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[Rumor] Official Froyo on Sept. 23 for i9000

http://phandroid.com/2010/09/14/samsung-galaxy-s-i9000-to-get-android-2-2-september-23rd

(drooling) for froyo!
in case the link above does not work. (for me it doesn't)
http://www.androidcentral.com/official-froyo-update-uk-galaxy-s-september

don't expect that froyo can do wonders. have a low expectation first (like there will still be bugs) and if the froyo update perform better than expected, then it is a bonus. if you have high expectation, and it turns out worse, then we shall see a lot of unnecessary threads in here.

g00ndu said:
don't expect that froyo can do wonders. have a low expectation first (like there will still be bugs) and if the froyo update perform better than expected, then it is a bonus. if you have high expectation, and it turns out worse, then we shall see a lot of unnecessary threads in here.
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ditto, just excited

Yay!
I hope they at least have fixed lag and gps problems.
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if official is equally better than JPC was compared to JP3 then I'm happy

fua said:
if official is equally better than JPC was compared to JP3 then I'm happy
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Christ, how bad was JP3 then?
Lets just hope the official one is MUCH better than JPC, because it really needs to be. I won't hold my breath though, not one bit.

tameracingdriver said:
Christ, how bad was JP3 then?
Lets just hope the official one is MUCH better than JPC, because it really needs to be. I won't hold my breath though, not one bit.
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I agree...If not, than I stay on Eclair 2.1
Regards

tameracingdriver said:
Christ, how bad was JP3 then?
Lets just hope the official one is MUCH better than JPC, because it really needs to be. I won't hold my breath though, not one bit.
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Couldn't agree more, I have high hopes but low expectations...

Well i only care for the source of froyo so curio can compile the new lagfix for 2.2

I hope its true... And I hope Samsung give us all a heads-up when its due to land, no just shoving out the back door unexpectedly.
Wishlist:
1. Reformat data partition to EXT4 or YAFFS2.
2. Better battery life
3. Typical Froyo features (apps2sd, batch/auto-update apps, JIT, animated gifs in browser)
I wonder what it would mean for Project Voodoo if they do sort out the file system.... I guess Supercurio can concentrate on the colour fix then (unless that is sorted too!)

BackfireNL said:
Well i only care for the source of froyo so curio can compile the new lagfix for 2.2
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Likewise...

Rumour has it that Korea will have froyo update in august!
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Froyo....... I hope this is true I hope they fix my gps
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iammichel said:
Rumour has it that Korea will have froyo update in august!
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Your sarcasm isn't really necessary. Yes it was rumoured to be out in Korea in August but it was exactly that, a rumour! No one heard specifically from Samsung that it would be and thus only fools should have expected it would. September on the other hand http://twitter.com/samsungukmobile as mentioned numerous times (most recently last night) is the set update period for the i9000 therefore this OP could very well be right. I wouldn't get my heart set on the 23rd but as has been OFFICIALLY confirmed multiple times il deffinitly be tasting some froyo before months end...

yeah.. im checking the web every single day since the month start just to know weather the updates has been rolling out or not.. guess this rumor will speed up my heartbeat.. lol..

if they don't get it right, the i9k will be my first and last samsung.
However, I guess they don't care. Too many mass market customers who don't really care are worth more than XDA dev enthusiasts who care.

sionyboy said:
Wishlist:
1. Reformat data partition to EXT4 or YAFFS2.
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you can wish for this but i'm sure that they will NOT change rfs to ext4. yaffs is (obviously) not made for the mmc/sd-interface. remember, htc et.al use yaffs for the nand and not the sd! my guess would be that samsung will try to fix the lag-issue by improving the rfs(-driver) or by some crappy memory buffering hack ... i just hope that they will release the kernel source for 2.2 soon because i am sure that we will need some voodoo-love for the new froyo rom

Get rid of rfs. rfs = retarded file system.

I am ready for dissapointments: rfs, lags, no jit, 300mb RAM in 2.2. This way it will be easier to accept a FAIL firmware.

[OTA info] Volume Bug Fix

Samsung are beginning to roll out the fix for the volume bug. https://twitter.com/#!/SamFirmware/status/140471495288823808

Any more info, like a date, when to expect the update?
Oh, wait, it's Samsung, so it will arrive "anytime soon", which means "by the end of November", which actually means "maybe November, but definitely in December"...

Nice, I should have my Nexus by Tues or Wednesday then.

Interesting it's a radio update, not Android or anything lower level.

How will the fix be delivered? direct to the handset via update or USB?

Too bad they don't seem to have a link to it.

rob6raham said:
How will the fix be delivered? direct to the handset via update or USB?
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OTA to the handset.
Once someone gets the OTA - they can pull it from a logcat and get the URL - then anyone can download apply without waiting for their IMEI to be flagged to receive the update.

Hm, but this doesn't seem to be an official Twitter account / Website of Samsung.

MysteriousDiary said:
Hm, but this doesn't seem to be an official Twitter account / Website of Samsung.
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It isn't. But they have good sources.

Chirality said:
Interesting it's a radio update, not Android or anything lower level.
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How do you know it's radio only update?

omrij said:
How do you know it's radio only update?
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because it's referencing an increment to the baseband version, and not mentioning anything about an Android version number.
that being said, we don't know what's going to happen yet...
let's see.

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How do you know it's radio only update?
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Because the name of the update is the name of the baseband,not Android.

I am pretty sure it will be more than just the radio, P3Droid tweeted on the 22nd about ICL52 and Adnroid 4.2 with a new baseband.... When though Samsung??!!

We were told the ICL53b update contained the fix, no mention of the baseband version. I can try to get more info but its a holiday weekend here so no idea if i will be able to reach him.

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I am pretty sure it will be more than just the radio, P3Droid tweeted on the 22nd about ICL52 and Adnroid 4.2 with a new baseband.... When though Samsung??!!
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surely its google, not samsung... as a Nexus it is pure android so will come straight from Google and not via samsung

Whyt_e said:
surely its google, not samsung... as a Nexus it is pure android so will come straight from Google and not via samsung
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As has been proven the bug occurs when the phone is in the bootloader, so it's nothing to do with Android.
The patch needs to be at a hardware level, so it will be firmware update. That comes from Samsung, not Google.

It might be the case that the patch for this particular problem was developed by Samsung but it'll still be released by Google not Samsung. So we are waiting for both but ultimately it'll be Googles decision when to push it. At least that's my understanding of the update process of a Nexus phone.

some people in this thread need to remember a few things:
1) Nexus handsets are made as a collaboration between Google and whoever the chosen manufacturer is.
2) Google push all unbranded Nexus updates, not the manufacturer.
in the case of this update, it will likely be pushed as an update to Android anyway - I have never seen a baseband change come through to an Android handset without it being with an incremental update to Android.

I've got to the stage when I don't care who does what - all I want is an update so that the phone is usable. I suspect many early adopters think the same.

I agree mate. I don't care if apple make the fix. For me this weekend staying in London my phone was unusable in certain parts. Grrrrrrrr
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Kitkat GS3 at&t confirmed

Proof: http://1drv.ms/OJ2Bgr
PS: Read it all:good::good:

Håvi said:
Proof: http://1drv.ms/OJ2Bgr
PS: Read it all:good::good:
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That's already known.. the problem is them keeping the release date (or estimated release date), tight-lipped.

DazTip said:
That's already known.. the problem is them keeping the release date (or estimated release date), tight-lipped.
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Thats just to be sure if it will come:good:

Håvi said:
Thats just to be sure if it will come:good:
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Yeah because it would be the first time they didn't follow through with what they said...

Hopeful
As much as I hope it is released for our phones, a single person who does live chats all day may not be the most rock-solid source. Any number of things could turn out to have happened, from misreading an information sheet before giving you said information to her being just plain wrong.
Thank you for posting this though, it is important that up to date information like that is made public. Its just that I'm not sure if one representative saying it is on its way is a complete confirmation.
Does anyone know how reliable these live chats usually are?

SwaggyDabbyDoo said:
As much as I hope it is released for our phones, a single person who does live chats all day may not be the most rock-solid source. Any number of things could turn out to have happened, from misreading an information sheet before giving you said information to her being just plain wrong.
Thank you for posting this though, it is important that up to date information like that is made public. Its just that I'm not sure if one representative saying it is on its way is a complete confirmation.
Does anyone know how reliable these live chats usually are?
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Not very reliable in this case since they are not allowed to give too much information out to the public. I posted a thread after I talked to one of Samsung's live representatives and they told me that the update would come in a matter of weeks. You can check my thread out if you want.

internethuman said:
Not very reliable in this case since they are not allowed to give too much information out to the public. I posted a thread after I talked to one of Samsung's live representatives and they told me that the update would come in a matter of weeks. You can check my thread out if you want.
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Ah yes I found that thread. Well if it was more than just one confirmation that adds too the legitimacy :good: I don't want to get my hopes up but its looking good!

I'd love for this to be true. I'm holding off on updating to a custom rom in case they push KitKat and it doesn't work after using the stock restore posted.
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My post on the rumor thread
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I was talking with AT&T repair regarding my phone freezing when switching from portrait to landscape since the 4.3 OTA and they told me they were not aware of a fix coming out for this, but that 4.4 will probably come out in a couple months and it may replace whatever is causing the problem. When I went to the Samsung Experience center to let them force the OTA onto my phone again to see if that would fix the issue, that tech said the same thing about 4.4 coming out, but he thought my freeze issue is hardware related.
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AT&T official statement or it didn't happen !

From Official Samsung
Not sure if this is only US versions but this is a list of devices from the official website
www "DOT" samsung "DOT" com/us/support/faq/FAQ00059206/82024/EFC-1G6FFEGSTA[/url] :good:

Deonta23 said:
Not sure if this is only US versions but this is a list of devices from the official website
www "DOT" samsung "DOT" com/us/support/faq/FAQ00059206/82024/EFC-1G6FFEGSTA[/url] :good:
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I just went to change my sim card to one with secure element, and ask guy at At&t store ( is said "manager" on his name tag) about kitkat for S3. He answer
We don't have any specific date, but I heard it should be at mid May.
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Make sense since S5 will be release in April so they can bust sell of S5 before they let us have it KitKat on S3.

Can anyone explain what would be the advantage of an official kk rollout from AT&T?
At this point in time AOSP kk roms are fully functional, no need to hang with an ugly fat chick like touchwiz haha
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I've been using kk with pwncake's Quantum ROM for so long now, that I'm not very inclined to go back to touchwiz either. It's just too late.
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Until there's an official update rolled out, I won't believe it

sgloki77 said:
Can anyone explain what would be the advantage of an official kk rollout from AT&T?
At this point in time AOSP kk roms are fully functional, no need to hang with an ugly fat chick like touchwiz haha
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Kit Kat does bring down memory usage, so if you use or want some of the S applications and features that Touchwiz has, you should see better performance due to released memory.
Theoretically that is, I've been on CM11 nightlies for awhile now.

Some cant work with non stock roms...

sgloki77 said:
Can anyone explain what would be the advantage of an official kk rollout from AT&T?
At this point in time AOSP kk roms are fully functional, no need to hang with an ugly fat chick like touchwiz haha
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xhozt said:
Some cant work with non stock roms...
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Or, like me, simply do prefer them over AOSP ROMs
Anyway, Xposed now fills the gap of what's missing in most cases

Deonta23 said:
Not sure if this is only US versions but this is a list of devices from the official website
www "DOT" samsung "DOT" com/us/support/faq/FAQ00059206/82024/EFC-1G6FFEGSTA[/url] :good:
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There you go !
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/faq/FAQ00059206/82024/EFC-1G6FFEGSTA

Thats nice
Its not really important since most stock TouchWiz roms are total ****, especially those from samsung.

[Q] KK update is still not here on kies (N7100)

Hi guys so I'm helping my friend's Note 2 to manually update it to KK via kies cause OTA is still not available when checking on 'Check for updates' (Yeah it's over a month now and the update is still not there! freaky sam****)
So our problem is the kies dashboard just displays 'Latest firmware' for her device and we cannot see any other option to check updates for KK on kies, that is just stupid :/ Her Note 2 is on JB 4.3, so my question is, is there any possible way on how to get rid of that 'Latest firmware' label on her device via Samsung Kies to be able to get the latest update?
If you're going to say about ODIN or any geeky things to do, she won't allow it lol, she's sick of that, she just wants to upgrade it manually over the kies.

Probably her phone region is on a place that doesn't have the update yet.. aaand of course you cannot change that unless you use Odin.
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JovieBrett said:
Hi guys so I'm helping my friend's Note 2 to manually update it to KK via kies cause OTA is still not available when checking on 'Check for updates' (Yeah it's over a month now and the update is still not there! freaky sam****)
So our problem is the kies dashboard just displays 'Latest firmware' for her device and we cannot see any other option to check updates for KK on kies, that is just stupid :/ Her Note 2 is on JB 4.3, so my question is, is there any possible way on how to get rid of that 'Latest firmware' label on her device via Samsung Kies to be able to get the latest update?
If you're going to say about ODIN or any geeky things to do, she won't allow it lol, she's sick of that, she just wants to upgrade it manually over the kies.
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Only France and India got it via Kies or OTA. So if her phone ain't from those regions she got to wait. As you said she won't allow Odin so tell her to calm down and enjoy 4.3 lol
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singhpratik87 said:
Only France and India got it via Kies or OTA. So if her phone ain't from those regions she got to wait. As you said she won't allow Odin so tell her to calm down and enjoy 4.3 lol
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Would be nice if Samsung actually told people what the release schedule was...

FloatingFatMan said:
Would be nice if Samsung actually told people what the release schedule was...
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I don't think any OEM does that,do they?Anyhow 4.4.2 is seeding to south east asian countries of Philippines , Malaysia , Indonesia and Vietnam .Build # is ND4

singhpratik87 said:
I don't think any OEM does that,do they?Anyhow 4.4.2 is seeding to south east asian countries of Philippines , Malaysia , Indonesia and Vietnam .Build # is ND4
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Very helpful... For those not in south east Asia...
And no, no OEM does that; but that doesn't mean they shouldn't! Over a month now, and still barely rolled out anywhere officially.
At this rate, it'll take them a year to roll out everywhere.

Mohammed779 said:
Probably her phone region is on a place that doesn't have the update yet.. aaand of course you cannot change that unless you use Odin.
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singhpratik87 said:
Only France and India got it via Kies or OTA. So if her phone ain't from those regions she got to wait. As you said she won't allow Odin so tell her to calm down and enjoy 4.3 lol
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Would be nice if Samsung actually told people what the release schedule was...
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I don't think any OEM does that,do they?Anyhow 4.4.2 is seeding to south east asian countries of Philippines , Malaysia , Indonesia and Vietnam .Build # is ND4
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Very helpful... For those not in south east Asia...
And no, no OEM does that; but that doesn't mean they shouldn't! Over a month now, and still barely rolled out anywhere officially.
At this rate, it'll take them a year to roll out everywhere.
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First of all, thanks guys for giving me time answering my stupid question lol, I've ran out of thanks and I promise I'll give you thanks back later!
So yeah why the fvck did samsht announced that they would be releasing the 4.4.2 update so early as last month if they can't even roll out as soon as possible? that's insane it's almost a month now and the update is not even rolling out here (btw I live in Manila, Ph)
I agree with @FloatingFatMan, they should have not told people what the REAL thing of the release schedule was :silly: talking about France and India, omfg lol we can now really foretell the future that it would probably take them for years to completely release the update world wide :silly: Google is preparing to release the 4.4.3 update and samsht is still smoking weeds to think about the update I wonder what will my friend think about this lol. I actually told her that rooting is the best thing that would happen on her device, encouraging her to flash CM11 on it but she's sick of these things haha, she's scared of bricking her phone lol but I told her that I'm the one that will gonna guide her doing those stuff, but it all ended up saying NO ahaha.

JovieBrett said:
First of all, thanks guys for giving me time answering my stupid question lol, I've ran out of thanks and I promise I'll give you thanks back later!
So yeah why the fvck did samsht announced that they would be releasing the 4.4.2 update so early as last month if they can't even roll out as soon as possible? that's insane it's almost a month now and the update is not even rolling out here (btw I live in Manila, Ph)
I agree with @FloatingFatMan, they should have not told people what the REAL thing of the release schedule was :silly: talking about France and India, omfg lol we can now really foretell the future that it would probably take them for years to completely release the update world wide :silly: Google is preparing to release the 4.4.3 update and samsht is still smoking weeds to think about the update I wonder what will my friend think about this lol.
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Well check the update OTA or via kies since you are in Manila.
Talking about 4.4.3 by Google I doubt it would bring anything major to phones except bug fixes that plagued the Nexus devices.The more bigger announcement would be at the Google I/O when we might hear about Android 4.5 or 5 ,who knows and this might be the very last update we would get from Samsung/Google judging by the 2 year policy of Google to support devices
Mabuhay (I am not Pinoy)

singhpratik87 said:
Well check the update OTA or via kies since you are in Manila.
Mabuhay (I am not Pinoy)
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Already tried that for a few times, still no response :| we've actually did some dumb shts on her phone like clearing the 'google services framework' (which is a workaround forcing OTA update to receive on Nexus phones) and we end up screwing her phone lol, still not working :silly:
Yeah I agree, it's almost a half a month now before Google I/O will start and I don't think that they will possibly release a bug fix update (4.4.3) on a short amount of time before they actually release a major update on IO.

JovieBrett said:
Already tried that for a few times, still no response :| we've actually did some dumb shts on her phone like clearing the 'google services framework' (which is a workaround forcing OTA update to receive on Nexus phones) and we end up screwing her phone lol, still not working :silly:
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Nice of her to still trust you with her note II in the hope it won't be messed up this time around.Oh well I am sure in few days time you'll get notified ota if not then do what you do best.Mess up her phone..LOL

singhpratik87 said:
Nice of her to still trust you with her note II in the hope it won't be messed up this time around.Oh well I am sure in few days time you'll get notified ota if not then do what you do best.Mess up her phone..LOL
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Well, it's her choice and she doesn't care what I am really actually doing on her phone lol, she's trusting me, our frienship would only break if her phone won't boot anymore past the bootlogo hahaha.

My friend told me the OTA came earlier ago in the morning, thanks guys!

JovieBrett said:
Hi guys so I'm helping my friend's Note 2 to manually update it to KK via kies cause OTA is still not available when checking on 'Check for updates' (Yeah it's over a month now and the update is still not there! freaky sam****)
So our problem is the kies dashboard just displays 'Latest firmware' for her device and we cannot see any other option to check updates for KK on kies, that is just stupid :/ Her Note 2 is on JB 4.3, so my question is, is there any possible way on how to get rid of that 'Latest firmware' label on her device via Samsung Kies to be able to get the latest update?
If you're going to say about ODIN or any geeky things to do, she won't allow it lol, she's sick of that, she just wants to upgrade it manually over the kies.
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according to samsung...only india and france available~~~

Did T-mobile release 5.1 OTA yet?

I heard the 5.1 T-mo OTA was supposed to be today. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
Thanks

bigp951 said:
I heard the 5.1 T-mo OTA was supposed to be today. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
Thanks
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No not yet. Everyone is anxiously awaiting word from Mo Versi on twitter that the update has been approved and that OTA will begin shortly. He had previously said he expected approval on 7/17 and release on 7/20 but it hasn't happened yet.
I am not happy that TMO has been holding this up to the point where even AT&T got it out first and they are near the bottom in terms of releasing updates.
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ThePhoneGeek said:
No not yet. Everyone is anxiously awaiting word from Mo Versi on twitter that the update has been approved and that OTA will begin shortly. He had previously said he expected approval on 7/17 and release on 7/20 but it hasn't happened yet.
I am not happy that TMO has been holding this up to the point where even AT&T got it out first and they are near the bottom in terms of releasing updates.
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I actually saw the convo on twitter.. I read elsewhere that since they are behind the 8 ball that they may skip 5.1 and just dive into Android M when its released. Of course this is all rumor and speculation. I asked mo on twitter today if there was any news but he didn't respond.

bigp951 said:
I actually saw the convo on twitter.. I read elsewhere that since they are behind the 8 ball that they may skip 5.1 and just dive into Android M when its released. Of course this is all rumor and speculation. I asked mo on twitter today if there was any news but he didn't respond.
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No they're not skipping 5.1. They are so far behind in firmware they won't skip 5.1 on a flagship device like this. Most likely there was some last min bug with a piece of TMO bloatware that they had to correct. That's almost always the reason...
PG

Hopefully they release it soon. I'm only looking forward to it so that viperone gets WiFi calling and HD calling working on the updated firmware.

"Meanwhile, Sentinel Republic claimed that HTC senior vice president for Product Management Mo Versi confirmed that HTC One M9 users under T-Mobile and Verizon will receive the Android 5.1.1 OTA on July 20."
Read more: http://en.yibada.com/articles/46574...pop-os-update-for-android-m.htm#ixzz3gWfNgGTZ
Not sure how credible it is, but there you go

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Hopefully they release it soon. I'm only looking forward to it so that viperone gets WiFi calling and HD calling working on the updated firmware.
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This is my main reason too.
stifilz said:
"Meanwhile, Sentinel Republic claimed that HTC senior vice president for Product Management Mo Versi confirmed that HTC One M9 users under T-Mobile and Verizon will receive the Android 5.1.1 OTA on July 20."
Read more: http://en.yibada.com/articles/46574...pop-os-update-for-android-m.htm#ixzz3gWfNgGTZ
Not sure how credible it is, but there you go
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They're just restating what Mo said last week via twitter when it was on time.

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Not sure how credible it is, but there you go
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That's the same article I read. It's not really a big deal to me either way. I'd rather wait a little longer and get a stable release than have them rush it out full of bugs.
Since there's been a bit of a slow down with the m9 and I'm getting bored with it. I am trying to get my hands on a nexus so I can flash the Android m preview. Will keep my m9 as my daily driver though.
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So nothing yet? They said the 20th and then the 21st... But no one reports anything. This sucks, I need to upgrade already. I just don't wanna lose Volte and HD calling, etc
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PaoloMix09 said:
So nothing yet? They said the 20th and then the 21st... But no one reports anything. This sucks, I need to upgrade already. I just don't wanna lose Volte and HD calling, etc
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Yeah I am with you. The fact that it has taken this long is ridiculous, we should have had this update weeks ago and it's likely held up with the crap bloatware from TMO we're all going to remove anyway...
Not sure it helps but I've been giving TMO and HTC hell on Twitter.
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Since the action is so slow for the m9 I bought a nexus 5 last night... There's like 50 roms plus Android m for that thing! Too bad the phones not as a good of a quality as the m9.
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I wonder if this is what's holding up the update... http://www.xda-developers.com/t-mobile-brings-messenger-like-features-to-sms/
Just might be worth the wait. Lately tmous has been rolling out with big things. That's why I left verizon

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I wonder if this is what's holding up the update... http://www.xda-developers.com/t-mobile-brings-messenger-like-features-to-sms/
Just might be worth the wait. Lately tmous has been rolling out with big things. That's why I left verizon
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Would love to have those features but I just want this new firmware so I can update my Viper ROM already lol... Dang it!
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bigp951 said:
I wonder if this is what's holding up the update... http://www.xda-developers.com/t-mobile-brings-messenger-like-features-to-sms/
Just might be worth the wait. Lately tmous has been rolling out with big things. That's why I left verizon
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This feature is supposed to be on the Samsung Galaxy grand prime or something like that , so it is doubtful it will come in this update , that device drops next month .

Ha-ha I totally skipped the last paragraph stating that... OK I'm out if excuses now

T-Mobile's Des tweeted- said possibly next week and will give an update on Monday as to status. They weren't done testing yet was the reason for delay. We'll see I guess.

effortless said:
T-Mobile's Des tweeted- said possibly next week and will give an update on Monday as to status. They weren't done testing yet was the reason for delay. We'll see I guess.
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I had heard internally that they were having trouble with a couple a of their bloatware apps causing wakelock issues. Crap we're all going to delete anyway.

ThePhoneGeek said:
I had heard internally that they were having trouble with a couple a of their bloatware apps causing wakelock issues. Crap we're all going to delete anyway.
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Hell all I want is the firmware... They can keep the rest. Hahaha

It's out today.
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blitz911 said:
It's out today.
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whats the verdict?