I am so sick of MTP instead of Mass Storage Mode. I run Linux Mint and it's simply painful to try to get MTP working properly like Mass Storage Mode did in GB. Please, ROM devs, answer my prayers.
when you can add a sd card to the phone, you will have your mass storage.
I realize people don't like change, and want to stick with UMS, but you would have to pretty much crush the awesome single partition storage of the GN to get UMS...
Just dont understand why most people are aways want SOME MORE STOREGE, how many stuff you gonna put in your device? A thousand songs or pics?
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Just dont understand why most people are aways want SOME MORE STOREGE, how many stuff you gonna put in your device? A thousand songs or pics?
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With UMS enabled, they'd theoretically have lower storage than sticking with MTP. There would have to be at least 2 partitions that would mean files couldn't span across them.
I use wifi file explorer pro. Real easy and just as effective as having mass storage. Was bummed as far as me not being able to connect and drag/drop but when i found this app its just as good.
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I can't for the life of me understand this complaint. I have no issues using MTP either in Linux or Win7. Do partition the space up would only bring about all the issues with inadequate space the Nexus One encountered.
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I don't know if it's a MTP thing, but I'm having a hell of a time copying .mkv files to the phone. I can FTP to my Thinkpad Slate at 3MB/s via wifi, the GNex capps out at 400KB/s. I've tried to connect the phone via USB to my desktop and just drag and drop and the progress bar doesn't even move. This is driving me insane.
I'm using the latest GummyNex 0.6.6.
If I recall correctly, when I was using Android Revolution 2.1.2, it was copying at 2MB/s via wifi FTP. I guess I need to look into this.
mallinj said:
I am so sick of MTP instead of Mass Storage Mode. I run Linux Mint and it's simply painful to try to get MTP working properly like Mass Storage Mode did in GB. Please, ROM devs, answer my prayers.
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Tried adbfs?
Looks like it solves your needs without introducing the troubles of mass storage mode.
I am using SAMBA...
airdroid also works well (ubuntu 10.04 and 11.10 on different machines, also better than mtp on vista for me)
it's been 8 hours and my music is still copying to my phone. MTP is completely unacceptable. it's already told me i had to skip like 30 songs before i hit "skip this message" 2 hours ago. i'm copying ~25 GB of music over and half of that is .ogg which is not natively recognized by MTP. I could have copied the 25GB onto my thunderbolt 10 times over already. I dont care what the reasoning, requirement, or intent was to remove mass storage, but it was not work it. watching my files copy at like 400 k/s to a phone plugged in with a USB 2.0 cable makes me want to return the phone.
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it's been 8 hours and my music is still copying to my phone. MTP is completely unacceptable. it's already told me i had to skip like 30 songs before i hit "skip this message" 2 hours ago. i'm copying ~25 GB of music over and half of that is .ogg which is not natively recognized by MTP. I could have copied the 25GB onto my thunderbolt 10 times over already. I dont care what the reasoning, requirement, or intent was to remove mass storage, but it was not work it. watching my files copy at like 400 k/s to a phone plugged in with a USB 2.0 cable makes me want to return the phone.
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Really? I use windows media player to sync my music and it flies. Way faster than my nexus one did. It takes about 1-3 seconds per track.
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Drag and drop the files onto the folder icon. Don't open the folder itself and then copy into it.
My problem with MTP is compatibility. Hardly anything recognizes MTP and knows what to do with it besides my PC. Things I used to connect to via USB to transfer files or backup while on the go just don't work with the nexus. So instead of having an all around portable storage device in my phone I now have to carry other devices to perform those tasks, might not sound like a big deal but its just nicer being able to have that ability in one device. MTP may be great for some but not for everyone.
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MTP may be great for some but not for everyone.
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Agreed - my primary OS is linux, I can make mtp work kinda but it's poor and slow.
However enabling UMS would require repartitioning the GN and afaik no one's done it or said they plan on doing it.
Most people find wireless transfer much more satisfactory for this phone - I've only used airdroid but others have set up their own wireless ftp server. There are probably other apps that do it...
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Tried adbfs?
Looks like it solves your needs without introducing the troubles of mass storage mode.
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is it an app on the phone or computer (windows/linux)?
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I have been very excited about the GN since it was announced. I love the big screen and the fact that it is a pure Android phone.
There has been a lot of talk about the lack of Mass Storage on the GN, but I am not sure I care. I don't really understand what happens with MTP. So I have some questions that perhaps those familiar can fill me in on.
When you plug the phone into a Windows PC, what happens?
-Can I still drag music over to the phone or do I have to use some kind of a wizard?
-I will ONLY be able to copy over music, videos and pictures correct? I can't copy other data over, for example a ROM via USB right?
- I can still copy things like ROMs over using a file manager and WiFi correct?
Thanks!
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I have been very excited about the GN since it was announced. I love the big screen and the fact that it is a pure Android phone.
There has been a lot of talk about the lack of Mass Storage on the GN, but I am not sure I care. I don't really understand what happens with MTP. So I have some questions that perhaps those familiar can fill me in on.
When you plug the phone into a Windows PC, what happens?
-Can I still drag music over to the phone or do I have to use some kind of a wizard?
-I will ONLY be able to copy over music, videos and pictures correct? I can't copy other data over, for example a ROM via USB right?
- I can still copy things like ROMs over using a file manager and WiFi correct?
Thanks!
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Provided that the Windows PC is Windows XP + WMP10 or above, it'll function very similarily to a normal drive, except you will just see it as "Galaxy Nexus" instead of being represented with a drive letter.
You can copy anything you desire, only PTP has a restriction of accessing the camera/picture folders.
It is said that transferring larger files or a bigger queue of files may lead to freezing or cancelled transfers, but i've personally not experienced that yet(On my Eee Pad Transformer)
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Provided that the Windows PC is Windows XP + WMP10 or above, it'll function very similarily to a normal drive, except you will just see it as "Galaxy Nexus" instead of being represented with a drive letter.
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Thanks! So if that is the case, why all the talk that people are disappointed that Mass Storage support is not there? If it still appears and you can still copy files over, what is the problem? Do people really want a drive letter that badly? For what? Scripting of some soft?
How does this affect mounting the phone under Linux?
With my current phone, I plug it in and since it is a mass storage device Fedora simply assigns it as a hard drive /dev/sdb for example. I can then just mount the SD card inside the phone.
Is this going to cause a major headache for me? I'm switching to a Linux phone to get away from all this Windows crap!
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I'm switching to a Linux phone to get away from all this Windows crap!
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You are going to have to deal with all the Linux crap, including the additional software you will need to make MTP work for you.
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Thanks! So if that is the case, why all the talk that people are disappointed that Mass Storage support is not there? If it still appears and you can still copy files over, what is the problem? Do people really want a drive letter that badly? For what? Scripting of some soft?
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Actually MTP is not without it's drawbacks, due to the "lack of a drive letter", or rather it being considered a physical drive, it also means that interoperability will be harder to achieve.
This would especially be true for devices like car radios with USB support, traditionally you would be able to simply connect your phone and let it serve as a USB thumb drive, the car radio could then play music from the phone, but that won't be possible due to MTP, further more since the phone is not a drive, a program that for example does not use the windows explorer as a way to copy those files would have no concept of the drive, for example, a command prompt wouldn't be able to access the drive as it has no drive mapping.
There are other pros and cons, but i think this is the one people are the most concerned about.
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How does this affect mounting the phone under Linux?
With my current phone, I plug it in and since it is a mass storage device Fedora simply assigns it as a hard drive /dev/sdb for example. I can then just mount the SD card inside the phone.
Is this going to cause a major headache for me? I'm switching to a Linux phone to get away from all this Windows crap!
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Google has official support for MTP on Mac, as for Linux the community already has support for it as well, i don't use either system so i can't go into more detail, i just know that the support is there
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You are going to have to deal with all the Linux crap, including the additional software you will need to make MTP work for you.
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Great. Well I'm sure there will be a mod somewhere that enables mass storage.
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Great. Well I'm sure there will be a mod somewhere that enables mass storage.
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If you're referring to a mod that enables USB Mass Storage mode on the Galaxy Nexus, there likely won't be since the storage on the Galaxy Nexus is partitioned in a completely different manner to how has been done previously on Android phones.
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If you're referring to a mod that enables USB Mass Storage mode on the Galaxy Nexus, there likely won't be since the storage on the Galaxy Nexus is partitioned in a completely different manner to how has been done previously on Android phones.
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Well I guess I'll just plug it in and see what it makes of the device.
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If you're referring to a mod that enables USB Mass Storage mode on the Galaxy Nexus, there likely won't be since the storage on the Galaxy Nexus is partitioned in a completely different manner to how has been done previously on Android phones.
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I'm wondering what would happen if one put an extra partition on the phone...
not going to be the first (or even 10th) to try it though!
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I'm wondering what would happen if one put an extra partition on the phone...
not going to be the first (or even 10th) to try it though!
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Considering how Dan Morrill explains why the Galaxy Nexus has no USB Mass Storage support I certainly wouldn't want to try it
edit: to clarify, it probably is possible to do it on a modded ROM, I'm just saying that I wouldn't want to monkey around with that personally.
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I'm wondering what would happen if one put an extra partition on the phone...
not going to be the first (or even 10th) to try it though!
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Using your own bootloader/recovery there's nothing preventing you from repartitioning the Galaxy Nexus the same way how Android systems used to be partitioned before Honeycomb, i.e. with a separate FAT32 internal partition for media storage. You just have to be aware of the tradeoffs: with a separate media partition, you have USB mass storage but you'll have to manage two separate partitions for apps and media with two separate space constraints. With a unified partition you just have one constraint, but you lose the USB mass storage capability.
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Considering how Dan Morrill explains why the Galaxy Nexus has no USB Mass Storage support I certainly wouldn't want to try it
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Thanks for that link.
On Mac or Linux, MTP devices appear just as any another UMS device.
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Sounds ok then.
seems time waits for no man..... done here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359579
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seems time waits for no man..... done here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359579
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Indeed..
*this* is why I got a Nexus Something not right.. wait a couple of hours and there'll be a fix on XDA..
Sorry, but the Nexus is a pile if I can't use it as a DAP source for my car audio. Is there any possible way to enable USB mass storage? This device will have far too many compromises to be even usable if mass storage isn't present.
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Which built-in or OEM car infotainment systems support MTP?
Supposedly Ford cars with SYNC 1.0/2.0 support MTP. Windows Embedded Automotive 7 supports MTP, which is used in the MY2012+ MyFord/MyLincoln Touch systems, Nissan Leaf, Fiat 500, and some Kia models (may go under the "Uvo" system name). Alpine may use WEA7 at some point, maybe in a built-in or OEM nav system that might have a USB port that would work with the Galaxy Nexus, but I haven't found any model numbers yet. There have also been rumors that some upcoming cars (Tesla Model S, maybe?) will use Android for their infotainment systems, but nothing specific, and that doesn't guarantee MTP support.
One article mentioned using Bluetooth instead, but I'm not sure how that would work with the car's built-in Bluetooth. Possibly means pairing with a portable Garmin/TomTom nav device that supports Bluetooth A2DP, though higher end portable nav devices have flash storage for music files and can play music directly.
There are also several aftermarket head units that support MTP. Alpine, Sony, and Kenwood have some, I believe, and there may be others.
EDIT: As far as built-in goes, I think BMW has supported MTP devices on their stock audio systems for at least 3-4 years. I haven't looked at Audi or some of the better Japanese/Korean makes/models, but wouldn't surprise me if some of them did as well.
This is not the same.
This is USB host functionality, where GN can access external usb disk attached to it.
What we are talking here is GN attached to something an recognized as usb disk.
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seems time waits for no man..... done here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359579
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Well, doesn't clockworkmod recovery already allow you to repartition your storage the way you want?
And since the OS does actually support usb mass storage, it should be fairly easy to create a FAT32 partition for sd card usage. (Similar to Nexus S, which has no sd card slot but comes with 2 partitions: 1 GB internal storage apps, 15 GB for usb storage)
Why did they remove drive letter access and cripple the phone with this MTP crap?
It took me 30 seconds to copy my pictures from my Droid Incredible via drive letter, and now it's taking upwards of 20 minutes to copy them over to the Nexus.
This is completely absurd...
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Why did they remove drive letter access and cripple the phone with this MTP crap?
It took me 30 seconds to copy my pictures from my Droid Incredible via drive letter, and now it's taking upwards of 20 minutes to copy them over to the Nexus.
This is completely absurd...
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Copying a files to/from my Galaxy Nexus takes no time at all. Much faster file transfer than on my previous phone and USB drive. Have you tried removing the driver and installing the naked samsung drivers?
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Why did they remove drive letter access and cripple the phone with this MTP crap?
It took me 30 seconds to copy my pictures from my Droid Incredible via drive letter, and now it's taking upwards of 20 minutes to copy them over to the Nexus.
This is completely absurd...
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And yet I'm having the exact opposite experience; on both a desktop PC and MacBook Pro with Android File Transfer, the performance of the Galaxy Nexus' filesystem has been miles ahead of the 8GB Class 10 MicroSD card I had in my previous device.
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And yet I'm having the exact opposite experience; on both a desktop PC and MacBook Pro with Android File Transfer, the performance of the Galaxy Nexus' filesystem has been miles ahead of the 8GB Class 10 MicroSD card I had in my previous device.
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I can't get the android file transfer to work on my mac. I download the dmg file and drag to applications, but it stil doesn't read my device. Am I doing something wrong? Can you shd some light for me?
And here comes the flood of "im not happy" threads.
You should have known it was MTP before you purchased it. Not trying to start an e-flame but just sayin'.
My connection always messes up, all my music got deleted last night. I'm having trouble copying music over. I'm ditching the stock ROM asap, hopefully one of the custom ROMs has mass storage.
I have to agree, I've hated MTP since the WinXP days when I first hooked up a camera directly. Had tons of corrupted files during transfers so I switched to taking out the memory cards and accessing them with USB readers.
Even now with the nexus I have trouble with files not even showing up properly in explorer but are clearly there when I use a file manager on the phone itself.
I copied a 500mb film from my pc to my phone in no-time. Must be your pc that causes the problem.
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I'm not sure why everybody needs to install stuff. I plugged the phone into my MBP and it popped up the contents. Plugged it into my W7 gaming machine and it popped up the contents.
Transfer times were the same, or faster, as they are on my Galaxy S II and Rezound.
Then again, unless it's more than 3-5 files I just use WiFi File Explorer. Fantastic way to transfer files to/from. Definitely worth the $.99 for the full version (demo only allows downloading *from* phone, not uploading to).
It's a trade-off. This way we can use the entire storage space. Just one big partition where all your apps and app data go. No more "internal storage" vs "external storage."
Mtp is very slow and makes windows crash.
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Mtp is very slow and makes windows crash.
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Maybe on your PC.
Everything works fine here with MTP, even better than Mass Storage before...
I love whatever they did. On my Thunderbolt, it would take a long time to copy files, but with the GN, it's as fast as anything! Not to mention I don't have to screw with turning on the phone, turning on USB, doing my work, turning the phone on, turning off USB, etc.
It's always on, available, and awesome!
I find that I have a lot better luck with my windows 7 machine than I do with my Vista machine.
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I'm having better luck with the good 'ol console.
adb push has been outperforming MTP for me.
So does MTP mean there's nothing to "eject" and you just pull the plug out of the phone?
Not on my PC it doesn't.
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So does MTP mean there's nothing to "eject" and you just pull the plug out of the phone?
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Yes there's no "eject" at all, because the system isn't actually mounted like it is in USB mass storage. Meaning you can still interact with the files on your phone when you're transferring to/from the phone.
I just transferred a 5.00GB mkv file in 16 minutes. That's roughly 5.2MB/sec. *Shrug*.
I'd prefer USB Mass Storage...
Anyone else notice that the pc's volume goes down when the device is unplugged?
I have Pandora playing on Win7 and unplugging the phone causes the volume for Pandora to drop. This is noticeable in the Volume Mixer.
I've read about this on the Galaxy Nexus but I'm not sure how it works. Is it like how my mom's Kodak point and shoot camera works, where it shows up as a device instead of a drive? Also where you can't show stuff like "size, date created, etc"?
It shows up like a camera, kinda. You can still get a "details" view of the files though in an explorer window (or with AFT on OSX).
I use OSX so sadly I am only able to share my experience from that perspective. I've only used MTP but when I connect it Android File Transfer comes up automatically. Its nothing more than a simple file explorer in which you can add or remove files but not move them around or anything like that. The big advantage of MTP however is that I am able to use the internal storage while the device is "mounted" on my computer.
It sucks a$$..just know that..I hate it its glitchy n slower than usb
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It sucks a$$..just know that..I hate it its glitchy n slower than usb
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what kind of slow are we looking at? i'm currently used to 2.5MB/s transfer speeds with my "class 4" MicroSD card on my Epic Touch 4G.
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what kind of slow are we looking at? i'm currently used to 2.5MB/s transfer speeds with my "class 4" MicroSD card on my Epic Touch 4G.
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The transfer speed is the same... it's just USB2.0 speed. The tool/protocol in tandem with explorer can be kinda slow to respond though.
Using AFT on OSX, I've had no issues with speed. Its often even faster than UMS because there's no mount/unmount time.
My biggest gripe with AFT is that it crashes the USB stack on my MacBook Air, then the keyboard and trackpad stop working.
Anybody else have a similar issue?
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My biggest gripe with AFT is that it crashes the USB stack on my MacBook Air, then the keyboard and trackpad stop working.
Anybody else have a similar issue?
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Never happened to me before.
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Never happened to me before.
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Yeah that doesn't happen to me either
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AFT freezes every time I try to use it. I'm using Airdroid now and it works really good.
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AFT freezes every time I try to use it. I'm using Airdroid now and it works really good.
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Its definitely finnicky. I do my best to unlock the device, plug in, transfer, and unplug. Get it done and get out!
My experience is it works great with Windows, but not in Ubuntu or Linux Mint & since I use Linux I don't like it. I use wifi explorer pro to transfer files.
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I use OSX so sadly I am only able to share my experience from that perspective. I've only used MTP but when I connect it Android File Transfer comes up automatically. Its nothing more than a simple file explorer in which you can add or remove files but not move them around or anything like that. The big advantage of MTP however is that I am able to use the internal storage while the device is "mounted" on my computer.
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I don't like it. I'm on Windows so it works naively. On my Galaxy S II you could just use a widget called Multi-Mount that allowed you to do the same thing, except they'd show up as normal drives (I say they because if you use the microSD slot in the S2, you get two drives, internal and microSD), not an MTP connection.
That's not the reason for using MTP though. MTP is being used because all of the device's memory is pretty much one one partition and anything beyond that is symlinked. So no more 2GB of app storage and 30GB of whatever. It's all app storage, file storage, etc. That's what makes the Galaxy Nexus's internal storage configuration different from any other phone's. They used MTP because, since the OS is also sharing the same big memory partition, it needs to be accessible by the CPU to continue running while you're transferring files.
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That's not the reason for using MTP though. MTP is being used because all of the device's memory is pretty much one one partition and anything beyond that is symlinked. So no more 2GB of app storage and 30GB of whatever. It's all app storage, file storage, etc.
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And this is why Google is going with single partition storage w/o expandability and MTP transfer. It's the best overall solution.
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I use OSX so sadly I am only able to share my experience from that perspective. I've only used MTP but when I connect it Android File Transfer comes up automatically. Its nothing more than a simple file explorer in which you can add or remove files but not move them around or anything like that. The big advantage of MTP however is that I am able to use the internal storage while the device is "mounted" on my computer.
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And this is why Google is going with single partition storage w/o expandability and MTP transfer. It's the best overall solution.
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There was nothing stopping them from adding a microSD card slot though. It could have showed up normally. Like I said, on my Galaxy S2, through a normal connection, I have two drives show up. One is for the microSD card slot, and one is for the internal 16GB storage. They're non-MTP.
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There was nothing stopping them from adding a microSD card slot though. It could have showed up normally. Like I said, on my Galaxy S2, through a normal connection, I have two drives show up. One is for the microSD card slot, and one is for the internal 16GB storage. They're non-MTP.
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But it'd be the same bad experience of having separate storage areas and having MTP for part and UMS for the other part. Its best to just keep it all internal and use MTP.
just read up on the MTP transfer speeds. Looks like i'll have to go into CWM to transfer
Is it slow transferring from phone to PC also?
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just read up on the MTP transfer speeds. Looks like i'll have to go into CWM to transfer
Is it slow transferring from phone to PC also?
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Its not slow... At least on OSX it's been just fine as I said before.
Works great in windows. Can't get it working in Linux at all.
MTP is fast for me.
I transferred 3gb of video in about 10 minutes. Its not revolutionary, but its not slow.
can any one help me and suggest a method to enable the mass storage mode in my note 2 , when connected to my laptop ?
Firstly why? MTP is better when you get it working as you don' t need to unmount anything from the phone first!
Secondly, it is likely to be possible yes probably very similar to how it was hacked to work on the s3, however it only worked for external sd and caused lots of corruptions to sd cards... so it is far from perfect.
My advice would be to get used to MTP.
i was need it to let my stereo car read mp3 files i solved by installing an s3 hack that can make the extsd a mass storage unit take a look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711009 it worked for me i'm with omega v4 rom
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Firstly why? MTP is better when you get it working as you don' t need to unmount anything from the phone first!
Secondly, it is likely to be possible yes probably very similar to how it was hacked to work on the s3, however it only worked for external sd and caused lots of corruptions to sd cards... so it is far from perfect.
My advice would be to get used to MTP.
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I understand what you mean but. ..it becomes virtually impossible and frustrating to transfer stuff to internal memory or even external memory because it is slow. ..Very slow
External memory I can manage by taking out my card and using an adapter to plug it into my laptop card slot..
Is there a way to mount internal memory as usb mass storage? I don't mind if I have to turn my phone off or something
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Did you try Airdroid?
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try Kies over wifi...
it transfer data using local connection and transfers GBs of files in some minutes definitely MUCH faster than MTP and prefer it to AirDroid, but it hasnt been working lately (last time i checked was a week or two back)
This is a problem for those like me using Ubuntu. I never managed to make MTP work on it.
Wi-Fi transfer of files can be done with X-Link, but the lack of mass storage is a nuisance.
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Yes, MTP is a big problem on Ubuntu. I have tried 3 implementations of MTP protocol on 12.04 and 12.10, no dice.
i'm searching for an answer. worst thing with mtp is the fact that it hides directories from you! so you can't backup everything properly. annoying
bump! MTP is too/painfully slow. Reminds me of 1995. We need an alternative. Whoever put up this technology without due consideration and testing, before deploying it on these popular devices needs to be consider a different job.
looks like I wont be getting this phone until mass storage mode is added
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can any one help me and suggest a method to enable the mass storage mode in my note 2 , when connected to my laptop ?
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Unfortunately, there is no way to enable UMS mode without rooting the phone.
I had to find a solution for my car stereo be able to read mp3 files.
I just rooted the phone and install SGS3 easy UMS ( PlayStore ). Yes its working just perfect on NoteII.
I'm using Ubuntu at work and it works like a charm as well.
Don't forget to unmount the drive in Ubuntu before unplug, and stop the service on Windows.
Also, on the UMS app, switch back to MTP before unplug, to avoid files errors ( no problem if u are just reading, ie: car stereo)
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Unfortunately, there is no way to enable UMS mode without rooting the phone.
I had to find a solution for my car stereo be able to read mp3 files.
I just rooted the phone and install SGS3 easy UMS ( PlayStore ). Yes its working just perfect on NoteII.
I'm using Ubuntu at work and it works like a charm as well.
Don't forget to unmount the drive in Ubuntu before unplug, and stop the service on Windows.
Also, on the UMS app, switch back to MTP before unplug, to avoid files errors ( no problem if u are just reading, ie: car stereo)
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Hello,
one question - how to make two-way sync folders between my laptop and SGN2?
I always did it with GoodSync, but now it is impossible...
thx
Haha isn't this a cool icon? ---->
Gah.... I was hoping there was a way to USB mass storage on this phone. I guess I should have done more research on the phone before I bought it. I'm still in my 2 week return it period, but that's not THAT much of a deal breaker. Just really stupid... Why can't I have it all?? I mean we finally got USB host (OTG or whatever; same same) from a stock phone, only to lose USB Mass Storage! Oh the frustrations!
Dramatics aside, will a custom ROM allow something different? I'm not clear on what layer this MTP mode is operating at. I did think it was funny that it popped up as a camera type device in Windows. Right now I'm only using internal flash. Usually I want to browse pics on the phone from the PC, and in this case, if I use IrfanView to open one on the device, it copies it local and then opens it, so I can't scroll through them. Silly, and mildly frustrating. :-/
I'm going to look into some networking options to see if those work (Kies, AirDroid, maybe FTP). Actually, Dropbox might solve this particular problem for me now that I think of it.
I saw the thread for mounting external SD as USB mass storage. I take it there's no way to co-mount the internal storage as a USB mass storage device?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711009
AllanonMage said:
Gah.... I was hoping there was a way to USB mass storage on this phone. I guess I should have done more research on the phone before I bought it. I'm still in my 2 week return it period, but that's not THAT much of a deal breaker. Just really stupid... Why can't I have it all?? I mean we finally got USB host (OTG or whatever; same same) from a stock phone, only to lose USB Mass Storage! Oh the frustrations!
Dramatics aside, will a custom ROM allow something different? I'm not clear on what layer this MTP mode is operating at. I did think it was funny that it popped up as a camera type device in Windows. Right now I'm only using internal flash. Usually I want to browse pics on the phone from the PC, and in this case, if I use IrfanView to open one on the device, it copies it local and then opens it, so I can't scroll through them. Silly, and mildly frustrating. :-/
I'm going to look into some networking options to see if those work (Kies, AirDroid, maybe FTP). Actually, Dropbox might solve this particular problem for me now that I think of it.
I saw the thread for mounting external SD as USB mass storage. I take it there's no way to co-mount the internal storage as a USB mass storage device?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711009
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Well, Samsung turned off the USB Mass Storage for obvious reasons. But anyway, I can access both memories from my computers, using MS Windows.
On windows, there's no problem at all as you can manage all the files directly from explorer.
On Other systems, the problem is different. For some reasons, like with all other systems (ie car stereo or media player...), the galaxy will not be recognized because MTP needs drivers. Then, you have to use UMS and the only way to install and use it is to root the phone. But keep in mind UMS will only permit access to external memory card.
Well, if I have to transfer files from internal memory through UMS, I copy the files I need to external memory before using it..... That's not a big problem , is it ? And because your phone is rooted, you can even find a script to copy some folders automatically.
Hope I'm clear enough and it helps.
The usb storage. MTS or whatever you call it . Very slow, terrible for navigating/editing multiple directories/windows at once. Frustrating. Can only find size of files by going in the directory and selecting all files. Anyone know of a good quick solution to this? I've played with the common game editor but don't really see it as encompassing the solution to all the problems of not having the classical USB mount
You think thats bad? Try having Mac. I can't even get it to recognize me phone lol. I'm forced to used my windows machine.
And I believe its a JB thing, not necessarily Samsung.
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g2tegg said:
You think thats bad? Try having Mac. I can't even get it to recognize me phone lol. I'm forced to used my windows machine.
And I believe its a JB thing, not necessarily Samsung.
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I had this problem too with my macbook pro then I found a solution tonight. Try this:
1. Install Kies if you haven't already, if you have make sure it's updated.
2. Connect your phone.
3. In Kies, click Tools, then Install Drivers (this will reinstall drivers
4. Download Android File Transfer.
Should work after this. Also make sure you have USB Debugging on and use PTP not MTP.
johnnyutah22 said:
I had this problem too with my macbook pro then I found a solution tonight. Try this:
1. Install Kies if you haven't already, if you have make sure it's updated.
2. Connect your phone.
3. In Kies, click Tools, then Install Drivers (this will reinstall drivers
4. Download Android File Transfer.
Should work after this. Also make sure you have USB Debugging on and use PTP not MTP.
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I will be sure to give this a shot tomorrow and send along an update. I rarely use Kies, updated it yesterday but never tried the drivers thing. Android file transfer never used to work but maybe the "install drivers" step is all that's needed.
And thats why I love it here on XDA. Thanks for the help brother!
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I agree... coming from a s2 skyrocket, I really miss UMS. Why bother having expandable storage when it takes hours to transfer to a class 10 32gb sd card? That is if I can get it to transfer at all.
I'm now resorting to unmounting sd card and putting it in the computer to transfer files...big PITA
SGS3 Easy UMS doesnt work either.
Edit: Actually, I'm using kies now... still miss drag and drop
Agreed. Always had driver problems with this phone. Sometimes it wouldn't connect because drivers failed to install or "bad hardware ID" pops up in the corner. Only way to get it to work was to restart comp. And it would only work until I disconnected it, then gotta restart again. -.-
I'm gonna switch back to linux once I get some free time. I recommend you do the same.
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And I believe its a JB thing, not necessarily Samsung.
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It was a problem in ICS as well. I think the reason for that they went with MTP is that users would create a "messy" file structure when they randomly dragged and dropped files anywhere on both the internal and external card. Samsung can keep things organized when they encourage you to use Samsung Kies to add files to the device.
The mandate for MTP is also to reduce piracy of protected media files by ensuring the DRM is properly done. In the past, I could connect my phone directly to my Samsung SMART TV and play 720/1080p movies via UMS. This is now blocked with MTP.
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It was a problem in ICS as well. I think the reason for that they went with MTP is that users would create a "messy" file structure when they randomly dragged and dropped files anywhere on both the internal and external card. Samsung can keep things organized when they encourage you to use Samsung Kies to add files to the device.
The mandate for MTP is also to reduce piracy of protected media files by ensuring the DRM is properly done. In the past, I could connect my phone directly to my Samsung SMART TV and play 720/1080p movies via UMS. This is now blocked with MTP.
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Thanks I also noticed the slow data transfer speed when I upgraded my SII to S3. Thought it was something I was doing wrong. I've changed the default transfer to PTP and will check it out tonight.
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I've changed the default transfer to PTP and will check it out tonight.
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Don't bother with PTP. PTP is just a camera. It's not like UMS so you might as well leave it on MTP
g2tegg said:
You think thats bad? Try having Mac. I can't even get it to recognize me phone lol. I'm forced to used my windows machine.
And I believe its a JB thing, not necessarily Samsung.
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I was annoyed by this as well. Now when I want to add something to my sd card I just take it out of the phone and put the sd card in my Mac and add files that way. It's a little annoying but its not that big of a deal.
I think the closest you'll get to a true UMS experience is using Samba Filesharing Server (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.funkyfresh.samba). You can then treat it like a network shared drive.
Of course you'll be limited by your WiFi speed. I think a possibility would be a USB host adapter and a USB ethernet adapter. I'm not sure if Android has support for a USB ethernet adapter but if that works then you should be able to connect to a gigabit switch/adapter and just be limited by USB2 speed.
It's not just this phone in general. They're all going that way as of ICS (Honeycomb as well) and up. If you use Windows it's not terrible but it is still slower. And yeah trying to use it with my Mac or even my Linux box is just frustrating. The primary reasoning was to merge the data and application volumes to give more space for applications. This is a better explanation of it. I do miss USB storage mode though.
Yep, totally frustrating for me also.
I remove my microSD card when I need to do lots of file management. But it's a clumsy workaround.