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I am so sick of MTP instead of Mass Storage Mode. I run Linux Mint and it's simply painful to try to get MTP working properly like Mass Storage Mode did in GB. Please, ROM devs, answer my prayers.
when you can add a sd card to the phone, you will have your mass storage.
I realize people don't like change, and want to stick with UMS, but you would have to pretty much crush the awesome single partition storage of the GN to get UMS...
Just dont understand why most people are aways want SOME MORE STOREGE, how many stuff you gonna put in your device? A thousand songs or pics?
GoZhU said:
Just dont understand why most people are aways want SOME MORE STOREGE, how many stuff you gonna put in your device? A thousand songs or pics?
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With UMS enabled, they'd theoretically have lower storage than sticking with MTP. There would have to be at least 2 partitions that would mean files couldn't span across them.
I use wifi file explorer pro. Real easy and just as effective as having mass storage. Was bummed as far as me not being able to connect and drag/drop but when i found this app its just as good.
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I can't for the life of me understand this complaint. I have no issues using MTP either in Linux or Win7. Do partition the space up would only bring about all the issues with inadequate space the Nexus One encountered.
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I don't know if it's a MTP thing, but I'm having a hell of a time copying .mkv files to the phone. I can FTP to my Thinkpad Slate at 3MB/s via wifi, the GNex capps out at 400KB/s. I've tried to connect the phone via USB to my desktop and just drag and drop and the progress bar doesn't even move. This is driving me insane.
I'm using the latest GummyNex 0.6.6.
If I recall correctly, when I was using Android Revolution 2.1.2, it was copying at 2MB/s via wifi FTP. I guess I need to look into this.
mallinj said:
I am so sick of MTP instead of Mass Storage Mode. I run Linux Mint and it's simply painful to try to get MTP working properly like Mass Storage Mode did in GB. Please, ROM devs, answer my prayers.
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Tried adbfs?
Looks like it solves your needs without introducing the troubles of mass storage mode.
I am using SAMBA...
airdroid also works well (ubuntu 10.04 and 11.10 on different machines, also better than mtp on vista for me)
it's been 8 hours and my music is still copying to my phone. MTP is completely unacceptable. it's already told me i had to skip like 30 songs before i hit "skip this message" 2 hours ago. i'm copying ~25 GB of music over and half of that is .ogg which is not natively recognized by MTP. I could have copied the 25GB onto my thunderbolt 10 times over already. I dont care what the reasoning, requirement, or intent was to remove mass storage, but it was not work it. watching my files copy at like 400 k/s to a phone plugged in with a USB 2.0 cable makes me want to return the phone.
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it's been 8 hours and my music is still copying to my phone. MTP is completely unacceptable. it's already told me i had to skip like 30 songs before i hit "skip this message" 2 hours ago. i'm copying ~25 GB of music over and half of that is .ogg which is not natively recognized by MTP. I could have copied the 25GB onto my thunderbolt 10 times over already. I dont care what the reasoning, requirement, or intent was to remove mass storage, but it was not work it. watching my files copy at like 400 k/s to a phone plugged in with a USB 2.0 cable makes me want to return the phone.
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Really? I use windows media player to sync my music and it flies. Way faster than my nexus one did. It takes about 1-3 seconds per track.
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Drag and drop the files onto the folder icon. Don't open the folder itself and then copy into it.
My problem with MTP is compatibility. Hardly anything recognizes MTP and knows what to do with it besides my PC. Things I used to connect to via USB to transfer files or backup while on the go just don't work with the nexus. So instead of having an all around portable storage device in my phone I now have to carry other devices to perform those tasks, might not sound like a big deal but its just nicer being able to have that ability in one device. MTP may be great for some but not for everyone.
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MTP may be great for some but not for everyone.
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Agreed - my primary OS is linux, I can make mtp work kinda but it's poor and slow.
However enabling UMS would require repartitioning the GN and afaik no one's done it or said they plan on doing it.
Most people find wireless transfer much more satisfactory for this phone - I've only used airdroid but others have set up their own wireless ftp server. There are probably other apps that do it...
josteink said:
Tried adbfs?
Looks like it solves your needs without introducing the troubles of mass storage mode.
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is it an app on the phone or computer (windows/linux)?
thanks
So i hadn't noticed until just now. But for whatever reason. After flashing to ICS when i hook my phone up to my pc via supplied Sony cable, My Ion notifies me that "internal and Sd card mounted" well.. thats fine and dandy however, I'm not seeing EITHER on my PC. I've restarted the phone multiple times, as well as the PC. What i'm finding to be even more odd is that Normally when I would click on the notification it would take me to some settings page for mounting etc etc... that doesn't happen.. actually nothing happens when i select the notification..EVEN stranger than that... imo... is that when I turn off USB debugging I now get a "portable devices" section under My computer where i'd normally see the removable drives pop up. Under this section I now see Xperia Ion with a lil thumbnail of the phone and "portable media player" underneath it... WTF [email protected]! Now when i click that i'm presented with my internal storage and SD card... this was so confusing that I thought i'd at least share my experience and frustrations for others.. Clearly everything is working.. just hadn't noticed this change until just now... WEIRD!
le sigh.....I LIED!
so while it does show Internal Storage and SD Card under Portable media Player... however... i'm unable to see ext_card <which is where all my video files from the camera are under DICM... i'm so confused...
when I re-enable USB debugging... the Xperia ION Portable Meida Player icon disappears... even though my phone still says "internal and SD connected to pc"
anyone else noticing this? or perhaps found a workaorund just curious if i'm the only having this issue? mayb due to flashing ICS over stock ATT without wipes?
this was not like this in GB. that i recall
I saw "le" and stopped reading
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I saw "le" and stopped reading
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Not sure why it's happening but on gb I sometimes have the same problem, if I'm lazy I just let it sit there for awhile and eventually my ext card will pop up or I just restart my computer ( unplug first)
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but ur saying a pc restart fixes the error for you and your able to see ext_card after restart? b/c i'm not...
another interesting side note to this dilemma is that I can clearly see the folder I want to access via my PC has not been mounted by simply opening any file manager on my ION while it is connected > ext_card what i mean is .. this folder is clearly NOT being mounted when it should be.. correct?
this is quite annoying to have to turn off my ion open the back cover and take out the micro sd and put it in an adapter and put it in my PC rather than just hooking up the cable... really wanna get to the bottom of this as i'm constantly taking videos <large ones at that> and moving them to my PC... this is a must have function for me...
I had this problem after rooting. All you have to do is unmount using your phone - take it out and put it back in. All problems went away.
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I don't think that's the case in my situation. I've removed and reinserted the card multiple times and the situation is the same for me.
edit: just tried as u suggested. plugged phone in. = no ext_card. left phone plugged in. unmounted card on phone. removed from phone. put back in phone. re-mounted. STILL no ext_card on PC.
interesting this is happening across multiple OS's
some with root some without...
i know this wasn't like this when i had GB but now that i think about it. i only used it once mayb twice before flashing to ICS....
i'm at a loss for what could be causing the issue
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Sorry mate, wouldn't know the solution to that. The only thing I did different was unmount while unplugged. However I doubted that would fix.
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Both cards show up up on Windows(yuck) but they don't on Linux. ADB will mount them but they will not show in home folder or desktop. IDK.
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Oh yeah, rooted ICS here.
Bump. Still having this issue. Anyone else?
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Bump. Still having this issue. Anyone else?
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Ok... If USB Debugging is turned on, Windows 7 glitches and will NOT properly read both internal and external cards at the same time... At least for me. To get the internal storage to show up, I just simply turned off USB debugging.
Goto Settings > Xperia > USB connection mode
If "MTP" (Media Transfer Mode) is selected, you "should" see both the internal and external SD cards upon plugging to your PC. This is under the assumption that USB Debugging is turned off. Like I said before, if it's on, I have experienced issues with Windows 7.
If "MSC" (Mass Storage Mode) is selected, regardless of if USB Debugging is selected, your PC should only allow your external SD card to attach to PC. (You can still use ADB commands to access internal storage)
Also, I personally went and uninstalled PC companion, and now block it from install completely. Check the settings mentioned, and see if you possibly missed something. If they all match perfect to what I said, maybe a reflash?
Just to chime in, this is not just a problem with ICS, but a problem in 2.3 as well.
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Ok... If USB Debugging is turned on, Windows 7 glitches and will NOT properly read both internal and external cards at the same time... At least for me. To get the internal storage to show up, I just simply turned off USB debugging.
Goto Settings > Xperia > USB connection mode
If "MTP" (Media Transfer Mode) is selected, you "should" see both the internal and external SD cards upon plugging to your PC. This is under the assumption that USB Debugging is turned off. Like I said before, if it's on, I have experienced issues with Windows 7.
If "MSC" (Mass Storage Mode) is selected, regardless of if USB Debugging is selected, your PC should only allow your external SD card to attach to PC. (You can still use ADB commands to access internal storage)
Also, I personally went and uninstalled PC companion, and now block it from install completely. Check the settings mentioned, and see if you possibly missed something. If they all match perfect to what I said, maybe a reflash?
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yes as i mentioned in my first post. with usb debugging off. internal and SD card show up under xperia ion in my computer. HOWEVER, when i click on SD card... there is no folder EXT_CARD... which is where my videos are located... so what u are experiencing sounds exactly like what i'm experiencing as well
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yes as i mentioned in my first post. with usb debugging off. internal and SD card show up under xperia ion in my computer. HOWEVER, when i click on SD card... there is no folder EXT_CARD... which is where my videos are located... so what u are experiencing sounds exactly like what i'm experiencing as well
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Any update to this? I think the MS MTP protocol is meant to work only with Media player, or something like that.
For me, it doesn't matter whether I have UDB on or not, the only thing that changes the access is changing from MTP to MSC, and then the internal memory isn't accessible. This whole thing is pretty ridiculous.
What I've found to work, so far in Windows, is Android Commander. See's both internal and external memory and allows full access, so far.
Get a file manager app copy the video folder to the root of your SD card. Ext_card is just how the phone differentiates between internal and external and if I'm not mistaken when you plug your phone in and turn on mtm just your phone comes up then inside that should be two folders. That's how it was for me but once I'm out of class ill double check and give you my details for it. What I did notice just as a side note, some stuff I coppied off my SD card from my i777 like pics and vids and pdf files wont show up in the phone. I reformated the card before I put my ion stuff on it and then the old files. Doesn't matter about that though just tossing it out there.
Also debug mode might cause issues. That is under settings> applications >development
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I cant seem to replicate this. I have had zero issue with mounting or reading. I plug my phone in and get a separate directory for my Ion. Once I open it I have my two cards showing. I just went in and pulled a video off the internal storage and copied it to my computer with no issue. I have not installed PC companion.
One thing I do like about this device is it cuts out the step of mounting from the phone. You just plug it in and go which is kinda nice.
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Get a file manager app copy the video folder to the root of your SD card. Ext_card is just how the phone differentiates between internal and external and if I'm not mistaken when you plug your phone in and turn on mtm just your phone comes up then inside that should be two folders. That's how it was for me but once I'm out of class ill double check and give you my details for it. What I did notice just as a side note, some stuff I coppied off my SD card from my i777 like pics and vids and pdf files wont show up in the phone. I reformated the card before I put my ion stuff on it and then the old files. Doesn't matter about that though just tossing it out there.
Also debug mode might cause issues. That is under settings> applications >development
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Let me clarify, both internal and external memory is visible, but not editable with MTP.
I want to be able to drag and drop between the two in windows explorer but you can't.
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OK, I have auto turn on mcs turned on and I plugged in my phone. Under my computer I have Lt28at under portable devices and then under devices with multiple storage I have removable disk k my SD card and I can drag and drop. Make sure you're not connected through the Hdmi port
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OK, I have auto turn on mcs turned on and I plugged in my phone. Under my computer I have Lt28at under portable devices and then under devices with multiple storage I have removable disk k my SD card and I can drag and drop. Make sure you're not connected through the Hdmi port
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I don't know about connecting through HDMI port, USB to USB I think it what we're all talking about.
If I turn on MSC, then the External card is visible and editable, but the internal memory become unavailable. When you switch the connectivity over to MSC, it evens tells you this will happen.
So are you saying that in MSC mode, you can access and edit both internal and external memory on your LT28?
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I don't know about connecting through HDMI port, USB to USB I think it what we're all talking about.
If I turn on MSC, then the External card is visible and editable, but the internal memory become unavailable. When you switch the connectivity over to MSC, it evens tells you this will happen.
So are you saying that in MSC mode, you can access and edit both internal and external memory on your LT28?
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Yes I took a pic off my SD card put it on my phone mem and the reverse. Any folders on my phone mem that show up as. .foldername wont show up on PC. And SD card isn't usable on your phone while its connected
Is there something you did you can tell me step by step so were on the same page so I see what you're attempting? Also of you get the app file manager you can just copy a folder and move it on the phone
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can any one help me and suggest a method to enable the mass storage mode in my note 2 , when connected to my laptop ?
Firstly why? MTP is better when you get it working as you don' t need to unmount anything from the phone first!
Secondly, it is likely to be possible yes probably very similar to how it was hacked to work on the s3, however it only worked for external sd and caused lots of corruptions to sd cards... so it is far from perfect.
My advice would be to get used to MTP.
i was need it to let my stereo car read mp3 files i solved by installing an s3 hack that can make the extsd a mass storage unit take a look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711009 it worked for me i'm with omega v4 rom
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Firstly why? MTP is better when you get it working as you don' t need to unmount anything from the phone first!
Secondly, it is likely to be possible yes probably very similar to how it was hacked to work on the s3, however it only worked for external sd and caused lots of corruptions to sd cards... so it is far from perfect.
My advice would be to get used to MTP.
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I understand what you mean but. ..it becomes virtually impossible and frustrating to transfer stuff to internal memory or even external memory because it is slow. ..Very slow
External memory I can manage by taking out my card and using an adapter to plug it into my laptop card slot..
Is there a way to mount internal memory as usb mass storage? I don't mind if I have to turn my phone off or something
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Did you try Airdroid?
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try Kies over wifi...
it transfer data using local connection and transfers GBs of files in some minutes definitely MUCH faster than MTP and prefer it to AirDroid, but it hasnt been working lately (last time i checked was a week or two back)
This is a problem for those like me using Ubuntu. I never managed to make MTP work on it.
Wi-Fi transfer of files can be done with X-Link, but the lack of mass storage is a nuisance.
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Yes, MTP is a big problem on Ubuntu. I have tried 3 implementations of MTP protocol on 12.04 and 12.10, no dice.
i'm searching for an answer. worst thing with mtp is the fact that it hides directories from you! so you can't backup everything properly. annoying
bump! MTP is too/painfully slow. Reminds me of 1995. We need an alternative. Whoever put up this technology without due consideration and testing, before deploying it on these popular devices needs to be consider a different job.
looks like I wont be getting this phone until mass storage mode is added
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can any one help me and suggest a method to enable the mass storage mode in my note 2 , when connected to my laptop ?
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Unfortunately, there is no way to enable UMS mode without rooting the phone.
I had to find a solution for my car stereo be able to read mp3 files.
I just rooted the phone and install SGS3 easy UMS ( PlayStore ). Yes its working just perfect on NoteII.
I'm using Ubuntu at work and it works like a charm as well.
Don't forget to unmount the drive in Ubuntu before unplug, and stop the service on Windows.
Also, on the UMS app, switch back to MTP before unplug, to avoid files errors ( no problem if u are just reading, ie: car stereo)
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Unfortunately, there is no way to enable UMS mode without rooting the phone.
I had to find a solution for my car stereo be able to read mp3 files.
I just rooted the phone and install SGS3 easy UMS ( PlayStore ). Yes its working just perfect on NoteII.
I'm using Ubuntu at work and it works like a charm as well.
Don't forget to unmount the drive in Ubuntu before unplug, and stop the service on Windows.
Also, on the UMS app, switch back to MTP before unplug, to avoid files errors ( no problem if u are just reading, ie: car stereo)
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Hello,
one question - how to make two-way sync folders between my laptop and SGN2?
I always did it with GoodSync, but now it is impossible...
thx
Haha isn't this a cool icon? ---->
Gah.... I was hoping there was a way to USB mass storage on this phone. I guess I should have done more research on the phone before I bought it. I'm still in my 2 week return it period, but that's not THAT much of a deal breaker. Just really stupid... Why can't I have it all?? I mean we finally got USB host (OTG or whatever; same same) from a stock phone, only to lose USB Mass Storage! Oh the frustrations!
Dramatics aside, will a custom ROM allow something different? I'm not clear on what layer this MTP mode is operating at. I did think it was funny that it popped up as a camera type device in Windows. Right now I'm only using internal flash. Usually I want to browse pics on the phone from the PC, and in this case, if I use IrfanView to open one on the device, it copies it local and then opens it, so I can't scroll through them. Silly, and mildly frustrating. :-/
I'm going to look into some networking options to see if those work (Kies, AirDroid, maybe FTP). Actually, Dropbox might solve this particular problem for me now that I think of it.
I saw the thread for mounting external SD as USB mass storage. I take it there's no way to co-mount the internal storage as a USB mass storage device?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711009
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Gah.... I was hoping there was a way to USB mass storage on this phone. I guess I should have done more research on the phone before I bought it. I'm still in my 2 week return it period, but that's not THAT much of a deal breaker. Just really stupid... Why can't I have it all?? I mean we finally got USB host (OTG or whatever; same same) from a stock phone, only to lose USB Mass Storage! Oh the frustrations!
Dramatics aside, will a custom ROM allow something different? I'm not clear on what layer this MTP mode is operating at. I did think it was funny that it popped up as a camera type device in Windows. Right now I'm only using internal flash. Usually I want to browse pics on the phone from the PC, and in this case, if I use IrfanView to open one on the device, it copies it local and then opens it, so I can't scroll through them. Silly, and mildly frustrating. :-/
I'm going to look into some networking options to see if those work (Kies, AirDroid, maybe FTP). Actually, Dropbox might solve this particular problem for me now that I think of it.
I saw the thread for mounting external SD as USB mass storage. I take it there's no way to co-mount the internal storage as a USB mass storage device?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711009
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Well, Samsung turned off the USB Mass Storage for obvious reasons. But anyway, I can access both memories from my computers, using MS Windows.
On windows, there's no problem at all as you can manage all the files directly from explorer.
On Other systems, the problem is different. For some reasons, like with all other systems (ie car stereo or media player...), the galaxy will not be recognized because MTP needs drivers. Then, you have to use UMS and the only way to install and use it is to root the phone. But keep in mind UMS will only permit access to external memory card.
Well, if I have to transfer files from internal memory through UMS, I copy the files I need to external memory before using it..... That's not a big problem , is it ? And because your phone is rooted, you can even find a script to copy some folders automatically.
Hope I'm clear enough and it helps.
Ok, I have had this phone for 2 days now, and still don't know how to get it to show up as a USB mass storage device. Is there something that I'm missing here?
I have all the updated LG software installed. All other connection methods seem to work. I have even tried a widgetsoid switcher to force the issue, but that didn't do it like it did on an older phone I had.
It would sure be nice if this was an option in the USB menu. How hard would that have been?
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Ok, I have had this phone for 2 days now, and still don't know how to get it to show up as a USB mass storage device. Is there something that I'm missing here?
I have all the updated LG software installed. All other connection methods seem to work. I have even tried a widgetsoid switcher to force the issue, but that didn't do it like it did on an older phone I had.
It would sure be nice if this was an option in the USB menu. How hard would that have been?
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I am wondering the same thing. I got around it by using the MicroSD card in a card reader but it would be nice to do it though the phone.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think native support for USB mass storage was discontinued in ICS. Some companies still provide it but it's not natively included anymore.
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I really hope someone corrects you if you're wrong, because if you're not, that would be the most disappointing news of the year.
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I really hope someone corrects you if you're wrong, because if you're not, that would be the most disappointing news of the year.
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Don't you just go to settings and then pc connection, just select media and then hit cancel when its trying to sync? Shows up as 25GB mass storage for me.
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Don't you just go to settings and then pc connection, just select media and then hit cancel when its trying to sync? Shows up as 25GB mass storage for me.
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Do you mean the popup on the phone? "Autorun is running to check USB driver"? If so, I tried that, but no dice.
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Go here http://www.lg.com/us/support-mobile/lg-LS970 and get the USB drivers. Uninstall the ones you have if they are not the exact same, then reboot. On the phone select PC Connection in the System Settings Menu. Set the USB Connection to Media Sync (MTP) and check Ask on connection. Leave everything else off. When you plug it in it will say its checking USB driver, just hit skip, and it should mount. It may mount and unmount, then mount again.
This works for me.
You should update Windows Media Player if running on XP
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Go here http://www.lg.com/us/support-mobile/lg-LS970 and get the USB drivers. Uninstall the ones you have if they are not the exact same, then reboot. On the phone select PC Connection in the System Settings Menu. Set the USB Connection to Media Sync (MTP) and check Ask on connection. Leave everything else off. When you plug it in it will say its checking USB driver, just hit skip, and it should mount. It may mount and unmount, then mount again.
This works for me.
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Those are the exact drivers I have.
I have this "sort of" working here on my home PC (Windows 7). When I am connected as MTP, the phone shows up in My Computer and Device Manager under "Portable Devices". I can go into the internal storage, and move, cut, copy, delete files, but it's not even perfect because if I want to do something as simple as open an excel file, modify it, and then save it, I can't. Windows instead asks me to save in some temporary directory because it lacks the capability to save the file directly on the phone. Which is a major hassle.
On my work computer (XP) I have these drivers installed also, and I have also installed WMFDist11-WindowsXP-X86-ENU.exe since it asked me to. Following the same steps as above, upon hitting skip, nothing happens. It never shows up as a removable drive or portable device.
There has to be an app for this or something...
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Those are the exact drivers I have.
I have this "sort of" working here on my home PC (Windows 7). When I am connected as MTP, the phone shows up in My Computer and Device Manager under "Portable Devices". I can go into the internal storage, and move, cut, copy, delete files, but it's not even perfect because if I want to do something as simple as open an excel file, modify it, and then save it, I can't. Windows instead asks me to save in some temporary directory because it lacks the capability to save the file directly on the phone. Which is a major hassle.
On my work computer (XP) I have these drivers installed also, and I have also installed WMFDist11-WindowsXP-X86-ENU.exe since it asked me to. Following the same steps as above, upon hitting skip, nothing happens. It never shows up as a removable drive or portable device.
There has to be an app for this or something...
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Well, it physically cant be mount as USB storage device, cause it will ruin files.
Unlike many other phones, The G dont have the Storage Card partition.
All your files are stored in /data/media, and mounting entire /Data/ partition as USB Storage will ruin the OS cause its being used by it.
There a folder called /Sdcard/, but its just a trick for old android apps, so all this stuff still actually stored in /Data/Media/
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Try dual mount widget.
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didn't work... any other apps that might do it?
Tim4 said:
Well, it physically cant be mount as USB storage device, cause it will ruin files.
Unlike many other phones, The G dont have the Storage Card partition.
All your files are stored in /data/media, and mounting entire /Data/ partition as USB Storage will ruin the OS cause its being used by it.
There a folder called /Sdcard/, but its just a trick for old android apps, so all this stuff still actually stored in /Data/Media/
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wow, you're right, everything I sent to my phone shows up in the /sdcard folder and also in /data/media.
why on earth would they do this? one of the best parts of android phones was that they were essentially giant usb sticks.
is this an absolutely insurmountable hardware issue? or could a new ROM/OS fix it? what about an app for creating a partition?
First of all, they did it cause of usual lacking of free space for the apps. Now you can fill all 25gbs with games and other stuff.
Second, the FAT32 just too old and bad. Since the G doesnt use the FAT FS and SD card, G doesnt have the file size limitations, pretty stable and got high write speed (Must be class 20)
I believe its must be possible to run as USB Storage from the custom recoveries, when the OS is not running.
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I believe its must be possible to run as USB Storage from the custom recoveries, when the OS is not running.
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I imagine that it will be able to do that too, but that's not very useful on a daily basis. I need it when the OS is running.
I used to use my phone to take files to work with me and back so that I could open and edit them at home. I never dreamed they would get rid of that functionality.
so no app is going to be able to take some of that space and partition it as an sd card, then?
But you still able to do it, dont you?
The only limitation of the MTP - you cant execute files directly from PC.
Also there an app called File Share, which probably solving that issue by sharing via WiFi, not the mtp.
Tim4 said:
But you still able to do it, dont you?
The only limitation of the MTP - you cant execute files directly from PC.
Also there an app called File Share, which probably solving that issue by sharing via WiFi, not the mtp.
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i'll look into File Share.
and yes, technically i can open an excel file, edit it, save to my PC, then copy the new version onto my phone, overwriting the old one. but that's a major step backwards from where we were at three years ago.
looks like File Share wouldn't really do it for me, as both the phone and the computer would need to be on the same wireless network.
at home I have a wireless network, but my PC is wired.
at work my laptop has wireless capability but there is no wireless network.
My phone can be a wireless network, though. So an app that would allow my phone and work laptop to share files through that network, would do the trick.
Or, I need an app that does the opposite of Link2SD. Link2SD takes some SD space and uses it as ROM. I need an app to take some ROM space and make a virtual SD out of it.
Does something like that exist? I bet if it doesn't, it will soon!
I really like Airdroid, simple to use, I use it on a linux computer wich is aweful about mtp file transfer, for my sister's S2. It might be an option to consider while other development occurs.
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Mangala_Dharma said:
I really like Airdroid, simple to use, I use it on a linux computer wich is aweful about mtp file transfer, for my sister's S2. It might be an option to consider while other development occurs.
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Wow! Awesome app. Does exactly what I need. Thanks!
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The usb storage. MTS or whatever you call it . Very slow, terrible for navigating/editing multiple directories/windows at once. Frustrating. Can only find size of files by going in the directory and selecting all files. Anyone know of a good quick solution to this? I've played with the common game editor but don't really see it as encompassing the solution to all the problems of not having the classical USB mount
You think thats bad? Try having Mac. I can't even get it to recognize me phone lol. I'm forced to used my windows machine.
And I believe its a JB thing, not necessarily Samsung.
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g2tegg said:
You think thats bad? Try having Mac. I can't even get it to recognize me phone lol. I'm forced to used my windows machine.
And I believe its a JB thing, not necessarily Samsung.
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I had this problem too with my macbook pro then I found a solution tonight. Try this:
1. Install Kies if you haven't already, if you have make sure it's updated.
2. Connect your phone.
3. In Kies, click Tools, then Install Drivers (this will reinstall drivers
4. Download Android File Transfer.
Should work after this. Also make sure you have USB Debugging on and use PTP not MTP.
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I had this problem too with my macbook pro then I found a solution tonight. Try this:
1. Install Kies if you haven't already, if you have make sure it's updated.
2. Connect your phone.
3. In Kies, click Tools, then Install Drivers (this will reinstall drivers
4. Download Android File Transfer.
Should work after this. Also make sure you have USB Debugging on and use PTP not MTP.
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I will be sure to give this a shot tomorrow and send along an update. I rarely use Kies, updated it yesterday but never tried the drivers thing. Android file transfer never used to work but maybe the "install drivers" step is all that's needed.
And thats why I love it here on XDA. Thanks for the help brother!
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I agree... coming from a s2 skyrocket, I really miss UMS. Why bother having expandable storage when it takes hours to transfer to a class 10 32gb sd card? That is if I can get it to transfer at all.
I'm now resorting to unmounting sd card and putting it in the computer to transfer files...big PITA
SGS3 Easy UMS doesnt work either.
Edit: Actually, I'm using kies now... still miss drag and drop
Agreed. Always had driver problems with this phone. Sometimes it wouldn't connect because drivers failed to install or "bad hardware ID" pops up in the corner. Only way to get it to work was to restart comp. And it would only work until I disconnected it, then gotta restart again. -.-
I'm gonna switch back to linux once I get some free time. I recommend you do the same.
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It was a problem in ICS as well. I think the reason for that they went with MTP is that users would create a "messy" file structure when they randomly dragged and dropped files anywhere on both the internal and external card. Samsung can keep things organized when they encourage you to use Samsung Kies to add files to the device.
The mandate for MTP is also to reduce piracy of protected media files by ensuring the DRM is properly done. In the past, I could connect my phone directly to my Samsung SMART TV and play 720/1080p movies via UMS. This is now blocked with MTP.
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It was a problem in ICS as well. I think the reason for that they went with MTP is that users would create a "messy" file structure when they randomly dragged and dropped files anywhere on both the internal and external card. Samsung can keep things organized when they encourage you to use Samsung Kies to add files to the device.
The mandate for MTP is also to reduce piracy of protected media files by ensuring the DRM is properly done. In the past, I could connect my phone directly to my Samsung SMART TV and play 720/1080p movies via UMS. This is now blocked with MTP.
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Thanks I also noticed the slow data transfer speed when I upgraded my SII to S3. Thought it was something I was doing wrong. I've changed the default transfer to PTP and will check it out tonight.
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I've changed the default transfer to PTP and will check it out tonight.
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Don't bother with PTP. PTP is just a camera. It's not like UMS so you might as well leave it on MTP
g2tegg said:
You think thats bad? Try having Mac. I can't even get it to recognize me phone lol. I'm forced to used my windows machine.
And I believe its a JB thing, not necessarily Samsung.
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I was annoyed by this as well. Now when I want to add something to my sd card I just take it out of the phone and put the sd card in my Mac and add files that way. It's a little annoying but its not that big of a deal.
I think the closest you'll get to a true UMS experience is using Samba Filesharing Server (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.funkyfresh.samba). You can then treat it like a network shared drive.
Of course you'll be limited by your WiFi speed. I think a possibility would be a USB host adapter and a USB ethernet adapter. I'm not sure if Android has support for a USB ethernet adapter but if that works then you should be able to connect to a gigabit switch/adapter and just be limited by USB2 speed.
It's not just this phone in general. They're all going that way as of ICS (Honeycomb as well) and up. If you use Windows it's not terrible but it is still slower. And yeah trying to use it with my Mac or even my Linux box is just frustrating. The primary reasoning was to merge the data and application volumes to give more space for applications. This is a better explanation of it. I do miss USB storage mode though.
Yep, totally frustrating for me also.
I remove my microSD card when I need to do lots of file management. But it's a clumsy workaround.