So I have had the call echo issue for some time. Specifically once I started flashing ICS leaks left and right, but come to find out our issue is HARDWARE related rather than software related. To be clear this is a fix for the caller echo issue where the person you are talking to on the phone hears their own voice echoing back to them.
This thread pretty much sums up the whole thing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441510
Cliff notes: There is a speaker that has come loose in your phone either from some suspect glue, or perhaps even a rough tumble if you've dropped your phone once or twice. Once this happens, the nearby NC (noise cancellation) microphone picks it up and the call echo follows.
The fix here is very simple, you just need to unscrew the 6 tiny screws (careful not to strip them, and remove and reinstall them in the same order) and then pop off the casing that protects your T-989's innards. While the thread (and pics) above are for the international Galaxy SII, the important part at the top that needs to be covered (the speaker) is the same.
I tried the fix without really doing anything except removing the casing, cutting a small sliver of an old business card to put on top of the speaker, and closing and screwing the case back on. Didn't mess with anything else, and the fix works great. I called a couple people before I reinstalled the screws and I encourage everyone to make a test call to make sure the echo is gone before putting everything back together.
This is a really simple/easy fix to get rid of the call echo, and it explains while some people have the echo with/without a case and to varying degrees. But I'm now enjoying Racing's UCLD ICS Rom with no call echo and all is right in the world.
If anyone needs anymore help just let me know, and those of you that have the echo and try this please report back.
Interesting..... tho I do not have the dreaded call echo, this makes sense because I never dropped my phone. . I know what to do now if I have the problem tho!
Thanks forbthe saceifice my question is tjis: if itsbhardware, then why is it that i dont get the same issue when running non-ics roms. It seems to me that running a non sgh-t989 ics ported rom is the issue. While some of us have been lucky, its happened to me with every ics ported rom but never with gb or aosp roms(eugene cm7 kang). ??? On a side note, if thats what it takes ro fix it, im more than willing to wait for ics for our phone than possibly break something and void my warranty. Also, ive used a case and also havent and have dropped my phone a few times. I would like to see other confirmed reports of people trying this.
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This is a software issue not a hardware issue since in gb I get no echo
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defconoi said:
This is a software issue not a hardware issue since in gb I get no echo
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Yea I second that! Hardware issue
Makes no since.it works great on gb Roms. Nice thought through. But I gotta say Epic Fail!!
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Make sense why some users never experience it and others do no matter what they flash.
I am thinking Samsung obviously must have adjusted the noise cancellation mic sensitivity or settings with ICS. It could also be the ICS framework with the way it handles it or maybe the RIL (radio interface layer) of the ICS roms.
Either way it makes a lot of sense especially if so many dont experience the issue on any rom while others it is every ICS rom.
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Yea I second that! Hardware issue
Makes no since.it works great on gb Roms. Nice thought through. But I gotta say Epic Fail!!
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Not an epic fail if he beat the call echo issue. Its quite a macguyver type fix but it did the trick. I would rather wait for it to be fixed on the software side myself, however.
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This is a software issue not a hardware issue since in gb I get no echo
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+1 I think this thread should be for pple who has dropped they're phone some physical damage or something like that because it can just be a software issue
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Make sense why some users never experience it and others do no matter what they flash.
I am thinking Samsung obviously must have adjusted the noise cancellation mic sensitivity or settings with ICS. It could also be the ICS framework with the way it handles it or maybe the RIL (radio interface layer) of the ICS roms.
Either way it makes a lot of sense especially if so many dont experience the issue on any rom while others it is every ICS rom.
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Thats true or it could be that we don't have a official ics modem +Ics rom it could be interfering some how
Call echo only happens with volume up all the way. If u put in call volume to medium-low it isn't noticeable. Call ur cell from a landline and blow into the mic on landline phone, if it repeats back lower volume and repeat until u don't hear it. What's happening is the headset speaker is too loud and the other mic is picking it up at the top
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Call echo only happens with volume up all the way. If u put in call volume to medium-low it isn't noticeable. Call ur cell from a landline and blow into the mic on landline phone, if it repeats back lower volume and repeat until u don't hear it. What's happening is the headset speaker is too loud and the other mic is picking it up at the top
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That may not be best for pple in the city with low call volume i know they would want to be able to actually hear the person outside you know
im a little scared to pull my phone apart too. I think i'll wait for a software fix
well i never dropped my phone but i do have that issue with ICS and GB!!! when im on ICS my friends says that there is an echo when im on GB they say they can hear me wierd, and when i take the case off they say its a little bit better. so i do think its a hardware issue!!
in the other hand my friend that works at tmobile says that he had heard this issue with all of tmobile phones not just this one
Thanks for the replies guys, good discussion on this topic so far.
I agree this is definitely a "macguyver" type fix, but hey if it works it works. I've been daily driving Racing's various ICS ports since the initial leak in SPITE of the caller echo issue (I just talked to everyone on speakerphone lol) so this is really welcome news to me.
As far as damaging your phone, IMHO hacking the phone and installing Rom's is just as potentially dangerous (if not more so) than taking out 6 tiny screws out and inserting a small piece of paper underneath the casing, but its everyones decision if they want to try or not.
I have verified with 4 different callers and tested myself that the fix works for me WITHOUT a case. When I put the D30 case back on my phone there is still echo. Not as bad as before, but its definitely there.
So rolling with no case is kinda annoying but I was thinking of getting an extended battery anyways so this just makes it easier
FWIW I tried this fix and still get call echo... Slightly reduced maybe but definitely still there.
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FWIW I tried this fix and still get call echo... Slightly reduced maybe but definitely still there.
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Interesting do you have a case on your T989? Are you on a GB rom or an ICS leak?
Did you use a business card or just a thin piece of paper? Sorry about all the questions just trying to get as much info as possible from people experiencing this issue.
I also ONLY had the call echo issue when I flashed an ICS rom (and I had the call echo on all 3 of them), however when I went back to STOCK Gingerbread it went away. So maybe this issue is part software/part hardware?
The ICS leaks were the first roms I ever flashed, so I'm interested to know if ANYONE has the call echo on STOCK Gingerbread? I'm thinking that something in ICS increases the gain or does something to either the NC microphone or the speaker somehow?
Happened only on ICS Roms with and without case. GB Roms are ok. Used a business card.
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c130pilot said:
Happened only on ICS Roms with and without case. GB Roms are ok. Used a business card.
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Bummer man sorry to hear
If it is a "little" bit better with the business card in there you could try to maybe fold it over and make it a bit thicker? If it helps even a little bit maybe there is some potential there to fix it?
where are the noise cancellation files in the ics leak?
my experience from today... i went back to 100% stuck and still had echo.. not as bad with an ics rom.. but my girlfriend had told me that she was hearing it so i took off the cover and she says that it was better. so i kept talking to her and then she said the she hears an echo again so i started to talk more into the mic.. and it was gone. so i do believe its a hardware issue and its when my mouth is not close enough to the mic is when others hear an echo.. ok then again i rooted the phone and flash ics megamix on it so i gave my phone to my girlfriend to see if i can hear an echo.. so when she was holding the phone correctly i didnt heard it but when she put the phone in her shoulder and to hold it there while she talks i hear the echo.. so tell me if this a software or hardware issue.. i think it have something to do with the surrounding and how laud you talk to the person
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Hey fellow XDA's, I know that a lot of people are having issues with the call audio bug or echo in the current ICS Skyrocket ports. I recall reading somewhere of a possible solution and just thought I would make a thread for it here. If this is not the right place or if there is a better place please let me know. Anyways, here it is:
While in call, tap the menu button and disable noise cancelation. Seems to work for me every time.
If this seems worthy of a thanks, please give one!
That never worked for me, my only solution was to remove the case I was using. Without a case on the device, it worked fine.
There was also no echo with speakerphone on. Or bluetooth. The very moment I switched to cm7 the echoing stopped completely.
Case = call echoing. I even cut into the rubber near the mic and everything, somehow on ics, sound travels thru ur case and back into the mic.. It's beyond confusing to me
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Hey fellow XDA's, I know that a lot of people are having issues with the call audio bug or echo in the current ICS Skyrocket ports. I recall reading somewhere of a possible solution and just thought I would make a thread for it here. If this is not the right place or if there is a better place please let me know. Anyways, here it is:
While in call, tap the menu button and disable noise cancelation. Seems to work for me every time.
If this seems worthy of a thanks, please give one!
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I am having a problem too when people I talk to hear an echo. I read your solution before and it didnt helped me at all, and I dont have a case for this phone anyways so o know it is not a case causing it
now im back to gingerbread because of that bug. I wish somebody can really bypass this bug
For the majority of people (myself included) having/not having a case doesn't have any effect on this phone.
Also the the noise reduction feature helps somewhat but even with it turned on, people I'm talking to can still hear their voice echo unfortunately. I'm sure the devs are working on it as we speak so I'm sure there will be a workaround at some point!
Darmokk said:
For the majority of people (myself included) having/not having a case doesn't have any effect on this phone.
Also the the noise reduction feature helps somewhat but even with it turned on, people I'm talking to can still hear their voice echo unfortunately. I'm sure the devs are working on it as we speak so I'm sure there will be a workaround at some point!
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Perhaps ^^ that was a typo but I said that turning noise cancellation OFF helped. Not turning it on...
Also, in regards to the case being at fault, I am sure that my experience and finding has nothing to do with a case, it is a shame that we all have the same phone but my phone seems to be unique in the sense that turning off the noise cancelation completely fixes my call issue. strange.
This did not help.
Also a headset microphone didn't help either. idk
back to GB.
Doesn't work for me but with the blaze modem I do have an improvment not 100% better but I it is an improvement
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There is definately a case issue...when i was on stock rom with case people would complain about the echo and while in call i could take off the case and callers would report that the exho was gone.
Now on the ics roms there is a new bug where the echo is present even without a case. I flashed the blaze modem and all seems to be well now.
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Hi,
i just bought the case and soon after, the person i am talking to complain of hearing echoes of their own voices.
i tested this by calling some robot (topup service or something) and tried to listen from the mic side.. and guess what, i can hear its voice quite clear here! i guess the sound from the speaker travelled too damn well through the case, and eventually coming out from the mic port.
have anyone else noticed thsi problem? do share pls..
Haven't come across this from anyone on the AT & T forums. I ordered mine yesterday and will report back when I get it installed to try and replicate this issue.
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Mine is fine.
Been using this case since last Saturday and no issue on echoes.
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Haven't come across this from anyone on the AT & T forums. I ordered mine yesterday and will report back when I get it installed to try and replicate this issue.
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thanks. pls do report.
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Mine is fine.
Been using this case since last Saturday and no issue on echoes.
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hmm weird. i actually thinking it is unlikely not to have echos due to its very design. did u use max volume for call? or myb silly me just installed it wrongly? demm..
I just got mine and no echo. Maybe a network issue?
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fyrogenesis said:
thanks. pls do report.
hmm weird. i actually thinking it is unlikely not to have echos due to its very design. did u use max volume for call? or myb silly me just installed it wrongly? demm..
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Yezza. Full max volume for call. Try to reinstalled ur case n test agaon.
In the echo still persists, might be network since ur on maxis n im on celcom.
i tried using it without the case, and no echoes detected (i tested it by using another phone, calling to my note), so i am certain the case is the culprit. installing it again does nothing to help.
ah well, i guess i had gotten myself a defective unit somehow, or my callers are just annoyingly *****y. Interestingly, google also reported that this issue existed on iphone 4 otterbox defender...
You are not the only one having problems!
I am experiencing the very same problem. Callers hearing their own voice echoing back even at the minimum sound level on my device... The case somehow causes echoing.. very annoying.. I've been called 3 times by different people tonight right after I switched to Defender.. each person called me three times thinking that there must be something wrong with their phone.. Was it their phone??? No! It was Defender causing problems..
Will I in the end give up using this case? I doubt it. Paid too friggin much to dump it.. Is it annoying? F.ck yes!
PrimaryMaster said:
You are not the only one having problems!
I am experiencing the very same problem. Callers hearing their own voice echoing back even at the minimum sound level on my device... The case somehow causes echoing.. very annoying.. I've been called 3 times by different people tonight right after I switched to Defender.. each person called me three times thinking that there must be something wrong with their phone.. Was it their phone??? No! It was Defender causing problems..
Will I in the end give up using this case? I doubt it. Paid too friggin much to dump it.. Is it annoying? F.ck yes!
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Hope this isn't too late for you, but I managed to get rid of the issue on my note 2: maybe this will help you guys out, too:
http://blog.efpophis.net/2013/05/fixing-otterbox-echo-phenomenon.html
ssewk2x said:
Hope this isn't too late for you, but I managed to get rid of the issue on my note 2: maybe this will help you guys out, too:
http://blog.efpophis.net/2013/05/fixing-otterbox-echo-phenomenon.html
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Hi,
I hope you read this. Wanted to thank you.
I had rigged mine with some tape before I read your guide and it worked half assed.. there was still some noticeable echo..
I'll try the ear foam method asap and let you know if it works any better..
So I acquired a ET4G the other day from a friend who had dropped it in some water. He did an insurance claim so he has his new one and gave me this one to play with. Everything works fine except the mic and the notification light was stuck on. This is more of a curiosity project than anything else.
I completely disassembled and cleaned the circuit board and contacts. Now the notification light works properly and the mic works when recording video.
There is no mic in skype, calls, searching, anything except video recording that I've tested so far.
Sooo, Does video recording use a separate mic , if not does anyone have any ideas? It's running CM9 right now but shouldn't make a difference.
To my knowledge its the same mic. I would try using odin to flash the el26 kernel with cwm5 by acs. Then using that to flash an el29 build rom. Such as calkulin 3.0. Just to make sure whatever your friend had on there is stock of latest release. That wat if there is problems you know for sure its not software related.
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Alright, Went back to stock, flashed Calk 3.0 still no good.
So I don't believe that it is a software issue. I can fully accept that it is fried, water and electronics just don't mix. I just don't understand it working for video recording but nothing else.
I think the are three mics on the board, I'd guess the main one at the bottom for calls is shot. It's possible it could be replaced if you can get it off, then with some smd paste and a heat gun you could put a new one on.
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Interesting, I wasn't aware of this. Far too much work for a phone that cant be hooked up anyways. Although it would be kind of fun to see if I could swap Mics.
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He did an insurance claim so he has his new one and gave me this one to play with.
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I don't get it... how'd he get to keep the 'broken' phone?
Sprint definatley took mine..
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Mike check one two one two.. Lol sorry had too.
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I don't get it... how'd he get to keep the 'broken' phone?
Sprint definatley took mine..
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I believe he said that he lost it, they asked him if he wanted to GPS track it and he said no. Paid the deductible and they mailed him a new one. That's why I am not to worried about fixing it, has a bad ESN anyways.
I received a T989 as an insurance replacement for my old T959 Vibrant. I love this phone.
However, it seems that no matter what firmware I run, I have microphone issues. I have tried noise suppression on and off for every rom I have tried.
I have found that if I hold the phone right up to my mouth, it will sound fine for the person on the other end of the call, but by doing this, I have the earpiece further away from my ear, and it is hard for me to hear the other person on the call.
I got lucky a on a few roms where it seemed like the issue went away, but as I updated, it would resurface. Going back to roms that have worked before result in the issue as well. I suppose that if I had it working fine, I should have left it alone, but the call to flash is too great to resist.
While using the speakerphone, the mic works perfectly and picks up what I am saying crystal clear, although my wife sometimes complains of an echo, but that is most likely due to the location of the noise suppression mic on the top of the phone that is so close to the earpiece speaker. Why would the phone mic work great on speakerphone but like crap on normal calls?
Is there a way to increase the sensitivity of the normal mic while using the phone for normal calls? Would it somehow be possible to switch the profile mode of the mic to think it is on speakerphone when it really isn't? Is this more of a hardware issue than a rom/kernel problem?
Should I just call up asurian and ***** about it and have them replace it? I have only had it since the beginning of August, but I think they only give you a 30 day warranty on the replacement that they send out. I really don't want to have to shell out any more cash to replace it again, especially if it is going to cost another $130.
Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks for any and all help.
Nevermind.
It turns out the warranty for the replacement is longer than I thought, so I am getting it exchanged. The only catch is that since it has been over 30 days since the original exchange, there is a $5 warranty fee, but that isn't too bad.
Surprisingly, the rep said that the manufacturer has not listed this issue as a defect...funny, considering there are plenty of people on this board who would disagree.
If you changed your pic, the phone would've worked....
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If you changed your pic, the phone would've worked....
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wow, there aren't not too many okies around here that don't like the Thunder. I'm from chicago and have lived here for 3 years and I like them (even if the Bulls are the team I grew up with). I was spoiled during the Jordan era.
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wow, there aren't not too many okies around here that don't like the Thunder. I'm from chicago and have lived here for 3 years and I like them (even if the Bulls are the team I grew up with). I was spoiled during the Jordan era.
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Weird dude. I was born in elk grove and lived in roselle. Go cubbies!
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Weird dude. I was born in elk grove and lived in roselle. Go cubbies!
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Small world. I grew up in Rockford...yeah yeah, a little further NW than Elk Grove, but still.
And yes, the north side is the only side.
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did changing out phone fix this problem? i processed a warranty on my t989 and got another t989. same problem here with new phone now. no mic audio unless speakerphone or headset. wierd thing is it did work a couple times intermittently but now nothing no matter what i do. different roms. nothing.
I have an issue: I've noticed that there is the odd popping sound on every video I take. It isn't a constant pop-pop-pop, but just every so often at random. But it is present on every video I've taken so far.
Wondering if anyone else has the same issue? Any suggestions?
I am running stock with the Perseus kernel.
Thanks!
I had this happen once. I thought the wind was blowing on the mic.
Do you happen to have a case on your phone? There might be something that taps the case and might be picked up by the speaker as a pop.
Rings, long nails, keys, I don't know the list could go on.
~PsyCl0ne
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Yes, I do have a soft-shell case. I thought it might be that too, but I took it off and did some test filming and got the same result. This is really starting to tick me off now; I've had the phone for 5 or 6 weeks now and have only noticed this. What a pain!
I have also done voice recording using a voice recorder app, and no problems with that.
I tried a different camera app and the videos still have the popping.
No other suggestions?
Ok, just linking a video so you can hear what I'm talking about, in case it triggers something in someone's brain....
Again, this has happened on stock, as well as CleanRom. Different camera apps used. I've tried with data off. I've tried with SD card out. I've lowered system volume to zero. I've removed the case. There is no such issue when speaking on the phone, nor is it present when using a voice recorder app.
Everything else about the phone is perfect, but I'm ready to smash it to bits over this, I'm so pissed off. :silly:
http://youtu.be/mqvavNARGZU
Maybe your hand?
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Nope. Hold the phone by the side. But just to be sure, I've let it sit on its own on the table and same thing.
Mine made that same sound only one time. It was during the inning when my son(5yrs) got 3 unassisted outs. Pissed me off
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To narrow down a software VS hardware issue, the first thing you'll want to do is restore to stock. No root, no kernel, no nuffin. If the issue persists, that is usually a purdy good indicator of a hardware issue. Should that be the case, a warranty replacement may be your best option. If the issue persists after a replacement, I'd say its a good bet its something in your environment/situation that is causing the popping.
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To narrow down a software VS hardware issue, the first thing you'll want to do is restore to stock. No root, no kernel, no nuffin. If the issue persists, that is usually a purdy good indicator of a hardware issue. Should that be the case, a warranty replacement may be your best option. If the issue persists after a replacement, I'd say its a good bet its something in your environment/situation that is causing the popping.
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Thanks for that. Yes, at this point I've tried everything I can think of. I don't believe it has anything to do with environment or anything, as it happens all the time. It has been driving me batty for the last week; I've done nothing but obsess over it. I hadn't noticed it before, but once I had, I started looking at every video I've taken since I bought it and found that it has been going on the whole time. I got the phone at the end of January. One of the first vids I took was a cpl of days later, which I put on youtube. I checked that vid out and sure enough the issue is there.
I called Samsung yesterday and got a UPS shipping label from them to send it in. I'm not keen on having to do all the work to unroot and make like I never rooted it, lose it for up to 3 weeks, and (if they send a replacement back), lose the $30 I spent on my Zagg screen protector.
I guess I will try what you've said; restore to pure stock and pray to God. Thanks!
I've installed CM10 and the camera with it is flawless. Why do you think that is?
Sorry for bumping this up, but I've done all kinds of experimenting and have pretty much determined that it is solely a TW based issue.
But what I'd like to ask now is: using Snap Camera, I get the same result (popping noise). However, Snap Camera has a setting for "Use Alternate Mic", which, when I choose that, there is no popping. So the question is: does anyone know how I can make the stock camcorder use the 'alternate mic' like Snap Camera does?
I have no idea where that would be edited.
Please! Thanks!
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I've installed CM10 and the camera with it is flawless. Why do you think that is?
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Does the camera record stereo sound with cm10 too?