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Official ICS FROM SAMSUNG to hit march 15

Engadget has an article reporting Ics for our phones to hit march 15th ....time will tell
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Yes it will, that should mean an official leak within hours....LOL

D_A_M_A_G_E said:
Engadget has an article reporting Ics for our phones to hit march 15th ....time will tell
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/05/samsung-galaxy-sii-getting-ics-upgrade-march-15th/
If your talking about this article, then you might notice that this is not really talking about our phone. Not trolling, really just saying.

It's a general post about the Galaxy S II. Odds are high that this has absolutely nothing to do with the Epic 4G Touch, but nothing in the post deliberately excludes 'our device'.

AwesomeTurtle said:
It's a general post about the Galaxy S II. Odds are high that this has absolutely nothing to do with the Epic 4G Touch, but nothing in the post deliberately excludes 'our device'.
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Yes it does it clearly states Israeli devices/carriers/country
Unless they also have a sprint cdma sgs2 :rollyeyes:

I'm very surprised by this, I was expecting Samsung to repeat their old ways and push updates out ~6 months or so after Europe updates hit OTA. I'm very glad I went with Sprint's SGSII because so far, I believe it's had the most official development support (out of the US varients). My cousin's SGSII who is on AT&T still has the soundpool bug. Ha!

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Yes it does it clearly states Israeli devices/carriers/country
Unless they also have a sprint cdma sgs2 :rollyeyes:
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Semantics, bro.

AwesomeTurtle said:
Semantics, bro.
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We can only hope but my ballpark guess would be April for our ics "love"
Unless sprint does their "marketing technique" which could mean they will hold off on updating their older devices until the "new new" drops
That is the fear in the 3d forums but hey its all rumors till it hits a phone/device

My one concern is that Sprint will hold off any official ICS updates until they drop the galaxy nexus. They want to make a big splash with it being their first LTE phone & may want to be able to push that it has ICS as well.

jnhelman said:
My one concern is that Sprint will hold off any official ICS updates until they drop the galaxy nexus. They want to make a big splash with it being their first LTE phone & may want to be able to push that it has ICS as well.
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Yup that may happen.. And is a fear... But by the end of march possibly April we will have a stable cm9/miui4/aokp... (there all really good right now with exceptions to the things people consider a "must" in a DD)
I have lost faith in "OTA" updates back when I had my vibrant/hd2
3rd party Developers are my "OTA" and I have more faith in them than manufacturers/carriers...
Think about all the people who rely on OTA's and never root or flash their dsvices.... Have mercy on their poor souls

Bear gri11z said:
Yup that may happen.. And is a fear... But by the end of march possibly April we will have a stable cm9/miui4/aokp... (there all really good right now with exceptions to the things people consider a "must" in a DD)
I have lost faith in "OTA" updates back when I had my vibrant/hd2
3rd party Developers are my "OTA" and I have more faith in them than manufacturers/carriers...
Think about all the people who rely on OTA's and never root or flash their dsvices.... Have mercy on their poor souls
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Could not agree more, only plus is official releases tend to lead to more stable 3rd party goodness

There is one thing though they have a good angle to sell new phones. There new phones will be lte not wimax. So they can upgrade these because there 3g blows and people will still get lte phones

Most likely this will be for the Interntional version, Since they had builds way before us meaning that they had more time to work on the interntional version than the CDMA version.
Plus its no "Middle man" in between the interntaional version.. aka a carrier having to approve the update before pushing it out.. its some carriers out there.. but their not as controling as ours..
With all these leaks not like your going to be running the stock ICS rom anyway. plus it will get leak before it even become a OTA as always. till then you have many leaks to play with

jnhelman said:
Could not agree more, only plus is official releases tend to lead to more stable 3rd party goodness
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The source code that has to be released beside the official release is responsible for that. Not the build itself.
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Bear gri11z said:
Yup that may happen.. And is a fear... But by the end of march possibly April we will have a stable cm9/miui4/aokp... (there all really good right now with exceptions to the things people consider a "must" in a DD)
I have lost faith in "OTA" updates back when I had my vibrant/hd2
3rd party Developers are my "OTA" and I have more faith in them than manufacturers/carriers...
Think about all the people who rely on OTA's and never root or flash their dsvices.... Have mercy on their poor souls
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I totally agree with you... I Have FB21, I am happy with it... But I will always Flash something new.... I am here on the forums several times a day... Always something new to see, do, flash.... Thanks to all the devs and peeps....

March 10 now.

nonstop14 said:
March 10 now.
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it's official as well.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/08/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-ics/
Samsung released their press release that the global variant of the Galaxy S II will receive ICS on March 10th.
Which means ..... hopefully ..... source with it ?

Hehehe... funny this topic again...
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With all the recent leaks and the speed they are getting released I don't think our time is too far off from this date.
Samsung is locked in a war with a certain fruity company and preparing to launch an offensive in the coming months.... Win for us.

kasper19 said:
it's official as well.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/08/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-ics/
Samsung released their press release that the global variant of the Galaxy S II will receive ICS on March 10th.
Which means ..... hopefully ..... source with it ?
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I'm more interested in when the update will come for our phone

A100 ICS Update News

Hi Everyone,
I was just on the phone with Acer Support to replace a broken charger (The tip of my current charger just sort of fell off once night, and I had to pull it out of the charging port using a small pin) and asked about ICS update.
The fellow mentioned that ICS should be out in Canada for May 3rd of this year. Sounds pretty reasonable? I think I'll stick to the official firmware for the meantime...

danifunker said:
Hi Everyone,
I was just on the phone with Acer Support to replace a broken charger (The tip of my current charger just sort of fell off once night, and I had to pull it out of the charging port using a small pin) and asked about ICS update.
The fellow mentioned that ICS should be out in Canada for May 3rd of this year. Sounds pretty reasonable? I think I'll stick to the official firmware for the meantime...
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May 3rd now? It was early April, then April 28th, now May 3rd!

Who wants offical? Rooted with custom recovery is the best
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I want custom firmwares based on official
I'm hoping, these pesky bugs like the gamepad sticking and camera bugs be worked out before going custom.

TheDoctah said:
I want customer firmwares based on official
I'm hoping, these pesky bugs like the gamepad sticking and camera bugs be worked out before going custom.
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I was Skyping with my daughter the other night on ics beta build 12 and I couldn't adjust the volumes... it was quite strange. I'll stick to official for now, just cuz it's right around the corner.
BTW they said for region of Canada May 3rd, so it might be different in other regions.
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Just off the phone with ACER
Just got off the phone with ACER. Asked about the update for the A100. I asked when is it scheduled to come out, and have you an exact date on the OTA Update? I was told No. The customer service person was very Rude i might add. Also, i then followed up with, well your press release states it would roll out in mid April sometime, is that still the case? The response i received was Yes, well Maybe... Maybe I said, he said it may be in May sometime or it may be in April. He would not give any more information on this. Anyway, figured I would let the owners of the A100 know that we still are likely not to get this in April, given ACER`s track record for pushing back their release dates on previous tablets and updates.

Why do people think the zombie tech support people know when things are coming out or much anything else besides what is given to them in scripts to read off to customers -_-
ICS will come out when it comes out the leaks despite gaming bugs are great. Atleast we have leaked firmware the one phone I have (Sidekick 4g) ended up being a samsung shunned child that never saw the light of day getting official gingerbread let alone ics :c

pintek said:
Why do people think the zombie tech support people know when things are coming out or much anything else besides what is given to them in scripts to read off to customers -_-
ICS will come out when it comes out the leaks despite gaming bugs are great. Atleast we have leaked firmware the one phone I have (Sidekick 4g) ended up being a samsung shunned child that never saw the light of day getting official gingerbread let alone ics :c
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Acer has posted some FAQs about when to expect the ICS update for their tablet models, which was why I was asking. Of course I was dealing with a different issue and the CS had the option to say "sorry sir, we don't have that information". I always expected to get the official update around my birthday; which is May 4th
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danifunker said:
Acer has posted some FAQs about when to expect the ICS update for their tablet models, which was why I was asking. Of course I was dealing with a different issue and the CS had the option to say "sorry sir, we don't have that information". I always expected to get the official update around my birthday; which is May 4th
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mines april 23rd so lets start making bets? :-D
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Nexus, ICS, JB

Anyone else a little upset by this "unfair" model?
If you buy a Nexus today it comes with Jelly Bean.
If you've bought the Nexus from the Play Store, even a week ago, you won't get it for about two more weeks.
I understand it's only a two week wait, but if the update is available and shipping (and you gave it to attendees at Google IO) why not make it available for everyone especially on the official "Google Phone?"
Anyone else a bit confused by this?

not really, root, install jb, be happy - is what most others have chosen instead of their rants

aquaitious said:
Anyone else a little upset by this "unfair" model?
If you buy a Nexus today it comes with Jelly Bean.
If you've bought the Nexus from the Play Store, even a week ago, you won't get it for about two more weeks.
I understand it's only a two week wait, but if the update is available and shipping (and you gave it to attendees at Google IO) why not make it available for everyone especially on the official "Google Phone?"
Anyone else a bit confused by this?
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Bought my gnex un January from amazon and I'm rocking jelly bean rooted and with francos kernel since 5 hours ago.. What are you talking about
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aquaitious said:
Anyone else a little upset by this "unfair" model?
If you buy a Nexus today it comes with Jelly Bean.
If you've bought the Nexus from the Play Store, even a week ago, you won't get it for about two more weeks.
I understand it's only a two week wait, but if the update is available and shipping (and you gave it to attendees at Google IO) why not make it available for everyone especially on the official "Google Phone?"
Anyone else a bit confused by this?
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I think the only ones being updated to JB, OTA anyways, is the ones handed out at the conference. The product page for the Nexus still says - "Ships with Android 4.0". And the current build they are receiving is only a "Preview" build, probably not stable enough for public consumption.

The people getting JB now are getting a test build that isn't fully completed and is only for people who went to the I/O conference. Go buy a ticket next year and enjoy the goodies, otherwise wait for 2 freaking weeks.

in a but confused, where does it state if I buy a phone today when it gets her in two days that it will have jb on it?
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What's the point in having Jelly Bean so fast anyway? Other than the hype.
I flashed the Jelly Bean ROM.... used it for 30 minutes and then went back to CM9 for features.
Not to mention there are A LOT OF APPS with no support for Jelly Bean. Meaning app functionality will not work and force close.
There is absolutely no reasoning for be rushing for this. The OTA link was a leak anyways, it was never fully released by Google.

BrianDigital said:
in a but confused, where does it state if I buy a phone today when it gets her in two days that it will have jb on it?
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Nowhere

zephiK said:
What's the point in having Jelly Bean so fast anyway? Other than the hype.
I flashed the Jelly Bean ROM.... used it for 30 minutes and then went back to CM9 for features.
Not to mention there are A LOT OF APPS with no support for Jelly Bean. Meaning app functionality will not work and force close.
There is absolutely no reasoning for be rushing for this. The OTA link was a leak anyways, it was never fully released by Google.
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It's a stock ROM, people don't flash it for the features, first off.
Second, what apps were you having issues with, so far only TiBu and Apex are the only ones not working for me.
Third, the reason for rushing is so that everyone can go to their favorite hang out spot and brag to all their friends that they have JB.
It was a leak, but the leak allows us full access to something that has not been officially released which always makes us nerds scream like school girls.

miketoasty said:
It was a leak, but the leak allows us full access to something that has not been officially released which always makes us nerds scream like school girls.
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It also makes you ***** like little school girls too, apparently

monkor said:
It also makes you ***** like little school girls too, apparently
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Didn't know I was *****ing but while I am at it, damn it is hot in here! Why don't we go places anymore! You don't look at me like you used to! Who's this girl you have in your phone as "Sister", that sounds really fishy!
Happy?

monkor said:
It also makes you ***** like little school girls too, apparently
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Idk what little school girls you're hanging around, but the ones I know don't *****.
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That's the awesome thing about owning a nexus, they're easy to update.
Thread closed.

No official JB update until 2013! samsung did it again!

so this has been a terrible issue with samsung since the galaxy s 1 days... im sick and tired of slow updates.. whats your thoughts on this ? will it change your mind on what phone to get next?
http://www.androidauthority.com/u-s-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-update-released-coming-months-123557/

HRodMusic said:
so this has been a terrible issue with samsung since the galaxy s 1 days... im sick and tired of slow updates.. whats your thoughts on this ? will it change your mind on what phone to get next?
http://www.androidauthority.com/u-s-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-update-released-coming-months-123557/
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IMO, It really doesn't matter! I have used JB and ICS on my phone, and other than Google Now, I don't see the need to update to JB.
I look at it like this... the standard consumer is not rooted. The OEM and carrier have to smooth out bugs, and make the transition from ICS -> JB a seemless integration. This makes for a better customer experience.
Thats the business man... why release a sub par product and have thousands of support tickets for small minor issues.
From your sig, you're running JB already.

Pretty depressing if you ask me. God if the new nexus phone wasn't being made by LG I'd probably be all over that thing at this point.
It will have 4.2 before we even get 4.1
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Telus' S3 will get JB before the end of November, so I'm thinking we should be very close by.

Full application of project butter in an official release of jb will be worth it. Only reason my nexus is still stock is that the only rom on the s3 that comes close to matching its fluidity, for me at least, is tasks aokp. It's night, and day. Slow rollouts of software are just one of those burdens of this era in development. Fortunately, the software is beginning to be more, and more worth it. Someday you'll lecture your grandkids on how we didn't have all this fancy "cognitive request firmware updates, and 5tb/second data speeds" lol
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jbizz said:
IMO, It really doesn't matter! I have used JB and ICS on my phone, and other than Google Now, I don't see the need to update to JB.
I look at it like this... the standard consumer is not rooted. The OEM and carrier have to smooth out bugs, and make the transition from ICS -> JB a seemless integration. This makes for a better customer experience.
Thats the business man... why release a sub par product and have thousands of support tickets for small minor issues.
From your sig, you're running JB already.
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i get what you mean man, but its seriously been 5 months, dont you think we could of had an updated by then? how long does it really take to release an update..

HRodMusic said:
i get what you mean man, but its seriously been 5 months, dont you think we could of had an updated by then? how long does it really take to release an update..
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*shrugs* there was an update from 4.0.2 to 4.0.4
I know what you're saying tho... I always look at devs like the CM team who have already put out updates way before the OEM and think... how come a billion dollar company is so slow?
I wish carriers would allow users to do soak tests and **** before release to send bug reports and stuff.
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Stupid app take out my cuss word! Hah!!!
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By the time we even get Android 4.1, Android 4.2 will already be out in the market.

First, 4.2 will not be key lime pie.
Second, its not Samsungs fault, its the carriers.

And being the carriers fault - you have to wonder. Do they each only have like 2 people working on the Updates...or wtf. lol

jbizz said:
I know what you're saying tho... I always look at devs like the CM team who have already put out updates way before the OEM and think... how come a billion dollar company is so slow?
I wish carriers would allow users to do soak tests and **** before release to send bug reports and stuff.
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Because when there is a bug in CM, they can go *shrug*, we'll add it to the known issues list, like the bluetooth audio not working right. When there is a bug in a carrier supplied ROM, think of all the people that are going to want to call AT&T and be like 'Hey this isn't working, FIX IT!'. That costs money to pay the customer service people and it costs money from a PR point of view.
The carriers strive to make things as bug free as possible (which, is laughable considering some of the updates some carriers have pushed out, or even the state of a phone at release *cough*G2x*cough*). If they don't do super extensive testing on everything BEFORE the release, they're going to have to do the same testing AFTER the release, but after it costs them money in customer service and PR image.

It sucks that another manufacturer/carrier is delaying the update. Do we buy a phone on the promise/hope we will see the next update? I don't. "Why am I not getting update XX" seems to be a common complaint. I came from the Atrix 2. Motorola promissed ICS and an unlockable bootloader. The phone is now borderline if not already end of life with At&t and is just getting the ICS update and still a locked bootloader. I bought my GSIII with the thought "cool I will get JB" but didn't care when. With all of the leaks available, if you want JB, you can get it. Seeing some of the bugs in the leaks, do you really want that to be your update? If you got the update and had these bugs, thered posts of "how could they release this buggy version?" Don't get me wrong, I would like to see manufactures and carriers stand by their word, but I realize there are more important things to worry about than why my update is delayed or not getting it. If you want a phone that guarantees you'll see an update, get a ,cough cough, Iphone. Not all features may work but hey, you'll get your update. My one and a half cents and a THANKS to the hard working devs that bring us these leaks and roms (FOR FREE) to satisfy our need to update. YOU GUYS ROCK!

This phone is awesome straight out of the box. I'm just a flash junkie and I love new shiny stuff. I wonder if there's a support group for flash addicts?

I dont understand why carriers have to tweak the software when samsung already does it. I dont think carriers change the software that much that it takes so long. Someone please enlighten me
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jmacdonald19 said:
This phone is awesome straight out of the box. I'm just a flash junkie and I love new shiny stuff. I wonder if there's a support group for flash addicts?
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Lol
I'm sure a huge population ate xda are
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viking2.0 said:
I dont understand why carriers have to tweak the software when samsung already does it. I dont think carriers change the software that much that it takes so long. Someone please enlighten me
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Its not the OS they are changing, it takes them this long to make their BS bloatware work.

dntesinfrno said:
Its not the OS they are changing, it takes them this long to make their BS bloatware work.
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Well and doing carrier certification. I think that's more of what ends up taking a long time than updating any carrier add-on software.

Sprint is receiving their OTA to JB starting today. So I'm sure we're not too far behind.
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this sucks but never a problem with custom roms and Samsung is the easiest to update.

I'm new to Android, so maybe that makes me naive. But, I'd like to bring up a few points:
1) How do you know JB for the AT&T GS3 is delayed until 2013? No one has given a release date. Heck, it might be 2014 or 2015. It's misleading to post a title like that.
2) "Coming months:" this ambiguity goes both ways. Sprint released their GS3 JB OTA update today.
3) AT&T is taking long to update their bloatware?! There are three stupid apps: AT&T Hotspots, AT&T Messages, and AT&T Navigator. AND AT&T's already released the Note 2, which comes with Jelly Bean. Thus, these apps have already been updated to work with Jelly Bean!
The holdup on AT&T's part is something else...

ZL's fate

Is ZL's fate going to be ended up like xperia ion? I see similar patterns in sony's way of working, Xperia S and Xperia ion, ion gets neglected. Now Z and ZL, ZL gets updates slower the Z. I thought both of them got .307 firmware certified together? Btw, xperia ion's screen contast is better the xperia S, similarity ZL's screen is better then Z!! Wth..

This is not the end of ZL yet...
mybe because Z is more popular than ZL..
thats why sony gives more to Z than ZL..
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Hopefully, how i hope the .307 upgrade will give me the colours of Xperia ion. lol

Damn what a bunch of crying babies around!!!!!! Jesuschrist!!
Everyday I see a new post about Sony updates and ****.. Why didn't you buy a SG4 an HTC or something different? For real. The past years I have been rolling Samsung and it was the same story... Now since I've got my ZL I've received 2 updates in less than 2 months... What else you want.? Seriously guys stop this trolling and get yourself a nexus if you are looking for constant updates... No hard feelings for real..
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Lonzo_SGS2_506 said:
Damn what a bunch of crying babies around!!!!!! Jesuschrist!!
Everyday I see a new post about Sony updates and ****.. Why didn't you buy a SG4 an HTC or something different? For real. The past years I have been rolling Samsung and it was the same story... Now since I've got my ZL I've received 2 updates in less than 2 months... What else you want.? Seriously guys stop this trolling and get yourself a nexus if you are looking for constant updates... No hard feelings for real..
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While I agree with your message, I would have posted it in a slightly nicer tone. Sony has been great with updates, so far. They're fixing issues and improving upon current features. What else can you ask for? These updates are FREE, we paid for the phone as is and that is for any phone you buy.

ryude said:
While I agree with your message, I would have posted it in a slightly nicer tone. Sony has been great with updates, so far. They're fixing issues and improving upon current features. What else can you ask for? These updates are FREE, we paid for the phone as is and that is for any phone you buy.
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Cool bro:thumbup:
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+1
we probably have here one type of firmware update addiction by some of the participants of forum Seriously, I think Xperia ZL is one hell of a phone out of a box and we are already getting updates. I am also not totally satisfied with everything, but who/what is perfect ? In such cases I always remember the movie Some Like It Hot and last sentence: "Nobody's Perfect" and then is everything easier for me
Sry for offtopic

chill bro, its just a casual remark that i merely hope for only, because a saw a major screen contrast improvement in the Z after the update and hope that ZL would get it too. No body is complaining, Btw, Singapore has Speech freedom . Ofcos i do like ZL, if not i would not sell my Z away for a ZL !! Perheps as someone said, Z is more Popular thats why its getting updates faster, i just do really hope ZL would not be neglected. You see, SONY phones are real slow here in Singapore, i cant even find a decent case/ pouch here! Worst of all, the sales person at SONY CENTER told me that they will not be bringing in any ZLs any more due to the low demand. So chill bro, i would appreciate a nicer tone. No heart feelings.

finoqq84 said:
chill bro, its just a casual remark that i merely hope for only, because a saw a major screen contrast improvement in the Z after the update and hope that ZL would get it too. No body is complaining, Btw, Singapore has Speech freedom . Ofcos i do like ZL, if not i would not sell my Z away for a ZL !! Perheps as someone said, Z is more Popular thats why its getting updates faster, i just do really hope ZL would not be neglected. You see, SONY phones are real slow here in Singapore, i cant even find a decent case/ pouch here! Worst of all, the sales person at SONY CENTER told me that they will not be bringing in any ZLs any more due to the low demand. So chill bro, i would appreciate a nicer tone. No heart feelings.
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+1 LoL. I have xperia Ion and know the feeling

still no signs of .307..

mmm I feel the same with the S2 when the S3 has 4.1.2 and the S2 no have a announced update (now has 4.2.2) wait only wait the ZL and Z are now the flag phones for Sony. and the phone (for the date of the topic) the .256 is from 28 for May? what do you want a Upgrade per every week? my Ex phone the Galaxy SIII has 4.1.2 and 4.2.2 Leak on the 4.1.2 Update now is updated every 3 weeks and is the same for the before update! any new function or a interesting thing same bug same problems etc... if you want update secured go to nexus or Cyanogen. this phone have 2 months in the market And the last update on 27 Of may do you think this phone is Abandoned or anything else?
Whatever AOSP Program for the Z is a placebo I don't Believe so much on that programs from the companies.
Sorry My English if is bad
And other thing Sony make the options for AOSP this phone has Cyanogen full working that thing in Samsung never happen after Months for Work for the Developers and the open source programs not is good

Rodro said:
mmm I feel the same with the S2 when the S3 has 4.1.2 and the S2 no have a announced update (now has 4.2.2) wait only wait the ZL and Z are now the flag phones for Sony. and the phone (for the date of the topic) the .256 is from 28 for May? what do you want a Upgrade per every week? my Ex phone the Galaxy SIII has 4.1.2 and 4.2.2 Leak on the 4.1.2 Update now is updated every 3 weeks and is the same for the before update! any new function or a interesting thing same bug same problems etc... if you want update secured go to nexus or Cyanogen. this phone have 2 months in the market And the last update on 27 Of may do you think this phone is Abandoned or anything else?
Whatever AOSP Program for the Z is a placebo I don't Believe so much on that programs from the companies.
Sorry My English if is bad
And other thing Sony make the options for AOSP this phone has Cyanogen full working that thing in Samsung never happen after Months for Work for the Developers and the open source programs not is good
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Period!
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randy_c said:
+1 LoL. I have xperia Ion and know the feeling
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Me too.. I got my Ion just a few hours.. It's used anyway but still looks like new, so i decided to bought it for my sister..
Yes, Ion is another devices that not so popular..
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daniLaLaLaLaLa said:
Me too.. I got my Ion just a few hours.. It's used anyway but still looks like new, so i decided to bought it for my sister..
Yes, Ion is another devices that not so popular..
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Good brother I bet she's happy to have one.

randy_c said:
Good brother I bet she's happy to have one.
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btw, Ion and ZL is a rare device now.. take good care of it :thumbup:
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Less updates means less things need fixing! I have a Nexus 4 and the ZL and even though the Nexus 4 gets the latest and greatest Google software, I still like the ZL more. I would have probably liked the Z too, but there's still no T-Mobile US compatible model out yet, and the ZL is cheaper.
I get a lot of compliments on it, it's very unique.

havanahjoe said:
Less updates means less things need fixing! I have a Nexus 4 and the ZL and even though the Nexus 4 gets the latest and greatest Google software, I still like the ZL more. I would have probably liked the Z too, but there's still no T-Mobile US compatible model out yet, and the ZL is cheaper.
I get a lot of compliments on it, it's very unique.
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Period!
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The reason ZL recieved less updates is that it has less things to be fixed. The first update which was .434 was released on Z and ZL at same time as both devices suffered from sudden death issue. ZL also has the white balance setting from start which Z got in .253 update. Even ZL has slightly better display than Z. ZL's .253 update was just for colour correction and some camera improvement. And for .307 update, it only has speed dial setting and not even all variants of Z have got this update. So now that Z and ZL are equal in stability and fixes sony will release the later updates at same time for both of these devices
And most important!! You wont get any other 5inch device in such small frame

Havnt I told you! ZL got 4.2.2 update before Z

R4GE199 said:
Havnt I told you! ZL got 4.2.2 update before Z
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OMG!!! And as u said BEFORE the XZ ... just waiting to get home to update via PCC
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