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One X is power hungry!

Just thought I'd share a screenshot of a warning message that recently popped up on my One X while playing a game...
The device was plugged into the factory charger at the time, screen was set to lowest brightness, wifi on and a 2g cell connection.
Specs of the factory charger are 5 volts @ 1 amp, this equals 5 watts...the One X was consuming more than 5 watts of energy at that point in time to trigger the warning!!!
I'd never even considered that one day a phone would be capable of using more current than the factory charger can supply... talk about a beast!
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bircoe said:
Just thought I'd share a screenshot of a warning message that recently popped up on my One X while playing a game...
The device was plugged into the factory charger at the time, screen was set to lowest brightness, wifi on and a 2g cell connection.
Specs of the factory charger are 5 volts @ 1 amp, this equals 5 watts...the One X was consuming more than 5 watts of energy at that point in time to trigger the warning!!!
I'd never even considered that one day a phone would be capable of using more current than the factory charger can supply... talk about a beast!
Edit: removed pic and attached instead.
Edit2: Turns out the forum doesn't like file names with a + in them!
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what game is it that you are actually trying to play? I tried leaving youtube and two other games on, with wifi hotspot turned on and then played asphalt adrenaline which I think is graphically intensive and yet I could charge my phone at the same time. Try ARHD, it may be the ROM where the problem lies

bircoe said:
Just thought I'd share a screenshot of a warning message that recently popped up on my One X while playing a game...
The device was plugged into the factory charger at the time, screen was set to lowest brightness, wifi on and a 2g cell connection.
Specs of the factory charger are 5 volts @ 1 amp, this equals 5 watts...the One X was consuming more than 5 watts of energy at that point in time to trigger the warning!!!
I'd never even considered that one day a phone would be capable of using more current than the factory charger can supply... talk about a beast!
Edit: removed pic and attached instead.
Edit2: Turns out the forum doesn't like file names with a + in them!
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haha! hilarious pop up notification though! it should just say " are you serious...? I have 4 1.5 gig cores. "

Happens to my mums sgs2. Happens when you have lots of power hungry apps open
Sent From My HTC sensation (desire with rcmix s )

Haha, brilliant! Thanks for posting. Just shows how powerful this phone is.

shahid317 said:
what game is it that you are actually trying to play? I tried leaving youtube and two other games on, with wifi hotspot turned on and then played asphalt adrenaline which I think is graphically intensive and yet I could charge my phone at the same time. Try ARHD, it may be the ROM where the problem lies
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Game was Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit... I'm not after fixes, I just found it funny and thought others may as well, so I shared.

bircoe said:
Just thought I'd share a screenshot of a warning message that recently popped up on my One X while playing a game...
The device was plugged into the factory charger at the time, screen was set to lowest brightness, wifi on and a 2g cell connection.
Specs of the factory charger are 5 volts @ 1 amp, this equals 5 watts...the One X was consuming more than 5 watts of energy at that point in time to trigger the warning!!!
I'd never even considered that one day a phone would be capable of using more current than the factory charger can supply... talk about a beast!
Edit: removed pic and attached instead.
Edit2: Turns out the forum doesn't like file names with a + in them!
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I got this popup when playing a 10min Flash video in the stock browser when charging!

Typical nVidia!!

Lol. Ok
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk

Happened to me also....when it was very low on battery like 1-2 % and it was connected to my laptop for charging...i was transfering 10gb to my phone while downloading apps on phone also using wifi...

If the phone uses 5watt we are in a problem.

the power usage is high but there is discussion on some dev threads that the power management system is broken in the current release rom

aniketsharma9865 said:
Happened to me also....when it was very low on battery like 1-2 % and it was connected to my laptop for charging...i was transfering 10gb to my phone while downloading apps on phone also using wifi...
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That's not overly surprising... USB 2.0 ports on PC's and Laptops are only specced to deliver 500ma, that's only 2.5 watts of power, the stock charger is 5w.

I used juice defender and the power is better

I was in carphonewarehouse and they said that the one x demo was not powered on because it is not able to draw enough power from the supply.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Got the same warning when I tried to download a file over WiFi

I used something like http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/travelpower/7657/
to check the one x's power draw.
with the screen on sucks up to 5.5w, screen off is 1.5w-1.7w
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gdelrosario said:
I used something like
to check the one x's power draw.
with the screen on sucks up to 5.5v, screen off is 1.5v-1.7v
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I do hope you mean Watt, not Volt. You also have to take into account the efficiency of the charger. Should be around 90-95% but is significant.

bircoe said:
Just thought I'd share a screenshot of a warning message that recently popped up on my One X while playing a game...
The device was plugged into the factory charger at the time, screen was set to lowest brightness, wifi on and a 2g cell connection.
Specs of the factory charger are 5 volts @ 1 amp, this equals 5 watts...the One X was consuming more than 5 watts of energy at that point in time to trigger the warning!!!
I'd never even considered that one day a phone would be capable of using more current than the factory charger can supply... talk about a beast!
Edit: removed pic and attached instead.
Edit2: Turns out the forum doesn't like file names with a + in them!
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You will never get a full 1amp charging rate though. Realistically, you'll get a maximum of around 750mAh charge rate, and I've seen my HOX consume more than that too ;P
Bring on the 1.5amp chargers! 2amp will probably heat the battery up way too fast~

[Q] Battery takes more than 6 hours to charge???

I have bought a brand new p-601, since the first installation it takes more than 6 hours in battery charging.
Is it normal or there is something wrong with the battery/tablet.
Is it possible reset the binary counter to 0, cause I have rooted it twice?
Best Regards

skyhigh73 said:
I have bought a brand new p-601, since the first installation it takes more than 6 hours in battery charging.
Is it normal or there is something wrong with the battery/tablet.
Is it possible reset the binary counter to 0, cause I have rooted it twice?
Best Regards
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Yes its normal, all Exynos Note 10.1 2014 take a long time to charge, My P600 takes 5 hours however others have said it takes them 6-8hours to fully charge.

Same here
Think it's because of USB 2.0
Note 3 with USB 3.0 in roughly 2 hours
Someone could calculate the theoretical time by comparing how much power USB 2.0 can put through vs USB 3.0. Should be roughly 2 times more.
So maybe there will come a Note 10.1 Pro with USB 3.0 and NFC
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Flyer.michael said:
Think it's because of USB 2.0
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It's not USB 3.0. Only the Tab/Pro 12.2's have USB 3.0 anyway. Here's how Samsung implements USB 3.0; at least on the N3.
The Galaxy Note 3 ships with USB 3.0, unfortunately at least in its current state it doesn't seem to get any benefit from the interface. Although the internal eMMC is capable of being read from at ~100MB/s, sustained transfers from the device over adb averaged around 30MB/s regardless of whether or not I connected the Note 3 to a USB 2.0 or 3.0 host.
Update: USB 3.0 does work on the Note 3, but only when connected to a Windows PC with USB 3.0. Doing so brings up a new option in the "USB Computer Connection" picker with USB 3.0 as an option. Ticking this alerts you that using USB 3.0 might interfere with calls and data, but then switches over. Connection transfer speed is indeed faster in this mode as well, like you'd expect. It only appears on Windows as well, my earlier attempts were on OS X where this popup option never appears.
Charging is an interesting story on the Note 3, but primarily because of what doesn’t change. The Note 3 continues to use Samsung’s tablet charging specification and charger, which has 2 amps of maximum output. The Note 3 draws 2 amps over a considerable amount of the charging curve, like other Samsung devices (in the linear part of the charge curve). USB 3.0 doesn’t change things up here quite yet with the new supported charge voltages that are coming eventually with the power delivery specification.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7376/samsung-galaxy-note-3-review/3​
It's because of a Qualcomm dedicated charging circuit that's (optionally) part of S-800...
http://www.qualcomm.com/chipsets/quick-charge

Flyer.michael;4963 765 said:
Same here
Think it's because of USB 2.0
Note 3 with USB 3.0 in roughly 2 hours
Someone could calculate the theoretical time by comparing how much power USB 2.0 can put through vs USB 3.0. Should be roughly 2 times more.
So maybe there will come a Note 10.1 Pro with USB 3.0 and NFC
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The p600 has a battery capacity that is 2.56 times bigger than the note 3 (3,200 vs. 8,220mAh) so its not a fair comparison.
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My P605 My P600 takes 4 hours.. don't know about the exynos version.

It is obviously slower than any tablet or phone. Very boring and annoying. The question is how to differentiate between motherboard failure and normal slow battery charging?

Try a different cable
I was having this problem a few days back but found a hint on one of the threads I found on the internet. I was using a USB extension cable with the Samsung charger. It was taking 1 hr just to charge 1%. Then I tried not using the extension cable. It's now charging 10-15% every hour. It's likely the calbe you're using is the problem. If it's not the original cable that came with the tablet, try that cable.

I just got mine for xxxmas, and it takes about 6 hours, give or take, to go from ≈5-10% to full charge, maybe less when I don't use it; and I guess I get about the same life most have mentioned (is there a way to track charge/discharge times?).
That said, I just plugged in at 15%, and I just crossed 25% in about 20-25 minutes. I use the stock charger and cable plugged into an extension cord as thick as my arm... okay, my forefinger--hey, I like having a good extension cord that can carry the juice, the precious juice!

sflxn said:
I was having this problem a few days back but found a hint on one of the threads I found on the internet. I was using a USB extension cable with the Samsung charger. It was taking 1 hr just to charge 1%. Then I tried not using the extension cable. It's now charging 10-15% every hour. It's likely the calbe you're using is the problem. If it's not the original cable that came with the tablet, try that cable.
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Thanks for your feed back. But I have tried this solution before and changed the cable with a good one.

skyhigh73 said:
Thanks for your feed back. But I have tried this solution before and changed the cable with a good one.
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P605 here, and yes, it's normal, . It takes even longer if you're using it while charging. My philosophy is: "I sleep, he charges". Not perfect though, due to the amount of time I sleep, not much.

So my P600 Note 10.1 normally takes 5 hours to charge from 5% to 100% and the last 20% usually trickles and takes 2 hours. I remember someone on xda mentioning to unplug and then plug back when it hits 80%, so that's what I did yesterday and it took a total of 4hrs10mins from 5% to 100%. No idea how it made it charge faster but hey it worked.
P.s I use stock cable and plug.
Sent from Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition via Tapatalk.

Mine Note SM-P605 takes 5 Hours to charge and doesnt matter if have it turning off charging. Shouldnt it suppose to be around 3 hours charging time with qualcomms quickcharge 2.0?
0-100% 5-6H
10-100% 5H
How do peoples manage to get around 3H charing time with LTE version?
Im using battery monitor widget to monitor the charging, from start its around 1600mah and from 80-90% it start to drop to 1500mah-1000mah. From 90-100% it tickles down with 100mah for each 1% charge.
Is this normal? Im using Samsungs charger that comes with the box with EU adapter plug, since its HK version I got and if it does matter.

@dt33 i guess the EU adapter plug is the cause of slow charging. P605 should not be taking 5hours.
Sent from Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition via Tapatalk.

Geordie Affy said:
@dt33 i guess the EU adapter plug is the cause of slow charging. P605 should not be taking 5hours.
Sent from Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition via Tapatalk.
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Id doubt that EU adapter is causing it and also tried with 3 different adapter. Since they just make HK 3 stick plug to EU 2 plug and doesnt convert electricity.
If any have SM-P605 version and can confirm with battery monitor widget.With history stats, how much mA does it charge bewteen 0-100% and is it same as mine does?
With sceen of:
0-80% - 1600-1700mA
80-90% - 1500-1000mA
90-100% - 900-100mA for each 1% it reduce with 100mA.
Does Qualcomm tickels down charging from 80-100% as Exynos version does?

It isn't the charger or the cable, it's something to do with the battery. I've had two different units in the past week or so that have taken over 7 hours and sometimes the charging stops before it is full and the discharge varies so much from 3 hours to 10 hours with the same things open and this happens on different chargers. Samsung agreed that both units were faulty, so enough is enough, I'm going to try something else.

After reading here and elsewhere about the GN 2014 charging time, I checked mine this morning. I wanted to do that before my 15 day return is up at Bestbuy. Yesterday, I ran the GN 2014 until it came with a screen and said to connect to charger. I think it was about 3% left.. This morning I put it on the charger at 7am.. at about 11, it was almost full, I unplugged it, and then plugged it back up again, and at 12 noon it reported 100%..
I have read that at about 80% on charging, it is real slow, and to un plug and re plug at that time helps..Anyway, 5 hours to 100% is normal, so I am okay.

dt33 said:
Id doubt that EU adapter is causing it and also tried with 3 different adapter. Since they just make HK 3 stick plug to EU 2 plug and doesnt convert electricity.
If any have SM-P605 version and can confirm with battery monitor widget.With history stats, how much mA does it charge bewteen 0-100% and is it same as mine does?
With sceen of:
0-80% - 1600-1700mA
80-90% - 1500-1000mA
90-100% - 900-100mA for each 1% it reduce with 100mA.
Does Qualcomm tickels down charging from 80-100% as Exynos version does?
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what you need to test?
current i got HK version P605,
both au note2 charger and hk p605 charger

lopium said:
P605 here, and yes, it's normal, . It takes even longer if you're using it while charging. My philosophy is: "I sleep, he charges". Not perfect though, due to the amount of time I sleep, not much.
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Very nice tip. I appreciate your tip: "I sleep, he charges".
Thanks for that.

ilovemeow said:
what you need to test?
current i got HK version P605,
both au note2 charger and hk p605 charger
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Thanks for u offering, but it doesnt matter now and Im tired of Samsung. Too many buggs and none fixes and theirs customers support is none existens.
Now I also got black screen, waking it up from sleep, touch stopped responding or superlag (whatever its), cant swipe between home screens bla bla and couldnt either click on oki to reboot the device. A long press on power button for reboot is only choice.
Also suddenly battery drain from 100% - 97% just in 3 min for scrolling around home screen, appdrawer, open apps.
This tab just have too many issues and not worth mine time or buy.
Today at work, mine friend told me that his Note 8 LTE that he bought for 2 months ago, have also screen shaking problem as its with Note 2014.WTF is this?
Waiting for 4.4 and see if it resolves any of the problems. Or else, I just sell this **** and forget about Samsung.

[Q] N900T Extremely Slow to Charge- Tips?

Hello,
I bought a gently used N900T a few days ago. The device is awesome and works perfectly, except for one thing. Charging the phone with the Samsung charging cable+ac adapter takes longer than forever. It charges at a rate of approximately 8-9% per hour.
A few notes:
Device on, device off, it doesn't matter. It charges at the same slow rate.
The battery itself, once it charges, holds that charge very well.
The slow charging happened both when I was on the stock rom and on my current Slim Rom.
I have ordered a new charger and a new battery. If the slow charging persists with these new accessories, am I doomed? Is the slow charging a known issue for the Note 3? Besides the new equipment, does anyone have any advice on how to solve this?
Thanks so much!

JJ2525 said:
Hello,
I bought a gently used N900T a few days ago. The device is awesome and works perfectly, except for one thing. Charging the phone with the Samsung charging cable+ac adapter takes longer than forever. It charges at a rate of approximately 8-9% per hour.
A few notes:
Device on, device off, it doesn't matter. It charges at the same slow rate.
The battery itself, once it charges, holds that charge very well.
The slow charging happened both when I was on the stock rom and on my current Slim Rom.
I have ordered a new charger and a new battery. If the slow charging persists with these new accessories, am I doomed? Is the slow charging a known issue for the Note 3? Besides the new equipment, does anyone have any advice on how to solve this?
Thanks so much!
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Rooted? What kernel? Is fast charge supported?
TWEAKED N3

BACARDILIMON said:
Rooted? What kernel? Is fast charge supported?
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Rooted running Slim Rom v8 and LeanKernel 1.2. I'm unsure if a fast charge feature is supported.

Dude this phone charges pretty fast without any roms or mods. ..it charges fast out of the box. .. Are you using the charger that comes with...correct me if I'm wrong but I think the charger that Came with this is usb 3.0....not your regular usb charger. ..
Sent from my SM-N900T using xda app-developers app

mlock420 said:
Dude this phone charges pretty fast without any roms or mods. ..it charges fast out of the box. .. Are you using the charger that comes with...correct me if I'm wrong but I think the charger that Came with this is usb 3.0....not your regular usb charger. ..
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I am using a genuine Samsung Note 3 charger. The replacement coming is another genuine Samsung Note 3 charger. I'm sincerely hoping the one I have now has a cable problem or something. I really, really like the phone but I'm wondering if anyone else has seen a similar story or knows of a possible solution in the case that the new charger+battery do not work.

JJ2525 said:
I am using a genuine Samsung Note 3 charger. The replacement coming is another genuine Samsung Note 3 charger. I'm sincerely hoping the one I have now has a cable problem or something. I really, really like the phone but I'm wondering if anyone else has seen a similar story or knows of a possible solution in the case that the new charger+battery do not work.
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Swap to any other kernel and test it out.
TWEAKED N3

BACARDILIMON said:
Swap to any other kernel and test it out.
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As I noted, the slow charging happened on both stock rom+kernel as well as custom roms.

JJ2525 said:
As I noted, the slow charging happened on both stock rom+kernel as well as custom roms.
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So this has been doing it from day one. On your white wall charger how many amps does it say.
TWEAKED N3

It is a genuine Note 3 2 amp charger.

Lol damn 8% an hour? Sounds like mine kinda except it charges like 20% an hour it used to charge so slow. The ROM I'm running took some stabilising

chuko303 said:
Lol damn 8% an hour? Sounds like mine kinda except it charges like 20% an hour it used to charge so slow. The ROM I'm running took some stabilising
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Well I have to be honest from dead it takes about 2.5hrs to get back to 100. On stock.using the wall charger with 2amps. When he gets his new charger he should be good or a good kernel swap. Either way it should come back to normal
TWEAKED N3

I got a new charger and it's still charging at the same slow pace. What could possibly be wrong with my phone? The battery holds a charge, the phone works near flawlessly. I'm dumbfounded.

JJ2525 said:
I got a new charger and it's still charging at the same slow pace. What could possibly be wrong with my phone? The battery holds a charge, the phone works near flawlessly. I'm dumbfounded.
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You gonna have to do testing or replace phone. Me I would change kernel just cause it takes 2 seconds. Let it ride a day if no change then a factory refresh. You have checked that no app is killing phone as fast as it charges right?
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Edit. I was just on his thread and a few guys having issues with either bad batter. UV/ oc .try a different ROM and kernel. Fresh install meaning Odin back to stock and start all over. Sorry good luck

As weird as this sounds, I tried the charger in a different outlet in my home and it works a lot better. The battery charges quite fast from any level to about 96%, then starts crawling again to 97, 98 and stops at 98. I opened battery calibration, which shows the battery at 96% and 4337mv, which is the same mv level as 100% normally if memory serves me correctly. So I'm thinking the battery is "full", but for some reason won't go to 100% without a fight. Perhaps if I clear my cache+dalvik cache? Any other suggestions?

JJ2525 said:
As weird as this sounds, I tried the charger in a different outlet in my home and it works a lot better. The battery charges quite fast from any level to about 96%, then starts crawling again to 97, 98 and stops at 98. I opened battery calibration, which shows the battery at 96% and 4337mv, which is the same mv level as 100% normally if memory serves me correctly. So I'm thinking the battery is "full", but for some reason won't go to 100% without a fight. Perhaps if I clear my cache+dalvik cache? Any other suggestions?
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ROM toolbox Pro has a script to reset battery stats.
Sent from my rooted Note 3 (N900T) using XDA Premium

Can someone give me link to odin back to stock please
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What was wrong with mine it was the charger. The usb wasn't connected all the way in the AC therefore was only charging like it would through computer as soon as I fixed it with a blow of air and a gentle push it right away started charging AC phone charged in 2 hours

I could be wrong but I noticed my charging is slower when I stick my charger into a surge protector power bar as opposed to a standard wall outlet.

Mine was the charging cable I used a regular USB charger cable and it charge fast
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[Q] Battery life is so bad, it won't charge while in use

I am running BlueLightning-20140410-jflte as my ROM, with the 3.4.82-ChronicKermel-KK4.4-AOSP-JFLTE-v3.1 kernel.
I have my governor set to ondemand, with my low clock speed set to 189MHz and the highest at 918MHz.
With the sound set to one click past off, with Wifi, Mobile Data and GPS turned off, with the screen on the dimmest settings, my battery STILL drains when I have the phone plugged in, if I am actively using an app or playing a game.
I did not find a Fast Charge option on this ROM, and I had to uninstall Xposed Framework, because it was preventing several of my apps and games from running.
I can't think of a reason that the battery would still be draining this quickly, using the settings that I described.
Is there something I am doing wrong, or something I missed along the way somewhere?
Thanks in advance for any advice.

Try a different kernel
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Bad cable could be the issue.. Try swapping cables

ReikiDraven said:
I can't think of a reason that the battery would still be draining this quickly, using the settings that I described.
Is there something I am doing wrong, or something I missed along the way somewhere?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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To what are you plugged while charging? If you are plugged to a wall-outlet, make sure you are using the Samsung wall adapter (or at least one that can push 1.9A). I've found out that it isn't usually the cable that causes slow charging, but the wall adapter.
Also, download an app from the Play Store called Charging Current Lite to see what your charging rate is. While 1900mA (1.9A) is optimal, anything above 600-700mA should be enough to charge while in use. Much lower than that, you will only maintain what charge level you have or slowly drain power.

lordcheeto03 said:
To what are you plugged while charging? If you are plugged to a wall-outlet, make sure you are using the Samsung wall adapter (or at least one that can push 1.9A). I've found out that it isn't usually the cable that causes slow charging, but the wall adapter.
Also, download an app from the Play Store called Charging Current Lite to see what your charging rate is. While 1900mA (1.9A) is optimal, anything above 600-700mA should be enough to charge while in use. Much lower than that, you will only maintain what charge level you have or slowly drain power.
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It's usually the wall adapter, but it is not the one that came with my phone. I got mine off of Craigslist, and it didn't come with a charger. I've been using the same one I used on my old LG Optimus L9. I never considered that.
Figured that plugging it directly into my computer via USB would give a weaker charge, but never thought it could be the wall charger, itself.
I'll run those tests and report back. Thanks!

try a different battery or charging port if you can

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try a different battery or charging port if you can
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Charging via USB will put you in the range of around 480mA. Even with fast charge on, it's somewhere around 600-700mA.

lordcheeto03 said:
Charging via USB will put you in the range of around 480mA. Even with fast charge on, it's somewhere around 600-700mA.
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i meant change the usb port on the s4

no_username_available said:
i meant change the usb port on the s4
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:highfive:

Is it ok for battery life to only use wireless charging?

I'm a complete noob on wireless charging and this is the first time I have bought a device that has it. I bought the plain flat wireless charger for use with this Note 7 to have by my computer desk and now I'm thinking of getting one for where I place my phone every night to charge. My question to anyone who has had extensive use with wireless charging, is it ok to ONLY use wireless charging? Even overnight? Not sure if it matters but I turn my phone off to charge every night.

You should have no problems only using the wireless charger. The only difference is that wirelessly charging your phone will be slower then using the fast charging cable that came with the phone.

Side note, I've started turning off fast charging when i charge overnight. Don't need it to charge quicker at that point and figure it may give the battery some extra life after a while. I usually avoid charging overnight so it doesn't sit at 100% for hours.
Back on topic, I think wireless creates more heat...heat bad...do the math. Plus taking it on/off charger constantly is def no good.

Only wireless charge my s7 edge and doing the same with my note 7.
If the battery get very low and i need to use the phone ill put it on the cable.
But no damage will happen. The phone has built in safety and the charger does also.

tgtoys said:
Side note, I've started turning off fast charging when i charge overnight. Don't need it to charge quicker at that point and figure it may give the battery some extra life after a while. I usually avoid charging overnight so it doesn't sit at 100% for hours.
Back on topic, I think wireless creates more heat...heat bad...do the math. Plus taking it on/off charger constantly is def no good.
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pointless, its all software controlled.

ducksauce88 said:
I'm a complete noob on wireless charging and this is the first time I have bought a device that has it. I bought the plain flat wireless charger for use with this Note 7 to have by my computer desk and now I'm thinking of getting one for where I place my phone every night to charge. My question to anyone who has had extensive use with wireless charging, is it ok to ONLY use wireless charging? Even overnight? Not sure if it matters but I turn my phone off to charge every night.
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Hi. I feel your frustration!
I did a little online research regarding battery life and charging and found a site that has real qualified experts with Ph.D's in this science.
Bottom line is all charging shortens battery life.
It appears to come down to a few rules.
Don't fully charge your battery. IE don't leave it on all night as we do.
Don't let your battery fully drain.
Don't use quick charging.
Don't use wireless charge.
Use the proprietary charger that comes with your mobile. (mine came with a quick charger though?).
Heat and built in obsolescence seem to be the problem. Its very complex and its best you Google this subject yourself as there are so many forum 'experts' one never knows what to believe.
Did you know that fast charging stops at 60% and then goes to trickle? If that's the case why cant we fast charge....its so confusing.
Research this yourself. Its best.
Ryland
NOT a battery expert!

Ryland Johnson said:
It appears to come down to a few rules.
Don't fully charge your battery. IE don't leave it on all night as we do.
Don't let your battery fully drain.
Don't use quick charging.
Don't use wireless charge.
Use the proprietary charger that comes with your mobile. (mine came with a quick charger though?).
Heat and built in obsolescence seem to be the problem. Its very complex and its best you Google this subject yourself as there are so many forum 'experts' one never knows what to believe.
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I am not certain we should worry so much about all this. At the end of the day we have to put a certain level of trust in the manufacturer of the phone, that they have put the effort in to making sure we don't damage or shorten the length of life to the device because of the technology they have introduced.
For the record, I 'slow-wireless' charge my devices overnight and top up on a fast charge cable whenever I need to. I never let it completely discharge and I don't recharge above 80% generally. No noticeable issues over the past 2yrs.
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Thanks for all the reply guys. I wasn't really worried about the it being overnight since I know that these manufacturers let it get to 100% and the let it drain, then charge again so it's never fully saying at 100%. I just didn't know the long term effect of wireless charging. Looks like all charging effects it. Haha. I'll turn off quick charge and see if that helps anything. I work form home so I'm almost always by my charger. I guess i just shouldn't be as worried because no matter what the battery will get worse over time. I bet it's not really hard to pull the back off this phone either to replace it.

i killed tupac said:
pointless, its all software controlled.
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Wanna elaborate on that one? Pretty sure everything I said was correct, but if not please do grace us more with something more than "pointless".

apprentice said:
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I am not certain we should worry so much about all this. At the end of the day we have to put a certain level of trust in the manufacturer of the phone, that they have put the effort in to making sure we don't damage or shorten the length of life to the device because of the technology they have introduced.
For the record, I 'slow-wireless' charge my devices overnight and top up on a fast charge cable whenever I need to. I never let it completely discharge and I don't recharge above 80% generally. No noticeable issues over the past 2yrs.
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Hi, Cant disagree with what you write however......lol. Many years ago a doctor would prescribe medication and said medication came with no manufacturers information just the dosage and time that our doctor prescribed.
These days drug manufacturers have to give highly detailed literature with all medications. Here is my point at last.
If you read the blurb given, for say a pain killer, it may list pain as one of the side effects. I once purchased an over the counter sea sickness remedy for my son and in the blurb it gave NAUSEA as a side effect! Certain antidepressants can cause suicide! Now if we parallel this to company's who 'just' manufacture mobile phones imagine what they know that they DON'T inform us about? Just food for thought. :highfive:
Oh another point...how many owners actually read that massive manufacturers owners manual? Should the owners manual be read no end of situations and misfortunes would and could be understood and avoided.
Ryland

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Wanna elaborate on that one? Pretty sure everything I said was correct, but if not please do grace us more with something more than "pointless".
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sorry. the software and power managment in Android will not allow the battery to destroy itself or even degrade itself. it does not matter anymore how you charge them, for how long, etc. The only thing that can harm it is cheap cables that fail and cross wires externally, which then route voltage into the port.

i killed tupac said:
sorry. the software and power managment in Android will not allow the battery to destroy itself or even degrade itself. it does not matter anymore how you charge them, for how long, etc. The only thing that can harm it is cheap cables that fail and cross wires externally, which then route voltage into the port.
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I know the software will help it last longer and not do immediate damage, but you can most definitely degrade it quicker.