I was recently on CM9 and had to flash back to stock GB in order to update the profile and PRL. Despite having backed up everything to Titanium beforehand, when I did a full restore (not advisable, I know, but it hasn't caused me any problems since I was restoring from CM9 to CM9), the system settings and Trebuchet's homescreens didn't get restored. I tried looking in Titanium's stuff but didn't even see an entry for it.
The settings don't bother me too much (although the fact that I lost my alarm settings made me nearly late for work the next day!), but it's a pain in the ass to have to redo all of my homescreens every time I reflash something like this. I guess I could get a different launcher but I actually like Trebuchet. Is there any way to back it up?
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I was recently on CM9 and had to flash back to stock GB in order to update the profile and PRL. Despite having backed up everything to Titanium beforehand, when I did a full restore (not advisable, I know, but it hasn't caused me any problems since I was restoring from CM9 to CM9), the system settings and Trebuchet's homescreens didn't get restored. I tried looking in Titanium's stuff but didn't even see an entry for it.
The settings don't bother me too much (although the fact that I lost my alarm settings made me nearly late for work the next day!), but it's a pain in the ass to have to redo all of my homescreens every time I reflash something like this. I guess I could get a different launcher but I actually like Trebuchet. Is there any way to back it up?
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Currently, no. It's on the list of things to do though.
Aganar said:
I was recently on CM9 and had to flash back to stock GB in order to update the profile and PRL. Despite having backed up everything to Titanium beforehand, when I did a full restore (not advisable, I know, but it hasn't caused me any problems since I was restoring from CM9 to CM9), the system settings and Trebuchet's homescreens didn't get restored. I tried looking in Titanium's stuff but didn't even see an entry for it.
The settings don't bother me too much (although the fact that I lost my alarm settings made me nearly late for work the next day!), but it's a pain in the ass to have to redo all of my homescreens every time I reflash something like this. I guess I could get a different launcher but I actually like Trebuchet. Is there any way to back it up?
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I believe you can MyBackup to do it. Make sure to select the backup system apps option in the settings.
Can you not restore the data portion of Trebuchet through Titanium and get your launcher layout back?
Nope. I switched to Nova Launcher, which can back itself up and restore.
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I just updated to the leaked Froyo Rom. Before doing so, I backed up using Titanium. Then, once the Rom was installed, I did a restore of "all applications and system settings." But for some reason, all my homescreen settings did not return. For example, on one Homescreen, I had the Touchdown Calendar widget, which has now been replaced by the HTC mail widget.
What happened to my homescreens and all the widgets I had arranged on them? Argh, this is exactly what I didn't want to happen!!!!!
Edit: And it didn't restore any of my SMS messages either!!!! Where is everything?
Edit #2: Also, all of my Stock data, Facebook setup, Twitter setup is all empty. I thought this was all supposed to restore with Titanium. I used "backup all apps and system data" before moving to this ROM.
not a good idea to restore data if you were coming from any 2.1 rom
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I just updated to the leaked Froyo Rom. Before doing so, I backed up using Titanium. Then, once the Rom was installed, I did a restore of "all applications and system settings." But for some reason, all my homescreen settings did not return. For example, on one Homescreen, I had the Touchdown Calendar widget, which has now been replaced by the HTC mail widget.
What happened to my homescreens and all the widgets I had arranged on them? Argh, this is exactly what I didn't want to happen!!!!!
Edit: And it didn't restore any of my SMS messages either!!!! Where is everything?
Edit #2: Also, all of my Stock data, Facebook setup, Twitter setup is all empty. I thought this was all supposed to restore with Titanium. I used "backup all apps and system data" before moving to this ROM.
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There is nothing wrong with Titanium, unless you want to argue that it should be programmed with even more features than it already has to prevent you from being able to do what you did. You restored settings and configurations that were from a different system version, and things didn't work right -- no surprise there.
I don't know what you can do about your SMS backups (I have never saved any), but as for the rest you probably need to bite the bullet. Wipe, re-flash the ROM, then set everything up again from scratch and if you are going restore old stuff with TI, stick to apps this time.
Good luck!
Worked great for me...but I only do apps and make sure to unchecked what I don't want
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OP = FAIL
You asked about it in the other thread and it was explicitly stated...
You never want to restore system files from one version of a rom to another, it can only create problems.
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This is a problem that you inflicted upon yourself after being warned that it was a bad idea.
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Worked great for me...but I only do apps and make sure to unchecked what I don't want
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Same here, worked like a champ.
najaboy said:
OP = FAIL
You asked about it in the other thread and it was explicitly stated...
This is a problem that you inflicted upon yourself after being warned that it was a bad idea.
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+ he posted in the wrong section, yet another FAIL
better to restore one by one, apps should restore fine, but accounts and such that are os specific surely wont work
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There is nothing wrong with Titanium, unless you want to argue that it should be programmed with even more features than it already has to prevent you from being able to do what you did. You restored settings and configurations that were from a different system version, and things didn't work right -- no surprise there.
I don't know what you can do about your SMS backups (I have never saved any), but as for the rest you probably need to bite the bullet. Wipe, re-flash the ROM, then set everything up again from scratch and if you are going restore old stuff with TI, stick to apps this time.
Good luck!
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If I've already lost the data/setup settings, why would I Wipe, re-flash, and set up everything from scratch. It's not like 2.2 is crashing after I did the Titanium restore, I'm just missing my SMSes and my home screen arrangement.
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If I've already lost the data/setup settings, why would I Wipe, re-flash, and set up everything from scratch. It's not like 2.2 is crashing after I did the Titanium restore, I'm just missing my SMSes and my home screen arrangement.
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Whatever floats your boat. Personally I wouldn't trust the integrity of the system after doing what you did, and would want to *know* that everything was proper before calling it a day.
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If I've already lost the data/setup settings, why would I Wipe, re-flash, and set up everything from scratch. It's not like 2.2 is crashing after I did the Titanium restore, I'm just missing my SMSes and my home screen arrangement.
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For future reference, 'SMS Backup & Restore' is a much better option for backing up your SMS messages. Never rely on Titanium Backup for SMS backups.
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For future reference, 'SMS Backup & Restore' is a much better option for backing up your SMS messages. Never rely on Titanium Backup for SMS backups.
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I used SMS backup and restore, but for 2nd time since I've had it, I didn't realize the scheduled backups just stopped occurring for no reason. So I lost my SMSes from the past couple weeks. Must be a bug in the program.
use launcherpro home app. it has an option to backup and restore all your icons and homescreen settings (minus widgets due to system limitations)
anytime im wiping and installing, i do a couple things
1. backup apps thru titanium then verify backed up apps
2. backup homescreen and settings thru launcher pro
3. drocap2 all my home screens so i can resetup my widgets
4. nandroid
all 4 items happen everytime, I have little worry about ever losing my settings.
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I don't know what you can do about your SMS backups (I have never saved any), but as for the rest you probably need to bite the bullet. Wipe, re-flash the ROM, then set everything up again from scratch and if you are going restore old stuff with TI, stick to apps this time.
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I use google voice and it saves all my texts when I login.
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I just updated to the leaked Froyo Rom. Before doing so, I backed up using Titanium. Then, once the Rom was installed, I did a restore of "all applications and system settings." But for some reason, all my homescreen settings did not return. For example, on one Homescreen, I had the Touchdown Calendar widget, which has now been replaced by the HTC mail widget.
What happened to my homescreens and all the widgets I had arranged on them? Argh, this is exactly what I didn't want to happen!!!!!
Edit: And it didn't restore any of my SMS messages either!!!! Where is everything?
Edit #2: Also, all of my Stock data, Facebook setup, Twitter setup is all empty. I thought this was all supposed to restore with Titanium. I used "backup all apps and system data" before moving to this ROM.
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Did you do a nandroid backup like you should do before every single wipe of your phone? No?
Well if you did then you would be able to go into ClockworkMod Recovery -> nandroid -> advanced recovery -> restore data. When you reboot the phone EVERYTHING will be exactly just like you left it on your previous 2.1 installation. I have done this and have not had one single problem. Not one single thing is in a different place then it was when I was using 2.1. All my text messages, call logs, home screen widgets, ect. are there.
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Did you do a nandroid backup like you should do before every single wipe of your phone? No?
Well if you did then you would be able to go into ClockworkMod Recovery -> nandroid -> advanced recovery -> restore data. When you reboot the phone EVERYTHING will be exactly just like you left it on your previous 2.1 installation. I have done this and have not had one single problem. Not one single thing is in a different place then it was when I was using 2.1. All my text messages, call logs, home screen widgets, ect. are there.
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I did use Nandroid, but I want to move to 2.2. Is there any way to move to 2.2 without losing the system data? If the answer is "no," I don't understand. What happens when HTC releases the official version, do they expect people to delete all their apps, homescreens, etc every time an update is released?
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i used titanium backup for apps+system settings going from skyraider 1.9 to 2.0 and i ran into very small problems like getting my wallpaper to load and being able to restore my adw settings. As far as i can see so far no big deal
i used mybackup pro to back up apps+data then my home screens, sms, dictionary and a few other things. pretty much had my phone exactly the way it was when i had it running 2.1
he's not totally alone
Some slack should be cut for the OP as he's not alone in the widget issue. I have used TB for ages now perfectly ok to swap apps and info from my 2 x10's. But this last time I have ended up with a home screen that has "missing" widgets. The screen space is allocated so I can't replace them but the widget doesn't show or work. I have put this down to the 2 phones not have.g the same home screen layout, but is bloody annoying as now I can't reclaim this space!!
Ok, so to me this program seems great - backs up pretty much EVERYTHING for me, so that if I flash and wipe a new rom, it restores everything to a usable level. Now my issue is I can't understand what people mean when they say you might as well not wipe at all. If you can't use TB to restore after a wipe, what is the point of using TB at all???
Is there a way to select parts that are "ok" to restore after a wipe? or is TB pretty much pointless?
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Read this it will help explain how TB can mess with your ROM.
http://geekfor.me/faq/why-you-shouldnt-be-using/
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Read this it will help explain how TB can mess with your ROM.
http://geekfor.me/faq/why-you-shouldnt-be-using/
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Thanks I read that but his post didn't really make it clear for me:
problem is that when a user makes the backup on one rom/build/version and imports it on another
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What exactly does this mean? I am running CM6 nightlies. Should it be wiped and not restored via TB each time? What about going from RC1 to RC2?
If the situation is such that you can restore via TB, then why not just flash the new one and skip wiping altogether?
Well one nice thing about Cm rom's is you can have google backup all the programs you download from the Market so no need for TB there. Where the problems can lie with TB is the SQLlite database files when restoring your user settings. If something has changed from rom versions and you restore your old sqllite settings and now its missing some information thats needed for the newer version rom it can cause problems like force closes or reboots.
For nightly's I just upgrade without a wipe. If I do have any quirks then I try a wipe which usually fixes whatever quirk I'm having.
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Well one nice thing about Cm rom's is you can have google backup all the programs you download from the Market so no need for TB there. Where the problems can lie with TB is the SQLlite database files when restoring your user settings. If something has changed from rom versions and you restore your old sqllite settings and now its missing some information thats needed for the newer version rom it can cause problems like force closes or reboots.
For nightly's I just upgrade without a wipe. If I do have any quirks then I try a wipe which usually fixes whatever quirk I'm having.
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yeah, I've been skipping the wipe unless there is a quirk.
So basically it sounds like TB is a total waste of time if you are running CM6? Sorry... just hard for me to understand why people love the program so much if there is no real application for it? Or is it just outdated by the backing up with Google?
it's like this - TB allows you to backup apps and settings. You may want to use this in addition to the backup that google provides - what if you find a great app, but its removed from the market? I don't think that the google backup will help you then - it will only restore what's currently in the market (disclaimer - I don't use CM6, so I'm not 100% on that).
The waste of time thing comes into play with people who have issues with a rom, so they re-flash the rom and restore apps and settings with TB. It might have been some of the settings (that were just restored with TB) that were causing the issues in the first place.
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it's like this - TB allows you to backup apps and settings. You may want to use this in addition to the backup that google provides - what if you find a great app, but its removed from the market? I don't think that the google backup will help you then - it will only restore what's currently in the market (disclaimer - I don't use CM6, so I'm not 100% on that).
The waste of time thing comes into play with people who have issues with a rom, so they re-flash the rom and restore apps and settings with TB. It might have been some of the settings (that were just restored with TB) that were causing the issues in the first place.
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^what he said
I LOVE TB but I use it to restore my apps and their data ONLY, I do not use it to restore system data.
I think with tb....when you restore your apps you have the choice to restore the apps with out the user data. Also you can choose to wipe them of data Before you restore.
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berardi said:
yeah, I've been skipping the wipe unless there is a quirk.
So basically it sounds like TB is a total waste of time if you are running CM6? Sorry... just hard for me to understand why people love the program so much if there is no real application for it? Or is it just outdated by the backing up with Google?
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Unlike Google's backup, TB backs up your /data/data folder, not just the APK's from your market-downloaded applications.
In other words, it backs up your application data, your apps you installed manually/downloaded, and all of your settings, such as Bluetooth name and pairings, WiFi networks (and security settings), etc.
My rule of thumb is, if going from one build to another (ie, Stock to CM6, etc.) then do NOT restore any system settings/apps. Just do a backup of YOUR apps, as-is, move over to the new ROM, restore apps and their settings, then go to the Market and update everything. Simple as that, and you shouldn't get any errors.
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it's like this - TB allows you to backup apps and settings. You may want to use this in addition to the backup that google provides - what if you find a great app, but its removed from the market? I don't think that the google backup will help you then - it will only restore what's currently in the market (disclaimer - I don't use CM6, so I'm not 100% on that).
The waste of time thing comes into play with people who have issues with a rom, so they re-flash the rom and restore apps and settings with TB. It might have been some of the settings (that were just restored with TB) that were causing the issues in the first place.
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Thanks that definitely helps. Market-removed apps seems like a good reason to have it. (I already bought it just trying to determine how to use it anyways)
Ok so is it fair enough to say it has a relatively "niche" market with the addition of market backups? I hate to be a bull in the ChinaShop but it seems like people really tip toe around the idea of TB being outdated by market backups. I get the general idea of what you guys are saying but I'm trying to decide what I want to do in personal practice.
I don't think I've experienced any issues but who knows if I've had less than optimal performance because of restoring previous settings. Are there any "safe" items that can be backed up and restored or is nothing really "safe" they all have entries in sqlite database that might be duplicated?
Thanks again guys for humoring me
I'm running the stock deodexed 3.29 but want to try out some of the other ROMs out there.
I plan on doing a nand backup and a Titanium backup for my apps and app settings.
But, is there any way for me to save my homescreen settings and then apply them again once I've restored all my apps?
Titanium should backup all your icons and widgets as part of the launcher data. What launcher are you using?
Note that normal widgets can't be restored properly. They will show up in the right place, but it will be an error message instead of the actual widget, and you will have to remove and re-add them. I believe this is an Android limitation. The special LauncherPro widgets don't have this issue.
I'm just running stock Sense launcher, save for a couple Rosie/lockscreen mods.
It's just a pain in the butt to go back in and re-add all my quick contacts and icons. I swear I did a Titanium restore before when going from 3.26 to 3.29 deodexed, and it did not restore anything on my home screens (it went to full OEM stock homescreen setup). Not sure what I'm missing then.
It should be the [Desktop] HTC Sense option, IIRC. You might have to reboot after restoring to get it to show up.
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It should be the [Desktop] HTC Sense option, IIRC. You might have to reboot after restoring to get it to show up.
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Hmmm. It's currently backed up so I'm assuming it was last time I restored also. Well I'll give it a shot again and see what happens. Worst case, it takes me an extra few minutes to set things up.
It's a system app, so if you were just restoring user apps+data, it would've missed it. Other than that, I'm not sure. It's been a while since I used the stock Sense launcher and had to restore it.
Ok thanks.
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when say going from stock 2.2 to cm 6.1.1? What id like is to say, take a list of my currently installed apps on the froyo, or from a backup, and make a list of them to be installed, with the accounts and what not set up. or, mount a backup so i can look at the apps i have installed and their passwords.
Titanium Backup
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Titanium Backup
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You can use titanium to install apps from other android versions? Because with the backup that comes with cwm, i tried restoring just the data after going to cm 6.1.1 and i got a weird little half brick device until i manually booted into recovery and reinstalled the rooted stock back up i made. now i wanna go back to cm 6.1.1 but i dont feel like writing a bunch of stuff down.
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You can use titanium to install apps from other android versions? Because with the backup that comes with cwm, i tried restoring just the data after going to cm 6.1.1 and i got a weird little half brick device until i manually booted into recovery and reinstalled the rooted stock back up i made. now i wanna go back to cm 6.1.1 but i dont feel like writing a bunch of stuff down.
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Works for me when I say restore back a 6.1.1 after running some 2.3. Usually I'm restoring (apps + data) stuff like setCPU_donate and other 3rd party apps and settings. Couldn't hurt but I'll tell you, messing with restoring anything other than a full rom backup in CWM makes me a bit nervous. Luckily there are alot of things to do what you're asking.
Yeah it made me nervous too after i did it. I didnt figure that user data itself would cause a perma brick though. But i was almost completely sure it wouldnt work at the time. And now i am completely sure. Yeah i downloaded titanium back up, and i backed up the apps i wanted to save the account info for, so we'll see what happens after cm gets done doin its thing.
Yes, Titanium Backup will backup not only the app, but also the user data as well - which is *way* handy.
It'll also backup system apps, so you do need to kinda watch what you're restoring (the free version of Titanium Backup makes you manually confirm every single app you restore, so it's a bit harder to screw up). It's a pretty sweet app, highly recommended.
Installing/restoring between versions is no problem.
yeah, it is pretty handy. Except when it came to swype.
Quick Q for Titanium. When I do a batch operation, it still asks me if I want to install the apk and then another if i want to open it or hit done. Is there a way to bypass those screens?
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Quick Q for Titanium. When I do a batch operation, it still asks me if I want to install the apk and then another if i want to open it or hit done. Is there a way to bypass those screens?
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Only if you buy the Pro version or whatever. It's not too expensive. I actually kinda like those screens, as it gives me a double-check so I don't install something I didn't want to.
Before ICS, restoring wasn't such a hassle because I could use Titanium Backup. I guess that doesn't work too well with any ICS ROMs (or, at least, AOKP).
So for those of you on either AOKP or CM9 - how are you restoring your **** after you wipe/flash? At this point, I'm doing it all manually which probably takes about 1-2 hours; 1-2 boooring hours!
Any tips?
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Before ICS, restoring wasn't such a hassle because I could use Titanium Backup. I guess that doesn't work too well with any ICS ROMs (or, at least, AOKP).
So for those of you on either AOKP or CM9 - how are you restoring your **** after you wipe/flash? At this point, I'm doing it all manually which probably takes about 1-2 hours; 1-2 boooring hours!
Any tips?
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I use My Backup Pro. Best backup app ever!
I used TB for a bit but found it giving me too many issues.
I know a lot of people prefer manual with the ICS leaks but I've had no issues since switching to My Backup Pro.
I dont restore....I like a clean rom.
ralexand said:
Before ICS, restoring wasn't such a hassle because I could use Titanium Backup. I guess that doesn't work too well with any ICS ROMs (or, at least, AOKP).
So for those of you on either AOKP or CM9 - how are you restoring your **** after you wipe/flash? At this point, I'm doing it all manually which probably takes about 1-2 hours; 1-2 boooring hours!
Any tips?
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Why aren't you able to use Titanium Back up? TB is what I used to restore my apps from a GB rom onto AOKP ICS.
I've used AOKP build 34 and cm9 alpha 3 and I've been able to use Titanium backup on both ROMS for Apps and App data. Others have said App data is probably a bad idea but so far I have had no trouble with it. Just make sure you don't restore system data. I accidently did that on my first flash, which was to the AOKP ROM and it screwed up SMS. However, just restoring Apps and data has worked fine for me on CM9 alpha 3 and AOKP 34, although others have said not to restore data for apps either so that's your call.
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I've used AOKP build 34 and cm9 alpha 3 and I've been able to use Titanium backup on both ROMS for Apps and App data. Others have said App data is probably a bad idea but so far I have had no trouble with it. Just make sure you don't restore system data. I accidently did that on my first flash, which was to the AOKP ROM and it screwed up SMS. However, just restoring Apps and data has worked fine for me on CM9 alpha 3 and AOKP 34, although others have said not to restore data for apps either so that's your call.
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Second on this as when I restored on ICS with TB it was only with apps and app data as well. System data is always pretty bad when you are restoring on a different Rom I think. I remember trying once when I flashed to CM7 and it completely screwed up the Rom and I had to wipe and reflash.
Its just not recommended guys its not like you can't do it. It was basically said so that there are not 100 posts about this not working and that not working all the while its because of a rogue app that had bad data. Try it if you want restore everything but if it goes bad for you then what... You got to start from scratch.
I am quite sure you do not need data restored for everything. Just do your apps and spot check which ones need data restored and get fix permissions from the market. If you get FC's after re installing data just run that to fix it up...
So TB away if you like but remember don't start complaining about bugs in rom threads if you do...
the recommendation from the install guide for cm9 tells to use "appbak" from the market, all it does is back up a list of apps you have then sends you to the market to download them fresh again, also i have noticed that gapps will automatically download many of the free apps saved to my account when i do a fresh install of a rom... you can always just download the apks from a third source and store them on your sd for quick install as well