Hey guys,
Anyone else experiencing their phone to be slightly slower AT times then when on Sense 4.0? Just sometimes my home screen and other parts of the system will just feel generally slower. The camera seems slower and the 'Developer Options' are really glitch now true. Tell the screen to flash when there is an update and the whole system becomes unresponsive. Really can't understand it..
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jaaystott said:
Hey guys,
Anyone else experiencing their phone to be slightly slower AT times then when on Sense 4.0? Just sometimes my home screen and other parts of the system will just feel generally slower. The camera seems slower and the 'Developer Options' are really glitch now true. Tell the screen to flash when there is an update and the whole system becomes unresponsive. Really can't understand it..
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well, you are the first one from whom i have heard that after installing sense 4.1 your phone is slower...
mate 4.1 is lot faster than sense 4.0 and is locked at 60 fps
try factory reset once and check if these problems still exist
have been using sense 4.1 for more than 2 weeks now and just loving it
Actually it is away faster in the screen switching, it is extremly smooth. However the app drawer lags alittle.
But overall it's faster.
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Wooow, this guy have sg3 and hox..
Am right? Lucky Boy.
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jaaystott said:
Hey guys,
Anyone else experiencing their phone to be slightly slower AT times then when on Sense 4.0? Just sometimes my home screen and other parts of the system will just feel generally slower. The camera seems slower and the 'Developer Options' are really glitch now true. Tell the screen to flash when there is an update and the whole system becomes unresponsive. Really can't understand it..
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Try a factory reset or if your rooted with a custom recovery just format cache and dalvic cache. Then Give the phone 2 full charges from at least 20% in at least a 2 day span.
It could be a bad app or mod that is causing the issues. Usually it's never a bad ota update that slows the device. Also I recommend a backup program.
mzaza said:
Actually it is away faster in the screen switching, it is extremly smooth. However the app drawer lags alittle.
But overall it's faster.
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The app drawer would only lag if you have a large amount of apps installed. Maybe get rid of ones you don't use
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Not so great after all...
While I don't notice that my phone is any slower after the update to 4.1, the update hasn't solved my WiFi issue. Which I wasn't really expecting it to, but they did say it should even out the signal, it hasn't. I couldn't tell the difference about the 3D widget stacking or whatever on the stock launcher, 'nor could I notice a difference when opening the app drawer or swiping through homescreens.
That is not to say that the update didn't do anything. I know that benchmarks don't prove much of anything, some argue that they do. I don't really care too much for them, but out of curiosity sake, I ran some. Now, my phone is bone stock, I can't unlock the bootloader because my volume rocker cable is broken. So I'm not rooted, nothing. With Sense 4.0 and Android 4.0.3 I scored horribly, worse than the One X in the stats, at about 3900. I don't know what was going on, but I ran that twice and got the same result. Anyway, after the update to 4.1 and 4.0.4 I scored 5928 and that is with Apex Launcher and Holo Locker locked in memory.
Take from the benchmarks what you will! The 4.1 update does not work miracles, but it's a step in the right direction!
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'nor could I notice a difference when opening the app drawer or swiping through homescreens.
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You can't be serious here?
Home screen smoothness is silky smooth on stock launcher now, the performance improvement was MASSIVE on home screens.
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chrisjcks said:
You can't be serious here?
Home screen smoothness is silky smooth on stock launcher now, the performance improvement was MASSIVE on home screens.
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I am very serious, I found it to be very smooth to begin with on 4.0... I didn't have my screens filled with lots of widgets or shortcuts though. That might make a difference. I haven't tried using a livewallpaper yet either. I do notice that Recent Apps seems to be a lot smoother, but with the stock launcher, I don't see much. The app drawer might be quicker to open than before.
jaaystott said:
Hey guys,
Anyone else experiencing their phone to be slightly slower AT times then when on Sense 4.0? Just sometimes my home screen and other parts of the system will just feel generally slower. The camera seems slower and the 'Developer Options' are really glitch now true. Tell the screen to flash when there is an update and the whole system becomes unresponsive. Really can't understand it..
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I'd run an RUU.
We should start writing "marked" everytime we find trolls.
So whisky dont have to read entire thread to close it.
MARKED
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dragonesdenano said:
Wooow, this guy have sg3 and hox..
Am right? Lucky Boy.
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Most certainly are right started off with a One X, got rid of it due to all the WiFi problems and other things coming to light, then picked up another one because the GS3 is so boring, but now I have both.
What I will say is what I am experiencing is not all the time every second, its just sometimes.. I'll have a quick go resetting and messing about, thanks for the suggestions guys.
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2.17 is brisk
try to wipe or free some space on your SD card
I'm experiencing the same after my ota - its great that the menu bar has gone but the home screen and recent apps just feel a bit sluggish.
For example, when opening recent apps, the current app will appear but other apps to the left of it appear after a slight delay. Swiping home screens is definitely more sluggish here; before ota it was a bit jerky (when swiping, home screen would occasionally jump from one position to another, but in general they followed finger location exactly), but now they lag slightly behind my finger, and instead of jumping positions they pause for a moment and then continue to move smoothly. I think this could be caused by the business calendar app though, it usually only happens on that page...
The problem with the launcher closing when a few apps are open is still just as bad as it was before (and still takes about 15-20 seconds to load the launcher again, which does seem a bit excessive...)
But despite the complaining above, it's really not the end of the world and I don't think it's worth bothering to do a factory reset and see if it works although I'm gradually growing to hate sense and might build up the courage to root and flash some experimental roms soon...
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I'm experiencing the same after my ota - its great that the menu bar has gone but the home screen and recent apps just feel a bit sluggish.
For example, when opening recent apps, the current app will appear but other apps to the left of it appear after a slight delay. Swiping home screens is definitely more sluggish here; before ota it was a bit jerky (when swiping, home screen would occasionally jump from one position to another, but in general they followed finger location exactly), but now they lag slightly behind my finger, and instead of jumping positions they pause for a moment and then continue to move smoothly. I think this could be caused by the business calendar app though, it usually only happens on that page...
The problem with the launcher closing when a few apps are open is still just as bad as it was before (and still takes about 15-20 seconds to load the launcher again, which does seem a bit excessive...)
But despite the complaining above, it's really not the end of the world and I don't think it's worth bothering to do a factory reset and see if it works although I'm gradually growing to hate sense and might build up the courage to root and flash some experimental roms soon...
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Well, recents apps loads of moves perfectly.
Home screens are silky smooth.
If your not getting that, go install a RUU and fix it.
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slishak said:
I'm experiencing the same after my ota - its great that the menu bar has gone but the home screen and recent apps just feel a bit sluggish.
For example, when opening recent apps, the current app will appear but other apps to the left of it appear after a slight delay. Swiping home screens is definitely more sluggish here; before ota it was a bit jerky (when swiping, home screen would occasionally jump from one position to another, but in general they followed finger location exactly), but now they lag slightly behind my finger, and instead of jumping positions they pause for a moment and then continue to move smoothly. I think this could be caused by the business calendar app though, it usually only happens on that page...
The problem with the launcher closing when a few apps are open is still just as bad as it was before (and still takes about 15-20 seconds to load the launcher again, which does seem a bit excessive...)
But despite the complaining above, it's really not the end of the world and I don't think it's worth bothering to do a factory reset and see if it works although I'm gradually growing to hate sense and might build up the courage to root and flash some experimental roms soon...
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Hi,
Had the same problem. Turns out at least on my device after update to 2.17 the dev option "Don't keep activities" was ticked.
I know it wasn't before.
Wonder if it was a battery saving measure. Anyway made my phone sluggish so I turned it off, all back to normal.
Cheers
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i find the way HTC has done multitasking is a bit irritating,, you cant view multiple apps at once and its rather irritating when removing recent apps..
do you guys prefer the way ICS handles it more than htc????
and the better question is would we see a tweak to revert it to the ICS way
The htc way may look impressive at first but having to perform multiple swipes around a 3d interface that show one app at a time is slow and inefficient. A list or grid view with a close button next to each app will be much more convenient and i would less of a drain on your battery.
Yes i much prefer the stock ICS one, makes much more sense to see 4 apps at once and swipe them off very quickly, instead of swiping one, then waiting, then swiping one, then waiting *sigh*
It's part of sense & that's why I bought this phone and not wait for the sgs3 because I prefer sense over stock android. Some parts may be less efficient but for me sense vastly improves Android experience so little things like this are worth it. Sure there will be a mod for rooted phones
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I very much prefer the ICS stock one. Hope there's a way to change that without needing a root. Not about to root a new phone so soon.
Definitely HTC easier than aosp ics.
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Definitely HTC easier than aosp ics.
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Just a question, how exactly do you find the HTC multitasking easier than ASOP?
Cause its easier to navigate. I find scrolling left or right easier then up and down on aosp. It's a matter of taste. I have a gnex and I couldn't get use to the multitasking on it. On the one x i use it more.
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Cause its easier to navigate. I find scrolling left or right easier then up and down on aosp. It's a matter of taste. I have a gnex and I couldn't get use to the multitasking on it. On the one x i use it more.
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I guess but I prefer the fact that you can see more than one app on ASOP
The Sense way of doing it is slow. It's slow to start and when you close an app you have to wait for the slow animation to slide in the next app. I understand that HTC wants to do things different but omg don't do things slow and laggy. Have you tried scrolling the bookmark list in the browser!? It's slow.
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The Sense way of doing it is slow. It's slow to start and when you close an app you have to wait for the slow animation to slide in the next app. I understand that HTC wants to do things different but omg don't do things slow and laggy. Have you tried scrolling the bookmark list in the browser!? It's slow.
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Yep, I think that's even the bigger problem. I have no problem with the tabs themselves, but it's annoying that you first see the (outdated) picture of the app flying in, wait for one second till it's replaced with the actual app and then you can do something.
Actually, I don't prefer any of them. I prefer the pre-ICS way of multitasking - it was the most efficient, fastest way (altough also the ugliest) of switching between apps.
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The Sense way of doing it is slow. It's slow to start and when you close an app you have to wait for the slow animation to slide in the next app. I understand that HTC wants to do things different but omg don't do things slow and laggy. Have you tried scrolling the bookmark list in the browser!? It's slow.
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You can close the left and right app on the side as well by swiping up on it, and you don't need to wait for the animation or wait for it to go to the middle. The ICS method isn't that great either. Where yo actually do need to wait for the animation.
Love the way HTC has done it. I tend to use it more to switch between apps, rather than to kill apps, I guess ics is intelligent enough to handle the background apps.
Btw, the feeling is more like the vista aero style app switching.
but even when just switchings apps i think ics is better,, you can see like 4 apps at once
This is a classic case of "to each his own." I prefer the sense. It looks better. I really don't notice any speed difference.
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flame10 said:
Love the way HTC has done it. I tend to use it more to switch between apps, rather than to kill apps, I guess ics is intelligent enough to handle the background apps.
Btw, the feeling is more like the vista aero style app switching.
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I dont think it (or the stock ICS one) ever actually kills an app.
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I second the motion of having a mod to have ICS multi-tasking
Much better then the sense if you ask me.
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I dont think it (or the stock ICS one) ever actually kills an app.
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It does, by swiping the application upwards and out of your screen so to say, you effectively kill the application....
rajitsingh said:
I dont think it (or the stock ICS one) ever actually kills an app.
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it doesnt "kill" it like a task killer does, however it does end it as if you were in the app and pressed the back button until you get to the home screen, rather than just pressing the home button. It effectively ends your session in that app.
Stock ICS method as on my tablet is MUCH better than the Sense method on my phone. Yet another Sense feature that is poorly conceived; HTC should leave the software to Google. If I could get stock ICS with the hardware features of the phone all retained, and a full warranty, I'd switch in a heartbeat. Sense has far too many annoyances, and brings nothing of value to the table.
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Hi
In every list that one should drag to scroll down there's always a stutter at first before the list starts to move. How can it be that a device with 4 or 5 cors could behave like this? Just curious
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ToddeSwe said:
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In every list that one should drag to scroll down there's always a stutter at first before the list starts to move. How can it be that a device with 4 or 5 cors could behave like this? Just curious
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It might be due to the ramping up of the cpu's, and the time before it ramps up. These values can be customized*. Also remember that sense is not the most ui friendly rom(skin). If you are rooted, and tried any of the jb roms, you would know what I'm talking about.
*Requires root.
timlambo said:
It might be due to the ramping up of the cpu's, and the time before it ramps up. These values can be customized*. Also remember that sense is not the most ui friendly rom(skin). If you are rooted, and tried any of the jb roms, you would know what I'm talking about.
*Requires root.
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Not rooted on this device because I've had the WiFi problem on 8 devices. Don't dare to void my warranty or risk having to pay for the repair.
Are you saying that jb doesn't have this fenomen? If so I'm really looking forward to it even more.
I'm waiting for s-off then I dare to root.
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ToddeSwe said:
Not rooted on this device because I've had the WiFi problem on 8 devices. Don't dare to void my warranty or risk having to pay for the repair.
Are you saying that jb doesn't have this fenomen? If so I'm really looking forward to it even more.
I'm waiting for s-off then I dare to root.
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No, it doesn't, and it's so smooth it's actually scary. At least the aosp builds don't have lag. Whether the Htc version will be the same, remains to be seen.
I have to admit the feeling can't be described. Bad to hear about that 8 devices which all had wifi problems.
ToddeSwe said:
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In every list that one should drag to scroll down there's always a stutter at first before the list starts to move. How can it be that a device with 4 or 5 cors could behave like this? Just curious
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Do you have some specific examples? In pulling down menus from Settings and scrolling through them mine doesn't stutter. I think a lot of individual performance issues are based on what apps (and their quality), monitors, analyzers, and tweakers you have running and/or in the background. Tasker is a good example because it's always monitoring the phone for movement or an action even if it's not doing anything. Here's an interesting article about how Android paints the screen. Even eight cores wouldn't make a difference. Maybe JB will change things. FWIW, there are tons of pages of discussions about stuttering issues in the SGS3 forum too. The thing both phones have in common are overlays and tons of OEM apps running in the background.
Android Graphics
https://plus.google.com/10505198573...8x93s#105051985738280261832/posts/2FXDCz8x93s
SGS3 Stuttering
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1757344
Man! i honestly thought htc wasn't doing bad on this quad-core phone......... Until i tried the unfinished jelly bean roms. After flashing back to even the test rom, i was really shocked. This is really incredible for a quad core. It stutters so much it's crazy. Even the app drawer lags. I just charged my phone to flash a jelly bean room. HECK, it's not just jelly bean, i was doing fine on ICS CM9 ROM. Is it sense?
As for the wifi problem, that just adds more fuel to the fire for people who buy an htc device for the first time, my first experience with HTC is really not as nice as i would have hoped it would be. Sadly i realized my WIFI problem after rooting. I didn't make a nandroid back up and without an RUU i can't see myself getting back to stock unless someone who is also on the same provider as i am is willing share their nandroid back up with me so i can send it in for repair - not blaming htc on this one...just HOPE I'M NOT CHARGED FOR H/W FAULT that comes from them.
I can wait at the moment to get my wifi repaired.Can't say i am satisfied with the device. One thing that's for certain is it's not the hardware in the phone that's the issue. I can only hope HTC does the right thing when it comes to this device.
HTC Sense is beautiful compared to Jelly bean , that just visually. However the lag that comes with it outweighs the beauty. That's my take on all of this so far. Hope they do the right thing.
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Do you have some specific examples? In pulling down menus from Settings and scrolling through them mine doesn't stutter. I think a lot of individual performance issues are based on what apps (and their quality), monitors, analyzers, and tweakers you have running and/or in the background. Tasker is a good example because it's always monitoring the phone for movement or an action even if it's not doing anything. Here's an interesting article about how Android paints the screen. Even eight cores wouldn't make a difference. Maybe JB will change things. FWIW, there are tons of pages of discussions about stuttering issues in the SGS3 forum too. The thing both phones have in common are overlays and tons of OEM apps running in the background.
Android Graphics
https://plus.google.com/10505198573...8x93s#105051985738280261832/posts/2FXDCz8x93s
SGS3 Stuttering
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1757344
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Using the stock browser go to the youtube desktop site and scroll around, pinch zoom
If you have a lot of music open the music app go to song view and scroll
use the tapatalk xda app
let the device sleep for a while then immediately open the app draw and scroll around
scroll in the gmail app
Those are some examples of the stutters that annoy me with htc roms, it may be a little nit picky but a quad core device should be able to do all the things listed above with ease.
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Man! i honestly thought htc wasn't doing bad on this quad-core phone......... Until i tried the unfinished jelly bean roms.
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Were you using the stock ROM and JB the same way? My One X flies after a hard reset but once I load my 97 apps and have my ten syncs running in the background it's noticably slower (but still five times faster than the i9100 it replaced). I got to try out a (S4) SGS3 for a few days. It wasn't any faster than my One X with the same apps and syncs running and I noticed the launcher issue talked about in the thread I posted above. The browser's faster because it's a Samsung strength and HTC weakness. A car accelerates differently with one passenger than it does with five while also towing a trailer.
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JJbdoggg said:
Using the stock browser go to the youtube desktop site and scroll around, pinch zoom
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I don't even have to try this one. HTC's known for their pretty average stock browsers. I keep using it because I use the "read" button a lot. Samsung ditched reflow in the SGS3 to ensure a smoother browsing experience. Users aren't too happy.
If you have a lot of music open the music app go to song view and scroll
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With a song playing via BT, I scrolled through songs and it didn't stuttter. I have about 1K songs stored on my phone.
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Don't use it.
let the device sleep for a while then immediately open the app draw and scroll around
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Turned it on, unlocked it, went right to the app drawer and started scrolling. I noticed some drag in the transition from one page to another that went away the more I kept scrolling.
scroll in the gmail app
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I get Gmail through the stock app.
Can be either the lack of preparation (has to dump whatever it was going to render and render a new one), which triple buffering solves, or garbage collection being done, which is most commonly manifest as random FPS drops while scrolling through a long list. The first will be fixed in 4.1, the second requires disabling the Dalvik scroll cache.
Out of nowhere my GS3 is very sluggish. Swiping between home screens is jumpy. Some games literally run at half-speed. Launching apps can take quite some time. Etc...
I haven't installed any new apps since the last time I noticed it was running smoothly. I'm not really sure how to troubleshoot this. I've tried battery pulls, hard resets and clearing the cache from CMW. But nothing seems to work.
I was thinking that maybe an app had been updated in the background that is now a problem. But I can't think of a way to tell which apps have been recently updated.
Any guidance would be much appreciated.
Many thanks!
-Jason
This might sound stupid, but did you check if the power saving mode is on or not?
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amgpower63 said:
This might sound stupid, but did you check if the power saving mode is on or not?
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That was exactly it!!!!
Damn I feel like an idiot
Thanks though... it was making me crazy.
Factory reset, restore no apps. Check got lag. Add one app, check for lag. Continue until lag is found
And when you add an app back, dl it fresh from the market (no restoring anything).
amgpower63 said:
This might sound stupid, but did you check if the power saving mode is on or not?
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I'm sorry, but when i'm running stock or a custom TouchWiz ROM, i tend to have power saving mode on 24/7, and never experience any UI sluggishness.
elementaldragon said:
I'm sorry, but when i'm running stock or a custom TouchWiz ROM, i tend to have power saving mode on 24/7, and never experience any UI sluggishness.
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Same here.
elementaldragon said:
I'm sorry, but when i'm running stock or a custom TouchWiz ROM, i tend to have power saving mode on 24/7, and never experience any UI sluggishness.
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Depends on the app. Non-stock launchers get very choppy on power save mode.
Any solutions for this issue... anyone try pimp my rom?
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Depends on the app. Non-stock launchers get very choppy on power save mode.
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One of the first things I thought of was that maybe Nova received an update that I wasn't aware of and it had broken something. So I tried TouchWiz and GoLauncher... all with the same result. Overall, the phone felt slightly sluggish. But some things apps and games became unusable. The new Rayman game literally ran at half speed. Other games would run at full speed but you could tell that control response was just a hair off. So you would end up walking off a lot of cliffs to straight into an enemy before you could get a jump off. It also effected load times on most things. Some apps that would load in 4-5 seconds were suddenly taking 30-40.
I can repeat this problem 100% of the time. I even tried toggling off the CPU option but Power Save still gave me the same issues (which doesn't make sense).
I have a completely stock never rooted GS3 and have had this sluggishness since the update. It happens when the screen auto dims, even though I have auto-dimming turned off. It also happens when I wake the screen up. I can't get the notification bar down or anything for about 5 long seconds; then it's fine until the shadow of my finger covers the front light sensor and the screen dims. It's almost like a hiccup. I'm going to factory reset this weekend. Was hoping to get Jelly Bean before I did so I didn't have to download all my apps again, and set all my settings. This is my first Samsung Android and it's an amazing phone when it's first started but after it runs for a few hours it gets buggy; so I'm pretty disappointed.
A note to anyone trying to solve this mystery: before the update I couldn't get my calendar to accept custom notification sounds, now I can. Since not everyone had that issue I'm guessing the software had issues since the day the phone was built. In manufacturing sometimes **** happens.
When in doubt pull it out . Oh I miss the BlackBerry Battery pull days to fix lag
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Depends on the app. Non-stock launchers get very choppy on power save mode.
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Try Launcher Pro Plus - fastest, smoothest, most customizable launcher there is. Period. Forget Nova and Apex... Go try LPP!! Never lags or gets choppy, power save mode or not.
G-Man. said:
Try Launcher Pro Plus - fastest, smoothest, most customizable launcher there is. Period. Forget Nova and Apex... Go try LPP!! Never lags or gets choppy, power save mode or not.
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Does that one even still work? I loved LPP but thought it was dead.
Jirv311 said:
Does that one even still work? I loved LPP but thought it was dead.
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It is. Hasn't been updated in like a year and a half.
MethodX said:
It is. Hasn't been updated in like a year and a half.
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Fede is actually working on a new update. No release date yet. LPP still works better than any launcher out there. I've tried virtually every launcher available, and always go right back to LPP. Who cares that it hasn't been updated in a year or more, it hasn't needed to be updated. It's flawless.
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Fede is actually working on a new update. No release date yet. LPP still works better than any launcher out there. I've tried virtually every launcher available, and always go right back to LPP. Who cares that it hasn't been updated in a year or more, it hasn't needed to be updated. It's flawless.
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Nice. Same here. Haven't switched to another launcher since the captivate. Glad Fede is ok. I remember a couple months back, one of the android sites sent out a call for him. when you would type fede carnales in google, choices such as "fede carnales dead?" came up.
edit: Just found the link and see he replied to it.
http://phandroid.com/2012/07/29/cal...es-if-you-get-this-message-please-do-respond/
After finally getting the update, I tried 4.2 for the first time. To be honest, I imagined 4.2 to be a needed update to the already amazing 4.1.2.
PERFORMANCE
Like some of the users have stated, there is a slight slow down in performance. After using 4.1, the drop in frame rates in 4.2 is more evident. Apps run slower, laggier, and less smooth. Not all apps though, just some. To name a few would be Apex Launcher, Lock Screen App, Whatsapp (only slightly) and a few others. This bugs me. Project Butter? I definitely do not feel that its faster now despite what people have said.
STABILITY
I don't know how many apps I couldn't run because they forced close. And I'm suspecting its due to this 4.2 update. So now I'm patiently waiting for the updates to hopefully solve the problem.
NEW FEATURES
- Lock screen
I really dislike the new lock screen. It just looks ugly to me. The fonts they used in 4.1 was already great. Why change it to this? Google Now has been placed down at the bottom now, making it slower to access it in my opinion. There were a few times where the phone couldn't detect my swipes - maybe it could just be my fault for not hitting the right place). The idea of having widgets on the lock screen is well...rather niche. There isn't even a lot of widgets that can be added on to the lock screen unless I have to reinstall all my apps that I installed before the update. The worst thing about is, it lags. Even on the lock screen.
- Quick settings menu
I don't really find this helpful. Here's why. I already have an app called 'Notification Toggle' that basically adds toggles in my notification bar. Its minimal, quick and fast. I have no problem with Google adding their own version. Its just that in doing that, they have gotten rid of the settings button at the main notification drawer (one finger pull for notifications). Their own toggles are alright. I'm OK with the look of it, but 5 toggles just isn't enough for me (the others are just shortcuts e.g. settings, profile, battery). Hope Google puts back their settings button like in 4.1 or just improve on their toggles.
- Photosphere
One of the main updates in 4.2. I do like the software and layout behind it. Its really well thought out and its definitely an improvement from 4.1.I can access things faster, capture pictures faster and do photosphere - which is googles new 360 panorama that is similar to Google maps Street View. It isn't exactly perfect but I'm guessing its also the users part to take a well-stitched photosphere.
- Keyboard
This is probably the part where I won't complain. This keyboard is the keyboard I've been waiting for. After using Sense 4's keyboard with 'Swype' gestures, I couldn't find any keyboard that could outmatch it. Everything was perfect for me with that keyboard. But now finally I can say that I have found a better one. Not only aesthetically but also functionally. I type faster and smarter now. Google has done a great job with the prediction engine. Almost 90% of the time I'll get the word I want. And even if I don't, the word will more than likely to appear next to the main predicted word. But I believe that the upcoming updates will improve on that.
CONCLUSION
And no, if you're wondering I'm no apple guy. I prefer Android over iOS. These tiny little things just tick me off sometimes. Especially when it comes to performance issues. Most probably either jumping back to 4.1 or flashing another ROM. I think the only thing I wanted from this update was the 'new' keyboard and probably photosphere. I could've just got it separately and not complain. But anyway, that's my thoughts on 4.2. Quite disappointed as you can tell. If you're thinking of updating, think again before you do.
UPDATE: Replaced lock screen with Widget Locker. One problem down. Weird, but it seems a tad faster now for some reason. Battery life is about the same or maybe a little worse.
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I applied the OTA as soon as I was presented to it, and I have to say that something must have gone TERRIBLY wrong! I had an extremely fast and responsive device, now my gnex is really unusable. Slow, hanging, lags is not the proper word, we are talking about geological eras, here! Instead of going back to stock, I want to test some custom roms (I have to reinstall anyway, so what the heck... I will seize the occasion) and see what could have happened, but I am really desperate. I am trying to understand if I really have to go back to 4.1.2...
I did ota and dont have any sort of lag(camera orientation only), i have over a 100 apps installed and none of them have force closed or slowed down
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guys.. Looks like u r Talking about another phone.
Have you tried a clean update?
I flashed takju 4.2 and everything is Better, my phone has only one issue: no december on peoples APP.. Even camera has Better features..OK there is no shortcut to see the pics...but man!!! Really!!! try a fresh start with stock 4.2
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Yes, that is what I have to do.
I have resistances to doing a full reset because I have made a backup of the SD, but I am happier if my data stay where they are!
For the moment, I will experiment with a couple of ROMs, so I can wipe everything but the SD via recovery.
I'm mostly disappointed with 4.2. A few nice additions I guess: lock screen widgets though it's more or less personal preference, native swipe texting and photosphere. I also like the foundation for multi-users. In the future I think that will be a big thing.
But there are too many downsides. Performance lag compared to 4.1.2 (yes, even after clean install) and my issue with my cheek still pressing things despite the proximity sensor having shut off the screen (I've pressed random numbers and even managed to hang up on people during calls because of it). These are the major things bothering me.
I'll probably be downgrading to 4.1.2 in a few days.
ejpenha said:
guys.. Looks like u r Talking about another phone.
Have you tried a clean update?
I flashed takju 4.2 and everything is Better, my phone has only one issue: no december on peoples APP.. Even camera has Better features..OK there is no shortcut to see the pics...but man!!! Really!!! try a fresh start with stock 4.2
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I think the bugs are because something is wrong with the OTA update itself.
I did a takju factory image flash with a clean storage and no performance issues or bugs at all (Except december), but when a friend of mine did the OTA he got most of the bugs people complain about.
Advice: wipe your phone clean and flash the factory image or wait for 4.2.1
I'm quite happy with 4.2
The lock screen is the matter of preference, I like to have the access to the camera when using PIN or gesture lock. In the future I see having some news or weather widget there but definitely not gmail or messaging. I'd quickly regret that if my phone would get lost or stolen.
I love swype functionality. It's a nice blend between two keyboards and it doesn't lag.
Photosphere is big, with some patience you can get amazing results. Try using some kind of tripod for best results.
Gmail pinch to zoom is the long awaited update and works great but also thanks to scaling your emails you can now scroll between emails more easily.
There are parts where the device feels more laggy, less responsive (camera orientation, multi task list) but these will hopefully be fixed with the future updates. And knowing there is no December in people app Google is probably working full speed to bring that 4.2.1 to us
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I agree with you on most post points.
What I really wanted to say though is that I'm really impressed that you wrote all this on your phone!
Nebucatnetzer said:
I agree with you on most post points.
What I really wanted to say though is that I'm really impressed that you wrote all this on your phone!
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Why? Im curious
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My only complain is the look of 4.2. The lock screen is ugly, the digital clock, bold hours makes no sense!
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Nebucatnetzer said:
I agree with you on most post points.
What I really wanted to say though is that I'm really impressed that you wrote all this on your phone!
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What the feeling of being annoyed can do to you these days...
ejpenha said:
guys.. Looks like u r Talking about another phone.
Have you tried a clean update?
I flashed takju 4.2 and everything is Better, my phone has only one issue: no december on peoples APP.. Even camera has Better features..OK there is no shortcut to see the pics...but man!!! Really!!! try a fresh start with stock 4.2
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I did a stock OTA update. And have around a little less than 200 apps in total.
Ma7moud90 said:
I think the bugs are because something is wrong with the OTA update itself.
I did a takju factory image flash with a clean storage and no performance issues or bugs at all (Except december), but when a friend of mine did the OTA he got most of the bugs people complain about.
Advice: wipe your phone clean and flash the factory image or wait for 4.2.1
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Maybe it's cos mines the yakju variant.
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I installed the OTA, and it slowed the phone down. Then I wiped the device clean and flashed the 4.2 image, it was still the same. Google messed up with this one.
Nexus is the way I like it.
No issues here....love the new update
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What bugs me is the lower volume in Google music -.- I can't hear anything -.- I hope they fix this sh*t ASAP... The gnex is quiet in general but now its annoying -.-
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ronnie_1712 said:
I installed the OTA, and it slowed the phone down. Then I wiped the device clean and flashed the 4.2 image, it was still the same. Google messed up with this one.
Nexus is the way I like it.
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Try flashing a costum kernel, could help out a lot. I prefer Franco Kernel.
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My only complain is the look of 4.2. The lock screen is ugly, the digital clock, bold hours makes no sense!
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I was having the same issues, when I installed it, but now I flashed a ROM and they changed these things. Try it yourself!
One more thing: white is really white on 4.2
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One annoying thing, that you haven't mentioned, is that I'm able to change the notification (calls, texts, etc) volume from the lock screen.
Edit: As soon as I get enough time, I'll downgrade to 4.1.2 again.
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4.2 made for nexus 4 which is quadcore device,so is it feel any different in gnex with dualcore??
I feel no difference between the two performance/battery wise. No dramas with it or whatsoever. I see no reason why not to upgrade to 4.2 but that's just me
I count 4 to 6 stutters, or frame drops on EVERY individual vertical swipe. It happens in third party apps, in settings, in tapatalk, virtually anywhere where there is vertical scrolling. I can reproduce it on Rogers, Bell and Telus official ROM's with a clean wipe each time and even a format from the stock recovery which deletes all non-stock folders on /sdcard. It happens even if the app I am scrolling vertically in is the only one open.
Sure, everything else is smooth-er, but I spend most of my time on this phone swiping vertically, on tapatalk, facebook etc. For my usage, it feels just like 4.0.4. I'm scrolling a $500 device at 2 frames per second. Do you know what year this is?
They call it butter but it feels more like a dull blade scraping on oakwood.
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I count 4 to 6 stutters, or frame drops on EVERY individual vertical swipe. It happens in third party apps, in settings, in tapatalk, virtually anywhere where there is vertical scrolling. I can reproduce it on Rogers, Bell and Telus official ROM's with a clean wipe each time and even a format from the stock recovery which deletes all non-stock folders on /sdcard. It happens even if the app I am scrolling vertically in is the only one open.
Sure, everything else is smooth-er, but I spend most of my time on this phone swiping vertically, on tapatalk, facebook etc. For my usage, it feels just like 4.0.4. I'm scrolling a $500 device at 2 frames per second. Do you know what year this is?
They call it butter but it feels more like a dull blade scraping on oakwood.
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mines great faster and buttery than ever!
dillis said:
mines great faster and buttery than ever!
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Same here.
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Smooth like butta!
I never rooted or messed around. 100% stock.
Very happy with this update!
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+1
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I count 4 to 6 stutters, or frame drops on EVERY individual vertical swipe. It happens in third party apps, in settings, in tapatalk, virtually anywhere where there is vertical scrolling. I can reproduce it on Rogers, Bell and Telus official ROM's with a clean wipe each time and even a format from the stock recovery which deletes all non-stock folders on /sdcard. It happens even if the app I am scrolling vertically in is the only one open.
Sure, everything else is smooth-er, but I spend most of my time on this phone swiping vertically, on tapatalk, facebook etc. For my usage, it feels just like 4.0.4. I'm scrolling a $500 device at 2 frames per second. Do you know what year this is?
They call it butter but it feels more like a dull blade scraping on oakwood.
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holy cow complain a little bit more!! Maybe your phone is just a lemon mine on the other hand is super smooth
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That's not my experience. Mine swipes smooth both horizontal and vertical. As does my wife's.
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my phone feels the same way too after the update even though i did a factory reset and wiped everything
Since vertical scrolling was also a problem for u in ics(as per your post in another thread) I think your problem is not the rom. I had no vertical scrolling issues in ics either
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scorpion667 said:
I count 4 to 6 stutters, or frame drops on EVERY individual vertical swipe. It happens in third party apps, in settings, in tapatalk, virtually anywhere where there is vertical scrolling. I can reproduce it on Rogers, Bell and Telus official ROM's with a clean wipe each time and even a format from the stock recovery which deletes all non-stock folders on /sdcard. It happens even if the app I am scrolling vertically in is the only one open.
Sure, everything else is smooth-er, but I spend most of my time on this phone swiping vertically, on tapatalk, facebook etc. For my usage, it feels just like 4.0.4. I'm scrolling a $500 device at 2 frames per second. Do you know what year this is?
They call it butter but it feels more like a dull blade scraping on oakwood.
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the update is pretty lame IMO. I have 2 games that are now almost unplayable, I hate the grey background in the notification bar, the home button doesnt "wake up" the phone in the app it was before, the zooming on the side in the browser is really annoying, and the list goes on.
The only benefit I can see is Touchwiz is a little bit snappier, thats it.
Anyone knows how to go back ?
optimus43 said:
Since vertical scrolling was also a problem for u in ics(as per your post in another thread) I think your problem is not the rom. I had no vertical scrolling issues in ics either
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Sounds the most likely. I too had and still have frame drops when vertical swiping. It occasionally crashed the xda app, that hasnt happened with jelly bean so far.
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No complaints over here! Smooth as a babies behind.
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Check to see that power saving is not enabled. It under clocks your phone. I found turning it off increased my performance massively. And it was enabled by default.
Bagbug said:
the update is pretty lame IMO. I have 2 games that are now almost unplayable, I hate the grey background in the notification bar, the home button doesnt "wake up" the phone in the app it was before, the zooming on the side in the browser is really annoying, and the list goes on.
The only benefit I can see is Touchwiz is a little bit snappier, thats it.
Anyone knows how to go back ?
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Mine is pretty snappy and smooth. I do not have the framing problem at all. In fact the scrolling has gotten much smoother. The battery problem has been solved with the cell standby and with regards to the waking up the phone with the home button, mine brings me back to the app, but I have read on other threads that some are having issues. I upgraded via Kies, but I doubt it would make a difference.
I know my friend was having issues until he did a factory reset, and everything got fixed.
The "home button wake returns to home" issue is a real deal breaker for me. Not worth the minor improvements IMHO (and I would classify the performance improvements as minor at best). Back to ICS for the time being. Pretty disappointed...
I'm quite happy with it. I like the new widgets for favorite contacts and Google Now is quite nice too.
My contacts didn't work since flashing AT&TJB ROM,never was smooth kind of jerky.LTE was great but I switched to new AT&T Black Jelly and it runs great!
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Maybe it's an app you have that isn't compatible with Jelly Bean. There were some pretty major changes. I had bad lag, until I realized it was the negative brightness overlay from Lux. Why don't you find other people with the lag and compare app lists?
And, my home button to wake up brings me back to whatever app I was in.
Of course you can go back.......look in the development threads for the stock ICS ROM. What website do you think you're at?
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And, my home button to wake up brings me back to whatever app I was in.
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What lock screen do you use?
Horrible scrolling lag in xda and settings. But not in any other a apps
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