I pre-ordered the phone, should arrive sometime today. My question is about LTE. I live in ATL and is suppose to be one of the first cities to have LTE. If it does indeed work, if I flash to a custom rom when they are available, will we lose LTE? I'm coming from a photon and before that an EVO. On the EVO, I remember CM was just getting 4G to work. On the photon, I lost 4G when flashing a custom. Hope this makes sense to people lol
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I pre-ordered the phone, should arrive sometime today. My question is about LTE. I live in ATL and is suppose to be one of the first cities to have LTE. If it does indeed work, if I flash to a custom rom when they are available, will we lose LTE? I'm coming from a photon and before that an EVO. On the EVO, I remember CM was just getting 4G to work. On the photon, I lost 4G when flashing a custom. Hope this makes sense to people lol
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No you won't lose it.
Maybe not
I'm really not sure how LTE is implimented. It could come with a sim card of some kind, not really sure. Maybe someone who knows can chime in.
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I'm really not sure how LTE is implimented. It could come with a sim card of some kind, not really sure. Maybe someone who knows can chime in.
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It will have a SIM card, probably a micro SIM.
pastert33 said:
I pre-ordered the phone, should arrive sometime today. My question is about LTE. I live in ATL and is suppose to be one of the first cities to have LTE. If it does indeed work, if I flash to a custom rom when they are available, will we lose LTE? I'm coming from a photon and before that an EVO. On the EVO, I remember CM was just getting 4G to work. On the photon, I lost 4G when flashing a custom. Hope this makes sense to people lol
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The reason 4G is a problem on other phones is because those phones use proprietary drivers that the OEMs don't release. Being a Nexus all the source and drivers are available in AOSP so nothing has to be hacked or leaked to make 4G work. One of the many reasons to own a Nexus
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I'm really not sure how LTE is implimented. It could come with a sim card of some kind, not really sure. Maybe someone who knows can chime in.
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Yes sir. SIM Card required on Sprints LTE network.
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Yes sir. SIM Card required on Sprints LTE network.
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Where are you getting this info? There's no SIM card in Sprint's Gnex. None of my last 5 Sprint phones have had SIM cards either.
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Where are you getting this info? There's no SIM card in Sprint's Gnex. None of my last 5 Sprint phones have had SIM cards either.
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LTE runs off sim cards
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Where are you getting this info? There's no SIM card in Sprint's Gnex. None of my last 5 Sprint phones have had SIM cards either.
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Lol, you never owned an LTE device on Sprint yet have you?
Ok so if I were to get this phone on sprint...(someone stop me if Im derailing this thread) with it requiring a sim card for use on LTE, theoretically would I be able to use it in different countries, using the prepaid route?
There is no sim card.
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Is there any reason to put the new SIM card that came with my phone in? I put in the same one that I've been using for years (Dash->G1->G2->SGS2) and it works fine. 4G shows at the top of the screen. I haven't tried a speed test yet, but I'd bet I get 4G speeds the same way I did on my G2.
So, what good reason is there?
Right now, there is no reason. When the wifi calling becomes available it will require the new Sim.
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do you have some sort of sentimental connection to that sim? why not just use the new one to make sure yoour up to date?
Where did you guys find the new sim card? Is it in the plastic wrapper with the manual/user guide? I don't see it in the box and I haven't opened up the plastic wrapping the manual/user guide is wrapped in. Fyi I did buy my phone from a T-Mobile.
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Lucas155 said:
Is there any reason to put the new SIM card that came with my phone in? I put in the same one that I've been using for years (Dash->G1->G2->SGS2) and it works fine. 4G shows at the top of the screen. I haven't tried a speed test yet, but I'd bet I get 4G speeds the same way I did on my G2.
So, what good reason is there?
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I replaced my five yr old sim card with it because my old one seemingly caused some bad 3g data issues. I found this out by swapping sim cards with a friend who just signed with T-Mobile and an SGS2. I replaced my old one with the one that came with the SGS2 and now I'm not only seeing improved 3g speeds but also better call reception.
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Quick question, my sim is about 3 months old. Will it work with wifi calling when it is released or is the SIM in the box even more "updated" than a 3 month old sim?
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Quick question, my sim is about 3 months old. Will it work with wifi calling when it is released or is the SIM in the box even more "updated" than a 3 month old sim?
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No, the GS2 and Amaze 4G are the first phones to shop with the new sim cards.
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You need new Sim in order to get ota updates.
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You need new Sim in order to get ota updates.
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Are you sure about this? where Did you get this information? sounds a bit unrealistic that ota. Uupdates are tied to the sim in the box.
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Are you sure about this? where Did you get this information? sounds a bit unrealistic that ota. Uupdates are tied to the sim in the box.
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They aren't. They are tied to IMEI's. Two things you really need it for; 1. If you want to use WiFi calling after the maintenance update in a couple weeks, you will absolutely have to have this SIM card. No questions. It will not work. 2. After time, the older SIM cards will fail. This could lead to data access, call drop, sms sending/receiving and signal issues. If you have one now to activate, saves you a call and a trip to the local store for a replacement.
In the tmobile system we have 2 classifications of Sims. 2g (your dash) and 3g (hspa+).. make your conclusions
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Lucas155 said:
Is there any reason to put the new SIM card that came with my phone in? I put in the same one that I've been using for years (Dash->G1->G2->SGS2) and it works fine. 4G shows at the top of the screen. I haven't tried a speed test yet, but I'd bet I get 4G speeds the same way I did on my G2.
So, what good reason is there?
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Actually the new Sim is a completely new revision designed for the high speed 4g network. It also has the gold contacts in a different design which is part of it look at old and new Sims if you don't believe me. I forgot the name of the new Sim but its what was taught and explained for tmobile techs (tier 2 and up support). Also most stores do not have this Sim revision in yet so use the one supplied in your box. 90% of most tmobile employees have no idea about the new Sim and only guess when asked.
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In the tmobile system we have 2 classifications of Sims. 2g (your dash) and 3g (hspa+).. make your conclusions
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Your dash? The dash also later came in a 3g version. Also hspa+ is our 4g version and hspa is 3g.
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that 90% is a little exxagerrated.. we have trainings on the subject
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Actually the new Sim is a completely new revision designed for the high speed 4g network. It also has the gold contacts in a different design which is part of it look at old and new Sims if you don't believe me. I forgot the name of the new Sim but its what was taught and explained for tmobile techs (tier 2 support). Also most stores do not have this Sim revision in yet so use the one supplied in your box. 90% of most tmobile employees have no idea about the new Sim and only guess when asked.
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Not trying to be rude but your part of the 90% I was referring to.
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Yes but the similar supplied by the company during that time was our 2g sim.. the 3g sim didn't come till ppst-g1 era.. and still inventory of Sims were mixed
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Your dash? The dash also later came in a 3g version.
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How do you come to that conclusion.. the size and shape of the gold has changed multiple times over the last few years so your point is invalid.. TECHNICALLY the only difference with new Sims for our device and amaze is for the new WIFI calling network. As of Nov 12 wifi calling will not work on our phones with older sim cards
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Yes but those were different revisions and also had a different contact design. Please I am not arguing with you but I am correct on this matter.
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Lol OK lets not argue
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Yes but those were different revisions and also had a different contact design. Please I am not arguing with you but I am correct on this matter.
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How do you come to that conclusion.. the size and shape of the gold has changed multiple times over the last few years so your point is invalid.. TECHNICALLY the only difference with new Sims for our device and amaze is for the new WIFI calling network. As of Nov 12 wifi calling will not work on our phones with older sim cards
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I don't know what idiot told you that is all it was designed for and I doubt that was sent from us at corporate. What's your name T-Mobile associate? You can pm me and I will look it up tommorrow to show you what you should have learned correctly. Also per tmobile policy which you signed when hired you need to remove the tmobile associate title on your xda account credentials if you are a tmobile employee.
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So, as the titles says, I just trade my RAZR for a Galaxy Nexus with a friend. As far as activation goes, can we just swap micro sims or is there more involved?
And I'm hoping I'd be able to switch my insurance from RAZR to Nexus too, correct?
You also need to take it to a Verizon store or call their customer service to switch it over
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...sorry, just assumed you were VZW. If not, I believe the GSM version is able to just switch over by changing the sim
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You also need to take it to a Verizon store or call their customer service to switch it over
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...sorry, just assumed you were VZW. If not, I believe the GSM version is able to just switch over by changing the sim
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got ya, so swap sims then call *228? would that work?
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got ya, so swap sims then call *228? would that work?
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I was told that you could just swap the sims, and it should work, just like the GSM counterpart.
Do NOT dial *228 on your cell. It's only done on CDMA-Only devices, but the LTE Sim automatically updates PRL and other info.
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I was told that you could just swap the sims, and it should work, just like the GSM counterpart.
Do NOT dial *228 on your cell. It's only done on CDMA-Only devices, but the LTE Sim automatically updates PRL and other info.
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Oooo alright man, thanks!!
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Is the sprint version compatible with the Verizon network? With some unlocking or something?
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Nope.
Um.... can you elaborate on why? From what I saw they are very very similar just the carrier firmware/ is different
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Um.... can you elaborate on why? From what I saw they are very very similar just the carrier firmware/ is different
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The frequencies are different. And Verizon/Sprint won't activate phones of each other's networks anyway even if they were compatible.
So there is no way to change said frequencies? And thank you.
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Um.... can you elaborate on why? From what I saw they are very very similar just the carrier firmware/ is different
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I honestly haven't really looked into it, but as far as I know, the LTE/4G radio is different, but the CDMA radio should be the same. So, if you can find someone at Verizon that would be willing to activate a non-Verizon phone (extremely unlikely I would say), then you should be able to get regular, non-LTE Verizon service on a Sprint device, assuming the firmware was flashed properly. The guys in this thread have made some progress on CDMA devices.
you could, but you wouldn't have 4g. The same way you'd flash a verizon nexus to cricket, you'd flash it to sprint. There are already small mods out there to get a sprint g'nex to operate on verizons bands, so to me, that proves the hardware works. The only thing wierd about the sprint version is its embedded sim. Its worth a shot, but good luck getting anyone to do the leg work for you.
Interesting. I might have a few connections at Verizon Wireless retail stores. A friend of mine, his mother works at one. So I might be able to get her to activate it.
Its not as simple as just activating it. At Verizon, our 4g phones are activated by the sim, not the imei. If the sim is not in Verizon's system, it will give a sim validation error.
Even with 3g phones like the iPhone, if the imei is not in Verizon's system, it will give a device validation error.
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Its not as simple as just activating it. At Verizon, our 4g phones are activated by the sim, not the imei. If the sim is not in Verizon's system, it will give a sim validation error.
Even with 3g phones like the iPhone, if the imei is not in Verizon's system, it will give a device validation error.
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Your right. I was thinking the other way around.
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Interesting. I might have a few connections at Verizon Wireless retail stores. A friend of mine, his mother works at one. So I might be able to get her to activate it.
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Just... buy a Verizon model? Why would you take a Sprint model and gimp yourself to Verizon 3G, dealing with the hassle, when you can very simply and cheaply buy a Verizon one with LTE and absolutely no hassle.
I am currently on Verizon, with a Galaxy Nexus. I bought a Droid DNA off of eBay (really good deal), and want to know if I can just pop in my sim card, and go. I know the sizes are different, so I can use a sim cutter, and go to town on it. When I was checking the ESN with the Verizon rep, they said I would need to call to activate the phone. I've read on the interweb you can swap sims on 4G phones with no issue. So, much like everything on the interweb, there is conflicting information. What's the good word?
Actually both the DNA and gnex require micro sims, so it should fit right away. and yes, you can just pop in the sim and wait for it to recognize, but do it on the sense ROM before gaining s-off and flashing roms because I remember reading that cm doesn't have a certain file or something that prevents you from activating it when you run a custom ROM. Anyways, to answer your question yes
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Verizon would need to activate because they use cdma and only use approved devices on their network.
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Well Verizon exclusive devices like the droid DNA are pre-approved, and as long as it was sold by Verizon period, and is a 4g device, then you can swap sims all you want.
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Verizon would need to activate because they use cdma and only use approved devices on their network.
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But this seems to contradict what is on Verizon's own website:
http://support.verizonwireless.com/faqs/VZAccess/4g_sim_card.html
Can I use my Verizon Wireless 4G SIM in more than one device?
Yes; the Verizon Wireless 4G SIM card contains all of your subscriber information, so the SIM card is portable and can be used in any Verizon Wireless-certified 4G device. All usage will be billed to the account associated with the 4G SIM card.
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I'll find out for sure when my phone arrives in the mail, and I'll update this thread.
I took the Sim card from my wife's stratosphere and put it into my old droid charge and it worked just fine. All I had to do was wait for it to recognize the Sim.
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RhinoShock said:
Well Verizon exclusive devices like the droid DNA are pre-approved, and as long as it was sold by Verizon period, and is a 4g device, then you can swap sims all you want.
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I'm sure your right. I was just basing my answer on my years of sprint service. Never had Verizon 4g.
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ROORnNUGZ said:
I'm sure your right. I was just basing my answer on my years of sprint service. Never had Verizon 4g.
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Hahaha sprint.. I hate them.
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Lol me too.
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I left sprint for verizon a little over a year ago. I have had no remorse leaving. Not to get too far off topic, but the only real benefit to sprint is their unlimited data. But since you can't connect to their network, or it's slow as hell, what's the point?
tokuzumi said:
I left sprint for verizon a little over a year ago. I have had no remorse leaving. Not to get too far off topic, but the only real benefit to sprint is their unlimited data. But since you can't connect to their network, or it's slow as hell, what's the point?
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Yup. Agreed. I did the same thing. Lol.
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Got my phone today. Popped in the Verizon 4G sim from my Nexus, and my DNA read the service with no issues. I did not have to call Verizon to swap the phone.
tokuzumi said:
Got my phone today. Popped in the Verizon 4G sim from my Nexus, and my DNA read the service with no issues. I did not have to call Verizon to swap the phone.
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Ya see. Told u you would be OK.
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Im currently using my evo 3d on a sprint mvno that supports byop with sprint devices, and im considering getting the gs3 and i dont need to use lte just calling and text and maybe 3g, will i be able just to leave an old sprint sim card in there just so it won't say no sim, or even if I'm not using LTE I'll have to have an active lte sim in there?
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aryehzev said:
Im currently using my evo 3d on a sprint mvno that supports byop with sprint devices, and im considering getting the gs3 and i dont need to use lte just calling and text and maybe 3g, will i be able just to leave an old sprint sim card in there just so it won't say no sim, or even if I'm not using LTE I'll have to have an active lte sim in there?
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Umm....sprint phones don't use sim cards.
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As far as I know the sim is integrated in the board.
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As far as I know the sim is integrated in the board.
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O cool, its not like verizon that lte phones have sim cards?
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aryehzev said:
O cool, its not like verizon that lte phones have sim cards?
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The New LTE phones like the gs4, HTC one, and Nexus 5 actually do have an LTE sim card. Older LTE phones have it integrated.