One X is power hungry! - HTC One X

Just thought I'd share a screenshot of a warning message that recently popped up on my One X while playing a game...
The device was plugged into the factory charger at the time, screen was set to lowest brightness, wifi on and a 2g cell connection.
Specs of the factory charger are 5 volts @ 1 amp, this equals 5 watts...the One X was consuming more than 5 watts of energy at that point in time to trigger the warning!!!
I'd never even considered that one day a phone would be capable of using more current than the factory charger can supply... talk about a beast!
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bircoe said:
Just thought I'd share a screenshot of a warning message that recently popped up on my One X while playing a game...
The device was plugged into the factory charger at the time, screen was set to lowest brightness, wifi on and a 2g cell connection.
Specs of the factory charger are 5 volts @ 1 amp, this equals 5 watts...the One X was consuming more than 5 watts of energy at that point in time to trigger the warning!!!
I'd never even considered that one day a phone would be capable of using more current than the factory charger can supply... talk about a beast!
Edit: removed pic and attached instead.
Edit2: Turns out the forum doesn't like file names with a + in them!
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what game is it that you are actually trying to play? I tried leaving youtube and two other games on, with wifi hotspot turned on and then played asphalt adrenaline which I think is graphically intensive and yet I could charge my phone at the same time. Try ARHD, it may be the ROM where the problem lies

bircoe said:
Just thought I'd share a screenshot of a warning message that recently popped up on my One X while playing a game...
The device was plugged into the factory charger at the time, screen was set to lowest brightness, wifi on and a 2g cell connection.
Specs of the factory charger are 5 volts @ 1 amp, this equals 5 watts...the One X was consuming more than 5 watts of energy at that point in time to trigger the warning!!!
I'd never even considered that one day a phone would be capable of using more current than the factory charger can supply... talk about a beast!
Edit: removed pic and attached instead.
Edit2: Turns out the forum doesn't like file names with a + in them!
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haha! hilarious pop up notification though! it should just say " are you serious...? I have 4 1.5 gig cores. "

Happens to my mums sgs2. Happens when you have lots of power hungry apps open
Sent From My HTC sensation (desire with rcmix s )

Haha, brilliant! Thanks for posting. Just shows how powerful this phone is.

shahid317 said:
what game is it that you are actually trying to play? I tried leaving youtube and two other games on, with wifi hotspot turned on and then played asphalt adrenaline which I think is graphically intensive and yet I could charge my phone at the same time. Try ARHD, it may be the ROM where the problem lies
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Game was Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit... I'm not after fixes, I just found it funny and thought others may as well, so I shared.

bircoe said:
Just thought I'd share a screenshot of a warning message that recently popped up on my One X while playing a game...
The device was plugged into the factory charger at the time, screen was set to lowest brightness, wifi on and a 2g cell connection.
Specs of the factory charger are 5 volts @ 1 amp, this equals 5 watts...the One X was consuming more than 5 watts of energy at that point in time to trigger the warning!!!
I'd never even considered that one day a phone would be capable of using more current than the factory charger can supply... talk about a beast!
Edit: removed pic and attached instead.
Edit2: Turns out the forum doesn't like file names with a + in them!
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I got this popup when playing a 10min Flash video in the stock browser when charging!

Typical nVidia!!

Lol. Ok
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk

Happened to me also....when it was very low on battery like 1-2 % and it was connected to my laptop for charging...i was transfering 10gb to my phone while downloading apps on phone also using wifi...

If the phone uses 5watt we are in a problem.

the power usage is high but there is discussion on some dev threads that the power management system is broken in the current release rom

aniketsharma9865 said:
Happened to me also....when it was very low on battery like 1-2 % and it was connected to my laptop for charging...i was transfering 10gb to my phone while downloading apps on phone also using wifi...
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That's not overly surprising... USB 2.0 ports on PC's and Laptops are only specced to deliver 500ma, that's only 2.5 watts of power, the stock charger is 5w.

I used juice defender and the power is better

I was in carphonewarehouse and they said that the one x demo was not powered on because it is not able to draw enough power from the supply.
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Got the same warning when I tried to download a file over WiFi

I used something like http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/travelpower/7657/
to check the one x's power draw.
with the screen on sucks up to 5.5w, screen off is 1.5w-1.7w
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gdelrosario said:
I used something like
to check the one x's power draw.
with the screen on sucks up to 5.5v, screen off is 1.5v-1.7v
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I do hope you mean Watt, not Volt. You also have to take into account the efficiency of the charger. Should be around 90-95% but is significant.

bircoe said:
Just thought I'd share a screenshot of a warning message that recently popped up on my One X while playing a game...
The device was plugged into the factory charger at the time, screen was set to lowest brightness, wifi on and a 2g cell connection.
Specs of the factory charger are 5 volts @ 1 amp, this equals 5 watts...the One X was consuming more than 5 watts of energy at that point in time to trigger the warning!!!
I'd never even considered that one day a phone would be capable of using more current than the factory charger can supply... talk about a beast!
Edit: removed pic and attached instead.
Edit2: Turns out the forum doesn't like file names with a + in them!
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You will never get a full 1amp charging rate though. Realistically, you'll get a maximum of around 750mAh charge rate, and I've seen my HOX consume more than that too ;P
Bring on the 1.5amp chargers! 2amp will probably heat the battery up way too fast~

Related

[Q] Is 6h Charge time normal?

Yeah, like topic.
6h is the charge time for my HOX, my 3gs was so much faster at charging so this just feels a bit retarded.
PoopTossnApe said:
Yeah, like topic.
6h is the charge time for my HOX, my 3gs was so much faster at charging so this just feels a bit retarded.
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Mine went from 10% to 80% in 3 hours. Thats while playing music all the time and doing other stuff, basically never going to sleep, but screen mostly off.
Depends what you do with your phone really... if you use it actively with screen on, then very little juice is left to charge battery.
If it's first time charging then it also takes a bit longer.
mine went from 10% to 100% in 2hrs and a half
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It has now charged for exactly 5 h and is only at 78%
I have had it and used it for a week now, charge it daily.
Don't use it for anything when it is charging, because I want it to charge as fast as possible. The only thing I may do is start it sometime and make a note or something like that.
Guess I will exchange this phone for a new one.
Maybe it's the charger, not the phone? It's might not deliver standard 1 amper. For example PC/Laptop USB ports only supply half of that, so charge time will double.
If you don't have any app/service on the phone that keeps it busy AND the charger is working fine, then such a long time would be unusual.
Charging via what means?
The AC adaptor? i charge from that in a couple of hours
pc-USB? this can take longer since the pc-usb port will push out lower current plus you are more often than not doing other stuff while using the usb for data as well
schriss said:
Maybe it's the charger, not the phone? It's might not deliver standard 1 amper. For example PC/Laptop USB ports only supply half of that, so charge time will double.
If you don't have any app/service on the phone that keeps it busy AND the charger is working fine, then such a long time would be unusual.
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eeyrjmr said:
Charging via what means?
The AC adaptor? i charge from that in a couple of hours
pc-USB? this can take longer since the pc-usb port will push out lower current plus you are more often than not doing other stuff while using the usb for data as well
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I made sure to charge it in the wall, and not in a computer or anything other like that. Now that I think about it I have bin using a wallcharger/adapter from apple, that is made for the iphone (could also be from an Ipad, nut sure) but it says that the output is the same as on the HTC charger.
The only thing that has been running o the phone is wifi hotspot to my computer, could this bring it down?
Yes, WiFi on and actively used can slow charging down. Especially if you have enabled advanced wifi option for more performance.
For a piece of mind, do a test next time, disable WiFi and let the phone go to sleep as normal and see how quickly it charges then.
Any charger should work as long as it outputs 5V at more or less 1 amp
PoopTossnApe said:
I made sure to charge it in the wall, and not in a computer or anything other like that. Now that I think about it I have bin using a wallcharger/adapter from apple, that is made for the iphone (could also be from an Ipad, nut sure) but it says that the output is the same as on the HTC charger.
The only thing that has been running o the phone is wifi hotspot to my computer, could this bring it down?
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You should at least try to charge it with the one x charger before assuming it's the phones fault.
PoopTossnApe said:
I made sure to charge it in the wall, and not in a computer or anything other like that. Now that I think about it I have bin using a wallcharger/adapter from apple, that is made for the iphone (could also be from an Ipad, nut sure) but it says that the output is the same as on the HTC charger.
The only thing that has been running o the phone is wifi hotspot to my computer, could this bring it down?
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An iPad wall adapter doesn't charge my galaxy nexus or i9100 either. Use a different adapter.
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wardh said:
You should at least try to charge it with the one x charger before assuming it's the phones fault.
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Yes I agree, but did not think about this before, but charging it again now
So I think it did the trick to turn of wifi hotspot, now it looks like it wil charge in 2.5-3.5 h.

Htc One X -battery life

hello everyone, i am new to this community, sorry for my bad english, i would need some help. i have a htc one x for several weeks now, and i have a hudge problem with the battery life on this device, im a really hudge fan of htc, but im dissapointed, so for example, i have 9/10 lines of battery life in my settings menu, i plug it in , and start playing dead space, after 40 mins of playing the battery actually dropped by 2 lines , and i had left 7/10 lines of battery. how is that even possible??! all the phones i had, laptops, etc that require a battery worked in the folowing order: if you plug it in and took the battery out, it still worked, so if you had the battery in, it both keept alive the phone/laptop/every device on the world, while charging the battery, so if you use it, it wont loose power, but gained it. i wached a lot of videos and posts of people explaning hot to get more guice out of htx one x , and some wore like, well , dont use it too much, or do ont turn on your phone to see the clock cause it will save some battery..... ?!?! well i dodn't pay a ton of money to have a phone in my pocket and not be able to see what the time is, or play something/ lisen to music , without actually noticing that in 2-3 hours i wont be able to make a call, yes its a strong phone, and verry good one, by design, by hardware, and software, but the sad thing is the battery, does anyone have a mirracoulous tip for me? and perhaps others as well... (oh and i charged it as ppl from htc told me, first three times with the battery empty for 8 hrs..)
the battery will run out whilst charging, under heavy usage, because the phone is using more power than the charger can provide.
laptop chargers can handle this, simply because the charger provides more power to it. (and the fact laptop batteries tend to be several times the size of the hox)
you should only find that whilst using a battery/cpu intensive task such as navigation (it uses GPS, data sometimes, and the screen is on) that the charger won't be enough, but for most other things, like general web browsing etc, the charger will do it quickly enough
the screen is what takes basically all of the battery, so you can reduce that by making the screen brightness a bit less bright..
the battery life when the screen is off is incredible. WAY better than any other phone i've had. when the screen is off, the phone uses about 1% battery every 2 hours or so. and that was with wifi etc connected and autosync still switched on.
whether the phone will last you all day or not, depends on your usage. if it doesn't, then either make the brightness even lower, or you can purchase a portable charger. or a battery case.
there's no point saying well other phones have better battery life like an iphone. lets be realistic, the iphone DOES NOT have better battery life. it may have had decent standby battery life, but so does tegra 3, probably better than iphone now. when you actually use an iphone, or any other smartphone for that fact, the battery disappears just as quickly as this one does.
Tegra 3 standby is awesome. Just tried an experiment. Please note that this is with 3g or WiFi on all this time and with auto sync.
Again this is just to demonstrate standby time.
For the op, are you sure you don't have a rogue app? Also are you using an HTC charger?
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skywalker1970 said:
Tegra 3 standby is awesome. Just tried an experiment. Please note that this is with 3g or WiFi on all this time and with auto sync.
Again this is just to demonstrate standby time.
For the op, are you sure you don't have a rogue app? Also are you using an HTC charger?
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i know stand by is awseome, and i am using the original out of the box charger and cable, but i might go ahead since i know a thing or two about electronics and modify the charger at 2 amps vs 1 amp currently.. this will give me faster charging, but im still researching, cuz i have second toughts
p.s. do you have a costum rom? it doesent look like a prtscreen from htc one x
nutzaalex said:
i know stand by is awseome, and i am using the original out of the box charger and cable, but i might go ahead since i know a thing or two about electronics and modify the charger at 2 amps vs 1 amp currently.. this will give me faster charging, but im still researching, cuz i have second toughts
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Unlikely. Unless the phone knows it can draw 2 amps, it has to assume a 1A capable charger (designated by connecting the data pins together).
BenPope said:
Unlikely. Unless the phone knows it can draw 2 amps, it has to assume a 1A capable charger (designated by connecting the data pins together).
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dude calm down ) lol im a student at mechatronics and robotics, i make robots, and work with voltages and intensity, yeah, normally i don't tweak this kind of things, but a battery does not cach on fire or explode, ony batteries from cars and up, not small ones the worst that could happend is it will heat up, and if let alone, will pour battery acid, wich is not dangerous like car acid , cuz is in a verry small amount and it just needs not to be handled by unprotected hand.
p.s. since im new, cant post alot.....
One X can have impressive battery usage. Here is my with 11 hours screen on time!!! Not many devices with battery this small can manage this.
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bubigrega said:
One X can have impressive battery usage. Here is my with 11 hours screen on time!!! Not many devices with battery this small can manage this.
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ok, not doubting you, i know it can do this, but let me ask you and be honest, how much did you use the phone, in this 11 h, what did you do?
nutzaalex said:
ok, not doughting you, i know it ca do this, but let me ask you and be honest, how much did you use the phone, in this 11 howrs, what did you do?
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I used it all 11 hours. Mostly reading second book of Game of Thrones in Kindle app. Checked some net sites, xda forum app, some blogs. Few calls and texts. All the time on wifi. Was sick in bed. Auto brightness, but as my eyes didn't liked strong sun is can say that it was quite dim inside.
But it probably depends on usage. Yesterday I was reading on the beach and I had 4 hours screen on time. Probably brightness all the way up as it was quite hot sunny day.
On normal day I get 4-5 hours screen on time.
Full stock One X.
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nutzaalex said:
batteries nowadays can resist pretty much, and unlike a laptop battery that has a chip in it and it records every charge, and then after x charges it suddeny stops working correctely this is cuz of the company chip they insertet to make is useless after x charges, a phone battery is just a normal one, this is tested, i opened a laptop battery and took the chip out, and via com port on pc, i was able to retrive the data storred by the company that produced it, but was not able to reset it, (comsporacy) lol . so i will buy a htc battery, not necesarry one x's and i will test it my charging it a couple o times bowth with the amp maxed, from 1 to 2 (1,1..1,2 etc) and voltage from 5 to 10 V, maby ill get a result, that is a little better than the technique i saw a couple pages away about charging your phone, then powerring it off, charging it again, then pwr on charging it again etc, forgot the method name, but in my opinion bubjecting a rechargable battery to so manny fluctuations of current in so little time does not sound good, my idea of amping the charger or the voltage by just a little sounds a little better in my opinion
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You scare the **** out of me. Please don't do this indoors or near any other living creature. You know nothing about charging batteries and are going set your lithium ion battery on fire.
Go check out http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries before you hurt yourself.
nutzaalex said:
dude calm down ) lol im a student at mechatronics and robotics, i make robots, and work with voltages and intensity, yeah, normally i don't tweak this kind of things, but a battery does not cach on fire or explode, ony batteries from cars and up, not small ones the worst that could happend is it will heat up, and if let alone, will pour battery acid, wich is not dangerous like car acid , cuz is in a verry small amount and it just needs not to be handled by unprotected hand.
p.s. since im new, cant post alot.....
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you have a lot to learn then.. Batteries can explode, and they do: here's a video of some guys iphone setting on fire in his back pocket, turned out to be the battery that caused it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIRXDeEzlcw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
That isn't my pure reasoning behind my thoughts anyways, whatever experiments you do with higher amp chargers won't do anything, because the phone won't accept more charge than the circuitry allows. Which happens to be a safe amount for the battery. This is so the battery doesn't get damaged, and in some circumstances, set on fire or explode.
If you take the battery out and start prodding things at it and take it over its limits, be prepared for fire or explosion. Like Ben said, put yourself and only yourself at risk if you choose to do it.. And be wise and have a fire extinguisher ready.
BenPope said:
You scare the **** out of me. Please don't do this indoors or near any other living creature. You know nothing about charging batteries and are going set your lithium ion battery on fire.
Go check out http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries before you hurt yourself.
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I'm with you Ben....
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Battery life on ViperX 2.6.0
nutzaalex said:
hello everyone, i am new to this community, sorry for my bad english, i would need some help. i have a htc one x for several weeks now, and i have a hudge problem with the battery life on this device, im a really hudge fan of htc, but im dissapointed, so for example, i have 9/10 lines of battery life in my settings menu, i plug it in , and start playing dead space, after 40 mins of playing the battery actually dropped by 2 lines , and i had left 7/10 lines of battery. how is that even possible??! all the phones i had, laptops, etc that require a battery worked in the folowing order: if you plug it in and took the battery out, it still worked, so if you had the battery in, it both keept alive the phone/laptop/every device on the world, while charging the battery, so if you use it, it wont loose power, but gained it. i wached a lot of videos and posts of people explaning hot to get more guice out of htx one x , and some wore like, well , dont use it too much, or do ont turn on your phone to see the clock cause it will save some battery..... ?!?! well i dodn't pay a ton of money to have a phone in my pocket and not be able to see what the time is, or play something/ lisen to music , without actually noticing that in 2-3 hours i wont be able to make a call, yes its a strong phone, and verry good one, by design, by hardware, and software, but the sad thing is the battery, does anyone have a mirracoulous tip for me? and perhaps others as well... (oh and i charged it as ppl from htc told me, first three times with the battery empty for 8 hrs..)
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I've been having the same issue as well. The stock ROM on HTC one X drains the battery rapidly. For me, In normal day which includes listening to music, playing games, browsing and making calls, my battery would last maximum up to 20 hours; meaning that every night when I go to bed I had to charge it for the next day.
This problem was battling me a lot. I learned that the stock ROM is taking advantage of all (4) CPU's and memory even while in idle. The whole battery consumption relies on the CPU usage and Memory management.
I moved to a custom ROM called ViperX 2.6.0. I'm very satisfied with the result. It seams that they've managed the CPU and memory in a very good and neat way. The ROM has a lot of tweaks.By default, when installing the fresh ROM and wiping the battery stat, the battery would last one and half a day. By doing a number of simple tweaks such as disabling the animations on transitions, disable fast dormancy and disable smart sync you can have the battery up to two days.
Check the attachment, it's a screen shot of my battery usage.
Hope this helps.
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One X can have impressive battery usage. Here is my with 11 hours screen on time!!! Not many devices with battery this small can manage this.
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How the hell are you getting this much screen time ?!
I dim the screen to the lowest brightness and disable
sync and sometimes in flight mode, and I can hardly get
3h of screen time! I mostly read on it, so it shouldn't
be battery intensive.
oh, and If I use it outside it lasts even less 2-2.5h.
What's your secret?
Oh and I use the latest CM10, and downclock my
cpu to 800-1000mhz
Doorman404 said:
How the hell are you getting this much screen time ?!
I dim the screen to the lowest brightness and disable
sync and sometimes in flight mode, and I can hardly get
3h of screen time! I mostly read on it, so it shouldn't
be battery intensive.
oh, and If I use it outside it lasts even less 2-2.5h.
What's your secret?
Oh and I use the latest CM10, and downclock my
cpu to 800-1000mhz
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Then your phone is knackered.
I can get 4+hrs screen on time with auto brightness, auto sync, stock cpu levels with wifi on.
That's no secret, that's just what it does.
As for 'just reading' - you can easily get over 13hrs screen on time with lowest brightness & flight mode - I've tested it myself on the Kindle app.
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Doorman404 said:
How the hell are you getting this much screen time ?!
I dim the screen to the lowest brightness and disable
sync and sometimes in flight mode, and I can hardly get
3h of screen time! I mostly read on it, so it shouldn't
be battery intensive.
oh, and If I use it outside it lasts even less 2-2.5h.
What's your secret?
Oh and I use the latest CM10, and downclock my
cpu to 800-1000mhz
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AOSP roms get much less battery life than Sense roms, 3hrs screen on time is about average.
I'm currently running CM10 with Neo kernel 7.2 @ 1.3GHz and getting almost 4hrs screen on time. With Faux kernel it was usually around 3hrs.
Chrisjcks, what do u mean by "your phone is knackered"?!
Its a new phone! I just got it 2 weeks ago.
Michealtbh, it may be somthing with the APOP rom, but I really
hate using sense ... I want to try this Neo Karnel first,
Can I just flash it on my cm10? (without wipe)
Where can I get it?
How do I know which kernel is im my current rom?
Doorman404 said:
Chrisjcks, what do u mean by "your phone is knackered"?!
Its a new phone! I just got it 2 weeks ago.
Michealtbh, it may be somthing with the APOP rom, but I really
hate using sense ... I want to try this Neo Karnel first,
Can I just flash it on my cm10? (without wipe)
Where can I get it?
How do I know which kernel is im my current rom?
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Your phone is fine.
You can find it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1873615
You have to flash the boot.img through fastboot then the modules in recovery. You're probably using CM10 kernel atm
Doorman404 said:
Chrisjcks, what do u mean by "your phone is knackered"?!
Its a new phone! I just got it 2 weeks ago.
Michealtbh, it may be somthing with the APOP rom, but I really
hate using sense ... I want to try this Neo Karnel first,
Can I just flash it on my cm10? (without wipe)
Where can I get it?
How do I know which kernel is im my current rom?
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Ok, but don't moan of battery if you are running a beta (alpha) custom rom.
The HTC ONE X battery is fine, especially after the sense 4.1/4.0.4 upgrade from 2.17
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Michealtbh, Thanks!
I'll try that soon. (it's stable, right?)
I'm now testing the new Nightly.. it's real good and battery life,
seems promising, looks like I'll get 3.5-4h of screen time there
(No sync with low brightness though)
chrisjcks, I'm not using alpha roms, just the stable ones.
and this DOES feel very bad battery life to me, I come to the hox
from Motorola milestone, and there I could easily get 7-8 hours
of screen time with wifi. (and it has smaller battery and 40% overclocked!!)
How much do you get on the new stock?
When I was on stock i remember it ran out after half a day,
only using it for music and taking some videos.
Battery life varies a lot. On stock in London I get a full day screen time of around 2-3 hours with 3G on all the time. Which for me is fine.
Last weekend I was in Portsmouth and the signal was very patchy and my phone died within 10 hours. Hardly any screen on time.
So it does really depend and will vary for user to user depending on your signal and how the phone is set up.
Mine is usually on auto brightness, and auto syncing on.
Today I've been at home as I've got a damn cold but my screen on time is over 4 hours in good signal and wifi. Same setup. So you can gather from this that signal, data used, etc can affect battery life in many ways.
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Charger current not enough

Hi all. Hopefully you can help me.
I've had my HOX for about a year. Recently I bought an iBolt car dock and a car charger. The car charger provides both 1 amp and 2 amp outputs.
A couple of days ago, I had the phone in the dock with maps open using GPS and Bluetooth connected. A notification came up that there was not enough current for the phone to charge. I dismissed the message. After about 2 or 3 hours the phone switched off due to low battery.
I always leave WiFi on.
What current should the phone need to charge with everything on? I don't think you should have to turn anything off when plugged in.
Also, the current draw notification has not reappeared since. I think the option to not show it again was checked. How do I get this back?
InteraX said:
Hi all. Hopefully you can help me.
I've had my HOX for about a year. Recently I bought an iBolt car dock and a car charger. The car charger provides both 1 amp and 2 amp outputs.
A couple of days ago, I had the phone in the dock with maps open using GPS and Bluetooth connected. A notification came up that there was not enough current for the phone to charge. I dismissed the message. After about 2 or 3 hours the phone switched off due to low battery.
I always leave WiFi on.
What current should the phone need to charge with everything on? I don't think you should have to turn anything off when plugged in.
Also, the current draw notification has not reappeared since. I think the option to not show it again was checked. How do I get this back?
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Firstly, regardless of the charger output, the charging circuit in the HOX will accept a maximum of 1Ah. Under intensive use I have recorded power usage as high as 1.6Ah, give or take a bit. This is screen on and running apps like Maps. Obviously with a 1.8Ah battery capacity this can potentially drain all charge in a tad over one hour.
Also obviously, a 1.6Ah draw exceeds the 1Ah the charging circuit will accept. This will slow down the discharge rate but is not enough to power the phone AND charge.
Basically, the charging ability of the HOX is NOT enough to compensate for it's power draw with so much running simultaneously...Screen, Wi-Fi, GPS, BT, Maps being a CPU and bandwidth hog probably had all 4 CPU cores powered as well as constant radio data usage.
Thanks for that. Sound like poor design. =-O
Do you know how to get the alert to display again. It's useful to know when this situation arises. At least with the prompt I can start disabling things.
The new thing the other day was Bluetooth. Maybe I should try turning off WiFi.
How did you get the power draw figures?
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InteraX said:
Thanks for that. Sound like poor design. =-O
Do you know how to get the alert to display again. It's useful to know when this situation arises. At least with the prompt I can start disabling things.
The new thing the other day was Bluetooth. Maybe I should try turning off WiFi.
How did you get the power draw figures?
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I use Battery Monitor Widget to track usage, temp and time remaining.
As for the notification...sorry I don't know.
You can get around it by disabling 2 cores if you are rooted.
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[Q] Battery takes more than 6 hours to charge???

I have bought a brand new p-601, since the first installation it takes more than 6 hours in battery charging.
Is it normal or there is something wrong with the battery/tablet.
Is it possible reset the binary counter to 0, cause I have rooted it twice?
Best Regards
skyhigh73 said:
I have bought a brand new p-601, since the first installation it takes more than 6 hours in battery charging.
Is it normal or there is something wrong with the battery/tablet.
Is it possible reset the binary counter to 0, cause I have rooted it twice?
Best Regards
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Yes its normal, all Exynos Note 10.1 2014 take a long time to charge, My P600 takes 5 hours however others have said it takes them 6-8hours to fully charge.
Same here
Think it's because of USB 2.0
Note 3 with USB 3.0 in roughly 2 hours
Someone could calculate the theoretical time by comparing how much power USB 2.0 can put through vs USB 3.0. Should be roughly 2 times more.
So maybe there will come a Note 10.1 Pro with USB 3.0 and NFC
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Think it's because of USB 2.0
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It's not USB 3.0. Only the Tab/Pro 12.2's have USB 3.0 anyway. Here's how Samsung implements USB 3.0; at least on the N3.
The Galaxy Note 3 ships with USB 3.0, unfortunately at least in its current state it doesn't seem to get any benefit from the interface. Although the internal eMMC is capable of being read from at ~100MB/s, sustained transfers from the device over adb averaged around 30MB/s regardless of whether or not I connected the Note 3 to a USB 2.0 or 3.0 host.
Update: USB 3.0 does work on the Note 3, but only when connected to a Windows PC with USB 3.0. Doing so brings up a new option in the "USB Computer Connection" picker with USB 3.0 as an option. Ticking this alerts you that using USB 3.0 might interfere with calls and data, but then switches over. Connection transfer speed is indeed faster in this mode as well, like you'd expect. It only appears on Windows as well, my earlier attempts were on OS X where this popup option never appears.
Charging is an interesting story on the Note 3, but primarily because of what doesn’t change. The Note 3 continues to use Samsung’s tablet charging specification and charger, which has 2 amps of maximum output. The Note 3 draws 2 amps over a considerable amount of the charging curve, like other Samsung devices (in the linear part of the charge curve). USB 3.0 doesn’t change things up here quite yet with the new supported charge voltages that are coming eventually with the power delivery specification.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7376/samsung-galaxy-note-3-review/3​
It's because of a Qualcomm dedicated charging circuit that's (optionally) part of S-800...
http://www.qualcomm.com/chipsets/quick-charge
Flyer.michael;4963 765 said:
Same here
Think it's because of USB 2.0
Note 3 with USB 3.0 in roughly 2 hours
Someone could calculate the theoretical time by comparing how much power USB 2.0 can put through vs USB 3.0. Should be roughly 2 times more.
So maybe there will come a Note 10.1 Pro with USB 3.0 and NFC
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The p600 has a battery capacity that is 2.56 times bigger than the note 3 (3,200 vs. 8,220mAh) so its not a fair comparison.
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My P605 My P600 takes 4 hours.. don't know about the exynos version.
It is obviously slower than any tablet or phone. Very boring and annoying. The question is how to differentiate between motherboard failure and normal slow battery charging?
Try a different cable
I was having this problem a few days back but found a hint on one of the threads I found on the internet. I was using a USB extension cable with the Samsung charger. It was taking 1 hr just to charge 1%. Then I tried not using the extension cable. It's now charging 10-15% every hour. It's likely the calbe you're using is the problem. If it's not the original cable that came with the tablet, try that cable.
I just got mine for xxxmas, and it takes about 6 hours, give or take, to go from ≈5-10% to full charge, maybe less when I don't use it; and I guess I get about the same life most have mentioned (is there a way to track charge/discharge times?).
That said, I just plugged in at 15%, and I just crossed 25% in about 20-25 minutes. I use the stock charger and cable plugged into an extension cord as thick as my arm... okay, my forefinger--hey, I like having a good extension cord that can carry the juice, the precious juice!
sflxn said:
I was having this problem a few days back but found a hint on one of the threads I found on the internet. I was using a USB extension cable with the Samsung charger. It was taking 1 hr just to charge 1%. Then I tried not using the extension cable. It's now charging 10-15% every hour. It's likely the calbe you're using is the problem. If it's not the original cable that came with the tablet, try that cable.
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Thanks for your feed back. But I have tried this solution before and changed the cable with a good one.
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Thanks for your feed back. But I have tried this solution before and changed the cable with a good one.
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P605 here, and yes, it's normal, . It takes even longer if you're using it while charging. My philosophy is: "I sleep, he charges". Not perfect though, due to the amount of time I sleep, not much.
So my P600 Note 10.1 normally takes 5 hours to charge from 5% to 100% and the last 20% usually trickles and takes 2 hours. I remember someone on xda mentioning to unplug and then plug back when it hits 80%, so that's what I did yesterday and it took a total of 4hrs10mins from 5% to 100%. No idea how it made it charge faster but hey it worked.
P.s I use stock cable and plug.
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Mine Note SM-P605 takes 5 Hours to charge and doesnt matter if have it turning off charging. Shouldnt it suppose to be around 3 hours charging time with qualcomms quickcharge 2.0?
0-100% 5-6H
10-100% 5H
How do peoples manage to get around 3H charing time with LTE version?
Im using battery monitor widget to monitor the charging, from start its around 1600mah and from 80-90% it start to drop to 1500mah-1000mah. From 90-100% it tickles down with 100mah for each 1% charge.
Is this normal? Im using Samsungs charger that comes with the box with EU adapter plug, since its HK version I got and if it does matter.
@dt33 i guess the EU adapter plug is the cause of slow charging. P605 should not be taking 5hours.
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Geordie Affy said:
@dt33 i guess the EU adapter plug is the cause of slow charging. P605 should not be taking 5hours.
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Id doubt that EU adapter is causing it and also tried with 3 different adapter. Since they just make HK 3 stick plug to EU 2 plug and doesnt convert electricity.
If any have SM-P605 version and can confirm with battery monitor widget.With history stats, how much mA does it charge bewteen 0-100% and is it same as mine does?
With sceen of:
0-80% - 1600-1700mA
80-90% - 1500-1000mA
90-100% - 900-100mA for each 1% it reduce with 100mA.
Does Qualcomm tickels down charging from 80-100% as Exynos version does?
It isn't the charger or the cable, it's something to do with the battery. I've had two different units in the past week or so that have taken over 7 hours and sometimes the charging stops before it is full and the discharge varies so much from 3 hours to 10 hours with the same things open and this happens on different chargers. Samsung agreed that both units were faulty, so enough is enough, I'm going to try something else.
After reading here and elsewhere about the GN 2014 charging time, I checked mine this morning. I wanted to do that before my 15 day return is up at Bestbuy. Yesterday, I ran the GN 2014 until it came with a screen and said to connect to charger. I think it was about 3% left.. This morning I put it on the charger at 7am.. at about 11, it was almost full, I unplugged it, and then plugged it back up again, and at 12 noon it reported 100%..
I have read that at about 80% on charging, it is real slow, and to un plug and re plug at that time helps..Anyway, 5 hours to 100% is normal, so I am okay.
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Id doubt that EU adapter is causing it and also tried with 3 different adapter. Since they just make HK 3 stick plug to EU 2 plug and doesnt convert electricity.
If any have SM-P605 version and can confirm with battery monitor widget.With history stats, how much mA does it charge bewteen 0-100% and is it same as mine does?
With sceen of:
0-80% - 1600-1700mA
80-90% - 1500-1000mA
90-100% - 900-100mA for each 1% it reduce with 100mA.
Does Qualcomm tickels down charging from 80-100% as Exynos version does?
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what you need to test?
current i got HK version P605,
both au note2 charger and hk p605 charger
lopium said:
P605 here, and yes, it's normal, . It takes even longer if you're using it while charging. My philosophy is: "I sleep, he charges". Not perfect though, due to the amount of time I sleep, not much.
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Very nice tip. I appreciate your tip: "I sleep, he charges".
Thanks for that.
ilovemeow said:
what you need to test?
current i got HK version P605,
both au note2 charger and hk p605 charger
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Thanks for u offering, but it doesnt matter now and Im tired of Samsung. Too many buggs and none fixes and theirs customers support is none existens.
Now I also got black screen, waking it up from sleep, touch stopped responding or superlag (whatever its), cant swipe between home screens bla bla and couldnt either click on oki to reboot the device. A long press on power button for reboot is only choice.
Also suddenly battery drain from 100% - 97% just in 3 min for scrolling around home screen, appdrawer, open apps.
This tab just have too many issues and not worth mine time or buy.
Today at work, mine friend told me that his Note 8 LTE that he bought for 2 months ago, have also screen shaking problem as its with Note 2014.WTF is this?
Waiting for 4.4 and see if it resolves any of the problems. Or else, I just sell this **** and forget about Samsung.

Question Thermal throttling

After 2 days of trial and error, it's thermal throttling due to battery temp.
It hits 96.20f on the battery and goes from 2.8mah at 15w to 8-900mah at 6w
Full charge speed comes back as soon as it's under 94f
This is something I never dealt with with my OnePlus phones....
6000mah always, no issues 40 minutes to full..
With my testing, I've found that,
While charging
Power saving mode with CPU throttle, screen rate throttle, Bluetooth off doesn't help keep it from throttling...
Charging, I can play a YouTube video slid to the side off the screen and browse the internet and after a good 10 minutes or so it's bouncing in and out of fast charging
Playing a game while charging get me around 400mah charging lol
Takes 10 minutes for a single percent when gaming when it gets up in temps
I'm a business owner and a heavy user when I'm using it.
I atleast now understand how it works and what the limits are.
Brightness is half way and on auto.
I would be fine with it getting a bit warmer to keep the fast charging going for sure...
Now I set it in front of the AC if I need some quick charging lol
Slight edit.. it even throttles charging when closed and not being used...
You telling me this phone I paid almost 2 grand for throttles like a baby after a little light use? I noticed today that Enhanced processing has been removed and the option to change the screens resolution has also been removed. I swear my note 20 ultra still kicks this phones butt
It's give or take, it doesn't like charging,
I was playing genshin impact when it got warm and dead lol, but when charging it's straddling the throttle on and off if your using it for sure, download battery charging monitor pro and watch for yourself
She games well I love it, I'm sure I'll be able to manage it, but just coming from a one plus it's mehh
Samsung has limited the charging speed while its in use since their old models blasted some time ago left and right. That is the reason samsung no longer gives faster charging speeds like other brands. We are stuck with 25w charging plus slow charging while using the mobile
It only hits full speed when the screen is off
eswar539 said:
Samsung has limited the charging speed shile its in use since their old models blasted some time ago left and right. That is the reason samsung no longer gives faster charging speeds like other brands. We are stuck with 25w charging plus slow charging while using the mobile
It only hits full speed when the screen is off
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Incorrect, I can take a screen recording. If the batter stays below 96f it won't throttle.
Like I said my fix is to put the phone in front of my ac for a minute flat for like 15 minutes of play while charging at full speed.
It has nothing to do with the screen being awake.. it's all on the battery temp.
I tested it by putting my phone in front of the AC when warmed up and as soon as it drops below 94 it's back to full speed.
Yes it's Samsung, but they will learn someday when other phone companies start pushing into the US like OnePlus has
Smittyzz said:
Incorrect, I can take a screen recording. If the batter stays below 96f it won't throttle.
Like I said my fix is to put the phone in front of my ac for a minute flat for like 15 minutes of play while charging at full speed.
It has nothing to do with the screen being awake.. it's all on the battery temp.
I tested it by putting my phone in front of the AC when warmed up and as soon as it drops below 94 it's back to full speed.
Yes it's Samsung, but they will learn someday when other phone companies start pushing into the US like OnePlus has
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pushing a battery thats charging full power is asking for a fire to happen. This is EXACTLY why Samsung and other manufacturers put these safety measures into play. Users think they know better when they don't and create safety hazards. Like dude please learn basics about batteries before you start a fire.
xlylegaman said:
pushing a battery thats charging full power is asking for a fire to happen. This is EXACTLY why Samsung and other manufacturers put these safety measures into play. Users think they know better when they don't and create safety hazards. Like dude please learn basics about batteries before you start a fire.
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For starters, I came from a one plus with 2x the charging speeds. What makes them so special to have it down?
And on top of that, I deal with lithium polymer batteries on a daily basis. Owning rc cars I've handled 100s of those "house burning down" batteries.
The phone doesn't even get warm.
I'm sorry your just used to following Samsung and what they say is the fastest standard for something lol
They gotta lack somewhere
I understood those limitations are for battery life. But you can be unhappy about it.
That's understandable and personally I don't care if the charging speed is not blazingly fast.
I remember my Note 7 well.

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