Hi all, I was wondering how long my device would live for. I am a fairly intensive user and charge the phone from empty to full at least once and up to twice a day. This device is usually at a fairly high temperature (as you probably already know) and I was also wondering if the battery would be replaceable, as I plan to open it up and replace it in a year when the warranty runs out.
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If you're brave then you can open it. The battery has a connector on it so it is easily replaced assuming you can open the One X and also source a battery that is the correct size + shape.
If you're intending to replace the battery after 1 year then you should be fine. I don't know what the rating is exactly for the battery inside the One X but generally you're good for at least 300-500 full charge/discharge cycles. The battery will still work at this point but the available capacity will be reduced. If you can avoid it then you shouldn't completely drain the battery as that is worse for a Lithium Polymer battery.
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I'm just wondering... if I intend to keep my Incredible for a while, should I plan to replace the battery? Do these batteries wear out and if so, what's the typical lifespan?
I don't know a lot about battery but I supposed it depends on how you use it, charge it, heat/overheat, etc. My incredible is 13 months old and the battery is about the same, maybe. Just remember OEM batteries/parts is the best.
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I would agree with respect to sticking to factory/OEM batteries. I bought a second HTC extended battery when my first one seemed to be losing a charge faster than I thought it should. This was after about 14 months of hard use. However, I also bought an external charger which allows the battery to get fully charged to 100%, whereas I found that the phone was not charging it all the way up (most likely due to bogus values in the battery stats file). After rooting, installing Pete's BuglessBeast GPA19, and re-calibrating the battery I'm getting about 24-30 hours out of a single charge on both the new and the old battery...
Hello All,
I toke my HTC One X apart to replace the internal battery with a higher capacity one, as i've tried all the methods listed here to enhance my battery life, but it failed to survive a 12 hours idling - it seems that HTC forgot that the user might use his phone through the day -
anyway, i'm looking for an "INTERNAL" and "HIGHER-CAPACITY" like 2100mAh, 2400mAh battery to replace my 1800 mAh one, any suggestions please?
I don't believe that there is a higher capacity internal battery for the HOX. From what I've read on here is that any higher capacity battery would require the a bigger case for it. Just by opening it up you have now voided your warranty, and any third party manufacturer would not make you void your warranty to increase battery capacity. Your only option is to buy the cases that utilize the pogo pins to increase your battery
thanks for your reply teky, actually i dont care about the warranty, but i believe i can find a higher capacity battery as the iPhone one, i've bought a 2300 mAh from ebay for my old iphone and it was at the same size as its original one, the performance was amazing, it lasted about 2 days with a heavy usage.
Hossam.Abdelsalam said:
thanks for your reply teky, actually i dont care about the warranty, but i believe i can find a higher capacity battery as the iPhone one, i've bought a 2300 mAh from ebay for my old iphone and it was at the same size as its original one, the performance was amazing, it lasted about 2 days with a heavy usage.
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likeliness is, if it wasn't physically bigger, then the mah was no more than the original. probably the fact that the first battery was knackered and just buying a new one seemed like it was lasting longer, when in fact it wasn't lasting any longer than a new original battery..
btw, the battery in the 1x is soft...gg, how were u planning on replacing it.
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i need too an hi-capacity battery, but...is simply to remove the internal battery?
Be careful... A design flaw in the custom battery may cause it to explode.
Every battery I've read about online that promised higher capacity for the same size proved to be a fraud. The best story I saw was posted on the xda-dev forums. The user cut off the outer packaging of the battery to reveal the original battery inside, and printed on this was the real (much lower) capacity.
I don't know much about battery tech :silly:, as I'm about to prove but ... I believe it's basically a chemical reaction that releases power (and the reaction is revered when charging). The capacity of the battery is related to the volume of material available for the reaction, so basically physics is against us on this one.
If it seems too good to be true, it is. If technology were available to produce safe, cheap batteries, of the same size with a higher capacity, why doesn't a single large reputable manufacturer produce what would obviously be a lucrative accessory?
Are we not missing the point that his phone can't do 12 hours idling? My wife's currently very under used one x has managed 7 days and 10 hours from a single charge with 3g on almost zero screen on so true idle.
My used one x can easily make 2days of what I class as moderate use.
There must be some software issue or as Vodafone in Perth did a misconfigured network stopping 3g from going idle and sucking the battery dry.
Cheers
Steve
you can use the battery of the hox+ and get an extra 300mAh ...
but am going to take the batt of my spare one x and see if the battery of the htc butterfly s would fit... you get like an extra 1200mAh
hope it does....
Salim.Keady said:
you can use the battery of the hox+ and get an extra 300mAh ...
but am going to take the batt of my spare one x and see if the battery of the htc butterfly s would fit... you get like an extra 1200mAh
hope it does....
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Please make a thread about that, even if it doesn't fit. Battery life on my HOX is crippling, hardly get 2 hours screen time.
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Please make a thread about that, even if it doesn't fit. Battery life on my HOX is crippling, hardly get 2 hours screen time.
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Same here man but am currently busy with exams to see into this...
For now am using a cover battery 2200mah
And check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=258680.
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As most of the config are same is there any possibility we can port one x + battery in to our one x by changing the case or by using the same case. That's the only one I need from one x +
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forumhookersdotcom said:
As most of the config are same is there any possibility we can port one x + battery in to our one x by changing the case or by using the same case. That's the only one I need from one x +
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It depends. If the battery isn't the same size then no it isn't going to be possible as physically it will not fit.
Even if the same size, the charging circuit may not fully charge the battery so the extra capacity isn't realised easily in the current model.
Regards
Phil
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Even if the same size, the charging circuit may not fully charge the battery so the extra capacity isn't realised easily in the current model.
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That's not how battery charging works. It would charge fine.
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That's not how battery charging works. It would charge fine.
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Not if the maximum voltage for a full charge is different. Typically lithium ion charges to 4.1 to 4.2 volt depending on the battery and design, the lower full charge voltage will favour longevity over capacity, the higher voltage utilises the full capacity of the cell but stresses the cell more lowering it's life time.
If the HTC One X+ battery is designed to be pushed to a slightly higher voltage to achieve the higher capacity fully, and/or being allowed to drop to a lower voltage during it's duty to get the extra, then the charging circuitry in the HTC One X will not realise the full extra capacity, it will charge fine, but the extra capacity will not be seen.
If the max/min duty voltages are the same, then it will charge just fine to full capacity, assuming the data connections are identical between the cell and the phone that is. However in this case it is more likely the extra capacity is then achieved by a bigger battery, so it will not fit. The FCC information already shows a different placement arrangement for the antennas so the internals are arranged differently and what we are probably looking at is a slightly bigger battery.
Another issue if it fits and works is the charging will take longer. For safety the charging circuit in the phone has a safety timer calibrated to work with the original battery, if the charging takes longer than expected (as it would with the higher capacity battery) the charging is halted to avoid the potential for an explosion, so unless this timer is also changed, or is set automatically by data supplied from the inbuilt battery protection circuit, it might prove problematic charging the higher capacity battery, especially from flat to full, as the safety timer will terminate the charge before the battery is fully charged.
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Phil
I strongly suspect that the charge voltage is the same and any timer is unlikely to kick in as it will have plenty of headroom.
The difference is most likely due to physical size or perhaps an improved charge density.
We can order one x+ battery and case if it charges well and works good right . Are you sure it won't works ?
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I strongly suspect that the charge voltage is the same and any timer is unlikely to kick in as it will have plenty of headroom.
The difference is most likely due to physical size or perhaps an improved charge density.
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I have doubts that htc will make the battery interchangeable as they would suspect that one x owners would attempt a battery swap.
Anyhow the battery will not be, at least theoretically, interchangeable, as you aren't supposed to open the housing.
So that wouldn't be a worry.
Phil, what you say regarding a timer is total nonsense.... If u keep your phone plugged in and play a game in the meantime, charging can take also the whole day, because you're using the battery in the meantime.. BUT it is charging!! Charging does not interrupt after a specified amount of time..
What the phone, and also any other phone has, is a circuit which is stopping the charge when battery is full. How does it know the battery is full? This circuit is not in the phone but in the battery
Regarding the charging voltages and so - again nonsense... The voltage of a battery is fixed. It does not vary at all or if it does it is a measuring error. Nor does the charging voltage. This is again fixed.
(of course nothing is perfect, they can vary, but with 1% or even less, must be a tolerable error.)
When charging a battery what may vary and it depends on the charger is the electrical current's intensity (measured in amperes).
Putting a battery with a higher capacity in the phone will have the following results:
1. Longer battery life
2. Slower charge
But if the battery has the same voltage (and i think it does) it will work, and it will charge fully!!
Most probably htc is using the same voltage on all their phones...
If this is true, the only thing that could stop us from changing the battery will be the form factor of it....
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Charging lithium ion batteries is two phase; firstly, constant current, where the voltage is variable, and then constant voltage, where the current is variable.
Thx mate well still... From experience with other phones where i changed my battery- i don't think the charging process will be an issue... Usually a manufacturer uses the same process of charging with all phones or at least similar models.... I swapped li-ion batteries with li-pol and had no issue at all
So if form factor will be the same, in my opinion it will work!
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Let me know if any one tried swapping
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Bought my phone on Black Friday 2012, bought a spare battery about a year later, and now both batteries are virtually gone.
The (newer) battery has bloated significantly and is now officially retired. AFAICT it was completely original from Samsung, with NFC. The older one lets the phone go on only if it is charging, and then holds for maybe 3 hours of no or little usage.
I admit, I haven't followed the advice of keeping the battery between 20 - 80% charge, and other maintenance, so I'm willing to believe this is what was expected under the circumstances. Is it?
AFAIK there is no app that can display the true capacity of the battery. Is there by any chance a testing app that measures how long it takes to drain under a specified controlled workload, and hence find out, somewhat accurately, the capacity currently?
Now I wish to buy 2 external batteries + a external mains charger for it, and actually do some maintenance on it for its life. Is that advisable, or should I only charge a battery inside the phone?
Bump... no one?
Anybody can think of a battery that has more mah but same physical size as the one this device currently rocks? Would be awesome if we could fit the battery of the latest moto device but I believe that one is thinner.
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Swapping batteries in from other devices is a bad idea... Not only are they not likely to fit inside the case (check out some teardowns of the OP3) but the dash charge is calibrated for your battery, not for some other battery. Putting in a different capacity battery can cause some pretty hefty damage... Do some research into battery tech, these batteries generally have as much power capacity as physically possible based on the battery chemistry, you won't find a (legit) battery with a higher capacity of the same dimensions.
Remember those hoverboards that seemed to spontaneously ignite at random? more often than not it was due to poor wiring, faulty batteries, or being charged / discharged at a rate greater than what was designed for.
Give it a couple weeks / months I'm sure there will be a battery case developed for the OP3 but with how quickly this phone charges its designed to be topped up semi-regularly instead of charged once and run all day (or multiple days).
I've heard people say they are on transit for long periods of time and don't have access to a outlet, try looking for a battery bank to charge your phone if you feel the need...
And yeah, I wish they made the phone just a LITTLE thicker and put a larger battery in it. Really, I don't need a phone thin as a pancake, it could have been the same size as the OP2, ONE extra millimeter could fit more power, removed the silly "camera bump", and not impacted feel or ergonomics in any meaningful way.