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[Q] My Desire Z isn't responding to the charger! HELP?

Hello everyone, yesterday, my two months old HTC Desire Z (NL, no simlock, CWM 3.0.0.5, CM7RC2) ran out of battery. When I put my phone back in the charger later at night, the red LED began flashing, 2 flashes (interval about 1sec.) and than no flashing for 2 or 3 sec. and starting over again. it sometimes boots into recovery, but then turns itself of after a couple of seconds. I left it in the charger a full night with no effects, let it "rest" for about 8 hours and put it back, still no success.. Anybody an idea? thanks in advance ;-)!

Did you try a battery pull? Leave it out for about ten minutes.

I was just going to put it back in after half an hour.. will edit if something happens, don't expect it as nothing happened after all the things I already tried
EDIT: goes flashing again, let me try to turn it on.
nope, nothing : (

This may seem a bit obvious, but did you try charging it through your computer? The AC adapter could just be broken.

bazhip said:
This may seem a bit obvious, but did you try charging it through your computer? The AC adapter could just be broken.
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That's not it, in the computer it doesn't even do the flashy thing. I think it's the battery, i'm going to buy a new one soon, €30 -.-" but since my warranty's gone it's worth the shot. keep coming with ideas please though! : )

Li ion batteries will stop taking a charge if they are over-discharged. Li ion batteries have a safety circuit that is SUPPOSED to prevent over discharge, but they don't always work. I've seen this happen to several folks over on the Touch Pro 2 forums. Charging overnight on the wall charger will sometimes work (USB is not enough). Otherwise you need a special charger/battery tester with a boost function to bring the battery back from the dead. Short of that, you just need to get a new battery.
Its possible you may have some issue besides over-discharge, such as a bad battery. But just in case, in the future it would be advisable to avoid discharging the battery below 20%, or at least 10%, whenever possible. Some here have claimed that newer phones, or perhaps the Android OS itself is better at preventing over-discharge of the battery. But this is the second post I've seen on the Vision forum with this same problem. So my inclination is still to be as cautious as possible with draining the battery too low.

I had this same issue once before, let my battery run out and then it wouldn't charge or turn on, so like stated above, I had a travel wall charger from chichitech and put the battery in that over night and it brought it back.
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Just be glad its not the phone.

melodicjunkie said:
Just be glad its not the phone.
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I am! haha, i'm going to try the phone with a friend's battery this week, see if it'll work then, if so i'll report & buy a new battery asap.
what do you guys suggest? are there any bigger sized batteries available that fit under the stock door?

reiger1000 said:
I am! haha, i'm going to try the phone with a friend's battery this week, see if it'll work then, if so i'll report & buy a new battery asap.
what do you guys suggest? are there any bigger sized batteries available that fit under the stock door?
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Honestly: I'm from the usa, I don't even know what the desire is. I'm assuming its a non us version of the g2.
In the tmobile store there are bigger batteries u can buy, I got the stock battery and never upgraded but I did see them there..
Go into your local store and I'm sure u could test it right there with there batterys.. if u don't wanna wait for ur friend that is..

melodicjunkie said:
Honestly: I'm from the usa, I don't even know what the desire is. I'm assuming its a non us version of the g2.
In the tmobile store there are bigger batteries u can buy, I got the stock battery and never upgraded but I did see them there..
Go into your local store and I'm sure u could test it right there with there batterys.. if u don't wanna wait for ur friend that is..
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Desire Z is indeed the european (& canadean) version of the tmo G2, with sense UI and stuff. but thanks for the advice! shops are closed atm, so i'll have to wait for tomorrow anyway.
anybody else seen some bigger sized batteries?

reiger1000 said:
I am! haha, i'm going to try the phone with a friend's battery this week, see if it'll work then, if so i'll report & buy a new battery asap.
what do you guys suggest? are there any bigger sized batteries available that fit under the stock door?
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I've been using the red chichitech 1800mah EVO batteries since October and love them, you just have to peel the red wrapper off and they will fit under the stock door. Plus for the price you get two batteries and a wall travel charger for what one stock battery will cost you, look for Chichitech on Amazon, I got them three days after I placed my order.
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reiger1000 said:
Desire Z is indeed the european (& canadean) version of the tmo G2, with sense UI and stuff.
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There is an Asian Desire Z too. In fact, the Desire Z is so much more widely distributed, I'd dare say the more definitive version is the Desire Z, and the G2 just happens to be T-Mob's variant. But that's just me. They are all Visions in the end, aren't they?

joemm said:
I've been using the red chichitech 1800mah EVO batteries since October and love them, you just have to peel the red wrapper off and they will fit under the stock door. Plus for the price you get two batteries and a wall travel charger for what one stock battery will cost you, look for Chichitech on Amazon, I got them three days after I placed my order.
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first hit on google was DON'T BUY THE CHICHITECH BATTERIES, and it says they're for the EVO 4G? how could that work on a vision..

Buying a HTC Desire HD tomorrow

Hey dudes
Im buying a second hand Desire HD tomorrow just wondering if theres anything i should watch out for and also do you think ill like it better than my Desire.
Only thing im slightly concerned about is the battery life but surely it wouldn't be that much worse? Just seems people whine about it alot... No doubt from people that dont own one lol

No, people whine about battery life because it isn't too amazing, not because they don't have the phone. As long as you're expecting to not get more than ~10 hours of heavy use, you should be fine.
Although some of the people I know, talk to seem to not get through the day.
Depends in usage. If light, you're fine. If moderate, if you may be okay. If heavy, probably not going to last the day.
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CdTDroiD said:
Hey dudes
Im buying a second hand Desire HD tomorrow just wondering if theres anything i should watch out for and also do you think ill like it better than my Desire.
Only thing im slightly concerned about is the battery life but surely it wouldn't be that much worse? Just seems people whine about it alot... No doubt from people that dont own one lol
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I'd check the battery and sim covers that they're not cracked (obvious) and that they stay in place properly. (My battery cover was in fact so loose that it came off by itself, but I got a new one). Another thing that I would check is the camera lens bezel (the ring around the lens) if it's loose, mine got loose after one month of use and I had to send the phone in for a warranty repair. The warranty stickers on some screws under the covers would also be nice to have in place if you run into some problems with the phone in the future.

Thanks guys. With my desire I'm on 59% at the no after 16 hours with 56 minutes screen time. Running AOSP.
Id be happy if I could have a full day from wake up to bed with moderate use. I'd be charging everynight anyway
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I'm on the latest Revolution Rom and I'm a heavy user (including the battery draining Whatsapp). I can make it from 6 in the morning till around 6 PM without charging, so that's pretty good I guess. Be sure to check the sim cover indeed, that it hasn't been bent or something, cause that's the only hardware issue I have on this phone. Have fun with it bro! ;-)

I get about 40 hours with light/moderate use(check my signature for my config)... Check if the phone has any physical damage(sim/battery covers, warranty stickers, if its just scratched a bit on the edges, it doesn't matter much, but ask for a lower price ) and check all the hardware and sensors(camera, bluetooth, wi-fi, gps, rotation, etc...)

Very helpfull guys thanks. Can't wait to get it I've been thinking of making a cool rom for it.
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Im thinking of buying either LG 2X or DHD ..! Due to the reboot problems of 2X im thinking of buying DHD as a safe option .!!

I tested the x2. Didn't like it at all... Much prefer HTC
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anshmiester78900 said:
Im thinking of buying either LG 2X or DHD ..! Due to the reboot problems of 2X im thinking of buying DHD as a safe option .!!
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Not just the safe option, also the best option!

Don't worry over the battery life too much as the same as you I also had the original Desire and I've recently replaced it with the Desire HD. Both phones were running their stock ROMs and I must say that I don't notice any difference between the charging cycles. I'm a moderate user and I charge my DHD every two days, the same as I was charging my Desire before.
Yes, the DHD is a beast but trust me the second gen Snapdragon that's in it is a lot more power efficient and the DHD runs on Gingerbread which manages the background apps a lot better than Froyo, ergo saving power.
What's even more interesting my old regular Desire was with AMOLED screen which has proved to be much more power efficient because contrary to LCD screens it achieves black color by turning off pixels instead of reproducing black color and yet the DHD with SLCD collosal display gets me two days of use the same as the Desire did.

I just had a look at a HTC HD2 today im thinking of getting that now instead lol, the guy wasnt home today with the DHD. What you think? would be awesome to be able to run all sorts.

I'd stick and wait for the DHD in your place...the hardware is newer and superior than HD2

Go for it!! You'll be amazed at the raw power it has..

Just bought the DHD looks mean cant wait to root it (no pun intended) lol...

If you are willing to root, then many roms have better battery life.. With the stock ROM that Telus shipped with the phone (2.2.2), battery life was absolutely horrible. With screen brightness at 33% and juice defender, I sometimes would only get 15-16 hours TOPS. I am now running Virtuous Unity and I am actually able to squeeze two days out of a charge..

Battery life :-( for one X

Am i the only one experiencing bad battery life, with a moderate usage??
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no i too get terrible battery life. With average internet use and wifi on, I only manage about 5 hours. Though I've only had the phone for 3 days, so I'm not judging too much as of yet.
However, with wifi off, the standby time is incredible. I spent about 75-80min driving, checked my phone, and it was still at 100%

even i was facing a similar problem. after a full recharge the battery was draining to 50% on standby mode in just 3 hours.... there was a signal reception problem n overheating problem as well ( cudnt touch the phone while charging without getting my hands burnt!!)
but i am getting the phone replaced by wednesday.already got the D.O.A. certificate from the service center. now just hoping the new phone will b alright!!

Agreed, with screen off, the battery kind of never drains....but with screen ON...it goes down like stock market
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hi guys...im from s5830 section and HTC One X is one of my list. sorry for off topic but can you guys tell me some pro and cons of this device since u all have it?

zaqwankira said:
hi guys...im from s5830 section and HTC One X is one of my list. sorry for off topic but can you guys tell me some pro and cons of this device since u all have it?
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This is all in my opinion
Pros:
Looks good and feel great in the hand
Good build quality and very light
Screen is amazing
Camera is good
Very fast - minimal lag
Cons:
Battery life has been pretty poor, but I hear it gets better over time
Loud speaker could be better
That's about it really. Amazing phone
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kylec said:
This is all in my opinion
Pros:
Looks good and feel great in the hand
Good build quality and very light
Screen is amazing
Camera is good
Very fast - minimal lag
Cons:
Battery life has been pretty poor, but I hear it gets better over time
Loud speaker could be better
That's about it really. Amazing phone
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used all my thanks today. but thanks mate. so,no more death grip..? i think for battery, devs will have their own innovative n creative way to counter it. im gonna take it next week after my vacation. wait till it gets cynogenmod..

zaqwankira said:
used all my thanks today. but thanks mate. so,no more death grip..? i think for battery, devs will have their own innovative n creative way to counter it. im gonna take it next week after my vacation. wait till it gets cynogenmod..
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With regards to death grip, I've been trying and can only make.the WiFi drop one bar if I cover the top where camera is. And even then I didn't always get a drop lol
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Well it was to be expected with these specifications that the battery life would be bad, but It will be better in the future I hope.

kylec said:
With regards to death grip, I've been trying and can only make.the WiFi drop one bar if I cover the top where camera is. And even then I didn't always get a drop lol
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i think its common to some devices. im ok with that. pity it doesnt come with beats headset anymore but im gonna taste the quad-core n tegra3....hell with that

upcoming htc quad core phone with removable battery?

Hi all. I would like to buy the htc one x. But i do not like the idea of unremovable battery because it is very inconvenient. I have to get another external charger n plug it into the phone and that external charger is limiting the comfort of moving about. It would be great if htc release a quad core phone with removable battery so when the battery is weak, i can just insert another fully charge battery into it. Any idea is htc releasing such a phone?

Maybe something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SegGNkEG7nk
http://www.dhgate.com/2000mah-recha...ttery/p-ff80808135c891650135cc489cf56f27.html

They just released the One series, As for now the One X is the only quad core phone on the market afaik.
Wait to see the Galaxy SIII (or SIIs ?) it will possible be a quad core...
Btw, the battery life is pretty decent after some charges and rom tweaks, I also thought it would be a problem, but it is fine now (I only am afraid from bricking it...)

wait 6 months and they will probably launch another new 'flagship' phone (seems to be their modus operandi) called the One X-S with removable battery and sdcard... and
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or Second Edition X (SEX) hehe

ChriKn said:
They just released the One series, As for now the One X is the only quad core phone on the market afaik.
Wait to see the Galaxy SIII (or SIIs ?) it will possible be a quad core...
Btw, the battery life is pretty decent after some charges and rom tweaks, I also thought it would be a problem, but it is fine now (I only am afraid from bricking it...)
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Hi there. Hmm... You mentioned about afraid to brick it. Would you elaborate more on how does the unremovable battery come into play with bricking the phone?
Well, I thought of the galaxy s III too. But I would like to use HTC sense. Currently I am using hd2 nand android. The HTC sense interface is fantastic.

sorry for double posting

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Maybe something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SegGNkEG7nk
http://www.dhgate.com/2000mah-recha...ttery/p-ff80808135c891650135cc489cf56f27.html
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Are there any of this for one x?

anyone knows if there are battery/juice jacket for one x?

I don't think they made such cases for other than an iPhone but it's still to early to judge. In the meanwhile you can buy something like an 11000mAh External Battery, it should keep you good for some 6 full recharges It's welcome to hang around and very handy to have if you're out and/or camping and such

thanks for all the replies. 1 last question. how is the volume level of the speaker when you get a call? is the ringing volume loud enough?

yes it's good enough and of course uses the Sense to know if it's in your pocket or purse to ring louder... when you pick the phone up in your hand it also knows and lowers the volume almost to zero

Need help getting convinced

It's time for me to get a new device and having been very happy with a HTC Magic, HTC Hero and now happily using a HTC Desire Z and HTC Flyer, I find myself gravitating towards the One X. I love the looks and since Nvidia keeps buying out the shiniest games I believe Tegra 3 is the CPU to get.
I do have some concerns:
- No removable battery
Charging every night is no problem for me, but I'm a compulsive romflasher and pulling the battery on a loop/crash has saved my devices multiple times.
- No external SD
I don't think this will be a big problem, but I like being able to pull the card from my phone and plug in my PC.
- Humongous screen
As far as I'm concerned, the 3.7 inch on my Desire Z is perfect: I can hold it and reach all the way across the screen with the same hand. I like being able to use my phone with only one hand available. Also, the Desire Z fits in my pockets easily. I'm not sure the One X will fit as easily.
- Development community
Like I said, I love tinkering with my device. The Desire Z is still supported by a huge amount of (great) developers. Will the One X stay supported as well?
- Hardware keyboard
I love my physical keyboard, but I find myself using it less and less.
Any One X users here that can alleviate my worries?

Quistnix said:
It's time for me to get a new device and having been very happy with a HTC Magic, HTC Hero and now happily using a HTC Desire Z and HTC Flyer, I find myself gravitating towards the One X. I love the looks and since Nvidia keeps buying out the shiniest games I believe Tegra 3 is the CPU to get.
I do have some concerns:
- No removable battery
Charging every night is no problem for me, but I'm a compulsive romflasher and pulling the battery on a loop/crash has saved my devices multiple times.
- No external SD
I don't think this will be a big problem, but I like being able to pull the card from my phone and plug in my PC.
- Humongous screen
As far as I'm concerned, the 3.7 inch on my Desire Z is perfect: I can hold it and reach all the way across the screen with the same hand. I like being able to use my phone with only one hand available. Also, the Desire Z fits in my pockets easily. I'm not sure the One X will fit as easily.
- Development community
Like I said, I love tinkering with my device. The Desire Z is still supported by a huge amount of (great) developers. Will the One X stay supported as well?
- Hardware keyboard
I love my physical keyboard, but I find myself using it less and less.
Any One X users here that can alleviate my worries?
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Ok. I'll Do my best.
1. You can hold the Power Button 10 seconds and a battery pull is simulated. This works perfect. No need for a replacable battery for that.
2. Nothing to say. No way to use storage without phone Booted. You can adb push in recovery. Thats it. Love it or leave it.
3. In fact I had the same concerns. You'll need 10 minutes to get used to it. And all pants I own are hox compatible ;-) (i do wear thinght pants to...) But in fact it's again up to your likeing. Test it and if you don't like it, return it...
4. The community us growing. But to now sense 4 in ics is top of the line. So only space for mods and small improvements. At least there are some roms to test. We got official miui an cm9 is around the corner. I think the devs here are awesome and came up with great improvements. So expect big things to come ;-)
5. The soft keyboard on 4.7 inch is big enough to replace a hardware keyboard for me. And again, it's a question of loveing it or not. The keyboard is much bigger than the desire z's. I think it's more than an replacement. It's far better than a hardware keyboard.
I hope I was able to help you a bit with your concerns.
I would say there aren't any better phones to get by now. And the build quality is great. Also HTC has delivered some fast ota's.
In the end its up to you. Just my two cents...
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- No removable battery
You can hold down the power button for 10 seconds to simulate a battery pull. The battery is good and it'll last a whole day on medium usage. If you use it heavily (wth the screen on) for something like 4/5 hours straight with really heavy usage then you'll find you'll need a charger with you at least 2 times a day.
- No external SD
32GB onboard, Dropbox is 25GB storage which you can use to stream videos if you have an unlimited/high data plan. You can plug in the phone straight away which might be easier than taking a card out.
- Humongous screen
It'll fit in every pocket, i had the same concern as you but it really does fit in every one. The screen is ever so slightly too big to use with one hand, unless you have large hands. But you get used to it and it's really only the extreme corners of the screen you can't touch.
- Development community
It's HTC one and only flagship phone this year. Already loads of roms including MiUi and CM9 so it'll stay supported. Not S-OFF at the moment but give it some time.
- Hardware keyboard
Keyboard is large and easy to use. + android market has plenty of keyboards available. HTC keyboard also support swype input. Personally i use smart keyboard pro because it's clean.
Overall it's a great phone, but like i said, battery life is the only issue if you are a really really heavy user. (mine can go from 100% to dead in around 4 hours straight on screen time) But the new phones have excellent build quality and the design is nice and easy to hold. Software updates on the way to fix minor bugs.
The S3 is a good alternative, but we are yet to see how good it actually is compared to the One X. So if you need a phone now, go with the One X if you're conviced. If you have time see what people say during launch week of the S3.

thanks for the replies. The battery pull stuff was my biggest concern, glad that won't be a real issue. I've been looking at the galaxy s III, but while I like most of it I really miss the Tegra on that one. And, based on the photos, I think it is really ugly.

Quistnix said:
thanks for the replies. The battery pull stuff was my biggest concern, glad that won't be a real issue. I've been looking at the galaxy s III, but while I like most of it I really miss the Tegra on that one. And, based on the photos, I think it is really ugly.
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I just sold my one x to get s3. Multitasking was the deal breaker issue for me.
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