9/22/10 Where's the OTA? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Check it out! You WILL LOSE ROOT!
I just wanted to make this thread for the rumored OTA, once it's out someone post here. Can't wait for that FPS boost, it'ss be even better than 53 fps!
(BTW if you don't know which OTA I'm referring to, see this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699290 I made this thread because this is only reguarding this OTA, and is a small thread, meanwhile that one is 141 pages, so... yea)

Anyone know if this OTA will include the stagefright fixes (which made Pandora on 3G work again) from 3.28 ? I'd assume it will but just wanna make sure before installing it.

Host, Then Post.

Previous OTA's have been released about 12pm eastern that I have noticed, so if there's one coming, it should be in the next couple of hours

Samzebian said:
I just wanted to make this thread for the rumored OTA, once it's out someone post here. Can't wait for that FPS boost, it'ss be even better than 53 fps!
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I haven't seen anything about a new OTA... especially something lifting the FPS cap... where's the source? I seriously must've missed something huge..

Im wondering the same question Lol, where it is?

juancaperez2000 said:
Im wondering the same question Lol, where it is?
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See this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699290

CHECK THIS OUT
http://support.sprint.com/support/a...e-wh164052-20100527-115429?&INTNAV=SU:DP:HDIA

Samzebian said:
See this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699290
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yep its definitely coming... now if it has any sort of FPS or GPS fixes, that's the 'big secret':
http://support.sprint.com/support/a...e-wh164052-20100527-115429?&INTNAV=SU:DP:HDIA

3.29, passed right by yet unreleased OTA 3.28.. how's this possible leaks of OTA, PRI and full RUU (NV1.71) and nobody caught this one until practically it's release date. Haha they using good tactics..
-CC

Shouldn't this be moved to q&a section
sent from my DAMN EVO!

The update on Sprints site says nothing about an FPS break...

maybe sprint doesnt consider fixing the 30fps cap a new feature, but rather a bug fix so they didnt include it? Hell I really dont know. I would like 60fps, ALL THE TIME. without "hacks" to get it to work. ooo and full HDMI please. LOL

myndwire said:
yep its definitely coming... now if it has any sort of FPS or GPS fixes, that's the 'big secret':
http://support.sprint.com/support/a...e-wh164052-20100527-115429?&INTNAV=SU:DP:HDIA
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Well, the changelog for 3.26.651.6 makes no mention of Froyo, probably the biggest change. So there's still hope.

clockcycle said:
3.29, passed right by yet unreleased OTA 3.28.. how's this possible leaks of OTA, PRI and full RUU (NV1.71) and nobody caught this one until practically it's release date. Haha they using good tactics..
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perhaps htc is finally using the leaks as a way of testing, because they dont have enough in house testers with all the new devices they keep releasing?
they have even started farming out business to OEM partners so they can put out an android tablet and still maintain the mobile phone schedule.
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I started receiving a notification on the 21st that an update was avail for the voicemail app - no other Sprint flavored updates yet. Raleigh, NC area location.

Well I'm off to school. Hopefully by the time I get back its ready to be installed.
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Word on the street is that the update is out.
ROFL, look at the tags on the bottom of this page http://support.sprint.com/support/a...e-wh164052-20100527-115429?&INTNAV=SU:DP:HDIA :
'1 3.26.651.3 bummer cool current software Froyo hurry up hurry up lazy Lie Fraud Not Avai picinpic Sprint lies tap menu ttt update update 1.47.651.1 waiting"

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Has anyone received the update and been able to pull it for dev review?

Engadget's picked this up

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Official Sprint Froyo Release

I know im a newbie so please dont flame me lol.. Does anyone here have an updated status on the official sprint froyo release as of today? Ive heard before iphone 4 release, ive heard june 26th, ive heard late 2010?? Just want to know an update..
I know this is never ending lol.. when froyo is released people will probably be asking when "Pancake" is gonna be released lol..
I doubt anyone here would be able to tell for sure when sprint will release a froyo rom. There are already froyo roms in the dev section. It's more likely we get a finished froyo rom from the xda community before sprint even announces theirs.
just flashed EVOlution V8. it's sexy
qteezyfosheezy said:
I know this is never ending lol.. when froyo is released people will probably be asking when "Pancake" is gonna be released lol..
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The next release will start with a "G." I believe it's gingerbread. They go in alphabetical order.
Cupcake, Donut, Eclair, Froyo, Gingerbread, etc.
That said - I do wonder when Pancake will be released. 2015?
Actually Froyo will be releaded for the Evo on July. The thread was lost some time ago. But apparently its legit.
Nice.. i hope it is in july.., Gingerbread.. lol thats awesome
The names are for deserts, so I doubt there will be a pancake release. I'm guessing pineapple upside down cake.
I haven't heard anything about froyo for the evo yet, unfortunately.
papaya....................
Fixter said:
Actually Froyo will be releaded for the Evo on July. The thread was lost some time ago. But apparently its legit.
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You have a source for that?
gthing said:
You have a source for that?
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Look up this Forum for Froyo. The thread is a couple of pages back and its FULL of sources that confirm this.
Actually, no one REALLY knows for sure when we'll get it. July is just the best guess.
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scooter185 said:
just flashed EVOlution V8. it's sexy
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are there still camera issues with that release?
wirenut110 said:
are there still camera issues with that release?
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No camera available. Its impossible at this point.
I hope we get Froyo soon, camera's are needed for me, what else am I gonna use to record my 720p porn.

Could froyo be released soon?

I say that because I just seen an updated for qik, and the changer log says it adds froyo support....could be soon......
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Froyo was released a few weeks ago.
Sorry but ment for our evo from sprint....this was the qik for evo version.
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Official Froyo should be released in the next few weeks?:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/07/19/htc-droid-incredible-htc-email/
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/07/20/motorola-droid-2-to-be-released-with-android-2-2/
http://www.androidpolice.com/
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Official Froyo should be released in the next few weeks?:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/07/19/htc-droid-incredible-htc-email/
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/07/20/motorola-droid-2-to-be-released-with-android-2-2/
http://www.androidpolice.com/
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None of that has anything to do with the Evo
appzattak said:
Sorry but ment for our evo from sprint....this was the qik for evo version.
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Well HTC reps which no nothing still will tell you 2nd half of this year.
I'd assume they'd want to get it out before the Droid 2 is dropped as its going to have it on it and is released next month evidently.
One would think Sprint would be putting a foot in the arse of HTC to get it out. I've unfortunately herd horror stories of HTC's slow rollouts so who knows.
Man, why does it seem like more than half of the threads in "Evo General" get moved to another forum? Why not just delete the "General" forum? Most everything else fits into one of the other four categories. It would save a lot of mod effort, I would think.
Sorry, off-topic, but I'm smart enough to avoid the irony of starting a new thread.
SMARTPHONEPC said:
Official Froyo should be released in the next few weeks?:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/07/19/htc-droid-incredible-htc-email/
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/07/20/motorola-droid-2-to-be-released-with-android-2-2/
http://www.androidpolice.com/
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TJDuckett said:
None of that has anything to do with the Evo
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If it was a definitive announcement, I wouldn't have thrown in the question mark.
Links suggest if 2.2 is going to HTC's incredible & Droid2 in the next few weeks, the EVO should not be far behind unless they no longer care to remain competitive.
appzattak said:
I say that because I just seen an updated for qik, and the changer log says it adds froyo support....could be soon......
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Nice find, very suspicious that the Evo QIK just added Froyo support
jerryparid said:
Nice find, very suspicious that the Evo QIK just added Froyo support
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exactly...../me thinks they are being hush hush and may drop a surprise...
appzattak said:
exactly...../me thinks they are being hush hush and may drop a surprise...
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Well heres the last email I got from HTC regarding this when I replied back to the first one saying thats BS they have no need to get stuff from google now the code is released to everyone. And also said with the Incredible getting FroYo in a week or two I asked for a better ETA regarding the Evo as opposed to the "2nd half of the year" I was originally told. I also commented on how Sprint stated that the Evo would be getting the Froyo soon.
"First, I want to apologize on Sprint's behalf because they should not have told you things that are inaccurate. They have no reason to say "soon" as to the availability of the update. Our engineers are indeed working on it, but it has to be made specifically for each phone and tested before it can be released. Setting up Sense is a large part of it as well. There is not a better time line I can give you than the second half of the year, as that is all the information we have right now. We do not have a better estimate than that."
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If the POS Incredible gets it before the Evo, I'm gonna be pissed. However, if they fix their shoddy HDMI implementation and lift the frame rate cap, I don't mind waiting... but fat chance on that ACTUALLY happening.
SMARTPHONEPC said:
If it was a definitive announcement, I wouldn't have thrown in the question mark.
Links suggest if 2.2 is going to HTC's incredible & Droid2 in the next few weeks, the EVO should not be far behind unless they no longer care to remain competitive.
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Ohhhhhhh, I gotcha.
appzattak said:
exactly...../me thinks they are being hush hush and may drop a surprise...
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Don't hold your breath bro.
Sent on my Sprint EVO using 4G speed
Some announcement would be nice..
Seems like everyone else has a set date and ours is oh sometime this year..
If this plays out anything like 2.1 did with the hero we'll see some leaked releases a couple( or many) of weeks before the official release hits
appzattak said:
Could froyo be released soon?
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No. Q4 10/Q1 11
crakerjaks said:
No. Q4 10/Q1 11
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Nope it is due BY Christmas on all HTC devices Evo should be around Q3
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Nope it is due BY Christmas on all HTC devices Evo should be around Q3
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nope they will fail per usual dont count on it till sprint 11'
You would think that Sprint would be lighting a fire under HTC's ass to get this out the door quicker. I mean this phone really has put sprint back in the game.

New OTA for mytouch Slide 1.42?

Just saw CR's twitter post asking if anyone recieved the ota 1.42 update..........is this true? A new update for MTS?
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I got it yesterday but failed when I tryed to flash it.
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I've heard about it to. I'd reallllllllllly like to get my hands on it. Any word if its froyo?
siccmade said:
I got it yesterday but failed when I tryed to flash it.
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Do you have the zip file?? Upload it please!!!
on the t-mo forums it seems that someone has talked to customer service and they said that they are releasing an update to fix some problems that people had with the previous update and adding HSPA+ support. but no mention of froyo so idk we will see i guess
Ok just called 611.
The OTA system has been down since yesterday.
No one knows when it will be running again but when it does the update will be sent out on Mondays, Wednesdays & Friday evenings..
The update is just a lot of fixes for what the other update caused..
Genius Button, Freezing, My Fave, Voice commands, Wifi, Phone Call log..
Nothing special really .. but defo not Froyo.
acejoker25000 said:
on the t-mo forums it seems that someone has talked to customer service and they said that they are releasing an update to fix some problems that people had with the previous update and adding HSPA+ support. but no mention of froyo so idk we will see i guess
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This person was me, lol. This information was delivered from Tier 3 Technical Support. I also found out some heft info regarding my Vibrant as well. Customer Service Reps and any technical support below really don't know much as opposed to that level. I was surprised... But nevertheless, allow me to explain.
A lot of MTS owners have been reporting signal fluctuations and that's because of what I had said about this previous update locking the signal to HSPA. Well, that was a test update in that regard because it was all to test the server load. (It's not handling it well, lol...) So this next patch will fix many of the bugs and will allow the MTS to use the HSPA+ servers. I have an ETA for Froyo on my Vibrant but not the Slide, sorry.
wat is the eta for the vibrant im sure all the vibrant users including me wouldn want to know
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wat is the eta for the vibrant im sure all the vibrant users including me wouldn want to know
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Well, I don't know if you've heard but there were rumors of the GPS fix to be baked into Froyo. Sadly, that isn't the case. There will be the GPS patch this month (which is rumored to begin getting pushed around the 17th-20th) and then there will be another sub-patch (which is for the battery meter, address book force closes, multiple contacts and plenty of other bugs) released once the GPS fix is complete.
Then we've got October and that's when T-Mobile is planning on starting the rollout for Froyo. It is to be completed before the middle of November. I suppose this is all factoring minimal to no issues with the OTA's coming out prior.
Sidenote: With this whole Cliq debacle, I was told that from this point forward T-Mobile will try to focus their Android lineup on mostly vanilla Android. (I wouldn't mind more Sense devices though. I personally don't care for Espresso but my wife loves her slide and the UI.) They are really having to bite the bullet since the Behold II and now the Cliq's promised update to 2.1 from Q2 which it's now almost Q4 with no update.
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Nothing special really .. but defo not Froyo.
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Why do they insist on giving on these worthless updates, instead of working on an actual Froyo rom? They waist their time on something that's like 20MB, when that time could be used for something else..Other HTC phones are getting 2.2(inc sense). There are minor diff b/t sense & espresso, excluding faves, genius,themes,etc...
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Why do they insist on giving on these worthless updates, instead of working on an actual Froyo rom? They waist their time on something that's like 20MB, when that time could be used for something else..Other HTC phones are getting 2.2(inc sense). There are minor diff b/t sense & espresso, excluding faves, genius,themes,etc...
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They have different teams that work on the software of the device. For example they'll have a team who test in-market software while others work on testing and developing for future software.
Give these guys a break. They work hard at what they do.
Thanks for the response everyone, I will leave this topic up for future updates to the slide up to and including froyo.
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Yes, there is an OTA on the way... CR has seen it in-person. No, it's definitely NOT Froyo. Nothing overly exciting, but for those people who run stock-like ROMs it will definitely be an upgrade.
My letter (linked here) is to address a specific time-line for Froyo rollout on our device.
siccmade, can you PLEASE get in touch with ChiefzReloaded or myself ASAP? My GTalk is nbetcher (at) gmail [dot] com. Thanks!
Looked but didnt see it. Were should I be looking
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False alarm everyone... still need someone to pull the OTA once they get a notification. Note: if you get a notification on anything other than: Stock or CR_Mod then it's likely a bug. Please download the OTA package, but make sure to NOT apply it!
Thanks everyone.
Is there a manual download update before this one that we are waiting to come out?
Jrbourque said:
Is there a manual download update before this one that we are waiting to come out?
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dude i love ur profile pic! haha that is classic! for all who dont know how to do it get a barcode reader on ur phone and scan it to his pic...
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dude i love ur profile pic! haha that is classic! for all who dont know how to do it get a barcode reader on ur phone and scan it to his pic...
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lolol thanks....i actually forgot about it... i did it when barcode scanner and qrcode maker first came out
Ok guys Im on my wife's unrooted slide. Just got the 1. 35 update. Maybe ill root it after I apply it.
So the 1.42 update isnt going to happen?
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System Update IMM76Q: VZN Galaxy Nexus

I received an OTA software update with build number IMM76Q. Has anyone else received it?
Get us a logcat before installing please.
945kb...
Hmm.
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Must be the gimping of the search bar
NeoMagus said:
Must be the gimping of the search bar
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My exact thoughts!!
Yeah. 949 kb is tinyyyyy. I can't believe Verizon would be this quick about an update Google has been working on for a week and released a day or two ago! But no..... a somewhat major software revision has to take 2 months. I realize the fact that it is only a very, very small update, and it doesn't change any major software/radio stuff... but still. You know what would be cool? If verizon pushed out software updates (i.e 4.0.4, 4.1) clean at first, then follow up with a second update on the radios.
Lol nice "screenshot".
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Lol nice "screenshot".
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Next generation screenshot.
El Madhatter said:
I received an OTA software update with build number IMM76Q. Has anyone else received it?
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Did you manage to get the file name for us yet?
If you've already installed it, the easiest way would be to look through the log files in /cache with a text viewer and look for a file name ending in .zip.
Thanks!
Wierd, even verizons support site doesn't have this update listed. http://support.verizonwireless.com/system_update/galaxynexus.html. Normally they list the update a few days before roll out on that site. Unless they really had to rush to get around the ban. Curious what's in this update, or if its real.
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Wierd, even verizons support site doesn't have this update listed. http://support.verizonwireless.com/system_update/galaxynexus.html. Normally they list the update a few days before roll out on that site. Unless they really had to rush to get around the ban. Curious what's in this update, or if its real.
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As was mentioned, it is probably the disabling of the "local search" feature of the search bar.
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Lol nice "screenshot".
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Its the screen shot of all screen shots... Aero Shot ... comes in Jellybean lol
-Google
If anyone else gets the OTA, please post the filename here so I can update randomphantasmagoria.com. Thanks!
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As was mentioned, it is probably the disabling of the "local search" feature of the search bar.
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Yeah, i know thats what it probably is. Verizon just always puts out a pdf on the support sites of their phones no matter how minuscule the update is. Like one that turned off the initial 4g free tethering last year said something like "enables 4g tethering plans" or something like that. Oh you tricky VZ...
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Yeah, i know thats what it probably is. Verizon just always puts out a pdf on the support sites of their phones no matter how minuscule the update is. Like one that turned off the initial 4g free tethering last year said something like "enables 4g tethering plans" or something like that. Oh you tricky VZ...
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Definitely very weird that VZW wouldn't have updated the support PDFs. They update those things religiously when there's an OTA.
I hope this IMM76Q update isn't another IMM30B where someone accidentally pushes it to a few devices, shuts it off, and it fades into the ether, leaving anyone who applied the update stranded.
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Yeah. 949 kb is tinyyyyy. I can't believe Verizon would be this quick about an update Google has been working on for a week and released a day or two ago! But no..... a somewhat major software revision has to take 2 months. I realize the fact that it is only a very, very small update, and it doesn't change any major software/radio stuff... but still. You know what would be cool? If verizon pushed out software updates (i.e 4.0.4, 4.1) clean at first, then follow up with a second update on the radios.
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Technically, the updates come from Google. Since this update has nothing to do with aspects that would be specific to carrier use they probably didn't involve Verizon in this one.
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Technically, the updates come from Google. Since this update has nothing to do with aspects that would be specific to carrier use they probably didn't involve Verizon in this one.
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As far as I'm aware, that's not an option. I believe VZW has to test and approve every single OTA that goes out to a phone on their network, regardless of how small or whether there is anything carrier-specific in it.
Apple is the lone exception to this rule. Verizon lets them do whatever the hell they want with the iPhone and iPad.
I spoke to a verizon tech rep this week---he said there was an update pending and suggested it was more about a radio fix. However, I'd take that with a grain of salt
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As far as I'm aware, that's not an option. I believe VZW has to test and approve every single OTA that goes out to a phone on their network, regardless of how small or whether there is anything carrier-specific in it.
Apple is the lone exception to this rule. Verizon lets them do whatever the hell they want with the iPhone and iPad.
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That's very unfortunate then.
It's probably just an update regarding the whole patent situation

T-Mobile USA LP OTA

Has ANYONE gotten it yet? I feel like I've been reading "You should get the OTA any day now" stories online for a couple months now, and still NOTHING! I am curious if ANYONE has actually gotten it that's on T-Mobile in the US.
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Has ANYONE gotten it yet? I feel like I've been reading "You should get the OTA any day now" stories online for a couple months now, and still NOTHING! I am curious if ANYONE has actually gotten it that's on T-Mobile in the US.
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You can rest assured that if it were available there would be a version of it posted here on xda. When it is it will be on here within moments of the devs getting their hands on it or anyone for that matter.
Have you read the correct ones vause what ive seen says that us carriers wont start pushing anything till almost march
The Galaxy S5 got the lollipop 5.0 update in the USA. Thanks LG, while you're busy releasing the update for users in Nigeria, the enthusiasts in the USA are still stuck on KitKat... mine boggling......
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I'd not LG's fault. In the US the carriers test the software, have LG put their own software on the phone and then test done more. They are the cause if the delay, and with T-mobile they at have Wi-Fi calling so probably even more delay to test that.
Good to know, but I was wondering because I was going back to stock, but course leaving it rooted, but then there was an update. Was that the update that we're all waiting for? or is it just a minor update I think I saw something like 247MB don't know if thats correct but I was going to unroot my phone just to get that update, but thats not Lollipop right?
Alrighty then so... Thanks T-mobile....
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I think that tweet from LG USA was designed to put pressure on the carriers to hasten the release. Unfortunately for LG this may backfire on them. Most people think phone manufactueres are responsible for timely release of updates. US carriers need to add their bloatware and wi-fi calling in T-mobiles case to the new update. LG's part is done. Call your local branches and bug the crap out of them.
What is so great about lollipop? Xposed doesnt work with it among other things. I would not update even if it was available right now.
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The Galaxy S5 got the lollipop 5.0 update in the USA. Thanks LG, while you're busy releasing the update for users in Nigeria, the enthusiasts in the USA are still stuck on KitKat... mine boggling......
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Personally, I find it mind boggling that you would blame LG and not T-Mobile. Talk about blaming the wrong party.
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bigcletus said:
What is so great about lollipop? Xposed doesnt work with it among other things. I would not update even if it was available right now.
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I'm with you. I have no interest.
Okay then I blame everyone. Better?
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Just saw news , sprint is getting on Feb 16. We might get before that
So I flashed my phone back to the M version for our phone and did the OTA to R. It said the R update is only available until Feb. 10 so it'll probably be shortly after that.
Id think thay would be a fair assesment. So before mar 1 we could plan to see a roll out or at least definite word
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Just saw news , sprint is getting on Feb 16. We might get before that
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That'd be nice
stratus1011 said:
So I flashed my phone back to the M version for our phone and did the OTA to R. It said the R update is only available until Feb. 10 so it'll probably be shortly after that.
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I would think this means the update is hitting phones on the 10th or 11th. Normally they keep the old update rolling until they hot swap with the new one. I would imagine only hours of downtime for updates if they don't hot swap. Then again some people still haven't received the ota notification yet... Who knows?
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So I flashed my phone back to the M version for our phone and did the OTA to R. It said the R update is only available until Feb. 10 so it'll probably be shortly after that.
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I would think this means the update is hitting phones on the 10th or 11th. Normally they keep the old update rolling until they hot swap with the new one. I would imagine only hours of downtime for updates if they don't hot swap. Then again some people still haven't received the ota notification yet... Who knows?
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Sorry to kill the hype, but afaik that date doesn't mean anything.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...-otas-doesnt-mean-what-you-may-wish-it-meant/
And OTA rolls out in stages, that's why not everyone is getting the OTA notification.
HTC M8 is getting it on the 8th, so in this case the date mentioned sounds like it could be true
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HTC M8 is getting it on the 8th, so in this case the date mentioned sounds like it could be true
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And yet there is no ETA for lollipop on the S5 (as for T-mobile variant). Judging the ETA for update for the LG G3 from the update intended for another device from another manufacturer is very immature.
Don't get me wrong, I would want 5.0 on my G3 asap, but I just want to point our that that date is irrelevant, just as the post from AP I linked suggested.
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And yet there is no ETA for lollipop on the S5 (as for T-mobile variant). Judging the ETA for update for the LG G3 from the update intended for another device from another manufacturer is very immature.
Don't get me wrong, I would want 5.0 on my G3 asap, but I just want to point our that that date is irrelevant, just as the post from AP I linked suggested.
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