wanna budge your within 30 day no questions return. Then go to a diff store and get a new one. I really don't see it being a software issue.
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Sounds like your antennae is shorting out or something like it wasn't soldered properly or the cable isn't secure. Would explain why WiFi affects it. I'd go there and demand a replacement and if they don't wanna budge your within 30 day no questions return. Then go to a diff store and get a new one. I really don't see it being a software issue.
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Is it possible that whatever the problem was, it miraculously resolved itself? I had it drop signal two more times since this post, then nothing since. It's been working perfectly. I hate to keep it if it might arise again but I hate to return it if it was some weird fluke thing.
This may or may not be related to the above problem: has anyone noticed their reception is not as good as on a previous device? I had a Cappy and it always got great signal. I noticed this one is not as strong in the same places I previously visited with my old phone. Although admittedly, it seems to be improving. Does that even make sense or is even possible? Just like me, my phone has to be the goofball of the bunch!

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Is it possible that whatever the problem was, it miraculously resolved itself? I had it drop signal two more times since this post, then nothing since. It's been working perfectly. I hate to keep it if it might arise again but I hate to return it if it was some weird fluke thing.
This may or may not be related to the above problem: has anyone noticed their reception is not as good as on a previous device? I had a Cappy and it always got great signal. I noticed this one is not as strong in the same places I previously visited with my old phone. Although admittedly, it seems to be improving. Does that even make sense or is even possible? Just like me, my phone has to be the goofball of the bunch!
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Haha I'm glad its working better but I still think it may be hardware related. I get better signal now with this device then my sIII or my note before it. Have ya done anything to your phone at all? Root mod etc?
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Haha I'm glad its working better but I still think it may be hardware related. I get better signal now with this device then my sIII or my note before it. Have ya done anything to your phone at all? Root mod etc?
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Nope. I've done nothing because I'm having this returning debate. lol I'm itching to though!
This is classic "my car doesn't work so take it to the garage then it works fine and they will make fun of you" If I do return it what do I say? It is documented about my "troubles" as per the ATT phone rep. Though if I can't reproduce the problem they're just going to send me on my way, I'm afraid.

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Nope. I've done nothing because I'm having this returning debate. lol I'm itching to though!
This is classic "my car doesn't work so take it to the garage then it works fine and they will make fun of you" If I do return it what do I say? It is documented about my "troubles" as per the ATT phone rep. Though if I can't reproduce the problem they're just going to send me on my way, I'm afraid.
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With enough "negotiating" they'll take it back haha. Plus are you still within your no ask return window? Just explain how its sporatic but annoying to the point its not functional for reliable use and they should do something within their power to help ya out
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k.babymamma said:
Nope. I've done nothing because I'm having this returning debate. lol I'm itching to though!
This is classic "my car doesn't work so take it to the garage then it works fine and they will make fun of you" If I do return it what do I say? It is documented about my "troubles" as per the ATT phone rep. Though if I can't reproduce the problem they're just going to send me on my way, I'm afraid.
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You spent enough money on the device, you should be absolutely happy with it, not apprehensive. If you wait past the return date, it's going to sit in the pit of your stomach for 20 months and ruin your enjoyment of it until you can upgrade again. Not worth it. Smile your brightest smile, walk into the store, very nicely tell them that you've had multiple issues and the AT&T phone reps said to go in and ask for an exchange. That's it. They're going to count on you being intimidated and going away. Smile, be nice, and don't be intimidated.
If they say you have to reproduce the problem, invite them to spend the day with you. The Note 2 is amazing and you shouldn't settle if you believe your hardware is having problems.

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You spent enough money on the device, you should be absolutely happy with it, not apprehensive. If you wait past the return date, it's going to sit in the pit of your stomach for 20 months and ruin your enjoyment of it until you can upgrade again. Not worth it. Smile your brightest smile, walk into the store, very nicely tell them that you've had multiple issues and the AT&T phone reps said to go in and ask for an exchange. That's it. They're going to count on you being intimidated and going away. Smile, be nice, and don't be intimidated.
If they say you have to reproduce the problem, invite them to spend the day with you. The Note 2 is amazing and you shouldn't settle if you believe your hardware is having problems.
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Yes. I have decided to take it in later today, as my 14 days is up on Friday. I hope they have stock of them. Anyhow...I have another question. If a phone is sitting still with no movement (and the weather is good, lol) will there be variations in signal strength? I get 3 bars with 4G showing, then it drops to one tiny bar. Sometimes the 4G disappears then reappears. The it will go back up to 4 bars. All in the course 5 minutes! I do realize signal will vary with movement but will it if your phone is just sitting there?
I am trying to experiment a little. I just realized/remembered that I had (uneventfully) dropped my phone (not hard, in-case) about the same time as my dropped signal problem pretty much resolved itself. So then I was like, hmm, maybe there IS something loose inside. I've tried gently shaking/jarring it here on my desk, coincidentally with the bars dropping back to just 1 as a result. But then again it may be coincidental as they are seeming to waiver A LOT. I just wondered if it is normal.
I never really stared at my old phone (Galaxy1) here at my desk but I'm almost positive it always had more than 1 bar at this same location and I never noticed it waiver like this one. But like I said I never had to make myself stare at it to check, either! lol Just wondering if someone knows a little more about cellphone signal 101 than me.

I have the issue of no 4G HSPA+ but I can get a strong LTE signal when in an LTE reception area. I'm wondering if you are in an LTE area and can get LTE? Where are you located?
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I have noticed problems with my GN2 as well. Mine shows I have signal but my data stalls or doesn't seem to work as it should. I'm in an area where there shouldn't be any problems. Only seems to happen in non LTE areas. Whenever I have LTE signal this thing is blazing fast.
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Update: Took the phone in. Basically, they had never heard of the issue with this phone. But...I walked away with a replacement. So far so good though I've had it only a few hours. The girl was very nice & explained even though I was borderline limit she would take care of me. I told her I received it Fri the 9th but she said they were basing the 14 days on the 7th! I said I didn't physically have it till the 9th! Jeeze. Moot point since she was going to take care of it anyhow but it just concerned me how (corporate) att could chop 2 days of my in-store return time!
So no, I'm not in LTE land, unfortunately. 3g H+ & E only though I can't complain about the coverage or speed. Good enough for me 4 sure.
The signal bars waivered quite a bit even while in the store. They said while some fluctuation is normal it shouldn't be as much as it was doing especially with the close proximity of the tower & good weather and especially while just sitting on the counter.
I downloaded the free app "No Signal Alert" from the Play Store. In just a few hours it recorded lost signal 4 times! (In a very good coverage area) [my first phone b4 the exchange] Consider using it if you want to see if you are losing signal like I was. Handy app!
Hopefully this is a good one. I know it sounds goofy but this phone seems to even move faster than the other. Weird. It will be interesting to hear if anyone else is having this problem. Maybe there was a bad batch of them or something? Like the Nexus I read about & their signal problems.
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Haha im glad that they helped ya! No its not goofy or silly to think that one phones faster then another because no two phones are alike. The silicone chips are very different and performance can very greatly. I had an s3 that wouldnt take custom kernels to save its life but I got it replaced after a two year old and a toilet incident haha and that one took even the most abusive settings in stride!
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I have a similar situation with mine. LTE will be working fine but then I notice that once I connect to my home wifi and then either leave my wifi range or turn off wifi the LTE icon will show in the status bar and it will show that it's sending and receiving data but Web pages will stall and never load, Play Store will timeout, and SpeedTest.net will start up but the needle will freeze about 1/8 of the way up indefinitely. I've toggled data at this point but it never fixes it, I have to restart the phone at which point LTE works perfectly but once I get back on my wifi the cycle will repeat, this has happened reliably for about the past week.
Do you all think I have a defective radio or am I missing something? I'm still within my return Window and will probably swap it Friday.
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I have a similar situation with mine. LTE will be working fine but then I notice that once I connect to my home wifi and then either leave my wifi range or turn off wifi the LTE icon will show in the status bar and it will show that it's sending and receiving data but Web pages will stall and never load, Play Store will timeout, and SpeedTest.net will start up but the needle will freeze about 1/8 of the way up indefinitely. I've toggled data at this point but it never fixes it, I have to restart the phone at which point LTE works perfectly but once I get back on my wifi the cycle will repeat, this has happened reliably for about the past week.
Do you all think I have a defective radio or am I missing something? I'm still within my return Window and will probably swap it Friday.
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Yea my wifi lte transfer is always spot on so something may be wrong
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williamsjscott said:
I have a similar situation with mine. LTE will be working fine but then I notice that once I connect to my home wifi and then either leave my wifi range or turn off wifi the LTE icon will show in the status bar and it will show that it's sending and receiving data but Web pages will stall and never load, Play Store will timeout, and SpeedTest.net will start up but the needle will freeze about 1/8 of the way up indefinitely. I've toggled data at this point but it never fixes it, I have to restart the phone at which point LTE works perfectly but once I get back on my wifi the cycle will repeat, this has happened reliably for about the past week.
Do you all think I have a defective radio or am I missing something? I'm still within my return Window and will probably swap it Friday.
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Sounds very similar to how mine is acting. I'm wondering if it is the ATT smart WiFi app causing the problem. Shows data incoming and outgoing but stalls.
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Sounds very similar to how mine is acting. I'm wondering if it is the ATT smart WiFi app causing the problem. Shows data incoming and outgoing but stalls.
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That's exactly how it's acting for me. I just now disabled the AT&T Smart WiFi app and after a quick restart and toggle test there was no problems, but I'm not sure if the problem will only pop up after I've been on wifi for a while. I'm going to see if it keeps doing it tomorrow.
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Disabling Smart WiFi appeared to fix the problem.
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What I noticed today is that when this same issue happens, with 4G icon and wifi icon both active, it occurs after I manually check for a firmware update within the system settings. The 4G icon doesn't go away until I reset the phone.
Also I manually deleted the all the AT&T boat ware apps before this was happening so the smart wifi app is not causing this for me.
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Weird, if you get the issue and don't have the Smart WiFi app then it must be something else and it was coincidence that it worked normal for me today. I've only checked for firmware once (when I first got my phone) so it must be something else causing it. I'm hoping the multi view firmware will also have a fix for it.
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Going to sprint repair center do i need to go stock/unrooted

I got an appt with sprint tech support or repair center whatever its called . I got to walk into one those stores in my area today in about 4 hours . Ive called sprint to many times about getting to many phantom voicemails, calls not going through, my phone not ringing when someone else calls me etc.. so they said to take it in . Im currently running Calks 3.0 GB rom EL29 and when you turn on the phone i have the yellow triangle show up..
Do i need to revert back to completely stock ?
or can i just take in like that and will they service it that way?
TIA to anyone that responds back with help....
MODS i know this has been asked before but i searched and didnt find the answer ..

Yes flash any stock rom before going.
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do i have to unroot as well?
also whats the best way to back up sms, mms ive tried TB but didnt work for some reason gonna give another try but wondering if there might be something else?
EDIT: so i odin'ed stock rooted EL29 rom that i had on my pc .. will that work or should i also unroot?
dont want to drive all the way to the sprint store for them to tell "OH your device is rooted and we wont work on a device that is rooted". or tell me oh the reason your device is not working could be cause its rooted....
EDIT 2 : installed stock rooted EL 29 and when phone booted it notified me of the update available "ICS" gonna actually let it install since i know stock ICS sucks. .

Ma$etas said:
do i have to unroot as well?
also whats the best way to back up sms, mms ive tried TB but didnt work for some reason gonna give another try but wondering if there might be something else?
EDIT: so i odin'ed stock rooted EL29 rom that i had on my pc .. will that work or should i also unroot?
dont want to drive all the way to the sprint store for them to tell "OH your device is rooted and we wont work on a device that is rooted". or tell me oh the reason your device is not working could be cause its rooted....
EDIT 2 : installed stock rooted EL 29 and when phone booted it notified me of the update available "ICS" gonna actually let it install since i know stock ICS sucks. .
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Just go with fi27 unrooted. Shoul have no issues.
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garwynn said:
Just go with fi27 unrooted. Shoul have no issues.
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Well i had odined back to stock rooted EL29 and then after reboot a minute later i got the notification to update so i did then that happen about 3 times till finally got to Fi27 and i dont have root...
I went into the Sprint repair center so they could look at it . THE Rep asked me "so whats wrong with your phone?" so i start telling her that i my phone wont ring some times and that some times it will ring till the callers phone has rang about 4 times and then she says" Oh thats normal the phone is set up that way its set up to have that delay" i was like WROOOOONNGGG no way any phone is set up to have a delay .. well we went back and forth and they didnt even touch my phone i could have been on any custom rom and they wouldnt have cared . she just put some notes in my acct for the next rep to help me....
I also to prove to her the problem grabbed one of the phones on display that is active it was a EVO 4g LTE and called my phone from it and my phone didnt ring till the 4th ring hanged up and then called the EVO phone back and the evo rang on first ring.. All she said was oh its our network theres a tower down went back and forth and figured she dont know what she's talking about....
Then called sprint and the rep did a RTN or something like that which included a full wipe and restore of factory settings and now during the day i have to see if it works or not.

Ma$etas said:
Well i had odined back to stock rooted EL29 and then after reboot a minute later i got the notification to update so i did then that happen about 3 times till finally got to Fi27 and i dont have root...
I went into the Sprint repair center so they could look at it . THE Rep asked me "so whats wrong with your phone?" so i start telling her that i my phone wont ring some times and that some times it will ring till the callers phone has rang about 4 times and then she says" Oh thats normal the phone is set up that way its set up to have that delay" i was like WROOOOONNGGG no way any phone is set up to have a delay .. well we went back and forth and they didnt even touch my phone i could have been on any custom rom and they wouldnt have cared . she just put some notes in my acct for the next rep to help me....
I also to prove to her the problem grabbed one of the phones on display that is active it was a EVO 4g LTE and called my phone from it and my phone didnt ring till the 4th ring hanged up and then called the EVO phone back and the evo rang on first ring.. All she said was oh its our network theres a tower down went back and forth and figured she dont know what she's talking about....
Then called sprint and the rep did a RTN or something like that which included a full wipe and restore of factory settings and now during the day i have to see if it works or not.
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We had this happen to us during NV updates in the area. Not sure if that was it or another issue so I'll throw this out as well: Did you upgrade from an older phone and keep the phone? If so, make sure it's turned off. If it's still happening you'll probably want to see if they're doing NV upgrades in the area as we had all sorts of funky stuff happening. (Towers reporting wrong times, etc.)

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We had this happen to us during NV updates in the area. Not sure if that was it or another issue so I'll throw this out as well: Did you upgrade from an older phone and keep the phone? If so, make sure it's turned off. If it's still happening you'll probably want to see if they're doing NV upgrades in the area as we had all sorts of funky stuff happening. (Towers reporting wrong times, etc.)
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This is the phone i started sprint service with.. I have had this issue since i got the phone....Now that my contract with sprint is over and finally fed up with this issue and have the time to deal with it im trying to get this fixed by sprint....
Also i have three Business lines and on one (after that person lost, then broker the 2nd phone both Epic 4g ) i have a htc touch pro 2 . we were in a bad reception area and that phone was able to stream a movie on youtube and this phone couldnt even stream pandora .....

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This is the phone i started sprint service with.. I have had this issue since i got the phone....Now that my contract with sprint is over and finally fed up with this issue and have the time to deal with it im trying to get this fixed by sprint....
Also i have three Business lines and on one (after that person lost, then broker the 2nd phone both Epic 4g ) i have a htc touch pro 2 . we were in a bad reception area and that phone was able to stream a movie on youtube and this phone couldnt even stream pandora .....
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Unfortunately the antenna for this phone seems to be a big sticking point for a lot of folks. Now that NV is almost done around here I am doing better; the recent modem updates helped as well. But there are still some problems.... like a certain location I know I have to get off the phone because the tower handoff fails every time.

the radio on this phone sucks thats why im undecided on what phone to upgrade too.. I need to change phone cause of this problem but what phone should i get is the problem
SGS3 almost the same as this phone yeah i know it has some new features but i feel like since its a samsung it most likely will have the same issue : weak radio...
HTC EVO 4g LTE very low on memory . many complain about it having issues connecting to LTE (where LTE is available) but HTC does make good Radio's ..
Galaxy note 2 has many new features it is big in size but ill get used to it and ill use a bluetooth so i wont look crazy holding up to my ear but since theres no LTE in my area i cant be able to talk and surf the web (the evo and sgs3 could) its still a samsung and samsung makes weak radios ....

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the radio on this phone sucks thats why im undecided on what phone to upgrade too.. I need to change phone cause of this problem but what phone should i get is the problem
SGS3 almost the same as this phone yeah i know it has some new features but i feel like since its a samsung it most likely will have the same issue : weak radio...
HTC EVO 4g LTE very low on memory . many complain about it having issues connecting to LTE (where LTE is available) but HTC does make good Radio's ..
Galaxy note 2 has many new features it is big in size but ill get used to it and ill use a bluetooth so i wont look crazy holding up to my ear but since theres no LTE in my area i cant be able to talk and surf the web (the evo and sgs3 could) its still a samsung and samsung makes weak radios ....
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If you can convince them - honestly, whittle it down to 3-4 and then take them out to your regular work sites and test them.
Then based on how they perform where you need it to you can make a call.
Not sure how it works with Sprint but would think they should allow this kind of testing before you purchase - or upgrade in your case. (MVNO we use does this...)

what i know of sprint is they let you use the device for 14 days and you have to decide if you want it or not....
also i was thinking of trying tmobile out cause im tired of sprints slow 3g data.. I dont have Sprints 4g service everywhere i go... just want to see if anyone who lives in the inland empire California can tell me there experience with it...