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Ice Cream Sandwich Spotted on SGSII

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_running_android_ics_rom-news-3274.php
Great news! We can only hope our neglected E4GT gets some ICS love soon too.
EDIT: Apparently it's been said this is just an ICS launcher...

Still some pretty cool mods though hey! I wouldn't mind the fast switch program he had. Its the same one I got on my galaxy tab 10.1 ICS will get here eventually amd when it does I hope it changes the android expereince with lots of eye candy and fun features. Hope it really takes advantage of our 1gig ram and fast internal storage and is coded specificly for duel core cpu's. How sweet would thay be !

Our phone is neglected? It's been out for a month. Hardly time to consider it neglected.

TurboFool said:
Our phone is neglected? It's been out for a month. Hardly time to consider it neglected.
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I think they are talking in general the SGS2 has been out for a few months now it's just new for the US market.

there is a ICS launcher that looks just like that and the status bar is wrong i think its the launcher with a themed bar

I could not careless about the ICS Sprint would push to us. I want the ICS that the devs bring us.

cidica said:
I think they are talking in general the SGS2 has been out for a few months now it's just new for the US market.
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No, I mean our phone!
Figgen AT&T version already has Cyanogen mod!

I can only hope that ICS performs as well as the video shows.

Definitely a cool mod though!
When ICS does come out, will this end up for sure on our E4GT?

tweeker404 said:
Definitely a cool mod though!
When ICS does come out, will this end up for sure on our E4GT?
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Nope
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WhiteZero said:
No, I mean our phone!
Figgen AT&T version already has Cyanogen mod!
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Its because its gsm
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Just enjoy your phone. With the heavily customized interface, don't expect ics until summer 2012. It is what you signed up for.
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I won't see a upgrade untilled 2013.
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Google WANTS Ice Cream Sandwich
It was my understanding that Google wants as many devices as possible to be upgraded to Ice Cream Sandwich as soon as possible to push developers in to moving their current applications to this platform and that Google basically wants previous versions including Honey Comb to go the way of the Dodo or the Dinosaur. So this could mean that we would see an upgrade fairly quickly for our devices so as to reduce fragmentation.

Blu3Fr0g said:
It was my understanding that Google wants as many devices as possible to be upgraded to Ice Cream Sandwich as soon as possible to push developers in to moving their current applications to this platform and that Google basically wants previous versions including Honey Comb to go the way of the Dodo or the Dinosaur. So this could mean that we would see an upgrade fairly quickly for our devices so as to reduce fragmentation.
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You are setting yourself up for disappointment. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. ICS updates will start going out in middle 2012.
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ravizzle said:
Its because its gsm
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Yes, sadly the CDMA and WiMax radios add a few hurdles.

Someone posted this on engadget as an idication that the epic touch 4g would get ICS. Frankly I'm not sure how they determined that from the link.
HTML:
http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D710/EJ14.rdf

boe said:
Someone posted this on engadget as an idication that the epic touch 4g would get ICS. Frankly I'm not sure how they determined that from the link.
HTML:
http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D710/EJ14.rdf
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All that tells us it they're working on an update (which we already knew, since they have known bugs they're trying to resolve), and it's full of placeholder text. The only version is mentions is 2.3.3, and we're on 2.3.4. So clearly not an indication of any actually useful information.

TurboFool said:
All that tells us it they're working on an update (which we already knew, since they have known bugs they're trying to resolve), and it's full of placeholder text. The only version is mentions is 2.3.3, and we're on 2.3.4. So clearly not an indication of any actually useful information.
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Thanks - I couldn't figure out why they thought that link had anything to do with ICS.
Of course if they really wanted a shock and awe campaign tomorrow, just imagine if the top 10 Android devices all got an update to ICS tomorrow

I would rather have to wait a bit for good ROMs than have everything the first week so we don't have to listen to the "Where's the Jelly Bean update " talk. My phone is perfect and will only get better. Its not like every CM7 nightly is perfect. It takes a lot of nightlies to get a stable release. I have been flashing all of the Nexus releases....last nights was great though...patience people
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[Q] HTC newer version than G Nexus?

Is it true?
HTC Sensation and Sensation XE are being updated today to Android 4.0.3
And my G Nexus is 4.0.2
I thought Nexus would be first with updates?

> # doesn't mean greatness.

enjoy what you have..don't act like a kid
the day that the sensation will not receive android Jelly Bean and Key Lime Pie, the sensation's users will cry more than you

Maybe not for you, bur for me it does!
I bought my Nexus because everywhere I read about it was said that Nexus-phones get updates first from Vanilla Android.
And now HTC even ported their Sense over it?
Im starting to regret that I bought my Nexus. My SE Arc maybe wasnt that fast, but was more thinner and took much better pictures!

I dont mean to act like a kid.
Just dissapointed of all bull*¤&% about Nexus.

Inferis said:
Maybe not for you, bur for me it does!
I bought my Nexus because everywhere I read about it was said that Nexus-phones get updates first from Vanilla Android.
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if you really want, i can make for you a flashable zip with android 5.0 (at least you will see and can show it to your friends from the menu settings/about phone)

andQlimax said:
if you really want, i can make for you a flashable zip with android 5.0 (at least you will see and can show it to your friends from the menu settings/about phone)
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No, I want 4.0.4 (not found ;-) with better radio as told here.
But dont want to risk getting bricked, so Im waiting for Stock update.

Inferis said:
Is it true?
HTC Sensation and Sensation XE are being updated today to Android 4.0.3
And my G Nexus is 4.0.2
I thought Nexus would be first with updates?
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Several tablets, like the Transformer Prime, have been on 4.0.3 for weeks. You were guaranteed timely updates for the useful life of your phone, which is about 18 months. Not first.

Inferis said:
No, I want 4.0.4 (not found ;-) with better radio as told here.
But dont want to risk getting bricked, so Im waiting for Stock update.
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Good play on version #
As more phone makers start to roll out ICS you'll see more and more version #'s, not necessarily equating to any tangible improvements.

This is a silly thread with a silly concern. Go root your phone.

Inferis said:
Maybe not for you, bur for me it does!
I bought my Nexus because everywhere I read about it was said that Nexus-phones get updates first from Vanilla Android.
And now HTC even ported their Sense over it?
Im starting to regret that I bought my Nexus. My SE Arc maybe wasnt that fast, but was more thinner and took much better pictures!
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Then sell your Nexus and go back. Nobody is making you keep it. you can root your phone and put 4.0.3 or even a 4.0.4 rom on it. If you dont want to root you phone you can unlock it, temporarily boot CWM and flash the stock 4.0.4 OTA.

Inferis said:
I dont mean to act like a kid.
Just dissapointed of all bull*¤&% about Nexus.
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well, you are acting like a kid. grow up.
I'm sorry you don't like your Nexus, but no one is forcing you to use it. Feel free to sell it and buy any HTC phone if you'd like. Truth is that the Nexus will still be the first to be updated to vanilla Android, because no other phone in existence will have it. You go buy the HTC phone it will have 4.0.3 and that's amazing! But it has Sense, and when it comes to the next update, you'll be *****ing again that its not coming and you'll want your Nexus back.
The fact that you'd consider leaving the Nexus on 4.0.2 for an HTC phone on 4.0.3 because its x.x.1 higher leads me to believe that you don't understand how great having a Nexus is.

I dont understand this impatience. The nexus will get the 4.0.4 update, likely very soon. Google is just finishing everything. They are not sitting around doing nothing. And they are not purposely holding back. They WANT us to have the update. Its just taking time.

RogerPodacter said:
I dont understand this impatience. The nexus will get the 4.0.4 update, likely very soon. Google is just finishing everything. They are not sitting around doing nothing. And they are not purposely holding back. They WANT us to have the update. Its just taking time.
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Most of the big babies of the forum crying foul are from the now generation. They do not understand things like patience, or something 'taking time.'

As far as complaining you don't have 4.0.3, what improvements in .3 are you waiting for over .2 exactly?
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Most of the big babies of the forum crying foul are from the now generation. They do not understand things like patience, or something 'taking time.'
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Speaking of the "now generation" when are we getting a new BAMF? Jk man.

LOL.
Last I heard was next week, which will (hopefully) mark the first launch of the Maguro version.

Fine, Ill go rooting then.
But you guys really help me out if I dont succeed!
AFAIK theres a better radio (which is really useless today) in 4.0.4 or 4.0.3

If you really dont want your nexus i'll take it... Mine is in the shop getting wifi fixed. Had to RMA and i'm really missing it. I'm stuck using this brick of a Dell Streak, not having my nexus is really bad. But on the bright side I still have my Gtab running 4.0.3!

New Galaxy Nexus

So I ordered a galaxy nexus the first day of I/O after the price drop and the announcement they would ship with Jellybean. I got mine an hour ago and surprise it has 4.0.4. with no update available. WTF. So I try multiple times to call google support and it hangs up on me every time. Just thought I would let you guys know, it may not actually come with JB. I'm pissed off right now.

From what I've seen and read, they announced it to be the first phone to have jellybean. I didn't see any indication that it would ship with 4.1 Only the freebie phones were expected to have JB preinstalled
Just flash the new build or wait a few days for the OTA to come in.

colts187 said:
So I ordered a galaxy nexus the first day of I/O after the price drop and the announcement they would ship with Jellybean. I got mine an hour ago and surprise it has 4.0.4. with no update available. WTF. So I try multiple times to call google support and it hangs up on me every time. Just thought I would let you guys know, it may not actually come with JB. I'm pissed off right now.
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They never said it would ship with JB. The Nexus 7 ships with JB and the participants to the conference received units that would update to a "preview" build of JB. Again, they never said the Galaxy Nexus was going to ship with JB at this time. They also clearly stated that they would be updated OTA in mid-July.

its not supposed to come with Jellybean officially until mid july. where did Google say it will be shipped with JB?

Maybe I dreamed I heard that but they sure do make it look like it does if you look at the product page.
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Galaxy_Nexus_HSPA?id=galaxy_nexus_hspa&hl=en
Maybe I just need a vacation LOL

colts187 said:
Maybe I dreamed I heard that but they sure do make it look like it does if you look at the product page.
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Galaxy_Nexus_HSPA?id=galaxy_nexus_hspa&hl=en
Maybe I just need a vacation LOL
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Yeah, the Jelly Bean renders don't help but it does say -
Ships with Android 4.0
Soon upgraded to Android 4.1, Jelly Bean
Under "OS" in the specifications.

keep calm and flash the jelly bean ROM

Sorry for wasting this space. Lol. I think Im just upset cuz I sold my gs3. Love this phone though
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Mine just came as well
I knew JB wouldn't be on it as others said its right there on the order page.
Also like others said just go flash it!

That's the first thing I'm going to do when I get my order next week (for a friend... he's behind the times!). Unlock and flash Jelly Bean for him.

asawoszc said:
That's the first thing I'm going to do when I get my order next week (for a friend... he's behind the times!). Unlock and flash Jelly Bean for him.
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Its a developer version and not the final product. I would advise doing that unless you want to hold his hand on maintaining his device when it comes to flashing.
I rather keep another person's phone stock.

zephiK said:
Its a developer version and not the final product. I would advise doing that unless you want to hold his hand on maintaining his device when it comes to flashing.
I rather keep another person's phone stock.
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Thanks but we're both experienced with the end-to-end process and have done it many times. I was just saying that as a "surprise" for him I would have it done already since I know that's the first thing he would do anyway.
But yes... in general I would agree. I wouldn't do this for a regular user who doesn't care about unlock/root/etc.
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colts187 said:
So I ordered a galaxy nexus the first day of I/O after the price drop and the announcement they would ship with Jellybean. I got mine an hour ago and surprise it has 4.0.4. with no update available. WTF. So I try multiple times to call google support and it hangs up on me every time. Just thought I would let you guys know, it may not actually come with JB. I'm pissed off right now.
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#firstworldproblems

colts187 said:
So I ordered a galaxy nexus the first day of I/O after the price drop and the announcement they would ship with Jellybean. I got mine an hour ago and surprise it has 4.0.4. with no update available. WTF. So I try multiple times to call google support and it hangs up on me every time. Just thought I would let you guys know, it may not actually come with JB. I'm pissed off right now.
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You're pissed? Are you unable to read?
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=galaxy_nexus_hspa
OS
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Ships with Android 4.0
Soon upgraded to Android 4.1, Jelly Bean
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It says it right there on the page!
Ships with Android 4.0
Ships with Android 4.0
Ships with Android 4.0
And you want to waste Google's phone support time with this too? WOW.
JUST.
FREAKING.
WOW.

I was going to get the S3 for my wife, but considering the lower price of GN (by $200) and minor differences in features and functions that would not mean much to my wife, I have decided to get this phone instead. The prospect of putting the new Jelly Bean OS really did tip the balance for my decision, though. I like that buttery smooth operation of Jelly Bean. I'll probably put the custom ROM on hers before giving it to her. I don't think providing customer service for her would be a problem for me~

My advice, patiance. Let's just hope they keep providing the URL's. So we can download and manually flash the rom.
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You could have gotten a non nexus phone and gotten jellybean right about when key lime pie comes out... plus Google actually lives up to their ota estimates. Enjoy your nexus and be patient, you'll still have it long before any non nexus phone.
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starnostar said:
You could have gotten a non nexus phone and gotten jellybean right about when key lime pie comes out... plus Google actually lives up to their ota estimates. Enjoy your nexus and be patient, you'll still have it long before any non nexus phone.
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I love that we are getting JB now just after a couple months the rest of the world started getting ICS.

In 2-3 weeks there will be released versions of JB. It seems like a pretty short wait for the official version. If you are running stock, I don't think it is worth putting the hacked version on your phone unless you know what you are doing.

colts187 said:
So I ordered a galaxy nexus the first day of I/O after the price drop and the announcement they would ship with Jellybean. I got mine an hour ago and surprise it has 4.0.4. with no update available. WTF. So I try multiple times to call google support and it hangs up on me every time. Just thought I would let you guys know, it may not actually come with JB. I'm pissed off right now.
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Learn to read and listen you must young Padawan.

A quick word about JB hate.

We've seen lots of complaining in the last couple of days about what is and isn't working in these ports.
It seems GPS may or may not be working correctly, that it may or may not be due to the Leap Second.
WiFi, Bluetooth, volume... if you have these issues, they can mostly be remedied. If not, gratz.
The fact is, these Roms are ports of development previews on a phone slightly but importantly different than yours running an OS that hasn't been released yet.
I was deeply amazed and impressed that some developers had working ports to CDMA the very night it was announced for GSM.
I'd you are running one of these JB ports and you find that it works well enough as a daily driver, consider yourself fortunate and hit the thanks button on the OP, maybe even donate.
If you are trying it out, but find that it lacks the stability or functionality that you require, click the thanks button on the OP anyway because they spent the time to give you something now for free that which you would otherwise have to wait weeks for, or, considering VZW's track record, maybe never.
This is how I'm looking at it- I'm getting to preview the latest update for free before it officially comes available. Just like those lucky bastards at Google I/O, except how much did they pay per ticket?
Thanks, devs, for doing what you do.
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Jubomime said:
This is how I'm looking at it- I'm getting to preview the latest update for free before it officially comes available. Just like those lucky bastards at Google I/O, except how much did they pay per ticket?
Thanks, devs, for doing what you do.
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They paid $900 per ticket. But they get $1200 or so free of stuff. So they actually received 300 for going to it if you look at it that way.
Nevertheless I'm very pleased with JB. Everything is working beautiful for me. I using daily driver now without any issues. Just the stock JB at that. I'm not much for all the features of Roms. More into kernel tweaks which I do miss from glados kernel. But Franco is doing fine for now.

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They paid $900 per ticket. But they get $1200 or so free of stuff. So they actually received 300 for going to it if you look at it that way.
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Thats why I put going to Google IO one year at least on my bucket list.

i think people are forgetting these roms are from nandroids! lol!

I most definitely appreciate the efforts. I ran the Vicious JB stock port on my VZW Gnex but in the end, I couldn't stick with it because the Verizon framework apps don't work on Jelly Bean yet. This means I couldn't use the My Verizon or NFL Mobile apps, and that's a deal breaker. I understand that you can blame Verizon for requiring the back end framework in order for their branded apps to work, and that's all fine and well, but at the end of the day, I couldn't run them.
Be that as it is, I still appreciate the efforts of those developers to have a working CDMA port the same night. Thanks to all who do what you do. I'm a software developer myself so I know how tedious this crap can be.

Half of the JB "hate" posts are not "my app doesn't work, JB sucks!" but rather "my app doesn't work, I'm posting it in case someone has stumbled upon a fix"

The problem is 80% of the people who own a GN are:
a. Bronies (so they're inherently tools),
b. it's their first Android device (so they're inherently tools).

CMNein said:
The problem is 80% of the people who own a GN are:
a. Bronies (so they're inherently tools),
b. it's their first Android device (so they're inherently tools).
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Thanks for such an insightful comment. Any more bright ideas?
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chancy319 said:
Thanks for such an insightful comment. Any more bright ideas?
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No, it succinctly indicates the issue at hand.
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oldblue910 said:
I most definitely appreciate the efforts. I ran the Vicious JB stock port on my VZW Gnex but in the end, I couldn't stick with it because the Verizon framework apps don't work on Jelly Bean yet. This means I couldn't use the My Verizon or NFL Mobile apps, and that's a deal breaker. I understand that you can blame Verizon for requiring the back end framework in order for their branded apps to work, and that's all fine and well, but at the end of the day, I couldn't run them.
Be that as it is, I still appreciate the efforts of those developers to have a working CDMA port the same night. Thanks to all who do what you do. I'm a software developer myself so I know how tedious this crap can be.
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I used My Verizon on JB. You just need to install the VerizonSSO apk in order for it to work...I can upload the file if you need it.

well you know what the say "everything's amazing these days, nobody's happy"

[email protected] said:
I used My Verizon on JB. You just need to install the VerizonSSO apk in order for it to work...I can upload the file if you need it.
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Would you mind? I can find download locations out there but I'm not sure what version's needed.

CMNein said:
The problem is 80% of the people who own a GN are:
a. Bronies (so they're inherently tools),
b. it's their first Android device (so they're inherently tools).
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I hate you for making me google bronies.

jesusice said:
I hate you for making me google bronies.
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Bring on the hate :cyclops:

These aren't "ports" of Jelly Bean roms. They are the real deal made specifically for this chipset and device. And, everything works.

I had to look up bronies as well.... I am sending along my hate alone with jesusice

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These aren't "ports" of Jelly Bean roms. They are the real deal made specifically for this chipset and device. And, everything works.
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That sort of depends. There are some changes that have to be made to a ROM for the GSM model to be 'ported' to the CDMA models. So, it's a 'port' for those phones, because only the GSM developer preview was 'released'.

They do realize other top phones are just getting ice cream sandwich, and we Nexii already have Jelly Beans sweet taste in our mouths?? Ridiculous!
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One of those lucky ones everything is working just fine, still couldn't see any issues, and I flashed my phone on the 28/06

Funny how ICS was the major update but jb is more of a complete experience.
butter and jelly please...

No official JB update until 2013! samsung did it again!

so this has been a terrible issue with samsung since the galaxy s 1 days... im sick and tired of slow updates.. whats your thoughts on this ? will it change your mind on what phone to get next?
http://www.androidauthority.com/u-s-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-update-released-coming-months-123557/

HRodMusic said:
so this has been a terrible issue with samsung since the galaxy s 1 days... im sick and tired of slow updates.. whats your thoughts on this ? will it change your mind on what phone to get next?
http://www.androidauthority.com/u-s-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-update-released-coming-months-123557/
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IMO, It really doesn't matter! I have used JB and ICS on my phone, and other than Google Now, I don't see the need to update to JB.
I look at it like this... the standard consumer is not rooted. The OEM and carrier have to smooth out bugs, and make the transition from ICS -> JB a seemless integration. This makes for a better customer experience.
Thats the business man... why release a sub par product and have thousands of support tickets for small minor issues.
From your sig, you're running JB already.

Pretty depressing if you ask me. God if the new nexus phone wasn't being made by LG I'd probably be all over that thing at this point.
It will have 4.2 before we even get 4.1
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Telus' S3 will get JB before the end of November, so I'm thinking we should be very close by.

Full application of project butter in an official release of jb will be worth it. Only reason my nexus is still stock is that the only rom on the s3 that comes close to matching its fluidity, for me at least, is tasks aokp. It's night, and day. Slow rollouts of software are just one of those burdens of this era in development. Fortunately, the software is beginning to be more, and more worth it. Someday you'll lecture your grandkids on how we didn't have all this fancy "cognitive request firmware updates, and 5tb/second data speeds" lol
Pink pony Gs2 i777
Pure Google Gnex i9250
Pink stallion Gs3 i747
Stock tweaked Asus tf201

jbizz said:
IMO, It really doesn't matter! I have used JB and ICS on my phone, and other than Google Now, I don't see the need to update to JB.
I look at it like this... the standard consumer is not rooted. The OEM and carrier have to smooth out bugs, and make the transition from ICS -> JB a seemless integration. This makes for a better customer experience.
Thats the business man... why release a sub par product and have thousands of support tickets for small minor issues.
From your sig, you're running JB already.
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i get what you mean man, but its seriously been 5 months, dont you think we could of had an updated by then? how long does it really take to release an update..

HRodMusic said:
i get what you mean man, but its seriously been 5 months, dont you think we could of had an updated by then? how long does it really take to release an update..
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*shrugs* there was an update from 4.0.2 to 4.0.4
I know what you're saying tho... I always look at devs like the CM team who have already put out updates way before the OEM and think... how come a billion dollar company is so slow?
I wish carriers would allow users to do soak tests and **** before release to send bug reports and stuff.
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Stupid app take out my cuss word! Hah!!!
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By the time we even get Android 4.1, Android 4.2 will already be out in the market.

First, 4.2 will not be key lime pie.
Second, its not Samsungs fault, its the carriers.

And being the carriers fault - you have to wonder. Do they each only have like 2 people working on the Updates...or wtf. lol

jbizz said:
I know what you're saying tho... I always look at devs like the CM team who have already put out updates way before the OEM and think... how come a billion dollar company is so slow?
I wish carriers would allow users to do soak tests and **** before release to send bug reports and stuff.
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Because when there is a bug in CM, they can go *shrug*, we'll add it to the known issues list, like the bluetooth audio not working right. When there is a bug in a carrier supplied ROM, think of all the people that are going to want to call AT&T and be like 'Hey this isn't working, FIX IT!'. That costs money to pay the customer service people and it costs money from a PR point of view.
The carriers strive to make things as bug free as possible (which, is laughable considering some of the updates some carriers have pushed out, or even the state of a phone at release *cough*G2x*cough*). If they don't do super extensive testing on everything BEFORE the release, they're going to have to do the same testing AFTER the release, but after it costs them money in customer service and PR image.

It sucks that another manufacturer/carrier is delaying the update. Do we buy a phone on the promise/hope we will see the next update? I don't. "Why am I not getting update XX" seems to be a common complaint. I came from the Atrix 2. Motorola promissed ICS and an unlockable bootloader. The phone is now borderline if not already end of life with At&t and is just getting the ICS update and still a locked bootloader. I bought my GSIII with the thought "cool I will get JB" but didn't care when. With all of the leaks available, if you want JB, you can get it. Seeing some of the bugs in the leaks, do you really want that to be your update? If you got the update and had these bugs, thered posts of "how could they release this buggy version?" Don't get me wrong, I would like to see manufactures and carriers stand by their word, but I realize there are more important things to worry about than why my update is delayed or not getting it. If you want a phone that guarantees you'll see an update, get a ,cough cough, Iphone. Not all features may work but hey, you'll get your update. My one and a half cents and a THANKS to the hard working devs that bring us these leaks and roms (FOR FREE) to satisfy our need to update. YOU GUYS ROCK!

This phone is awesome straight out of the box. I'm just a flash junkie and I love new shiny stuff. I wonder if there's a support group for flash addicts?

I dont understand why carriers have to tweak the software when samsung already does it. I dont think carriers change the software that much that it takes so long. Someone please enlighten me
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jmacdonald19 said:
This phone is awesome straight out of the box. I'm just a flash junkie and I love new shiny stuff. I wonder if there's a support group for flash addicts?
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Lol
I'm sure a huge population ate xda are
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viking2.0 said:
I dont understand why carriers have to tweak the software when samsung already does it. I dont think carriers change the software that much that it takes so long. Someone please enlighten me
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Its not the OS they are changing, it takes them this long to make their BS bloatware work.

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Its not the OS they are changing, it takes them this long to make their BS bloatware work.
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Well and doing carrier certification. I think that's more of what ends up taking a long time than updating any carrier add-on software.

Sprint is receiving their OTA to JB starting today. So I'm sure we're not too far behind.
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this sucks but never a problem with custom roms and Samsung is the easiest to update.

I'm new to Android, so maybe that makes me naive. But, I'd like to bring up a few points:
1) How do you know JB for the AT&T GS3 is delayed until 2013? No one has given a release date. Heck, it might be 2014 or 2015. It's misleading to post a title like that.
2) "Coming months:" this ambiguity goes both ways. Sprint released their GS3 JB OTA update today.
3) AT&T is taking long to update their bloatware?! There are three stupid apps: AT&T Hotspots, AT&T Messages, and AT&T Navigator. AND AT&T's already released the Note 2, which comes with Jelly Bean. Thus, these apps have already been updated to work with Jelly Bean!
The holdup on AT&T's part is something else...