These pictures were leaked on Reddit today, interestingly enough the Incredible 2 is listed as having a small update coming (32MB, It says 32GB - obviously an error).
Here is the thread link:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/stwkl/vzw_update_list_0424_ics_for_rezound_razrmaxx_and/
Our device information can be found here:
http://i.imgur.com/sMbVA.jpg
I cannot say if this post is legit or not. Just wanted to share.
mythofsisyphus said:
These pictures were leaked on Reddit today, interestingly enough the Incredible 2 is listed as having a small update coming (32MB, It says 32GB - obviously an error).
Here is the thread link:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/stwkl/vzw_update_list_0424_ics_for_rezound_razrmaxx_and/
Our device information can be found here:
http://i.imgur.com/sMbVA.jpg
I cannot say if this post is legit or not. Just wanted to share.
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This is in agreement with what I've read regarding a test of the update starting on 4/6. I've also read that a leak was possibly imminent. Eagerly waiting! Thanks for the info.
its an incremental update from 5.10.xxx to 6. something
ive seen the leak (although i didnt flash it)
still gb, nothing to write home about
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its an incremental update from 5.10.xxx to 6. something
ive seen the leak (although i didnt flash it)
still gb, nothing to write home about
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Booo.
Thanks for the clarification though.
nitsuj17 said:
its an incremental update from 5.10.xxx to 6. something
ive seen the leak (although i didnt flash it)
still gb, nothing to write home about
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I assumed it was just bug fixes due to the size. Oh well, didn't know it leaked already.
nitsuj17 said:
its an incremental update from 5.10.xxx to 6. something
ive seen the leak (although i didnt flash it)
still gb, nothing to write home about
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I guess that's why people aren't going nuts over it. I'm sure if people saw a leak of ICS for the Inc2, we would have heard by now.
mythofsisyphus said:
I assumed it was just bug fixes due to the size. Oh well, didn't know it leaked already.
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well, some people have it...but its not leaked as in roms will be modded for it or anything
Would you know if the people that have it would be willing to say what's supposedly fixed?
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Would you know if the people that have it would be willing to say what's supposedly fixed?
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i honestly dont know, i dont think anyone had a changelog that im aware of
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i honestly dont know, i dont think anyone had a changelog that im aware of
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Cool. Thank you for sharing!
At least 3.6 to play with.
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It says that the OTA size is 32GB. My phones gonna explode!
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It says that the OTA size is 32GB. My phones gonna explode!
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Finally somebody noticed that piece of garbage... Unless... Unless... (gasp!)
We are getting Zabaione, people!!! We are getting Android 21.0!!! (I suppose that "Z" would be 21.0)...
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Check it out! You WILL LOSE ROOT!
I just wanted to make this thread for the rumored OTA, once it's out someone post here. Can't wait for that FPS boost, it'ss be even better than 53 fps!
(BTW if you don't know which OTA I'm referring to, see this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699290 I made this thread because this is only reguarding this OTA, and is a small thread, meanwhile that one is 141 pages, so... yea)
Anyone know if this OTA will include the stagefright fixes (which made Pandora on 3G work again) from 3.28 ? I'd assume it will but just wanna make sure before installing it.
Host, Then Post.
Previous OTA's have been released about 12pm eastern that I have noticed, so if there's one coming, it should be in the next couple of hours
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I just wanted to make this thread for the rumored OTA, once it's out someone post here. Can't wait for that FPS boost, it'ss be even better than 53 fps!
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I haven't seen anything about a new OTA... especially something lifting the FPS cap... where's the source? I seriously must've missed something huge..
Im wondering the same question Lol, where it is?
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Im wondering the same question Lol, where it is?
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See this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699290
CHECK THIS OUT
http://support.sprint.com/support/a...e-wh164052-20100527-115429?&INTNAV=SU:DP:HDIA
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See this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699290
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yep its definitely coming... now if it has any sort of FPS or GPS fixes, that's the 'big secret':
http://support.sprint.com/support/a...e-wh164052-20100527-115429?&INTNAV=SU:DP:HDIA
3.29, passed right by yet unreleased OTA 3.28.. how's this possible leaks of OTA, PRI and full RUU (NV1.71) and nobody caught this one until practically it's release date. Haha they using good tactics..
-CC
Shouldn't this be moved to q&a section
sent from my DAMN EVO!
The update on Sprints site says nothing about an FPS break...
maybe sprint doesnt consider fixing the 30fps cap a new feature, but rather a bug fix so they didnt include it? Hell I really dont know. I would like 60fps, ALL THE TIME. without "hacks" to get it to work. ooo and full HDMI please. LOL
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yep its definitely coming... now if it has any sort of FPS or GPS fixes, that's the 'big secret':
http://support.sprint.com/support/a...e-wh164052-20100527-115429?&INTNAV=SU:DP:HDIA
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Well, the changelog for 3.26.651.6 makes no mention of Froyo, probably the biggest change. So there's still hope.
clockcycle said:
3.29, passed right by yet unreleased OTA 3.28.. how's this possible leaks of OTA, PRI and full RUU (NV1.71) and nobody caught this one until practically it's release date. Haha they using good tactics..
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perhaps htc is finally using the leaks as a way of testing, because they dont have enough in house testers with all the new devices they keep releasing?
they have even started farming out business to OEM partners so they can put out an android tablet and still maintain the mobile phone schedule.
^
I started receiving a notification on the 21st that an update was avail for the voicemail app - no other Sprint flavored updates yet. Raleigh, NC area location.
Well I'm off to school. Hopefully by the time I get back its ready to be installed.
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Word on the street is that the update is out.
ROFL, look at the tags on the bottom of this page http://support.sprint.com/support/a...e-wh164052-20100527-115429?&INTNAV=SU:DP:HDIA :
'1 3.26.651.3 bummer cool current software Froyo hurry up hurry up lazy Lie Fraud Not Avai picinpic Sprint lies tap menu ttt update update 1.47.651.1 waiting"
?
Has anyone received the update and been able to pull it for dev review?
Engadget's picked this up
Talked with samsung support in norway today,they release 2.2 next week
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And i talked to Samsung Sweden yesterday. They told me that we will have it within 2 days. But i dont really believe them...
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stianbert said:
Talked with samsung support in norway today,they release 2.2 next week
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Great! It looks the end of september is the date for froyo update indeed. Good.
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Great! It looks the end of september is the date for froyo update indeed. Good.
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We'll see how good it's gonna be. Having in mind the latest Froyo updates...
if they're going to release JPH with release version number "JPH" im going to laugh
Dear Samsung,
Just give us the JPH source code and we will do the rest.
Regards,
Michael
don't really believe them
Yes, sounds like its coming very soon indeed, i called Samsung Sweden yesterday for another cause but i asked them about 2.2 and they said that they hoped to have it released on kies before the week ends..
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Dear Samsung,
Just give us the JPH source code and we will do the rest.
Regards,
Michael
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Amen!
Also got this confirmed. Give us what they have! If there still are bugs, let them fix them later. EVERYTHING is better than jf3...
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Also got this confirmed. Give us what they have! If there still are bugs, let them fix them later. EVERYTHING is better than jf3...
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Except for the negative image for samsung if they deliver a crappy froyo release. I'm so afraid this is going to be disappointing for many people who expect their devices to be 4 times as fast and stuff...
I just hope for a proper stable release, preferably with the filesystem changed (but I doubt that's gonna happen) which just works good out of the box.
There too many weird bugs in JPH to be released as final. I had an alarm set,m removed it and it still went off later on the day. Apart from that other people reported tons of small and big bugs and issues.
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There too many weird bugs in JPH to be released as final. I had an alarm set,m removed it and it still went off later on the day. Apart from that other people reported tons of small and big bugs and issues.
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Experienced the same on official jm2
I don't expect that much from official release. Moreover I can't understand the reason why they had to limit the ram amount in 2.1. Than about jit...hum do they know what is it?
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I don't expect that much from official release. Moreover I can't understand the reason why they had to limit the ram amount in 2.1. Than about jit...hum do they know what is it?
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There are no limit of ram in 2.1, the 2.1 sgs uses already have highmem support.
Its samsungs bloated firmware that reserve more than 200MB for itself.
why galaxy tab have 425 MB of ram ? hardware is the same. and why galaxy tab play 1080p videos ?
haha, just called samsung support austria and the guy told me that he doesn't know exactly when it will come, he can only tell me that it will be this year (most likely) ... *bad* samsung, *bad*
any idea what firmware I need to have installed for kies to detect a new firmware update incase one gets released.
I am currently using JM8 but thats after all not an officisl firmware so not expecting keys to find updates.
pharaohdk said:
any idea what firmware I need to have installed for kies to detect a new firmware update incase one gets released.
I am currently using JM8 but thats after all not an officisl firmware so not expecting keys to find updates.
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JM1 rev. 3 - you can install it via Kies faking some registry settings - all was descibed on this forum. No root, no lag fix. JM1 official is bareable without lag fix.
rdy2go said:
JM1 rev. 3 - you can install it via Kies faking some registry settings - all was descibed on this forum. No root, no lag fix. JM1 official is bareable without lag fix.
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okay ive found the topic, but im not sure what I need to put in these two lines.
text said:
"SoftwareRevision"=
"HIDSWVER"=
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For it to update to Scandi/danish version.
Question is in the title. Am I the only one?
EDIT: I mean I didn't recieved the OTA update.
4.2 was only made available yesterday! The whole world hasn't updated in just over 24 hours.
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4.2 was only made available yesterday! The whole world hasn't updated in just over 24 hours.
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in the impatient people's minds it has.
WiredPirate said:
4.2 was only made available yesterday! The whole world hasn't updated in just over 24 hours.
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Im sorry, what I actually meant, is that am I the only one who didnt recieved it.
Jaay1337 said:
Im sorry, what I actually meant, is that am I the only one who didnt recieved it.
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you're still missing the point. the rollout is not every phone at once, its staggered.
Jaay1337 said:
Im sorry, what I actually meant, is that am I the only one who didnt recieved it.
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Right, it is still rolling out. You will eventually see it for sure. If you just cant wait, I have a feeling you might find the DL link somewhere on the forums here.
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you're still missing the point. the rollout is not every phone at once, its staggered.
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Thanks for the info, I just wanted to be sure
EDIT: Seems I had to cry on the forums to recieve it, haha thanks google
Proof: http://1drv.ms/OJ2Bgr
PS: Read it all:good::good:
Håvi said:
Proof: http://1drv.ms/OJ2Bgr
PS: Read it all:good::good:
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That's already known.. the problem is them keeping the release date (or estimated release date), tight-lipped.
DazTip said:
That's already known.. the problem is them keeping the release date (or estimated release date), tight-lipped.
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Thats just to be sure if it will come:good:
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Thats just to be sure if it will come:good:
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Yeah because it would be the first time they didn't follow through with what they said...
Hopeful
As much as I hope it is released for our phones, a single person who does live chats all day may not be the most rock-solid source. Any number of things could turn out to have happened, from misreading an information sheet before giving you said information to her being just plain wrong.
Thank you for posting this though, it is important that up to date information like that is made public. Its just that I'm not sure if one representative saying it is on its way is a complete confirmation.
Does anyone know how reliable these live chats usually are?
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As much as I hope it is released for our phones, a single person who does live chats all day may not be the most rock-solid source. Any number of things could turn out to have happened, from misreading an information sheet before giving you said information to her being just plain wrong.
Thank you for posting this though, it is important that up to date information like that is made public. Its just that I'm not sure if one representative saying it is on its way is a complete confirmation.
Does anyone know how reliable these live chats usually are?
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Not very reliable in this case since they are not allowed to give too much information out to the public. I posted a thread after I talked to one of Samsung's live representatives and they told me that the update would come in a matter of weeks. You can check my thread out if you want.
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Not very reliable in this case since they are not allowed to give too much information out to the public. I posted a thread after I talked to one of Samsung's live representatives and they told me that the update would come in a matter of weeks. You can check my thread out if you want.
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Ah yes I found that thread. Well if it was more than just one confirmation that adds too the legitimacy :good: I don't want to get my hopes up but its looking good!
I'd love for this to be true. I'm holding off on updating to a custom rom in case they push KitKat and it doesn't work after using the stock restore posted.
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My post on the rumor thread
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I was talking with AT&T repair regarding my phone freezing when switching from portrait to landscape since the 4.3 OTA and they told me they were not aware of a fix coming out for this, but that 4.4 will probably come out in a couple months and it may replace whatever is causing the problem. When I went to the Samsung Experience center to let them force the OTA onto my phone again to see if that would fix the issue, that tech said the same thing about 4.4 coming out, but he thought my freeze issue is hardware related.
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AT&T official statement or it didn't happen !
From Official Samsung
Not sure if this is only US versions but this is a list of devices from the official website
www "DOT" samsung "DOT" com/us/support/faq/FAQ00059206/82024/EFC-1G6FFEGSTA[/url] :good:
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Not sure if this is only US versions but this is a list of devices from the official website
www "DOT" samsung "DOT" com/us/support/faq/FAQ00059206/82024/EFC-1G6FFEGSTA[/url] :good:
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I just went to change my sim card to one with secure element, and ask guy at At&t store ( is said "manager" on his name tag) about kitkat for S3. He answer
We don't have any specific date, but I heard it should be at mid May.
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Make sense since S5 will be release in April so they can bust sell of S5 before they let us have it KitKat on S3.
Can anyone explain what would be the advantage of an official kk rollout from AT&T?
At this point in time AOSP kk roms are fully functional, no need to hang with an ugly fat chick like touchwiz haha
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I've been using kk with pwncake's Quantum ROM for so long now, that I'm not very inclined to go back to touchwiz either. It's just too late.
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Until there's an official update rolled out, I won't believe it
sgloki77 said:
Can anyone explain what would be the advantage of an official kk rollout from AT&T?
At this point in time AOSP kk roms are fully functional, no need to hang with an ugly fat chick like touchwiz haha
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Kit Kat does bring down memory usage, so if you use or want some of the S applications and features that Touchwiz has, you should see better performance due to released memory.
Theoretically that is, I've been on CM11 nightlies for awhile now.
Some cant work with non stock roms...
sgloki77 said:
Can anyone explain what would be the advantage of an official kk rollout from AT&T?
At this point in time AOSP kk roms are fully functional, no need to hang with an ugly fat chick like touchwiz haha
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xhozt said:
Some cant work with non stock roms...
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Or, like me, simply do prefer them over AOSP ROMs
Anyway, Xposed now fills the gap of what's missing in most cases
Deonta23 said:
Not sure if this is only US versions but this is a list of devices from the official website
www "DOT" samsung "DOT" com/us/support/faq/FAQ00059206/82024/EFC-1G6FFEGSTA[/url] :good:
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There you go !
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/faq/FAQ00059206/82024/EFC-1G6FFEGSTA
Thats nice
Its not really important since most stock TouchWiz roms are total ****, especially those from samsung.
what is 2.6.605.10? latest OTA? if it is,where can i got the zip file? anyone could help ?
xchang168 said:
what is 2.6.605.10? latest OTA? if it is,where can i got the zip file? anyone could help ?
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No it isn't out for OTA.. yet, but this is what is expected to be the Verizon Android 5.1 OTA.
andybones said:
No it isn't out for OTA.. yet, but this is what is expected to be the Verizon Android 5.1 OTA.
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thanks,waiting for the OTA.
xchang168 said:
thanks,waiting for the OTA.
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If you are S=OFF, you can flash the leaked firmware and the stock 5.1 rom and it will be as if you took the ota (and much more).
new firmware on older rom
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If you are S=OFF, you can flash the leaked firmware and the stock 5.1 rom and it will be as if you took the ota (and much more).
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Can you use the newer firmware (vzwm9ota5_1firmwareTWRP2864.zip) with M9 original 5.0.2 stock rom?
michaelbsheldon said:
Can you use the newer firmware (vzwm9ota5_1firmwareTWRP2864.zip) with M9 original 5.0.2 stock rom?
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No, you will get instant boot loops.
May I ask why you would want to run a new firmware and not the new ROM?
Old habits die hard: on the M7, newest firmware worked with most rom verisons.
The M9 is different, as I'm learning. Thanks for the answer..
I think the next M9 Verizon OTA will be 2.6.605.12. Been testing that ROM out and it's pretty solid. They definitely have the camera software updated; took some fantastic macro images with it yesterday as "reference" images for another handset I'm testing.
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I think the next M9 Verizon OTA will be 2.6.605.12. Been testing that ROM out and it's pretty solid. They definitely have the camera software updated; took some fantastic macro images with it yesterday as "reference" images for another handset I'm testing.
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Have you tried the raw image capture yet? I haven't tested.
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No, you will get instant boot loops.
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The M9 is different, as I'm learning. Thanks for the answer..
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I'm going to be testing this today. I feel like you should be able to run roms below 5.1.
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Have you tried the raw image capture yet? I haven't tested.
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No; I don't really have the software (or software platform) to play with RAW images. I just took a few; the interface is pretty decent. A lot easier to adjust settings manually. Admittedly, the lack of OIS somewhat offsets the ability to do RAW. I still much prefer the M9 camera to my M8. Not even a close call there.
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I'm going to be testing this today. I feel like you should be able to run roms below 5.1.
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I felt the same way, when I was initially testing 5.1 and couldnt get deodex to boot, I decided to go back to my 5.0.2 ROM, and had to flash back to 5.0.2 firmware due to boot loop issues.
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I think the next M9 Verizon OTA will be 2.6.605.12. Been testing that ROM out and it's pretty solid. They definitely have the camera software updated; took some fantastic macro images with it yesterday as "reference" images for another handset I'm testing.
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Macro is definitely the one thing I notice. My rezound used to take stellar macro pictures so I keep doing the keyboard photo test on this phone to compare and it is getting much better for sure
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I'm going to be testing this today. I feel like you should be able to run roms below 5.1.
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I ran the new firmware with Viper 2.3.1 (which is 5.0.x based). I didn't have any boot loops, but it did randomly reboot a few times. It wasn't a full reboot either - it only took ~15 seconds, so I think it was more like a Sense reboot and not the full ROM (??).
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I think the next M9 Verizon OTA will be 2.6.605.12. Been testing that ROM out and it's pretty solid.
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And you haven't given NEO a copy of it yet ?
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I ran the new firmware with Viper 2.3.1 (which is 5.0.x based). I didn't have any boot loops, but it did randomly reboot a few times. It wasn't a full reboot either - it only took ~15 seconds, so I think it was more like a Sense reboot and not the full ROM (??).
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And you haven't given NEO a copy of it yet ?
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We have these things called "NDA's", and I need to adhere to it as in between ROM flashes I practice law.
I have seen a reference (can't remember where) to a Sense 7.1 ---- wonder if that's what it's about. Might have just been something I misread without my reading glasses on.
And, FWIW, there is a small clique of testers who are in regular touch (I'll let them out themselves) and that's how you see some things pop up so fast.....they're ready to roll as soon as devices are public, so the NDA no longer bars release.
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We have these things called "NDA's", and I need to adhere to it as in between ROM flashes I practice law.
I have seen a reference (can't remember where) to a Sense 7.1 ---- wonder if that's what it's about. Might have just been something I misread without my reading glasses on.
And, FWIW, there is a small clique of testers who are in regular touch (I'll let them out themselves) and that's how you see some things pop up so fast.....they're ready to roll as soon as devices are public, so the NDA no longer bars release.
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But... You haven't given Neo a copy of it yet???
I'll find a way so no worries breaking your NDA since I know you were super close to deciding to give it to me... Right? Right?!
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We have these things called "NDA's", and I need to adhere to it as in between ROM flashes I practice law.
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I know what NDAs are, don't worry. I'm actually surprised that the HTC NDA even allows you to acknowledge that you're testing software or further, making comments about how it's working.
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I know what NDAs are, don't worry. I'm actually surprised that the HTC NDA even allows you to acknowledge that you're testing software or further, making comments about how it's working.
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He's not supposed to actually. Hence the Non-Disclosure part of it lol. Everyone knows it's coming though and it's not like he's given away any info other than it runs smooth.
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He's not supposed to actually. Hence the Non-Disclosure part of it lol. Everyone knows it's coming though and it's not like he's given away any info other than it runs smooth.
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Right, and technically, I play pretty close to the limits. I didn't talk about the hardware until the hardware specs were released, and I haven't talked about software until it's been released. I've also qualified a lot of my posts with "I suspect," or "I expect" when I actually knew. For instance, there were lots of rumors about what the M9 would look like while I had one in my hand from January on. All I would post (until the release) was a variation on "I don't think so."
They see us testers as somewhat evangalistic, which is probably accurate. I won't criticize a device prerelease because it could always get better. But ask me anything about the M8, which I've had since release date last year, or the Desire 612 which I tested last summer, and I won't hold back.
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Right, and technically, I play pretty close to the limits. I didn't talk about the hardware until the hardware specs were released, and I haven't talked about software until it's been released. I've also qualified a lot of my posts with "I suspect," or "I expect" when I actually knew. For instance, there were lots of rumors about what the M9 would look like while I had one in my hand from January on. All I would post (until the release) was a variation on "I don't think so."
They see us testers as somewhat evangalistic, which is probably accurate. I won't criticize a device prerelease because it could always get better. But ask me anything about the M8, which I've had since release date last year, or the Desire 612 which I tested last summer, and I won't hold back.
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So, just for curiosity sake, how did you end up pretesting m9 and roms specifically. Did you have a golden ticket, or did they ask you, do you work for Verizon or HTC. Just curious, nothing else