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Why does One X stutter?

Hi
In every list that one should drag to scroll down there's always a stutter at first before the list starts to move. How can it be that a device with 4 or 5 cors could behave like this? Just curious
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ToddeSwe said:
Hi
In every list that one should drag to scroll down there's always a stutter at first before the list starts to move. How can it be that a device with 4 or 5 cors could behave like this? Just curious
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It might be due to the ramping up of the cpu's, and the time before it ramps up. These values can be customized*. Also remember that sense is not the most ui friendly rom(skin). If you are rooted, and tried any of the jb roms, you would know what I'm talking about.
*Requires root.

timlambo said:
It might be due to the ramping up of the cpu's, and the time before it ramps up. These values can be customized*. Also remember that sense is not the most ui friendly rom(skin). If you are rooted, and tried any of the jb roms, you would know what I'm talking about.
*Requires root.
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Not rooted on this device because I've had the WiFi problem on 8 devices. Don't dare to void my warranty or risk having to pay for the repair.
Are you saying that jb doesn't have this fenomen? If so I'm really looking forward to it even more.
I'm waiting for s-off then I dare to root.
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ToddeSwe said:
Not rooted on this device because I've had the WiFi problem on 8 devices. Don't dare to void my warranty or risk having to pay for the repair.
Are you saying that jb doesn't have this fenomen? If so I'm really looking forward to it even more.
I'm waiting for s-off then I dare to root.
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No, it doesn't, and it's so smooth it's actually scary. At least the aosp builds don't have lag. Whether the Htc version will be the same, remains to be seen.
I have to admit the feeling can't be described. Bad to hear about that 8 devices which all had wifi problems.

ToddeSwe said:
Hi
In every list that one should drag to scroll down there's always a stutter at first before the list starts to move. How can it be that a device with 4 or 5 cors could behave like this? Just curious
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Do you have some specific examples? In pulling down menus from Settings and scrolling through them mine doesn't stutter. I think a lot of individual performance issues are based on what apps (and their quality), monitors, analyzers, and tweakers you have running and/or in the background. Tasker is a good example because it's always monitoring the phone for movement or an action even if it's not doing anything. Here's an interesting article about how Android paints the screen. Even eight cores wouldn't make a difference. Maybe JB will change things. FWIW, there are tons of pages of discussions about stuttering issues in the SGS3 forum too. The thing both phones have in common are overlays and tons of OEM apps running in the background.
Android Graphics
https://plus.google.com/10505198573...8x93s#105051985738280261832/posts/2FXDCz8x93s
SGS3 Stuttering
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1757344

Man! i honestly thought htc wasn't doing bad on this quad-core phone......... Until i tried the unfinished jelly bean roms. After flashing back to even the test rom, i was really shocked. This is really incredible for a quad core. It stutters so much it's crazy. Even the app drawer lags. I just charged my phone to flash a jelly bean room. HECK, it's not just jelly bean, i was doing fine on ICS CM9 ROM. Is it sense?
As for the wifi problem, that just adds more fuel to the fire for people who buy an htc device for the first time, my first experience with HTC is really not as nice as i would have hoped it would be. Sadly i realized my WIFI problem after rooting. I didn't make a nandroid back up and without an RUU i can't see myself getting back to stock unless someone who is also on the same provider as i am is willing share their nandroid back up with me so i can send it in for repair - not blaming htc on this one...just HOPE I'M NOT CHARGED FOR H/W FAULT that comes from them.
I can wait at the moment to get my wifi repaired.Can't say i am satisfied with the device. One thing that's for certain is it's not the hardware in the phone that's the issue. I can only hope HTC does the right thing when it comes to this device.
HTC Sense is beautiful compared to Jelly bean , that just visually. However the lag that comes with it outweighs the beauty. That's my take on all of this so far. Hope they do the right thing.

BarryH_GEG said:
Do you have some specific examples? In pulling down menus from Settings and scrolling through them mine doesn't stutter. I think a lot of individual performance issues are based on what apps (and their quality), monitors, analyzers, and tweakers you have running and/or in the background. Tasker is a good example because it's always monitoring the phone for movement or an action even if it's not doing anything. Here's an interesting article about how Android paints the screen. Even eight cores wouldn't make a difference. Maybe JB will change things. FWIW, there are tons of pages of discussions about stuttering issues in the SGS3 forum too. The thing both phones have in common are overlays and tons of OEM apps running in the background.
Android Graphics
https://plus.google.com/10505198573...8x93s#105051985738280261832/posts/2FXDCz8x93s
SGS3 Stuttering
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1757344
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Using the stock browser go to the youtube desktop site and scroll around, pinch zoom
If you have a lot of music open the music app go to song view and scroll
use the tapatalk xda app
let the device sleep for a while then immediately open the app draw and scroll around
scroll in the gmail app
Those are some examples of the stutters that annoy me with htc roms, it may be a little nit picky but a quad core device should be able to do all the things listed above with ease.

shadehh said:
Man! i honestly thought htc wasn't doing bad on this quad-core phone......... Until i tried the unfinished jelly bean roms.
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Were you using the stock ROM and JB the same way? My One X flies after a hard reset but once I load my 97 apps and have my ten syncs running in the background it's noticably slower (but still five times faster than the i9100 it replaced). I got to try out a (S4) SGS3 for a few days. It wasn't any faster than my One X with the same apps and syncs running and I noticed the launcher issue talked about in the thread I posted above. The browser's faster because it's a Samsung strength and HTC weakness. A car accelerates differently with one passenger than it does with five while also towing a trailer.
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JJbdoggg said:
Using the stock browser go to the youtube desktop site and scroll around, pinch zoom
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I don't even have to try this one. HTC's known for their pretty average stock browsers. I keep using it because I use the "read" button a lot. Samsung ditched reflow in the SGS3 to ensure a smoother browsing experience. Users aren't too happy.
If you have a lot of music open the music app go to song view and scroll
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With a song playing via BT, I scrolled through songs and it didn't stuttter. I have about 1K songs stored on my phone.
use the tapatalk xda app
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Don't use it.
let the device sleep for a while then immediately open the app draw and scroll around
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Turned it on, unlocked it, went right to the app drawer and started scrolling. I noticed some drag in the transition from one page to another that went away the more I kept scrolling.
scroll in the gmail app
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I get Gmail through the stock app.

Can be either the lack of preparation (has to dump whatever it was going to render and render a new one), which triple buffering solves, or garbage collection being done, which is most commonly manifest as random FPS drops while scrolling through a long list. The first will be fixed in 4.1, the second requires disabling the Dalvik scroll cache.

Slower After Sense 4.1

Hey guys,
Anyone else experiencing their phone to be slightly slower AT times then when on Sense 4.0? Just sometimes my home screen and other parts of the system will just feel generally slower. The camera seems slower and the 'Developer Options' are really glitch now true. Tell the screen to flash when there is an update and the whole system becomes unresponsive. Really can't understand it..
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jaaystott said:
Hey guys,
Anyone else experiencing their phone to be slightly slower AT times then when on Sense 4.0? Just sometimes my home screen and other parts of the system will just feel generally slower. The camera seems slower and the 'Developer Options' are really glitch now true. Tell the screen to flash when there is an update and the whole system becomes unresponsive. Really can't understand it..
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well, you are the first one from whom i have heard that after installing sense 4.1 your phone is slower...
mate 4.1 is lot faster than sense 4.0 and is locked at 60 fps
try factory reset once and check if these problems still exist
have been using sense 4.1 for more than 2 weeks now and just loving it

Actually it is away faster in the screen switching, it is extremly smooth. However the app drawer lags alittle.
But overall it's faster.
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Wooow, this guy have sg3 and hox..
Am right? Lucky Boy.
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jaaystott said:
Hey guys,
Anyone else experiencing their phone to be slightly slower AT times then when on Sense 4.0? Just sometimes my home screen and other parts of the system will just feel generally slower. The camera seems slower and the 'Developer Options' are really glitch now true. Tell the screen to flash when there is an update and the whole system becomes unresponsive. Really can't understand it..
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Try a factory reset or if your rooted with a custom recovery just format cache and dalvic cache. Then Give the phone 2 full charges from at least 20% in at least a 2 day span.
It could be a bad app or mod that is causing the issues. Usually it's never a bad ota update that slows the device. Also I recommend a backup program.
mzaza said:
Actually it is away faster in the screen switching, it is extremly smooth. However the app drawer lags alittle.
But overall it's faster.
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The app drawer would only lag if you have a large amount of apps installed. Maybe get rid of ones you don't use
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Not so great after all...
While I don't notice that my phone is any slower after the update to 4.1, the update hasn't solved my WiFi issue. Which I wasn't really expecting it to, but they did say it should even out the signal, it hasn't. I couldn't tell the difference about the 3D widget stacking or whatever on the stock launcher, 'nor could I notice a difference when opening the app drawer or swiping through homescreens.
That is not to say that the update didn't do anything. I know that benchmarks don't prove much of anything, some argue that they do. I don't really care too much for them, but out of curiosity sake, I ran some. Now, my phone is bone stock, I can't unlock the bootloader because my volume rocker cable is broken. So I'm not rooted, nothing. With Sense 4.0 and Android 4.0.3 I scored horribly, worse than the One X in the stats, at about 3900. I don't know what was going on, but I ran that twice and got the same result. Anyway, after the update to 4.1 and 4.0.4 I scored 5928 and that is with Apex Launcher and Holo Locker locked in memory.
Take from the benchmarks what you will! The 4.1 update does not work miracles, but it's a step in the right direction!

Brett610 said:
'nor could I notice a difference when opening the app drawer or swiping through homescreens.
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You can't be serious here?
Home screen smoothness is silky smooth on stock launcher now, the performance improvement was MASSIVE on home screens.
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chrisjcks said:
You can't be serious here?
Home screen smoothness is silky smooth on stock launcher now, the performance improvement was MASSIVE on home screens.
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I am very serious, I found it to be very smooth to begin with on 4.0... I didn't have my screens filled with lots of widgets or shortcuts though. That might make a difference. I haven't tried using a livewallpaper yet either. I do notice that Recent Apps seems to be a lot smoother, but with the stock launcher, I don't see much. The app drawer might be quicker to open than before.

jaaystott said:
Hey guys,
Anyone else experiencing their phone to be slightly slower AT times then when on Sense 4.0? Just sometimes my home screen and other parts of the system will just feel generally slower. The camera seems slower and the 'Developer Options' are really glitch now true. Tell the screen to flash when there is an update and the whole system becomes unresponsive. Really can't understand it..
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I'd run an RUU.

We should start writing "marked" everytime we find trolls.
So whisky dont have to read entire thread to close it.
MARKED
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dragonesdenano said:
Wooow, this guy have sg3 and hox..
Am right? Lucky Boy.
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Most certainly are right started off with a One X, got rid of it due to all the WiFi problems and other things coming to light, then picked up another one because the GS3 is so boring, but now I have both.
What I will say is what I am experiencing is not all the time every second, its just sometimes.. I'll have a quick go resetting and messing about, thanks for the suggestions guys.
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2.17 is brisk
try to wipe or free some space on your SD card

I'm experiencing the same after my ota - its great that the menu bar has gone but the home screen and recent apps just feel a bit sluggish.
For example, when opening recent apps, the current app will appear but other apps to the left of it appear after a slight delay. Swiping home screens is definitely more sluggish here; before ota it was a bit jerky (when swiping, home screen would occasionally jump from one position to another, but in general they followed finger location exactly), but now they lag slightly behind my finger, and instead of jumping positions they pause for a moment and then continue to move smoothly. I think this could be caused by the business calendar app though, it usually only happens on that page...
The problem with the launcher closing when a few apps are open is still just as bad as it was before (and still takes about 15-20 seconds to load the launcher again, which does seem a bit excessive...)
But despite the complaining above, it's really not the end of the world and I don't think it's worth bothering to do a factory reset and see if it works although I'm gradually growing to hate sense and might build up the courage to root and flash some experimental roms soon...

slishak said:
I'm experiencing the same after my ota - its great that the menu bar has gone but the home screen and recent apps just feel a bit sluggish.
For example, when opening recent apps, the current app will appear but other apps to the left of it appear after a slight delay. Swiping home screens is definitely more sluggish here; before ota it was a bit jerky (when swiping, home screen would occasionally jump from one position to another, but in general they followed finger location exactly), but now they lag slightly behind my finger, and instead of jumping positions they pause for a moment and then continue to move smoothly. I think this could be caused by the business calendar app though, it usually only happens on that page...
The problem with the launcher closing when a few apps are open is still just as bad as it was before (and still takes about 15-20 seconds to load the launcher again, which does seem a bit excessive...)
But despite the complaining above, it's really not the end of the world and I don't think it's worth bothering to do a factory reset and see if it works although I'm gradually growing to hate sense and might build up the courage to root and flash some experimental roms soon...
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Well, recents apps loads of moves perfectly.
Home screens are silky smooth.
If your not getting that, go install a RUU and fix it.
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slishak said:
I'm experiencing the same after my ota - its great that the menu bar has gone but the home screen and recent apps just feel a bit sluggish.
For example, when opening recent apps, the current app will appear but other apps to the left of it appear after a slight delay. Swiping home screens is definitely more sluggish here; before ota it was a bit jerky (when swiping, home screen would occasionally jump from one position to another, but in general they followed finger location exactly), but now they lag slightly behind my finger, and instead of jumping positions they pause for a moment and then continue to move smoothly. I think this could be caused by the business calendar app though, it usually only happens on that page...
The problem with the launcher closing when a few apps are open is still just as bad as it was before (and still takes about 15-20 seconds to load the launcher again, which does seem a bit excessive...)
But despite the complaining above, it's really not the end of the world and I don't think it's worth bothering to do a factory reset and see if it works although I'm gradually growing to hate sense and might build up the courage to root and flash some experimental roms soon...
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Hi,
Had the same problem. Turns out at least on my device after update to 2.17 the dev option "Don't keep activities" was ticked.
I know it wasn't before.
Wonder if it was a battery saving measure. Anyway made my phone sluggish so I turned it off, all back to normal.
Cheers

Mildwild 14 bugs.

Hi, has anyone else had a problem with screen lock/ unlock sounds, can't remember which one was not working, but even when checked in sound settings menu, one did not work. Also, the Superuser app had a problem with the UI, where you could not scroll across the display from one tab to another at the top of the window and sometimes you could not manually select the tab by tapping on it. Gone back to mildwild 5 until an update to 14 that solves all bugs appears. Thanks all!

howie5469 said:
Hi, has anyone else had a problem with screen lock/ unlock sounds, can't remember which one was not working, but even when checked in sound settings menu, one did not work. Also, the Superuser app had a problem with the UI, where you could not scroll across the display from one tab to another at the top of the window and sometimes you could not manually select the tab by tapping on it. Gone back to mildwild 5 until an update to 14 that solves all bugs appears. Thanks all!
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When my superuser app updated itself all those problems you described were fixed, so try updating
Another bug I found in camera was when you try and change the brightness of the shot it force closes app.
One more is when reading text messages it sometimes flickers white/black.
Apparently he is working on a new rom for us, Can't wait!

No problems here except for the cpu settings when i try to adjust the min or max freq or governor i get a force close. Done a full wipe but still the same, it's been like this for me since version 12.

Mildwild 14 update
Some requests to the Great Mildwild.
Unfortunately I'm so satisfied that I've posted too few posts to post in MW forum.
I'm using Redux2 mod from 2012, then moved to Mildwild10, finally to MW14.
Quick settings menu:
- could you add rotation features that's the only feature lacking?
Phone application:
- it seems to be slower to appear when ringing like it were with a low priority
- the bigmouth is not so funny, could you get back a standard face?
Gmail app:
- unread messages are not differentiated, it seems that the bold characters are missing
General:
I'm experiencing some slef reboot, but I'm not able to understand if it's caused by any app or OS.

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howie5469 said:
Hi, has anyone else had a problem with screen lock/ unlock sounds, can't remember which one was not working, but even when checked in sound settings menu, one did not work. Also, the Superuser app had a problem with the UI, where you could not scroll across the display from one tab to another at the top of the window and sometimes you could not manually select the tab by tapping on it. Gone back to mildwild 5 until an update to 14 that solves all bugs appears. Thanks all!
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My experience is that the launcher negatively affects the mod.
Personally I use Holo Launcher instead of Xperia, that was tricky on all version.
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awkland said:
No problems here except for the cpu settings when i try to adjust the min or max freq or governor i get a force close. Done a full wipe but still the same, it's been like this for me since version 12.
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Nor do I, never experienced such problems.
After modding with MW 14 and restoring through Titanium Backup, I had to wipe camera data. You can try.
I prefer ICS Camera and Gallery that were used in original Redux and got from the market.
The ICS Camera is more flexible, quick access to setup and less iOS style.
The ICS Gallery is less show, but thumbnails appera more clear on small screens.

Bluetooth A2DP
Hello, I'm using this rom for 3 weeks and it's working properly for me, but recently I've trying to use a new bluetooth car hands free device and it works properly for calls, but whenever I try to use it's A2DP feature to listen my phone's music with my car radio speakers, it doesn't work. My phone's music Player doesn't stream music through bluetooth, it only uses phone's speakers. Does anybody know if there's something that must be done to stream music through bluetooth, or the problem is that this feature is not really working in this rom? Any solution?

busybox
Once the rom is installed, a step I usually take soon is the upgrade of busy box. More than once it has helped me to vaporize strange behaviors.

Memory Issues STILL

What up guys,
I feel like I can't be the only one still experiencing memory issues even after the 5.1.1 update. I have tried so many things to resolve this but even after a fresh reboot, I open one app and the free memory drops to 700 MB or lower. This can't be right, my wife has an LG G3 and has 37 apps running in the background yet has 1.3 GB free.
I have edited the build.prop (even though the tutorials were based on 5.0.2) to see if that would improve things but it did not.
Quite honestly, day to day use...it isn't super noticeable but when it is, it is very annoying and I know that is the underlying reason. It's just one of those things in the back of my mind where I'm like, "come on, this is a flagship and was quite expensive, this shouldn't be happening.
Is anyone else experiencing any of this at all?

ganooch said:
What up guys,
I feel like I can't be the only one still experiencing memory issues even after the 5.1.1 update. I have tried so many things to resolve this but even after a fresh reboot, I open one app and the free memory drops to 700 MB or lower. This can't be right, my wife has an LG G3 and has 37 apps running in the background yet has 1.3 GB free.
I have edited the build.prop (even though the tutorials were based on 5.0.2) to see if that would improve things but it did not.
Quite honestly, day to day use...it isn't super noticeable but when it is, it is very annoying and I know that is the underlying reason. It's just one of those things in the back of my mind where I'm like, "come on, this is a flagship and was quite expensive, this shouldn't be happening.
Is anyone else experiencing any of this at all?
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Of course, we all are. Unfortunately samsung dropped the ball when it came to arm64 and memory management. I don't think it will be resolved as long as the S6 runs TouchWiz. I'm not entirely sure why the S6 is having the issues it is, but arm devices aren't having the issue even on 5.1.1. Apparently samsung did set the dha pretty aggressive on the S5 and note 4 but they're able to adjust it and it runs well.

ganooch said:
What up guys,
I feel like I can't be the only one still experiencing memory issues even after the 5.1.1 update. I have tried so many things to resolve this but even after a fresh reboot, I open one app and the free memory drops to 700 MB or lower. This can't be right, my wife has an LG G3 and has 37 apps running in the background yet has 1.3 GB free.
I have edited the build.prop (even though the tutorials were based on 5.0.2) to see if that would improve things but it did not.
Quite honestly, day to day use...it isn't super noticeable but when it is, it is very annoying and I know that is the underlying reason. It's just one of those things in the back of my mind where I'm like, "come on, this is a flagship and was quite expensive, this shouldn't be happening.
Is anyone else experiencing any of this at all?
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We all are my friend ........well all are !!!!! We feel your pain
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I also notice my WiFi runs good but if I put my phone away then unlock it and look up a Web page the page freezes then it's loads up like my WiFi was paused
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winco209 said:
We all are my friend ........well all are !!!!! We feel your pain
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I also notice my WiFi runs good but if I put my phone away then unlock it and look up a Web page the page freezes then it's loads up like my WiFi was paused
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Could be my router

There's no way of finding out but maybe ALL your apps are running in the background at the same time. With the old style app manager you could tap the ram button and you would get a toast msg telling how many apps closed.
Pp.

Is Android P DP2 stable enough for daily driver?

I really want to get the beta. If people are running it, is it stable enough for daily use? Thanks

I've been using it for a few days now. I've not had and crashes or major issues. The only issues I've experienced are the recent apps screen sometimes not responding to touch when using gesture navigation (hit the home button and try again fixes) and the screen brightness is stupidly bright. Like really stupidly bright. I use it on the lowest setting all the time. Even with the slider at about 10% the screen is way too bright for me.

It is very stable, no major issues....just a few glitches like no weather in lock screen.

Yes, even dp1 was very good for my usage...

I agree that it is very stable for its age. If you use the Nova Launcher, you will not see apps in the drawer right now.

So from the sound of it, it would pass for daily driver. I rely on my phone for work heavily and want to make sure I can get by with the beta because I'm dying to try the new version

For me.... Yes. For others.... Maybe not. I can tell you it is very solid.

I am finding it to be quite solid. No issues at all so far after a few days. Battery life seems good too.
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For me.... Yes. For others.... Maybe not. I can tell you it is very solid.
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It's been usable without any crashes, reboots, or shutdowns. But given that it just came out yesterday, using it only for one day doesn't really give an idea if it's stable enough for everyday usage. A week of usage would give a better idea as phone/app usage can alter per day and cause some issues.
It's just silly to label something as "stable" after running it for less than 24 hours.

Hows the mic on recording with android P?

Mines been going pretty well... I'm using it as my daily driver. Only issues is a rare freeze when trying to switch apps. Shutting off the screen fixed it for me. And once the Bluetooth wouldn't connect properly to my car...a restart fixed it. Battery and everything else has been good.

TonikJDK said:
It is very stable, no major issues....just a few glitches like no weather in lock screen.
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change to card app drawer. they will work then
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how do I make my toggles white and blue?????
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Daily driver ready? Sure.. I had to bail due to some unforseen issues with a few core apps that I depend on. Sounds silly, but my visual voicemail with AT&T is important. A few other apps are acting a fool but nothing major. Just found a few things a bit wonky, if that's the right word? I'll flash again tonight though, it's what I do! See if I can figure out what's going on with the visual voicemail app. On 8.1 it just 'verifies' my info with AT&T via a text. On P it asks for a PIN which I enter, but it never does much else. Interesting!! Way too far off to complain to ATT though...

If you use Outlook and OneDrive, you might have issues. Can't open either and just get crashes.
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EeZeEpEe said:
If you use Outlook and OneDrive, you might have issues. Can't open either and just get crashes.
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I dont use Outlook, but OneDrive works fine for me. Maybe try uninstall/re-install, or clear app data.
I rarely use the MS app though, I prefer to just use Solid Explorer to access OneDrive.

I am having great experience with P beta..getting a dope battery life too..for a beta build! But the only issue i have is.. Snapchat crashes as hell! Leaving that..very good one as a daily driver..and very smooth too!

It's been very good for me. No app crashes except for Snapchat, which can be fixed relatively painlessly through a clear data and relogin, especially with autofill. I've also updated it to the latest beta that they updated on May 9th. No other apps have FC'd so far, but then again you may be using different ones. All the basic functionality works fine, camera, settings, etc. Only hiccup sometimes is the new multitasking setup will occasionally throw up a small stutter, but it quickly fixes itself.

The only issues I've noticed so far, and they're not that bad:
1) Bug with the Nova app drawer. You have to use "Card" or "Vertical Scrolling" to get your icons to appear, otherwise they're invisible (but still "clickable"). It's obviously a Nova Launcher "bug" and not a Android "P" problem though. The stock Launcher (and many other 3rd party launchers) work perfectly.
2) For me, the "upcoming alarm" appearing on the lock screen or at the top of the new quick tiles menu make no sense on my phone. The upcoming alarm on the lock screen always shows the current time + 10 minutes (For example if its' 9:04PM, the upcoming alarm will show 9:14pm) In the quick tiles menu, the next alarm always shows "00:00am" or "06:00am" randomly. The alarms work normally. Cosmetic bug
Can someone confirm they're experiencing the same problem?
3) Here and there, you'll notice the animations can be sluggish and not as smooth as with Oreo, the screen takes a little bit longer to turn on and unlocking the phone with the fingerprint scanner is a little bit slower than with Oreo. It's not unbearable though, just noticeable
4) I have an "iBaby" monitor in my son's room and from time to time, the app will FC right after launching, but will launch normally 2 seconds later. I'll blame the app for that and not Android.
Otherwise, battery life is great, the phone is very stable (no FCs on Android processes and 99,999% of the apps I use), it feels fast (except for some sluggish animations I mentioned before), phone calls work, camera works great, Quick Charge works, Google Cast / Chromecast work, no major issues so far
Overall, it's pretty stable for an early beta and I wouldn't hesitate to give it a try, I'm pretty sure you'll enjoy it a lot. All the small refinements it comes with already makes it superior to Oreo imo despite its beta status. Can't wait to give the DP3 a try next month

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Very good for me so far. Only been a day, but so far am actually liking it better than 8.1.0! Nothing making me feel that I'll go back.
Only thing - when I use Action Launcher, the back button never disappears from the navigation bar - even when on the home screen. Guess it perceives the phone as still having an app active.
Ah well, making me give stock launcher another chance - though I miss my covers and shutters ?
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jbarcus81 said:
Daily driver ready? Sure.. I had to bail due to some unforseen issues with a few core apps that I depend on. Sounds silly, but my visual voicemail with AT&T is important. A few other apps are acting a fool but nothing major. Just found a few things a bit wonky, if that's the right word? I'll flash again tonight though, it's what I do! See if I can figure out what's going on with the visual voicemail app. On 8.1 it just 'verifies' my info with AT&T via a text. On P it asks for a PIN which I enter, but it never does much else. Interesting!! Way too far off to complain to ATT though...
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That sucks re: your visual voicemail - one of the first things I checked after flash. Happily it works on Telus here in Canada.