Happy 420 every one! Hope everyones 420 was as good as mine. Oh also happy birthday Hitler bawhaha
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So few people seem to know 4/20 is hitlers bday. An fd up man, but genius as well. Crazy and wacko, but brilliant, as well, in terms of how he manipulated/dealt with peers.
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So few people seem to know 4/20 is hitlers bday. An fd up man, but genius as well. Crazy and wacko, but brilliant, as well, in terms of how he manipulated/dealt with peers.
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lol in stoner time you were on time too
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-pro-m...age&utm_campaign=new+article&wa_ibsrc=fanpage
I have a lot of friends and family who smoke pot, and the majority of them are pretty vocal about wanting it legalized. Let me make perfectly clear right off the bat that I'm not coming at this as an "anti-pot" guy because I personally don't give a **** if they legalize it, and it doesn't bother me that people smoke. I've done my share of illegal substances.
But why are pot advocates some of the most annoying f*****g people on the planet.
I'm not talking about the average Joe who just wishes it were legal. Hell, those people are inching into the majority and comprise a significant portion of our own audience. I'm talking about the people who push it so hard that they're just short of going door to door, like Mormons. And they get so aggressive and misguided in their arguments that I'm pretty sure that they are their own worst enemy at this point.
#5.Taxing it Will Save the Economy!
This one seems to be the dominant argument ever since the economy went to ****. "Legalize it and tax it! With all the money we'll save from enforcement and all the tax money we'll take in, it'll balance the budget!" And no, I'm not exaggerating the claims -- here's one of the more articulate articles that literally says marijuana would "save the economy."
Cited some pretty big numbers. "Full legalization would bring in $6.2bn annually if it were taxed at rates similar to those on alcohol and tobacco." Man, that's a lot! But when you put that up beside the total taxes collected in 2010 ($2.1 trillion) and the current national debt ($14.4 trillion), the dent it makes is comparable to trying to change the orbit of the Sun by shooting it with your BB gun.
There's no doubt that legalization would create some jobs and bring in some tax revenue. But it's a drop in the bucket, and when you start presenting that drop with titles like (as in the wake of the Prop 19 legalization movement in California last year) "Save California: Legalize Marijuana" and "To Save California, Legalize Pot", it makes it sound like you have no idea what you are talking about. In fact, it makes it sound like a bunch of young stoners making **** up, and that gives opponents an excuse to dismiss everything else you're saying.
It's the same when the advocates say that we'd be able to "fix the budget" by eliminating the cost of marijuana-related law enforcement, based on this insane idea that once the drug is legal, we'd no longer need any of that. As if the country would suddenly turn into a free-for-all, grow-your-own, weedathon where there are no regulations or restrictions on its production, and yet everyone would just volunteer to report and pay the $50 per ounce tax out of a sense of civic duty. Why? Because people prefer to do things the legal way? That's true... because they fear going to jail. Which means you still have to pay for cops to investigate and arrest people who use unauthorized pot.
This is what opponents were trying to explain during the California legalization debate, that you're going to need a lot of new regulations to figure out just exactly what activity you're legalizing, and what happens to the people who violate the new laws. Do you get the FDA involved in regulating the THC content? So then you need somebody enforcing those regulations, right? And to go after the stronger, black market stuff? Then we'd still have DUI arrests to deal with, and figuring out what weed does to your health insurance premiums, etc.
Again, let me make clear that whether it's legalized or not, my life doesn't change. I couldn't give less of a damn. It's the dishonesty of the arguments themselves, and the way you're absolutely bludgeoned with these on the internet, that I find infuriating. And none piss me off more than...
#4. We Need it for Cancer Patients! And to Make Paper!
This is a tactic used by almost every advocate I've ever met. See, they don't want to legalize pot because they want to smoke it and get high. No, they're only concerned on behalf of cancer patients. And they'll have martyrs they can pull out as examples, like that guy who was fired for using medical marijuana on the job. That's what legalization is really about, right, TokeOfTheTown.com?
This is usually lumped in with the general defense that "Hemp can be used for lots of things! You can make paper out of it. Clothing. Rope." Hell, marijuana was only made illegal because the traditional paper industry was afraid superior hemp would take over, right, website that has "420" in the URL?
I hear both arguments from friends constantly, and not a damn one of them has cancer. None of them has ever had a need for, nor owned a rope. And before they started reading "facts" off of a pro-weed website, not one of them thought twice about the paper industry. It's a bull****, back-door argument. And, again, it makes everything they say seem invalid -- the same as when states that do legalize for medicinal use immediately see half of the patients use it, not for cancer, but mysterious "chronic pain" or "stress relief." In other words, they lie so they can get medicinal weed, not caring that it makes the entire campaign seem like a lie.
People want to get high, and I just wish they'd come out and say it. Of all the arguments I've ever heard, I've never had a solitary person step up and just say with unmasked honesty, "I want to get stoned without the fear of being arrested." Which is ironic to me because it's the only argument I've ever heard that makes sense. It's the only one that's even remotely logical.
Putting up this front that weed is a magical cure for all things economic not only requires you to bend the truth beyond recognition, but makes it seem like you're admitting that simply wanting to get high is not a valid reason to make it legal. In fact, the cancer patients who do in fact benefit from it wind up becoming the victims of your bull****. When a perfectly healthy guy with dreadlocks and cannabis leaf t-shirts stands up next to the cancer patient and pretends the interests of the cancer patient are all he has in mind, it makes it look like both of them are full of ****.
#3.It's Good for You!
So the picture I'm starting to get is that pot advocates saw the government's old, ridiculous anti-weed propaganda that grossly exaggerated the harm of the drug and decided that the best way to combat that was to simply tell equally silly lies in the opposite direction. So in my lifetime I've seen the argument go from "pot isn't as bad as other illegal drugs" to "it doesn't hurt you" to literally saying weed is "good for you." You know, like it's Vitamin C or calcium.
For instance, when various studies showed that THC might slow the growth of some tumors (while making others grow faster), all of the studies pointed out that they got their results by injecting the chemical and not getting lab rats to smoke joints (a pretty major difference). Yet, pot advocates immediately took those results and translated them into endless headlines asserting that smoking weed "cures cancer." Never mind that all of these studies on the positive side effects of TCH and other chemicals in cannabis go way out of their way to tell you that this does not mean that smoking weed will cure your cancer.
That's because on the whole, breathing smoke of any kind, is not good for you. And with pot, you're inhaling smoke into your lungs and holding it there for a long time, and that's going to damage the tissue. In fact, just three joints a day do as much damage to the lungs as twenty cigarettes. We can be fair and cite this study saying there is no connection between cancer and smoking marijuana. Though we could also cite the studies that have found the opposite to be true.
But even if we take cancer off the table, there are a whole host of negative effects we can list. Right after smoking, the average heart rate increases between 20% to 100%, and that effect can last up to three hours -- your risk of heart attack shoots up fivefold within the first hour of using. If you have anxiety disorders, there's even more bad news. It's being found more and more that modern pot can actually cause panic attacks, and is a high risk for triggering an already existing condition. In the still-growing brains of younger smokers, it can stunt basic emotional development and promote paranoia. And just on the whole, users are far more likely to come down with illnesses and miss work than non-users. One of the biggest debates right now is whether younger users are at higher risk for the emergence of schizophrenia. Schizophrenia.com cites 30 studies that show a connection.
But again, I'm not trying to fall back to the government's "one joint will drive you insane" scaremongering. Pot is not as bad as heroin. That isn't my point. But don't go the other way and start acting like the **** is broccoli.
It's at this point that someone always brings up...
#2. Alcohol and Tobacco are Worse, and They're Legal!
Yep, booze and cigarettes are pretty bad for you. Deadly, even, if they're abused. Hell, I had a doctor tell me straight up that if I didn't quit drinking entirely, I'd be dead within the next five years. I've never heard a doctor tell someone that about their weed smoking. Drunk driving and smoking-related lung cancer have literally killed millions.
In fact, here's a not-at-all-retarded rebuttal from a legalization advocate in response to a "Foundation for a Drug-Free World" pamphlet that claims pot is more dangerous than alcohol. In case you didn't read that, it's exactly what you'd expect from a site that runs its articles over a background of marijuana leaf gifs, versus a highly generalized and exaggerated claim from an organization that is obviously anti-pot. The argument being, "Pot is worse than booze!" "Nuh-uh, alcohol is worse!"
But here's the thing about that entire debate: It doesn't matter.
Throwing out death tolls from tobacco smoke, drunk driving and liver disease makes perfect sense as an argument for making those things illegal. It makes zero sense when trying to convince somebody to make pot legal. Don't you understand that "It will kill fewer people than cigarettes!" could apply to anything? You could pass a law that lets 12 year olds carry concealed guns to school and it'd kill fewer people than drunk driving.
If the argument is that pot is the safer choice, then by that rationale, it's also safer than deep-throating a cactus or blowing a rattlesnake. Is someone obligating you to choose between the two? There's not a third option of just not doing either of them? That has baffled me for years, and I still don't understand it. But I've heard it. A lot. As if the legalization of one unhealthy activity obligates us to legalize every single thing that's less lethal than that.
You have to remember that the people who have the power to change these laws are old, rich, stuffy white guys who for the most part don't smoke weed. When they hear rebuttals like this, they're picturing a six year old kid stomping his foot and screaming at his mother, "Why can't I play that game? Jimmy's mom lets him play GTA, and that's way worse!" The end result is still that you're arguing for the right to make things worse than they were before.
#1.It's not Addictive!
Of course, the thing that scares society about any drug, and the thing that makes alcohol and tobacco so deadly, is addiction. This is crucial to any argument for legalization, because you can't talk about "freedom" to use some product if that same product in fact takes away your ability to freely choose to stop using it. You don't hear people at AA meetings sit around and reflect on how awesome it is that they have the freedom to drink.
Here, I have to admit my own personal experience bias -- my brother used to love giving me that "it's not addictive" line as he was lighting up his tenth one-hitter, with four hours of sunlight left in the day. He couldn't go more than a couple of hours without lighting up, but he's probably just an isolated case, right?
It's been suggested that because most users aren't habitual, the majority of people will never develop a severe dependency on pot. Much in the same way that not everyone who drinks will become an alcoholic. In fact, according to that link, about 15% of drinkers will develop a major dependency, as opposed to around 9% of marijuana users.
That's just the statistics for "severe" addictions. They claim that between 10% and 30% of marijuana smokers will at least fall into a minor addiction. Note that neither of those statistics are 0%. You know, the threshold for "not addictive."
This is where my brother loves to bring up our uncle... I'll call him Thundercock Soulpuncher. Uncle Thundercock smoked pot his entire adolescent life during the 1960s and 70s, and when he decided to file away his partying days and join the adult world, he had no problem at all stepping away from weed. But studies from 1983 to present show that the average THC level (the chemical in pot that gives the buzz) back then was about 4%. The same group found that over the last few decades, the seized pot they studied had risen to over 10%, with some plants as high as 30%. It's predicted that in the next five to ten years, that average will reach around 15% before it hits a plateau.
What's that mean? It means you get higher faster, using less of the drug. It also means that younger, inexperienced smokers have a higher chance of addiction than ol' Thundercock because they're smoking stickier ****.
Now, once again, it's widely believed that pot is much easier to quit than smoking, booze, heroin, and just about every other drug out there. But the belief that "it's not addictive" is bull****. Want an easy way to see if you're addicted? Give it up for a year. I have a feeling that would be tough for a lot of you, considering how many can't go one week without working it into a conversation. It's tough to give up something that you've built your entire personality around.
But just keep in mind: if you want to see a day when the cops won't hassle you for smoking it, you're going to need to be a lot smarter about how you argue the issue, that's all I'm saying.
The legalizing or Mary Jane alone wouldn't save the economy, but the decriminalization of all recreational drugs, tax and regulation and an end to the failed war on drugs would. There is more money spent on the enforcement of drug laws, and housing of non violent offenders for drug violations than almost any other domestic problem. If you take a page out of Amsterdam's Playbook, after the decriminalization of recreational drugs there crime rates plummeted and tax revenue increased almost 1000% due to the fact that the tax revenue had a new source and the existing tax revenue wasn't being plundered for enforcement of failed drug laws. In Amsterdam addicts can get their methadone from water fountain's in clinics for free so when they can't afford their heroin they aren't going out robbing and stealing because they are dopesick they can just walk into any 24hr clinic and get medication anonymously to ease their withdrawals. Over there there is no stigma attached to addicts that they are the scum of the earth, which is good because addiction is a disease and just because someone is an addict doesn't make them a bad person. That would be like saying because so and so has cancer they are a bad person and its all their fault they have cancer.
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And hipkat pot is not addicitive in tthe same way as nicotine, booze or heroin it is habit forming but when you quit there are no physical effects. I've smoked off and on for the last 15 years and never once had a problem going without it for anywhere from a few days to 2 or 3 years. I have also been addicted to painkillers after a surgery and after about 20 hours without am opiate in your system you feel like you have the worst flu in the world, chills, sweats, fever, diarrhea, vomiting, blurry vision, aches and pains etc. Alcohol withdrawal can be deadly, it causes seizures and can even result in coma. Nicotine withdrawal gives you migraines, diarrhea, sweats and shakes. Marijuana withdrawal you may not be as hungry all the time and you may not sleep as much, but there are no health risks or discomfort from it. Anyone who tells you marijuana is physically addicitive is a) a fearmonger and b) a flatout liar, there is absolutely 0 medical evidence to back their claims up because it is simply a scaretactic created by the anti drug nuts to keep the people from wanting it legalized by turning it into some kind of monster akin to heorin or cocaine.
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http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-pro-m...age&utm_campaign=new+article&wa_ibsrc=fanpage
I have a lot of friends and family who smoke pot, and the majority of them are pretty vocal about wanting it legalized. Let me make perfectly clear right off the bat that I'm not coming at this as an "anti-pot" guy because I personally don't give a **** if they legalize it, and it doesn't bother me that people smoke. I've done my share of illegal substances.
But why are pot advocates some of the most annoying f*****g people on the planet.
I'm not talking about the average Joe who just wishes it were legal. Hell, those people are inching into the majority and comprise a significant portion of our own audience. I'm talking about the people who push it so hard that they're just short of going door to door, like Mormons. And they get so aggressive and misguided in their arguments that I'm pretty sure that they are their own worst enemy at this point.
#5.Taxing it Will Save the Economy!
This one seems to be the dominant argument ever since the economy went to ****. "Legalize it and tax it! With all the money we'll save from enforcement and all the tax money we'll take in, it'll balance the budget!" And no, I'm not exaggerating the claims -- here's one of the more articulate articles that literally says marijuana would "save the economy."
Cited some pretty big numbers. "Full legalization would bring in $6.2bn annually if it were taxed at rates similar to those on alcohol and tobacco." Man, that's a lot! But when you put that up beside the total taxes collected in 2010 ($2.1 trillion) and the current national debt ($14.4 trillion), the dent it makes is comparable to trying to change the orbit of the Sun by shooting it with your BB gun.
There's no doubt that legalization would create some jobs and bring in some tax revenue. But it's a drop in the bucket, and when you start presenting that drop with titles like (as in the wake of the Prop 19 legalization movement in California last year) "Save California: Legalize Marijuana" and "To Save California, Legalize Pot", it makes it sound like you have no idea what you are talking about. In fact, it makes it sound like a bunch of young stoners making **** up, and that gives opponents an excuse to dismiss everything else you're saying.
It's the same when the advocates say that we'd be able to "fix the budget" by eliminating the cost of marijuana-related law enforcement, based on this insane idea that once the drug is legal, we'd no longer need any of that. As if the country would suddenly turn into a free-for-all, grow-your-own, weedathon where there are no regulations or restrictions on its production, and yet everyone would just volunteer to report and pay the $50 per ounce tax out of a sense of civic duty. Why? Because people prefer to do things the legal way? That's true... because they fear going to jail. Which means you still have to pay for cops to investigate and arrest people who use unauthorized pot.
This is what opponents were trying to explain during the California legalization debate, that you're going to need a lot of new regulations to figure out just exactly what activity you're legalizing, and what happens to the people who violate the new laws. Do you get the FDA involved in regulating the THC content? So then you need somebody enforcing those regulations, right? And to go after the stronger, black market stuff? Then we'd still have DUI arrests to deal with, and figuring out what weed does to your health insurance premiums, etc.
Again, let me make clear that whether it's legalized or not, my life doesn't change. I couldn't give less of a damn. It's the dishonesty of the arguments themselves, and the way you're absolutely bludgeoned with these on the internet, that I find infuriating. And none piss me off more than...
#4. We Need it for Cancer Patients! And to Make Paper!
This is a tactic used by almost every advocate I've ever met. See, they don't want to legalize pot because they want to smoke it and get high. No, they're only concerned on behalf of cancer patients. And they'll have martyrs they can pull out as examples, like that guy who was fired for using medical marijuana on the job. That's what legalization is really about, right, TokeOfTheTown.com?
This is usually lumped in with the general defense that "Hemp can be used for lots of things! You can make paper out of it. Clothing. Rope." Hell, marijuana was only made illegal because the traditional paper industry was afraid superior hemp would take over, right, website that has "420" in the URL?
I hear both arguments from friends constantly, and not a damn one of them has cancer. None of them has ever had a need for, nor owned a rope. And before they started reading "facts" off of a pro-weed website, not one of them thought twice about the paper industry. It's a bull****, back-door argument. And, again, it makes everything they say seem invalid -- the same as when states that do legalize for medicinal use immediately see half of the patients use it, not for cancer, but mysterious "chronic pain" or "stress relief." In other words, they lie so they can get medicinal weed, not caring that it makes the entire campaign seem like a lie.
People want to get high, and I just wish they'd come out and say it. Of all the arguments I've ever heard, I've never had a solitary person step up and just say with unmasked honesty, "I want to get stoned without the fear of being arrested." Which is ironic to me because it's the only argument I've ever heard that makes sense. It's the only one that's even remotely logical.
Putting up this front that weed is a magical cure for all things economic not only requires you to bend the truth beyond recognition, but makes it seem like you're admitting that simply wanting to get high is not a valid reason to make it legal. In fact, the cancer patients who do in fact benefit from it wind up becoming the victims of your bull****. When a perfectly healthy guy with dreadlocks and cannabis leaf t-shirts stands up next to the cancer patient and pretends the interests of the cancer patient are all he has in mind, it makes it look like both of them are full of ****.
#3.It's Good for You!
So the picture I'm starting to get is that pot advocates saw the government's old, ridiculous anti-weed propaganda that grossly exaggerated the harm of the drug and decided that the best way to combat that was to simply tell equally silly lies in the opposite direction. So in my lifetime I've seen the argument go from "pot isn't as bad as other illegal drugs" to "it doesn't hurt you" to literally saying weed is "good for you." You know, like it's Vitamin C or calcium.
For instance, when various studies showed that THC might slow the growth of some tumors (while making others grow faster), all of the studies pointed out that they got their results by injecting the chemical and not getting lab rats to smoke joints (a pretty major difference). Yet, pot advocates immediately took those results and translated them into endless headlines asserting that smoking weed "cures cancer." Never mind that all of these studies on the positive side effects of TCH and other chemicals in cannabis go way out of their way to tell you that this does not mean that smoking weed will cure your cancer.
That's because on the whole, breathing smoke of any kind, is not good for you. And with pot, you're inhaling smoke into your lungs and holding it there for a long time, and that's going to damage the tissue. In fact, just three joints a day do as much damage to the lungs as twenty cigarettes. We can be fair and cite this study saying there is no connection between cancer and smoking marijuana. Though we could also cite the studies that have found the opposite to be true.
But even if we take cancer off the table, there are a whole host of negative effects we can list. Right after smoking, the average heart rate increases between 20% to 100%, and that effect can last up to three hours -- your risk of heart attack shoots up fivefold within the first hour of using. If you have anxiety disorders, there's even more bad news. It's being found more and more that modern pot can actually cause panic attacks, and is a high risk for triggering an already existing condition. In the still-growing brains of younger smokers, it can stunt basic emotional development and promote paranoia. And just on the whole, users are far more likely to come down with illnesses and miss work than non-users. One of the biggest debates right now is whether younger users are at higher risk for the emergence of schizophrenia. Schizophrenia.com cites 30 studies that show a connection.
But again, I'm not trying to fall back to the government's "one joint will drive you insane" scaremongering. Pot is not as bad as heroin. That isn't my point. But don't go the other way and start acting like the **** is broccoli.
It's at this point that someone always brings up...
#2. Alcohol and Tobacco are Worse, and They're Legal!
Yep, booze and cigarettes are pretty bad for you. Deadly, even, if they're abused. Hell, I had a doctor tell me straight up that if I didn't quit drinking entirely, I'd be dead within the next five years. I've never heard a doctor tell someone that about their weed smoking. Drunk driving and smoking-related lung cancer have literally killed millions.
In fact, here's a not-at-all-retarded rebuttal from a legalization advocate in response to a "Foundation for a Drug-Free World" pamphlet that claims pot is more dangerous than alcohol. In case you didn't read that, it's exactly what you'd expect from a site that runs its articles over a background of marijuana leaf gifs, versus a highly generalized and exaggerated claim from an organization that is obviously anti-pot. The argument being, "Pot is worse than booze!" "Nuh-uh, alcohol is worse!"
But here's the thing about that entire debate: It doesn't matter.
Throwing out death tolls from tobacco smoke, drunk driving and liver disease makes perfect sense as an argument for making those things illegal. It makes zero sense when trying to convince somebody to make pot legal. Don't you understand that "It will kill fewer people than cigarettes!" could apply to anything? You could pass a law that lets 12 year olds carry concealed guns to school and it'd kill fewer people than drunk driving.
If the argument is that pot is the safer choice, then by that rationale, it's also safer than deep-throating a cactus or blowing a rattlesnake. Is someone obligating you to choose between the two? There's not a third option of just not doing either of them? That has baffled me for years, and I still don't understand it. But I've heard it. A lot. As if the legalization of one unhealthy activity obligates us to legalize every single thing that's less lethal than that.
You have to remember that the people who have the power to change these laws are old, rich, stuffy white guys who for the most part don't smoke weed. When they hear rebuttals like this, they're picturing a six year old kid stomping his foot and screaming at his mother, "Why can't I play that game? Jimmy's mom lets him play GTA, and that's way worse!" The end result is still that you're arguing for the right to make things worse than they were before.
#1.It's not Addictive!
Of course, the thing that scares society about any drug, and the thing that makes alcohol and tobacco so deadly, is addiction. This is crucial to any argument for legalization, because you can't talk about "freedom" to use some product if that same product in fact takes away your ability to freely choose to stop using it. You don't hear people at AA meetings sit around and reflect on how awesome it is that they have the freedom to drink.
Here, I have to admit my own personal experience bias -- my brother used to love giving me that "it's not addictive" line as he was lighting up his tenth one-hitter, with four hours of sunlight left in the day. He couldn't go more than a couple of hours without lighting up, but he's probably just an isolated case, right?
It's been suggested that because most users aren't habitual, the majority of people will never develop a severe dependency on pot. Much in the same way that not everyone who drinks will become an alcoholic. In fact, according to that link, about 15% of drinkers will develop a major dependency, as opposed to around 9% of marijuana users.
That's just the statistics for "severe" addictions. They claim that between 10% and 30% of marijuana smokers will at least fall into a minor addiction. Note that neither of those statistics are 0%. You know, the threshold for "not addictive."
This is where my brother loves to bring up our uncle... I'll call him Thundercock Soulpuncher. Uncle Thundercock smoked pot his entire adolescent life during the 1960s and 70s, and when he decided to file away his partying days and join the adult world, he had no problem at all stepping away from weed. But studies from 1983 to present show that the average THC level (the chemical in pot that gives the buzz) back then was about 4%. The same group found that over the last few decades, the seized pot they studied had risen to over 10%, with some plants as high as 30%. It's predicted that in the next five to ten years, that average will reach around 15% before it hits a plateau.
What's that mean? It means you get higher faster, using less of the drug. It also means that younger, inexperienced smokers have a higher chance of addiction than ol' Thundercock because they're smoking stickier ****.
Now, once again, it's widely believed that pot is much easier to quit than smoking, booze, heroin, and just about every other drug out there. But the belief that "it's not addictive" is bull****. Want an easy way to see if you're addicted? Give it up for a year. I have a feeling that would be tough for a lot of you, considering how many can't go one week without working it into a conversation. It's tough to give up something that you've built your entire personality around.
But just keep in mind: if you want to see a day when the cops won't hassle you for smoking it, you're going to need to be a lot smarter about how you argue the issue, that's all I'm saying.
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I'm one of those that started smoking the good stuff (30%) in late 90's which started and catch fame in the mid of 2005 I recently quit smoking I have a year and 3 month's so........
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Weed cures and helps in many ways there's a lot worse substances that are legal than weed, although its much legal here (Cali) because its legal medically but then all those strong medications gets tranferrrd down to us , anyways weed is acctually better for your body than cigarettes and alchool, the only known issue with weed is it makes your maturity stop for the period your smoking but then it goes back to normal that only applies tho if smoked before age 22, its perfectly fine.to drive on, no wrecks on dui of bud, but lots from alchool, its not bad for your lungs it actually cures them believe it or not if you smoke as much weed if not more than tabacoo you smoke, your lungs will stay normal, the doctor couldn't believe I smoked half a pack day the miracles.of weed, and another thing, weed is not ****en addictive! I think its some thing like 5% gets addicted, only because they become dependent on it after thier treatment is over, I smoked everyday at least a quad a week of good dank cali bud for like 2 years then stopped for a whole year with no urges or anything, I know what it means to be addicted I can't handle one day with out a cigarette hardest thing ever I've done it like twice I wanted to kill myself, smoke weed not tabacoo
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all I can say 420 sucked this year. I'm not a big party guy like was before but when the legal weed or aka spice became so big where I'm at to the point people have actually died on 420 this year. Stick with the og peoples.
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And hipkat pot is not addicitive in tthe same way as nicotine, booze or heroin it is habit forming but when you quit there are no physical effects. I've smoked off and on for the last 15 years and never once had a problem going without it for anywhere from a few days to 2 or 3 years. I have also been addicted to painkillers after a surgery and after about 20 hours without am opiate in your system you feel like you have the worst flu in the world, chills, sweats, fever, diarrhea, vomiting, blurry vision, aches and pains etc. Alcohol withdrawal can be deadly, it causes seizures and can even result in coma. Nicotine withdrawal gives you migraines, diarrhea, sweats and shakes. Marijuana withdrawal you may not be as hungry all the time and you may not sleep as much, but there are no health risks or discomfort from it. Anyone who tells you marijuana is physically addicitive is a) a fearmonger and b) a flatout liar, there is absolutely 0 medical evidence to back their claims up because it is simply a scaretactic created by the anti drug nuts to keep the people from wanting it legalized by turning it into some kind of monster akin to heorin or cocaine.
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I smoke weed, bro....
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I smoke weed, bro....
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I do on occasion, haven't since Xmas but I used to smoke all day every day. Never had a problem when I needed or wanted to quit. Now the oxycodone after my surgeries was another story, when I'd run out of that I was about ready to kill someone for another one. When I came off of them it was the worst 2 weeks of my life and the longest month before my head got back to normal.
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TBH, I rarely smoke anymore, but not having weed was never a problem for me, even when I was chronic,and I always have had very high standards when it comes to what I smoke.
Now, Marlboro's is another story
I only smoke dank always have since the first time I smoked, schwagg makes me sick, literally gives me a headache and makes my stomach hurt. I get mine from my mom, she grows her own, but I haven't seen her since Xmas cuz I flipped my car in Jan and haven't gotten a new one yet and she lives about 70 miles from me. When I reup to I'm gonna be fried cuz its been so long since I've smoked. Gonna have to roll 2 blunts and get out the 1ft double chambered headphyre
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Weed cures and helps in many ways there's a lot worse substances that are legal than weed, although its much legal here (Cali) because its legal medically but then all those strong medications gets tranferrrd down to us , anyways weed is acctually better for your body than cigarettes and alchool, the only known issue with weed is it makes your maturity stop for the period your smoking but then it goes back to normal that only applies tho if smoked before age 22, its perfectly fine.to drive on, no wrecks on dui of bud, but lots from alchool, its not bad for your lungs it actually cures them believe it or not if you smoke as much weed if not more than tabacoo you smoke, your lungs will stay normal, the doctor couldn't believe I smoked half a pack day the miracles.of weed, and another thing, weed is not ****en addictive! I think its some thing like 5% gets addicted, only because they become dependent on it after thier treatment is over, I smoked everyday at least a quad a week of good dank cali bud for like 2 years then stopped for a whole year with no urges or anything, I know what it means to be addicted I can't handle one day with out a cigarette hardest thing ever I've done it like twice I wanted to kill myself, smoke weed not tabacoo
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
I only smoke dank always have since the first time I smoked, schwagg makes me sick, literally gives me a headache and makes my stomach hurt. I get mine from my mom, she grows her own, but I haven't seen her since Xmas cuz I flipped my car in Jan and haven't gotten a new one yet and she lives about 70 miles from me. When I reup to I'm gonna be fried cuz its been so long since I've smoked. Gonna have to roll 2 blunts and get out the 1ft double chambered headphyre
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I've always been a light smoke. A bong hit or two and I'm good. Just enough to make bass deeper and the blues bluer..
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I've always been a light smoke. A bong hit or two and I'm good. Just enough to make bass deeper and the blues bluer..
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I've always been a heavy smoker, but I'm 6'7" 220lbs and have a really high metabolism, I can drink a 5th of crown black and still walk str8(that's y I usually drink Jim beam special 160proof) it takes a good blunt or joint to get me buzzed and 2 or 3 full bowls to the head if Im smoking the bong or my spoon pipe
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Hey , Can anyone upload Iperov's Pocket Guitar Sources or Similare Application , Links are dead in the main Topic .
Thank you
Yes my friend. I can help you, but first, let me tell you my tale...
It was a small village that I grew up in, probably much like your own. People laughed and cried, but we all loved the place we came from and that kept us together. Then in my early 20s I was visited by a knight of the realm. He had been given a quest, an almost impossible quest, but it was his duty to see the quest done, or die trying. Over the following months we became friends, that knight and I, and shared many a tale of fortunes, both good and bad. He became a brother to me, and I a brother to him. He trained me in the ways of combat, and I trained him in the ways of life, both of us learning the most vital lessons that the other had to offer.
Then came the day. My Brother had to leave. His quest awaited him, and he longed for the journey in a powerful way.
He gave me a map to show his route, in order that I may one day follow in his footsteps and see the monumentous journey through which he had struggled. The journey would be easy for me as he would have slain the many beasts along the way, and I would merely be an observer to the aftermath. That was the plan, but as we both know, in life, sometimes things do not go to plan.
Only two days after my Brother left our small village did he return. He had been poisoned by dwarves along the way, and he was now close to death. His final breath was a laboured breath, but it carried the words "it is your quest now, my Brother".
I knelt in the muddy street, my Brother's head in my lap, whilst I cried out into the raining sky "WHY GOD? WHY?", but God did not answer. He did not need to. I already knew what must be done.
And so, after an almost impossible effort, and losing many, many dear friends and loved ones along the way, I managed to struggle my way across the mountainous terrain, fighting off many vicious animals, not to mention the murderous mutated demons and creatures of The Pit. I faced The Mighty Baal himself and we fought... oh how we fought. At times I felt like I'd been fighting this monstrous demon forever, blow after blow ripping my life from me an ounce at a time, until I finally landed the fatal blow that freed us all from the uncertainty that had been raised by the quest.
This was truly an historic adventure that would be talked about, in a hushed voice, but a hushed voice filled with awe, for many generations to come.
I did it all for you my friend. This was an epic struggle, but I finally found your answer...
http://tinyurl.com/ydxd46k
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Yes my friend. I can help you, but first, let me tell you my tale...
It was a small village that I grew up in, probably much like your own. People laughed and cried, but we all loved the place we came from and that kept us together. Then in my early 20s I was visited by a knight of the realm. He had been given a quest, an almost impossible quest, but it was his duty to see the quest done, or die trying. Over the following months we became friends, that knight and I, and shared many a tale of fortunes, both good and bad. He became a brother to me, and I a brother to him. He trained me in the ways of combat, and I trained him in the ways of life, both of us learning the most vital lessons that the other had to offer.
Then came the day. My Brother had to leave. His quest awaited him, and he longed for the journey in a powerful way.
He gave me a map to show his route, in order that I may one day follow in his footsteps and see the monumentous journey through which he had struggled. The journey would be easy for me as he would have slain the many beasts along the way, and I would merely be an observer to the aftermath. That was the plan, but as we both know, in life, sometimes things do not go to plan.
Only two days after my Brother left our small village did he return. He had been poisoned by dwarves along the way, and he was now close to death. His final breath was a laboured breath, but it carried the words "it is your quest now, my Brother".
I knelt in the muddy street, my Brother's head in my lap, whilst I cried out into the raining sky "WHY GOD? WHY?", but God did not answer. He did not need to. I already knew what must be done.
And so, after an almost impossible effort, and losing many, many dear friends and loved ones along the way, I managed to struggle my way across the mountainous terrain, fighting off many vicious animals, not to mention the murderous mutated demons and creatures of The Pit. I faced The Mighty Baal himself and we fought... oh how we fought. At times I felt like I'd been fighting this monstrous demon forever, blow after blow ripping my life from me an ounce at a time, until I finally landed the fatal blow that freed us all from the uncertainty that had been raised by the quest.
This was truly an historic adventure that would be talked about, in a hushed voice, but a hushed voice filled with awe, for many generations to come.
I did it all for you my friend. This was an epic struggle, but I finally found your answer...
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Hun , i tried this , But Source Links are dead ><
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Hun , i tried this , But Source Links are dead ><
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There's a download for the app in the first page of the search results.
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There's a download for the app in the first page of the search results.
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I already have the app , but i need the sources -__-
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I already have the app , but i need the sources -__-
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A pm to the op is probably your best bet then. Good luck in your quest
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/18/visualized-the-glamorous-lifestyles-of-wp7-jailbreakers/
Sooo awesome
Good on you MS.
It's important nowadays for these companies to find a middle ground between locking a product down completely and opening it for everyone/anyone to mess with.
On one hand, if they lock it down, piracy will inevitably occur on a wide scale.
If they open it up, they won't make any money for future developments.
It's good to see they're taking an open approach and using there heads for a change.
its a good thing for MS open up and listen to idea.. wp7 has a bright future.. i haven't touch my droid since oct
I smell a publicity stunt. Large corporations are ran by lawyers, not good hearted people that care about what people want.
Do you actually think any thing good will come from this? I see a one sided deal happening nothing more.
So getting a 4XL T-Shirt declares WP7 as awesome.
Cool
This is great news. I was surprised that MS locked WP7 down so much, and wouldn't be surprised at all if they allowed sideloading in the future, turning the marketplace into a sort of "approved apps" store, like Apple have done on the Mac.
In response to the guy who's never had a job, large corporations are run by a CEO or equivalent, same as everything else. Microsoft would do better to welcome community support than be seen to be outsmarted by it, so I'm sure they will.
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I smell a publicity stunt. Large corporations are ran by lawyers, not good hearted people that care about what people want.
Do you actually think any thing good will come from this? I see a one sided deal happening nothing more.
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Nice way to think positive haha!
We'll get what we want one way or another.
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cstrife999 8 hours ago in reply to Sang Noir
Seriously this is nothing short of a PR stunt. I would bet my bottom dollar that behind the scenes things are moving differently.
Are you this guy on Engadget?
Yep vetvito, it's me again. Calling you out on your negativity towards WP7.
I know public discourse is encouraged here but public discourse that's always negative is kinda annoying.
This is an awesome move by MS. Some other companies would've ambushed them with lawyers once they were behind closed doors.
Oh how they have learned
I actually believe that MS has learn't some important lessons prior to releasing Win 7 & Phone 7. The most important one being listen to all your customers and take on board what they are saying.
Will be interesting to see what comes of the discussions and if the OS will be opened up somewhat for customisation.
Go the Chevron guys.. Oh, they are Aussies too.
Hopefully something good comes out of this.
Businesses want the ability to side-load apps also. And I'd love to be able to play with my phone by making apps that I have no intention of trying to sell or market.
Otherwise... well, at least they got a T-shirt.
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cstrife999 8 hours ago in reply to Sang Noir
Seriously this is nothing short of a PR stunt. I would bet my bottom dollar that behind the scenes things are moving differently.
Are you this guy on Engadget?
Yep vetvito, it's me again. Calling you out on your negativity towards WP7.
I know public discourse is encouraged here but public discourse that's always negative is kinda annoying.
This is an awesome move by MS. Some other companies would've ambushed them with lawyers once they were behind closed doors.
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What the hell is endgagdet? Who said anything negative?
Anyway, more security is all I see coming.
More awesomeness.
Brandon Watson just sent a tweet to Geohot offering him a WP7 Phone so that he could "build cool stuff" and "let dev creativity flourish."
you think microsoft is that good
they're doing a bit more
http://wmpoweruser.com/geohot-threatens-to-buy-a-windows-phone/
they are personally giving geohot a wp7 device FOR FREE
*claps* bravo microsoft!
unless, they're asking all hackers to plug in all conceivable holes which may lead to less options...
well geohot got more than a tshirt
I believe is going to try to figure out a proper way for people to make homebrew stuff for WP7. Proper meaning that there is some security that needs to go in but still let the developers do whatever they can. Is it walled? Yes, but it to some extent there needs to be security so that the people who are making applications for the marketplace don't get sh*tted on (aka piracy). Hopefully this happens. At least Microsoft is listening.
i believe microsoft is moving in the right direction. we still need to see results, but at least they're making it secure for the people who have no idea, but trying to open it up to those that actually understand what they're doing, and what the risks are for doing it.
Apple and Sony could really learn from MS... who knew that MS wasn't as backward as the media likes to make them out to be.
Brandon Watson and the MS WP7 team are incredibly insightful. Whether it's for PR or not, this is going to make WP7 look MUCH better in the eyes of the public (well, the non-Android and iPhone fanboys anyhow, but the fanboys don't matter anyways).
In the words of Admiral Ackbar.... ITS A TRAP
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What the hell is endgagdet? Who said anything negative?
Anyway, more security is all I see coming.
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I quit reading Engadget after seeing their Apple biased.
So do I, but I am sure that it is much more than that, I hope.
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I've worked for large corporations for the last 15 years, and what you said is complete and total bull****. Lawyers don't run the company, they're hired to try and *protect* the company from a lawsuit-happy public. Generally speaking, the people who run large corporations are no different from anyone else.
That said, yes, there are incidents of people becoming power-happy and thinking they can use the protection of a corporation to get away with damn near anything. And more often than not, those people are slapped down like the idiots they are, as they deserve. Meanwhile, the decent people at the company are left to pick up the pieces and try to save what face they can.
It's bad ideology to lump people so blindly into groups the way you just did. It's no different than using race or religion as a basis for discrimination, and you really should think a little more deeply and look at the overwhelming majority of GOOD people who run GOOD businesses rather than tripping into trite generalizations.
I believe MS see the reasoning behind giving their audience what they want. Even though Apple are PR geniouses, MS aren't stupid either. Think of all the programs that are "leaked" to "pirates" and never seem to stop working, even though the serial is openly exchanged. They may not play the media the way Hand Jobs does, but they sure know how to create hype by going the back way - letting power users and early adopters "find" their apps. Guess who really decides which applications and platforms to use. The management? Nah...It's the system administrators.
Back in the day I was told to install a server from RIM so we could test out their hand sets. The day before sending it back I did a half-assed install just to prove it wasn't working. Didn't even want to check if it was possible Think RIM got a foot inside even though the importer were best buddies with the CEO and were part of the board? Nah...
Same thing applies here. MS knows it, and they won't **** on their user base. That's the same reasoning as not releasing their lawyers on "pirates". In other words - not run by the lawyers, but actually keeping them on a pretty tight leash.
I have smart tools, most handy thing out of that is the compass basically.
So im asking, what are the best survival apps?
Im no conspiracy nut, but it doesn't take a genius to realize the earth is going through stuff it never has before.
Survival apps meaning:
Any guides (i already have the US army & Navy guides)
Any tools that utilizes the Epic's tech (i.e compass, solar wind activity)
If we do not already, someone needs to start coding some serious apps.
Also, if anyone knows of any good ad-hoc programs for when cell towers go down.
Having a nice shiny phone wont mean **** when the cell towers go down.
Take this seriously, please.
When the towers go down and all that madness starts happening, how do you plan on charging your shiny phone?
Edit: As snide a response as this is, I'm being serious. There's better ways to be prepared.
In all seriousness, anything a smartphone can do (assuming network infrastructure is kaput) is better done with a purpose built tool. If TSHTF, you really think a day or two of battery life is gonna cut it?
Better to get a standalone analog compass, a good set of maps, and a decent Yaesu HT ham radio. No reason to reinvent the wheel.
(Unless you want to play Angry Birds)
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When the towers go down and all that madness starts happening, how do you plan on charging your shiny phone?
Edit: As snide a response as this is, I'm being serious. There's better ways to be prepared.
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I just thanked you when i meant to quote lol, off to a great start. As for your "response", no ****.
**** hits the fan, you have a phone for 2-3 MAX, what apps are you gonna have that will help you?
You think i assume our Epics are gonna be solar charged or something?
So again, 2-3 days max...what apps are going to be the most helpful?
EDIT: If you're going to state the obvious (phone dying) then dont bother posting, im fully aware of
that as its the big pink elephant in the room.
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I just thanked you when i meant to quote lol, off to a great start. As for your "response", no ****.
**** hits the fan, you have a phone for 2-3 MAX, what apps are you gonna have that will help you?
You think i assume our Epics are gonna be solar charged or something?
So again, 2-3 days max...what apps are going to be the most helpful?
EDIT: If you're going to state the obvious (phone dying) then dont bother posting, im fully aware of
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It's okay. I'm thank-worthy. As much as I love technology and the cool things it can do... I wouldn't really bother. You're a lot better off learning basic things like first aid and having the head knowledge than being reliant on anything. Also, it's awfully optimistic to hope for more than 24 hours max if you ask me.
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It's okay. I'm thank-worthy. As much as I love technology and the cool things it can do... I wouldn't really bother. You're a lot better off learning basic things like first aid and having the head knowledge than being reliant on anything. Also, it's awfully optimistic to hope for more than 24 hours max if you ask me.
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Lol, you're an interesting fellow -- interesting is the nicest word I can think of at the moment.
I have everything else covered, dry meals, water filters, i have enough first aid kits to aid a village. I have much more aid that i wont list as it comes from ex-military friends, trust me when I say I have everything else covered.
So again, when TSHTF, what are the most useful apps?
I cant even believe im trying to explain to you the importance of having survival apps on your phone, feel like im taking crazy pills or something.
EDIT: and no, you are not thank worthy -- not even close. Please abandon the thread if you continue to think small small-mindedly, on the other hand
if you want to contribute, please do.
They have solar chargers for laptops which will hold over 10 full cellphone charges and require something like 10 hours of sunlight to get those 10 full charges. With them, you could charge your cell phone as fast as you could with a normal power adapter from the wall.
I think they also have $50 range solar chargers which would hold about 3-4 cell phone charges, and get your cell phone charged fully in 3-4 hours from sunlight or from the built-in battery.
I'll take a stab at a serious reply for ya...
Other than a compass, obviously... A GPS program with pre-downloaded maps might come in handy, something like Gaia GPS, perhaps, where you can get maps with hiking trails listed. I figure if something happens to take out the satellites, you probably wouldn't be around to worry about much else!
My app is called an AR15.
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My app is called an AR15.
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My app is called an AR15.
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So, let me get this straight. You shoot people to get directions?
Gotta love 'em rednecks.
Thanks Nabbed & Dalmus, will definitely look into both of those.
As for the others, the ignorance is amazing.
Ill list some of my own if anyone didnt already know about them:
BrightestFlashlight
U.S. Army Survival Guide
U.S. Navy Seal Training Guide (which i downloaded & loaded onto my phone w/ a pdf reader)
Boskoi (utilizes google maps (albeit if its still up) to show you ALL edible sources around you, nuts, fruits, berries, even fungi.
ICE: In Case of Emergence (shows you First & Local responders (police stations, hospitals) and also gives you information on allergies, specific medical conditions,
how to treat someone who is unconscious, ect.
Also remember, if you have some steel wool & enough tinder you can start a fire with your own battery.
Small-minded thinking gets you nowhere, open-minded with a dash of doubt is most important.
Not just outright "Oh you think you're phone will save you?"
No offense, but I'm not sure how this thread even belongs on the XDA forums...
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No offense, but I'm not sure how this thread even belongs on the XDA forums...
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No offense taken.
The right approach would be to think, wow we really do need some handy apps.
I'd code everything myself and not ask a single question but I obviously dont have that knowledge so instead I have to take a gamble, post on here -- & get nothing but ignorant responses.
Except for the few that get what im saying
Nabby & Dal <3
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No offense taken.
The right approach would be to think, wow we really do need some handy apps.
I'd code everything myself and not ask a single question but I obviously dont have that knowledge so instead I have to take a gamble, post on here -- & get nothing but ignorant responses.
Except for the few that get what im saying
Nabby & Dal <3
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I'm not sure how my post was ignorant at all, I was kind of thinking the same about this entire thread. This belongs somewhere, yes, but not here. At least take it over to the themes and apps section... And no I don't think we need apps of this kind. If I was worried about something happening, I'd get actual tools designed (and much better) to solve these problems than my cell phone.
you could smash the gorilla glass and use it to skin squirrels and cut paracord.
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So, let me get this straight. You shoot people to get directions?
Gotta love 'em rednecks.
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It's called a map and compass for directions. Gun to hold onto my shiny cell phone that I will wear around my neck as a trophy because that's all it will be good for.
If your really looking for a serious note on this and I am still confused why you'd rely on a cell phone when things go down but I'd get all the guides, local maps, points in interest I.e. police stations, military bases, hospitals and load them into PDF files then save them on your phone so you can have all the info ready. No cell reception required.
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It's called a map and compass for directions. Gun to hold onto my shiny cell phone that I will wear around my neck as a trophy because that's all it will be good for.
If your really looking for a serious note on this and I am still confused why you'd rely on a cell phone when things go down but I'd get all the guides, local maps, points in interest I.e. police stations, military bases, hospitals and load them into PDF files then save them on your phone so you can have all the info ready. No cell reception required.
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You'd be much better served with a glock. If you want to shoot bandits in the case of a national emergency, a handgun trumps the rifle.
Also, you seem to be confused, friend. If you are going up against a totalitarian government, then a rifle is a good choice. A handgun is much better in the case of riots. Your confusion seems to stem from the misinterpretation of the Second Amendment. You see, you can fight against injustice with a rifle, but a handgun is much more useful in case of civil disobedience.
I have to repeat these obvious truths 3 times over because rednecks really don't think for themselves.
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You'd be much better served with a glock. If you want to shoot bandits in the case of a national emergency, a handgun trumps the rifle.
Also, you seem to be confused, friend. If you are going up against a totalitarian government, then a rifle is a good choice. A handgun is much better in the case of riots. Your confusion seems to stem from the misinterpretation of the Second Amendment. You see, you can fight against injustice with a rifle, but a handgun is much more useful in case of civil disobedience.
I have to repeat these obvious truths 3 times over because rednecks really don't think for themselves.
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Lol your a tool box good sir. This thread went from worthless to just silly. Who is talking about fighting the government, riots or second amendment. Apparently your idea of $hit hitting the fan is way different then most. This went from joking around to you getting mad. Why so mad?
I'll make it even simpler, a pistol for CQB/CQD and a rifle for anything past that. Take your smugness somewhere else, it doesn't really add much here.
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Lol your a tool box good sir. This thread went from worthless to just silly. Who is talking about fighting the government, riots or second amendment. Apparently your idea of $hit hitting the fan is way different then most. This went from joking around to you getting mad. Why so mad? I
I'll make it even simpler, a pistol for CQB/CQD and a rifle for anything past that. Take your smugness somewhere else, it doesn't really add much here.
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I'm sorry but I didn't read what you wrote. I just pushed the Quote button.
But I digress. Let me give youa piece if advice, mr. Redneck. Go to your backyard immediately and dig a hole. Take that pos ar-15 and bury it in the hole. Then go to your favorite gun store and get yourself an ak.
QUOTE- "OPEN is a targeted, effective solution to the problem of foreign, rogue websites stealing from American artists and innovators," Issa said in a statement. "Today's Internet blackout has underscored the flawed approach taken by SOPA and PIPA to the real problem of intellectual property infringement. OPEN is a smarter way to protect taxpayers' rights while protecting the Internet."
http://www.keepthewebopen.com/
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscent...duced_in_the_us_house_of_representatives.html
Anyone who speaks legalese want to look this over and tell us if we need to fear this, or if this is a viable alternative to SOPA/PIPA??
Either way, we need to keep pressure on Congress to protect our 1st Amendment. Keep calling your State reps!!
Jesus Christ. Another one?
The music and movie industry has deeper pockets and more patience than we the people do. Eventually we will get tired of sending letters and signing petitions and these types of laws will get through. It's nice to know big business can buy...err, I mean help pass laws to deny us rights...err, I mean protect us from evil foreign enemies.
sopa means soup in spanish so ppl here make jokes like:
-a grandma says- "in my days sopa was a food" lol
Not agin, this is going to be annoying when they come up with another SOPA similar thing.
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Maybe we should start blacklisting/boycoting companies who urge to push these laws into reality don't you think so?
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Maybe we should start blacklisting/boycoting companies who urge to push these laws into reality don't you think so?
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We can start by boycotting the RIAA, MPAA, CBS, Disney, CNet, among others...this is just a tiny percentage of the companies backing SOPA/PIPA/OPEN.
I haven't had the chance to read over the OPEN Act; what about it makes it a better alternative to SOPA and PIPA?
Actually this piece of legislation was the one they were looking to get passed. There is a movement for something called 'Thick Whois'. The premise is that the owner of any new (and eventually old) website would be required to provide a form of ID to register a website. There is likely to goals behind this - one is to implement a national sales tax and the other is that they will now be able to more effectively target individuals.
If you combine the premise of 'Thick Whois' with OPEN, they could effectively choke the revenue stream of any one they target. This is a dangerous piece of legislation!
I WISH we could have SOPA sometimes just to get rid of all the stupid pics people post here (which are clearly violating copyright laws).
It should be noted that while SOPA and PIPA were steadfastly backed by the entertainment industry giants like the MPAA and RIAA, those groups vehemently oppose OPEN as not being strong enough. (See the Wikipedia article on the Online Protection and Enforcement of Digital Trade Act, which actually seems to spell OPEDT Act...)
I still don't think it's a good idea to try to police the Internet at all (since almost any moderately effective effort is going to involve censorship), but at least OPEN is less draconian than its predecessors.
OPEN leaves too many doors open to further limiting legislation
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It should be noted that while SOPA and PIPA were steadfastly backed by the entertainment industry giants like the MPAA and RIAA, those groups vehemently oppose OPEN as not being strong enough. (See the Wikipedia article on the Online Protection and Enforcement of Digital Trade Act, which actually seems to spell OPEDT Act...)
I still don't think it's a good idea to try to police the Internet at all (since almost any moderately effective effort is going to involve censorship), but at least OPEN is less draconian than its predecessors.
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In attempting to read it, and my ability to translate legal bs is limited, what I have "learned" is that it doesn't appear as intensive as SOPA/PIPA, but it seems to still leave the doors open for legislation later...and those O.P.E.N doors are what scare me. I do know that it is still backed by some of the big players from SOPA/PIPA, but they are complaining that it isn't tough enough. I am guessing they will take anything they can get though.
I have a real issue with my Constitutional rights getting changed or limited or revoked, just so some rich, fat cat, s.o.b working in Hollywood can further line his/her pockets
Getting tired of all these attempts to pass this mess entertainment industry is just about as bad as the Oil companies now, a politician in every pocket
But really time could be better spent on fixing over things in the nation that are far more in need
My opinion is that the entertainment industry needs to come up with SOMETHING that makes it worth going to the movies. The way I see it now, the bands that play the shows are actually working for their money instead of sitting there. The movie theaters need to come up with something that the average consumer can't afford or is too large. That would cut down on piracy. Thery're just lazy......
i want to know why the megaupload and filesonic are closed? if those sites are closed why xda is here? i love xda but just wonderig
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i want to know why the megaupload and filesonic are closed? if those sites are closed why xda is here? i love xda but just wonderig
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xda doesn't host any illegal downloads.
This is just my point of view. Music artistes and movie producers, actors etc should not be that concerned about piracy. For example, I watch a pirated movie online. After the movie, I realized that the acting of some actor is really good. Chances are, I world appreciate that actor more and appreciate his products more. Then, the actor has now one more fan and the probability of me catching one of his movies in the cinema would be higher as I would want to support him. Just my two cents
We fight against ACTA right now in Poland. I've never seen politicians lie so blatantly (I know, I was being naive) about things that you can check in one minute. I think they got some huge "gifts" for forcing ACTA on us because they never before stood so firmly against such opposition. In my opinion piracy is a business problem - you need to make people want to buy your staff even if they can pirate it for free any time - not prosecute them.
I wanted to go to cinema for Prometheus, The Hobbit and new Batman but right now I think I'm going to boycott them, I don't want to finance acts like ACTA/SOPA etc.
I don't know much about these acts, but all they made me do is hate our ****ed up government even more! Gah
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkai...t-sopa-was-bad-just-wait-until-you-meet-acta/
MORE BS!!
Just wondering if any of you sprint workers here can tell me some things about the tech positin. What to expect and what is usually done there. I got an interview tomorrow with them for a tech position, so i just wanted to find out the benefits of working for sprint. Any help will be greatly appreciated . Thank you.
Benefits of working at Sprint? That would be amazing customers like us here on XDA, what more could you hope for? lol
Good luck on your interview.
First off, #1 benefit is a $0 phone plan.
As far as the position goes, having experience rooting, flashing and just general understanding of Android will be the biggest thing. Followed by customer service (you can't be one of those closet nerds who can't talk to people) and lastly, third main task is handling inventory.
Honesty, most of the job is hard resetting Android phones since no one takes the time to understand their own phone. Also, learning the basics of Blackberries will help you a lot if you have no understanding of them going into it.
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First off, #1 benefit is a $0 phone plan.
As far as the position goes, having experience rooting, flashing and just general understanding of Android will be the biggest thing. Followed by customer service (you can't be one of those closet nerds who can't talk to people) and lastly, third main task is handling inventory.
Honesty, most of the job is hard resetting Android phones since no one takes the time to understand their own phone. Also, learning the basics of Blackberries will help you a lot if you have no understanding of them going into it.
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Totally agree with all of this. Plus, it helps to have a thick skin.
Good luck!
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So your going to work in a corporate store? or a 3rd party reatiler (often mistaken for retail stores), or deep in the bowls of sprint with fancy switches or tower sites?
Techie
I started as a tech in a preferred retailer, I am now the store manager. Some of the previous comments were on point, You will be dealing with mainly android phones, likely EVO 4G's. Knowing the in's and outs of an android device is the best route. Having a general understanding of Blackberries is helpful. The hardest devices are the iden/nextel devices. They are a pain in the ass to work on. Having solid customer service and the ability to understand and empathize with your customer is key. You will get alot of angry people who say something like, " I have been with sprint for so many years, and I have 4 lines and my bill is $200/month, give me what I want!" The inital response is to say, "You and 40 million others too" Point being is that you have to be thick skinned and not take it personal. The best advice I can give, is to BACK UP CONTACTS prior to doing any work on the phone. Android makes it easy, export them to the SD. Blackberry, run a backup on desktop manager, other devices, make a backup using the cellbrite. The goal of a repair center is to repair first, triage second, and exchange as a last resort. Learning how to actually open up a phone and replace parts and assess whats liquid damage and whats fixable just comes with experience and it isn't generally something you can learn about ahead of time. Please PM me is you have some specific quesitons, I've dealt with the good, the bad and the ugly in my location. It's a tough job, but can be really fun if your a geek. It's the ultimate geek job.
Best advice I can give is to learn how to not take crap from anyone. Customers will do anything and everything to get something for free. The customer is not always right.
Memorize anything you can about Sprint phones. Settings, hard reset buttons, tweaks, etc. The more you can do from memory without having to look it up, the better off you'll be.
Yes. And I cannot emphasize enough that you will be dealing with some of the angriest people you might ever encounter. Nothing equals the rage of some random corporate big head who might face a day without their mobile device. They are out for blood. No matter how courteous and understanding you could possibly be.
Make sure to have thick skin and learn the eccentricities of passive aggressive conversation.
Many inconsiderate, ignorant, and inept employees in your prospective position, have soured the public towards cellular employees.
A bad experience on the phone or at another location will mightily influence the attitudes of customers that you serve face to face. So you might spend 90% of your time fixing the wrongs of some idiot who doesn't care. (Usually from call centers, but other customer facing locations as well.)
It can be a very amazing position. Frequently gratifying by helping a less technically knowledgable person through the varying issues they encounter. But many bad apples are to be prepared for.
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Yes. And I cannot emphasize enough that you will be dealing with some of the angriest people you might ever encounter. Nothing equals the rage of some random corporate big head who might face a day without their mobile device. They are out for blood. No matter how courteous and understanding you could possibly be.
Make sure to have thick skin and learn the eccentricities of passive aggressive conversation.
Many inconsiderate, ignorant, and inept employees in your prospective position, have soured the public towards cellular employees.
A bad experience on the phone or at another location will mightily influence the attitudes of customers that you serve face to face. So you might spend 90% of your time fixing the wrongs of some idiot who doesn't care. (Usually from call centers, but other customer facing locations as well.)
It can be a very amazing position. Frequently gratifying by helping a less technically knowledgable person through the varying issues they encounter. But many bad apples are to be prepared for.
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Your going to scare him off! Good techs are hard to come by. While the above is correct, you may get yelled at for something that happened at another sprint store, but because your shirt says Sprint, you are the person getting it. Don't take it personal and do the best you can to help them. While I've dealt with plenty of upset people, I've also dealt with tons of people have thrive on the knowledge that I have of the android operating system, and really enjoy learning about something new. Other customers just want to learn the basics and be on their way. Find out the customers needs and address those needs.
I had an interview for sprint customer service rep today actually. Would have gotten the job but I didn't like the schedule. they gave me 2pm to 3am. Reapplying in a few months Because the job pays very good money and seems fun IMO.
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They should get paid good money, customer care reps get smashed on by sprint customers.
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I started as a tech in a preferred retailer, I am now the store manager. Some of the previous comments were on point, You will be dealing with mainly android phones, likely EVO 4G's. Knowing the in's and outs of an android device is the best route. Having a general understanding of Blackberries is helpful. The hardest devices are the iden/nextel devices. They are a pain in the ass to work on. Having solid customer service and the ability to understand and empathize with your customer is key. You will get alot of angry people who say something like, " I have been with sprint for so many years, and I have 4 lines and my bill is $200/month, give me what I want!" The inital response is to say, "You and 40 million others too" Point being is that you have to be thick skinned and not take it personal. The best advice I can give, is to BACK UP CONTACTS prior to doing any work on the phone. Android makes it easy, export them to the SD. Blackberry, run a backup on desktop manager, other devices, make a backup using the cellbrite. The goal of a repair center is to repair first, triage second, and exchange as a last resort. Learning how to actually open up a phone and replace parts and assess whats liquid damage and whats fixable just comes with experience and it isn't generally something you can learn about ahead of time. Please PM me is you have some specific quesitons, I've dealt with the good, the bad and the ugly in my location. It's a tough job, but can be really fun if your a geek. It's the ultimate geek job.
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Thank you so much man I really appreciate that I'll definitely pm . Thank you all for replying so fast. I'm really excited about his job because I've been working on the customer service jobs all my life. Right now I'm working at a dealership so I know what to expect from a few customers. And as far as android system goes
I'm really comfortable with it. I know how to root and flash and the basics so thats covered for me. Ya'll should of seen the faces of some of the employees there when i pulled out my E4GT with the ics rom it was pricesless lol. Wow the benefits sound really freaking awesome!! I think is a retail store. And is a tech position like helping people out with their phone probs. The only thing worrying me is blackbarry since I heavent had any of those phones. Good thing there is always room for learning . Ones again thank you all
Nextel blackberries are the worst, but whoever trains you will teach what you need to know. You won't get thrown to wolves upon hiring. There are alot of training courses. You won't deal to much with root, only when you see a rooted phone that won't activate. Good Luck let us know how it goes.
tomaro is my final in training, or my initial 90 days. in fact, my manager made me a new name tag without the in training
whoever mentioned knowing the basics of blackberry has it right. i know EVERYTHING about android, and an sufficient amount about iOS, but let me tell you, my first 20 tickets were all blackberries with problems like JVM errors and no gps lock...those being so hard i mainly just exchanged -_- then again, even with the easiest question "how do i turn wifi on" threw me off. its like i didt even know blackberies exsisted before i was hired at sprint. lmfao but thankfully one of my coworkers is a major RIM guy so hes since taught me the ropes
one more thing on the blackberry front...is it just me or do they taking FOREVER to boot??? it gets akward after the first 5 minutes and im shouting from behind the glass....half way there, imma fix it, dont worry! lol
however. whoever said you wont get thrown to the wolves is trippin, yo. they stripped me naked, powdered me with sea salt and threw me into the fire. i dont ****in know how to change an evo speaker!
bETTER FIGURE IT OUT QUICK, WE TOLD HER YOUD bE DONE IN 15 MINUTES (youtube the rescue)
i have since learned the ropes and have really proven myself. my manager is hiring me on for 2$ more than i asked for, plus commission on the NASCcalander, and awesome benefits. ive drastically brought up our overall csats, and my personal csat and ready now is always at 100%. my first months AE budget was blown out of the water, but the past two months have been well below what they expected.
all in in all id say you need to know how to work blackberry desktop manager, the hard key reset for the entire line up, and youd better pick up a soldering gun 'cas those evo charging ports dont last a lick.
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tomaro is my final in training, or my initial 90 days. in fact, my manager made me a new name tag without the in training
whoever mentioned knowing the basics of blackberry has it right. i know EVERYTHING about android, and an sufficient amount about iOS, but let me tell you, my first 20 tickets were all blackberries with problems like JVM errors and no gps lock...those being so hard i mainly just exchanged -_- then again, even with the easiest question "how do i turn wifi on" threw me off. its like i didt even know blackberies exsisted before i was hired at sprint. lmfao but thankfully one of my coworkers is a major RIM guy so hes since taught me the ropes
one more thing on the blackberry front...is it just me or do they taking FOREVER to boot??? it gets akward after the first 5 minutes and im shouting from behind the glass....half way there, imma fix it, dont worry! lol
however. whoever said you wont get thrown to the wolves is trippin, yo. they stripped me naked, powdered me with sea salt and threw me into the fire. i dont ****in know how to change an evo speaker!
bETTER FIGURE IT OUT QUICK, WE TOLD HER YOUD bE DONE IN 15 MINUTES (youtube the rescue)
i have since learned the ropes and have really proven myself. my manager is hiring me on for 2$ more than i asked for, plus commission on the NASCcalander, and awesome benefits. ive drastically brought up our overall csats, and my personal csat and ready now is always at 100%. my first months AE budget was blown out of the water, but the past two months have been well below what they expected.
all in in all id say you need to know how to work blackberry desktop manager, the hard key reset for the entire line up, and youd better pick up a soldering gun 'cas those evo charging ports dont last a lick.
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Yeah, I hate the blackberry start up time!
Okay, I need to learn how to fix charging ports, is that on YouTube or somewhere else I can learn.
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I wanna job at a sprint store
In all seriousness I really do
But I need a high school deploma or a GED
Man I still have to wait till June to graduate and I'm willing to bet I can troubleshoot phones better than most sprint employees that don't come here
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Yeah, I hate the blackberry start up time!
Okay, I need to learn how to fix charging ports, is that on YouTube or somewhere else I can learn.
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Every EVO port I see is so totally ****ed theres no chance of saving it.
If the anchor legs break off you can forget about trying to fix it.
Im not sure why anyone thinks the Nextels are hard to fix? 90% or the time its swapping a front flip assembly or doing a master reset on the sim card.
Been a tech for 2 years now, its not a bad job like he said if you can spot the bull**** and keep the tough skin mentality...tons of people with the "Customer service said...." and then having to explain the TRUTH, get alot of the people who said they were told by CARE to bring their phone that fell into the toilet into me and I would replace it on the spot....not so much, call Asurrion....alot of that and replacing EVO speakers lol....its not bad at all....
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Every EVO port I see is so totally ****ed theres no chance of saving it.
If the anchor legs break off you can forget about trying to fix it.
Im not sure why anyone thinks the Nextels are hard to fix? 90% or the time its swapping a front flip assembly or doing a master reset on the sim card.
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Yea it's crazy how bad people destroy EVO charging ports. And screens. People with EVOs seem to take no care with their device.
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Yea it's crazy how bad people destroy EVO charging ports. And screens. People with EVOs seem to take no care with their device.
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It's a crying shame for those poor Evos.
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