i was looking for new roms for my girl's droid 2 global on rootzwiki the other day and found out about these AOSP ICS Gummy Roms. They're made by a pretty reputable team that includes JRummy (maker of the best root app Rom Toolbox) and they seem to piece together the best parts of AOKP, CM9, and MIUI, so I became very interested in getting this ****.
Maybe I'm just out of the loop and it's really popular, but I've seen nothing about it here. Anyway, since they have pretty up-to-date ROMs for the NS4G and more-so the Fascinate, I thought maybe we could get a working version? And I know how epic devs love to give us as many ICS Rom options as possible...
here's the link to the forum that has all the newest Gummy ROM releases - http://rootzwiki.com/forum/406-releases/
Looks cool even the name makes me wanna have it lol I saw its available for the fascinate so that should help.
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Looks cool even the name makes me wanna have it lol I saw its available for the fascinate so that should help.
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That does not matter because it is open source.
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That does not matter because it is open source.
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Alright well tanks for makin me look like a bimbo
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haha marcusant i knew you'd jump on this. knowing you we'll have it tomorrow. i'm gunna load it onto the droid 2 global tonight so i'll see if it's really as cool as it sounds.
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That does not matter because it is open source.
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It would if you were kanging.
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It would if you were kanging.
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You still cherry-pick the cm team (kang) if from source. My kernel is mostly "kanged " from Ezekeel and Team Glitch and it is built from source.
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Hmmm..so I got it running on the droid global. 1st thing you notice? Bootup sound is possibly the most irritating thing I've ever heard in my life. The rom itself is pretty solid though. Very quick..much snappier than aokp on the global. However, customization is not as thorough as I expected. There's actually LESS customizable features than on standard aokp or cm9 w/ reloaded mod..though it DOES have a Wimax toggle, which is cool (but weird since the global does not have wimax), and a few things you can't do on cm9 or aokp. All in all id say it might be worth checking out on the epic since it really is pretty quick and has a wimax toggle, but besides that, little is different from other ics roms.
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Anyone thinking about this?
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If you guys want to run this ROM, you can just copy app and framework from it to cm9 from the fascinate version. However, if you want to not piss off the cm team, it'd probably be best not to release it, since its pretty much stealing their ROM. And don't bite the hand that feeds you.
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If you guys want to run this ROM, you can just copy app and framework from it to cm9 from the fascinate version. However, if you want to not piss off the cm team, it'd probably be best not to release it, since its pretty much stealing their ROM. And don't bite the hand that feeds you.
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isn't that what "open source" is all about? encouraging "stealing" essentially? no one is making money off of "stealing" cm's work or taking money away from the cm team...i don't get it. all this would do is further the experience and provde more options to epic owners.
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isn't that what "open source" is all about? encouraging "stealing" essentially? no one is making money off of "stealing" cm's work or taking money away from the cm team...i don't get it. all this would do is further the experience and provde more options to epic owners.
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In my opinion yes, but i'm just speaking from personal experiences. You May want to ask them either on twitter irc or pm.
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In my opinion yes, but i'm just speaking from personal experiences. You May want to ask them either on twitter irc or pm.
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ehh whatever. i'm not guna bother doing it. was hoping someone else would.
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ehh whatever. i'm not guna bother doing it. was hoping someone else would.
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I agree with you completely on this. Its the point of open source. Just based on my experiences on porting miui, some of their devs are not too keen on the idea of us copying their files in winzip. Just trying to save you from some of the drama I've faced.
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I agree with you completely on this. Its the point of open source. Just based on my experiences on porting miui, some of their devs are not too keen on the idea of us copying their files in winzip. Just trying to save you from some of the drama I've faced.
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appreciate it. yes i remember them giving you guys ****.
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appreciate it. yes i remember them giving you guys ****.
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It's not all of them, just a select few. Some are very nice and helpful, like UberPinguin and mkasick.
Open source means open source. Everyone (even including the cm team) needs to realize this and get over it. The cm team, or any other dev are by no means required to do this work, as they don't get paid for it. People are not required to pay them for their work, but choose to through donations sometimes. The starters of cm don't whine about people kanging their rom to try to get it working on other devices. It's what we did at first before our cm team was even officially part of cm. No one seems to mind borrowing bits and pieces from other devices, or damn near everything from a source of one original dev who created this and shared it openly, with all, with absolutely no complaints or ****s to give. Just because they've put in so much work on it, they do not own it, and they never have. The only thing that matters is showing respect. Credit to our cm team for porting most/almost all of this, but not without help from many other sources, and the original and also huge contribution from those who started the cm project and have been so selfless and sharing with it.
The point of open source is to not care. To share everything we have freely so that "anything" that is possible can be done. If someone wants to change a framework and some apps, add in some scripts and kernel tweaks, or a custom kernel, call it a rom and release it, they are allowed. That is what every rom before now has been. Android with Samsung's code, with tweaks. No one before now has built an OS for our device completely from the ground up. Everyone acts more high and mighty than they are. The only difference here is that instead of it being the stock software, it's software someone else built, our device's team ported, and now tries to lay claim over.
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I must agree. If some cm team (god love them) members want to cause a ruckus over people sharing with open source, then switch over to improving iphones and their closed source.
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ok now back to the topic...any rebels wana take a crack at gummy and post it??
So to go back off topic and throw my two cents in.
I think its more of them wanting people to learn to do it the proper way.
Marcus, for example, did this with MIUI and has continued to do so for a while.
He is rather young just yet, and has a TON of potential to get in and learn the real code.
Smali is machine code. Smali is rather hard to explain, read, and visualize.
Kanging by winzip is damn easy file coping. But if you run into bugs, how do you fix it?
Smali code editing? Copy DIFFERENT files over? That's quite impossible and is harder than it needs to be.
The CM9 Devs, I'm sure, do not give a rats ass what you do with their official .zips.
What they do care about is learning and growing the community.
I feel they gave you both, Marcus and xBox, a hard time because they want you to learn the correct tools and the proper process... Not for them, but for the community and yourselves.
You both get into learning C++, Java, etc... You both will make outstanding Devs. You'll help yourselves, the CM9 team, and the community.
That's my opinion. If its totally off base, oh well. I am not speaking for the team. This has not been discussed with me. I have merely been reading what's been available on the forums. Take it or leave it... They want you to learn
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I'm holding off on messing with CM7 thinking that our phone is sort of on the cutting edge of Android devices and will surely have a version of CM9 becoming available in the not to distant future.
I guess the same could be said of CM7 but that didn't come true did it.
Am I kidding myself about CM9? Who does cyanogenmod develop for typically?
thanks.
CM 7 is awesome. Flash away now
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there is no use waiting on CM9 it wont be ready any time that soon. CM7 is great flash it! remember that the various dev teams are not getting paid beyond some random donations for this. and this is all done on their free time.
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there is no use waiting on CM9 it wont be ready any time that soon. CM7 is great flash it! remember that the various dev teams are not getting paid beyond some random donations for this. and this is all done on their free time.
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maybe the free time is the problem. Cm is so mainstream now I think everyone who uses it should pay $20 or so for every version (cm6, cm7, cm9) If they were able to make money off what is really a worthy product they can be able to invest more time and manpower in their projects. Its a shame the more phones they support the harder it is
I agree. I also feel CM should move into creating a company with a large dedicated team of coders that actually work full time on CM projects.
As for money, $10 access to nightlies per device or something similar would make it viable. The project as it stands right now has over a million users I believe. $10 million per version of Android and access to nightlies should be more than enough incentive to do it. And a full time CM team would churn them out like clockwork.
I think that's a ludicrous idea. That destroys the entire spirit of Android deving, it's supposed to be open source. Although I haven't made any roms, or kernels, I am learning. I won't speak for everyone but I would never make people pay to get the roms I develop.
Firstly, some people can't afford that. Secondly, that wouldn't stop other people from distributing it. Or simply kanging it and distributing it to others.
If I've stepped on any toes then I apologize but I just think that charging people just isn't the way to go about this.
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I want Cyanogenmod team to get paid for the work they put in however that will just kill the spirit of open source. Once money is involved that means they need to hide parts of codes else people would just redistribute them as freewares or cheaper alternatives which equals a lot of problems and headaches.
I'm pretty sure the developers involved love doing this and enjoy themselves.
Now back to topic, CM7 is surprising very stable on our S2 for an alpha release. I'm sure Samsung will release a ICS upgrade before CM9 comes out.
So I haven't had a smart phone long enough to know how the upgrade works.
If Samsung releases ICS for SHG-T989 will it be available to us or do we have to get it through T-mobile (with all the bloatware back inside)?
When the official ICS from Samsung come out is that when the ICS based ROMs like Juggernaut and Bombarider start coming out?
Complete utter retartedness , CM team work's for samsung & samsung can't sell OS , niether could CM if they wanted too .
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So I haven't had a smart phone long enough to know how the upgrade works.
If Samsung releases ICS for SHG-T989 will it be available to us or do we have to get it through T-mobile (with all the bloatware back inside)?
When the official ICS from Samsung come out is that when the ICS based ROMs like Juggernaut and Bombarider start coming out?
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We will have Samsung leaks long before an official release on ics. But who knows how long that will be.
well. who knows guys...theres already a few cm9 ports....well keep our hopes up..
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I think that's a ludicrous idea. That destroys the entire spirit of Android deving, it's supposed to be open source. Although I haven't made any roms, or kernels, I am learning. I won't speak for everyone but I would never make people pay to get the roms I develop.
Firstly, some people can't afford that. Secondly, that wouldn't stop other people from distributing it. Or simply kanging it and distributing it to others.
If I've stepped on any toes then I apologize but I just think that charging people just isn't the way to go about this.
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Use your money for something important, not for fun.
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there is miui and galnetmiui ics and other ics rom
but we wait cm9 or official update
We will have custom ics rom 24 hours from official Sammy release.
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We will have custom ics rom 24 hours from official Sammy release.
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Stfu
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Complete utter retartedness , CM team work's for samsung & samsung can't sell OS , niether could CM if they wanted too .
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CM team works for Samsung? Really kid?
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CM team works for Samsung? Really kid?
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Samsung hired Steve Kondik a few months ago. They even said that he can use the skills he learns at Samsung fir Cyanogenmod.
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Samsung hired Steve Kondik a few months ago. They even said that he can use the skills he learns at Samsung fir Cyanogenmod.
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Only hired cyanogen himself. I'm pretty sure some things are confidential till released as well he would get fired if certain information got out.. Most likely samsung hired him for his linux skills not cyanogenmod. It just so happen he is the maintainer of cyanogenmod.
If i had to pay for cyanogen i would never use it.
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I'm curious to see which are working in our phone. Sometimes I just feel that no one is developing for our phone.
We got new roms this week. Shut up
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Its a valid question. And just how new are the elements of these roms?
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Really? Experience them for yourself to find out. There are definitely some new roms.
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Not trying to be negative but new roms does not equal development. 90% of what we have is MODDED roms. Very few actual roms that are DEVELOPED. We have lots of modders, one or two developers.
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Not trying to be negative but new roms does not equal development. 90% of what we have is MODDED roms. Very few actual roms that are DEVELOPED. We have lots of modders, one or two developers.
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At last someone understands me!
I dont think you people understand. Theres a developer who starts from scratch on a stock pure rom. As a base. Not someones deodexed or debloated rom. A stock non root. Then they work on rooting the rom. And then deodexed the rom. Then they debloat (optional). Then add their apks. And then add theming. Honestly the devs here use other peoples base rom and just theme it nd tweak it a lil bit. To be honest the only developer that stands out is romanbb and whitehawx. They made juggernaut 4.1 as said in the description from scratch. They didnt kang anything or use someone elses work. They are true devs. The others are themers and tweakers and such. Now i love their work.. Honestly i love them too they make my phone that much better. Im just trying to clarify what it means to be a dev
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Do u see the 13 toggles? They had to code everything for it to work on our device. You know how long that takes?! Like i said they used a SAMSUNG PURE NON ROOT ROM! Others use other devs deodexed roms or debloated roms. They do everything themselves it
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So, whitehawx and romann didn't simply tweak stock Samsung twiz? How could those two build from scratch? All there has been are Samsung stock twiz so far. They cry abt Kang, but don't they Kang themselves?
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And no they do not kang. For the love of god. You shouldve done some reaserch before you try to prove me wrong. They make their own stuff. They are recognized developers. Not senoir members.
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Well i want to be a dev, just dont know how besides android kitchen
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Why does every thread turn into an argument? And if you think you have the right to complain about a devs ROM, then put out something of your own that's better. If you can't, well then anyone who can even kang a ROM is lightyears ahead of you so don't complain.
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What difference does it make whether they're kang'ed or not?
The developers we have working on this phone have stepped up and released some very decent kernels and roms and they've worked hard to do so. I don't expect a developer to build CM7 or 9 from scratch, but I've used DARKSIDE's CM7 Hybrid for a while and it's incredible. Other developers (TricH, faux123, Team Kang) have all released some great stuff as well.
We've had a slow start getting this phone off the ground and I think it's due to the attitude some people have that we're owed something by simply owning this phone and having the ability to flash roms. Let's show the developers we have a little gratitude and patience and development for this phone will continue to take off as it has over the past few weeks.
If yall want to view it that way, everyone is using samsung's ROM as a base ROM and modifying it. If any of you have tried to develop than you would know that even minor variations from a "stock" takes time and effort. All developers start somewhere and the hope is for them to contribute to the community and learn and get better. My solution to people who are complaining about real vs "fake" developing is this:
I came from the i9100 forums and they had two sections for Android development-original and the normal Android development. The original Android development are for developers who build everything from scratch from source. The regular development is for everything else.
Like I said we don't want to discourage development because you never know which dev will grow up to be the next great!
Everyone kanged samsung's ROM hahaha...
I just got a sgs2.. and well the aosp game is kinda ridiculous on this device... props to the devs who's provided the options they were able to on this device but where are the rest of the roms at?
expect to see some more aosp comin from me here in the next month or so
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JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS I MEANT NO DISRESPECT AT ALL.. I EVEN CREDITED THE DEVS WGO BROUGHT SOME GREAT ROMS TO THIS DEVICE.. I just want people to know I'm here to bring more to the table.. I'm guessing there is a major hurdle to overcome to bring aosp to this device since I'm not seeing a lot of it.. but I'm up for the task.. and I'll simply let my work speak for itself..
If you have an issue bring it to my attention but please dont harass me for stating that I wanna contribute to this device.. I don't want a bad rep at all and I hope you all will enjoy the work I produce
Only complaint on AOSP roms is that data speeds don't seem to be up to par compared to stock Touchwiz. Hopefully once Samsung releases the latest ICS source things get better since FI03 fixed the slow 4g speeds that haunted previous ICS builds.
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Only complaint on AOSP roms is that data speeds don't seem to be up to par compared to stock Touchwiz. Hopefully once Samsung releases the latest ICS source things get better since FI03 fixed the slow 4g speeds that haunted previous ICS builds.
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CM9 WITH FI03 modem gives me awesome speeds, stabilty, and battery.
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Only complaint on AOSP roms is that data speeds don't seem to be up to par compared to stock Touchwiz. Hopefully once Samsung releases the latest ICS source things get better since FI03 fixed the slow 4g speeds that haunted previous ICS builds.
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3g speeds are the same on aosp and touchwiz. Its 4g that's different. I would suggest sbrissens build.
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3g speeds are the same on aosp and touchwiz. Its 4g that's different. I would suggest sbrissens build.
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Everyones different though, just for me I tried them all (ran AOSP roms for the last 3-4 months), 3g seems a lot better on Twizz especially at work where it's a very low signal area. And 4g is no contest between the two.
So since my post mysteriously vanished... I'll sum it up for those that missed it.
Our devs are working hard to get us official cm status, we have many aosp options to choose from already, we have many more roms coming with all the work chris41g is putting into development for our device.
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I dont release half of my roms because I focus more on one but show me a sprint device with more recent aosp than us besides the flagships that are basically included in aosp to begin with. think sprint will let you exchange your device for one with a community you can respect for a few months til you're ready. Maybe including some aosp options will provide somewhat a better understanding of ur purpose for this thread.
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So since my post mysteriously vanished... I'll sum it up for those that missed it.
Our devs are working hard to get us official cm status, we have many aosp options to choose from already, we have many more roms coming with all the work chris41g is putting into development for our device.
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Ya I noticed that too mattix. Thank you and all devs for our aosp roms and cm and aokp.
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Mattix724 said:
So since my post mysteriously vanished... I'll sum it up for those that missed it.
Our devs are working hard to get us official cm status, we have many aosp options to choose from already, we have many more roms coming with all the work chris41g is putting into development for our device.
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I deleted your post due to it being very rude and flaming another member. It was reported and it was removed. I will continue to do this if I see fit. On another note if you are producing or friends are producing roms then I'd suggest you let you works speak for themselves and not sit here and continue to act the way I have seen in this thread.
With that I will be locking this thread and ask that another like it not be made again
Thank you papa smurf.. no pun intended
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I dont release half of my roms because I focus more on one but show me a sprint device with more recent aosp than us besides the flagships that are basically included in aosp to begin with. think sprint will let you exchange your device for one with a community you can respect for a few months til you're ready. Maybe including some aosp options will provide somewhat a better understanding of ur purpose for this thread.
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Evo 4g, evo3d, epic 4g ect ect...
I respect you as a fellow dev. I'm actually using your ROM right now.. I'm a hardcore aosp guy and I was just expecting a device with a lot more options coming from the last two outdated phones I was on..
I was expecting to see some kind of positive feedback to see how interested people were in seeing more aosp not people trippin the EFF out.. I have a feeling that this is gonna be like the og evo threads all over again.. everyone's on such a defensive stand point!
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Yes, I did go a little overboard with what I said. I know that this does not change what I said. I hope to see what you can bring to the table.
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I want to apologize for my first post earlier, I just woke up after passing out watching a movie and I took this thread as an insult to our developers.
Yes, I did go a little overboard with what I said. I know that this does not change what I said. I hope to see what you can bring to the table.
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I didn't even see what you said but no harm no foul.. I didn't mean to insult anyone I even made sure to throw them some kudos I just had a feeling either aosp wasn't hot on this device or that it was hard AF to bring over
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Are you Building from A Source or In A Kitchen?
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Building from source
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Building from source
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You should see if you can work alongside sbrissen. JB aosp/cm10/aokp/PA are all pretty stable just a few kinks here and there sbrissen has done a FANTASTIC JOB ON JB! Just throwing some ideas your way
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You should see if you can work alongside sbrissen. JB aosp/cm10/aokp/PA are all pretty stable just a few kinks here and there sbrissen has done a FANTASTIC JOB ON JB! Just throwing some ideas your way
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I second that
Sbrissen has produced some of the memorable stuff during last year and a halk for various devices
I'm not sure what you mean by not enough AOSP roms. Every major one has been released for our device and theyre all pretty stable.
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Anyone else find it funny that t989 devs have twice as many ROMs and the skyrocket has like 4 custom kernels
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Hey anything better then nothing lol
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That's because devs like jovy, Rushing and pmt3r pump out the same ROM with 17 thousand different themes. Then we have 5 other guys compiling the same damn cm10 or aokp ROM from source.. In reality we have a small amount of ROMs that are actually built from the ground up. Then our guys take that base and do what they want to it. They have skyICS which to them is their go to touchwiz ROM (and honestly skyICS is better than all of our TW roms combined.) just like Darkside Evolution was ours. Then we have thelastsidekick making another thousand roms instead of just working on one and making it the best it can be. IMO our dev section is cluttered with a bunch of unneeded crap. I'd rather have a few more devs that know enough to cook some kernels instead of devs that just copy and paste what they want to an already existing base.
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That's because devs like jovy, Rushing and pmt3r pump out the same ROM with 17 thousand different themes. Then we have 5 other guys compiling the same damn cm10 or aokp ROM from source.. In reality we have a small amount of ROMs that are actually built from the ground up. Then our guys take that base and do what they want to it. They have skyICS which to them is their go to touchwiz ROM (and honestly skyICS is better than all of our TW roms combined.) just like Darkside Evolution was ours. Then we have thelastsidekick making another thousand roms instead of just working on one and making it the best it can be. IMO our dev section is cluttered with a bunch of unneeded crap. I'd rather have a few more devs that know enough to cook some kernels instead of devs that just copy and paste what they want to an already existing base.
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And we STILL dont have a custom 4.0.4 kernel.
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And we STILL dont have a custom 4.0.4 kernel.
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Pmt3r claims that he does.. I don't buy it though. A 4.0.4 kernel built from the ground up would be cool. In the mean time I'm perfectly happy with aokp and CM. I was just stating the obvious.. or unobvious I guess lol.
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That's because devs like jovy, Rushing and pmt3r pump out the same ROM with 17 thousand different themes. Then we have 5 other guys compiling the same damn cm10 or aokp ROM from source.. In reality we have a small amount of ROMs that are actually built from the ground up. Then our guys take that base and do what they want to it. They have skyICS which to them is their go to touchwiz ROM (and honestly skyICS is better than all of our TW roms combined.) just like Darkside Evolution was ours. Then we have thelastsidekick making another thousand roms instead of just working on one and making it the best it can be. IMO our dev section is cluttered with a bunch of unneeded crap. I'd rather have a few more devs that know enough to cook some kernels instead of devs that just copy and paste what they want to an already existing base.
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Exactly, ive said this before in rushings "rom" thread. Just update one rom with flashable add ons and themes..
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Anyone else find it funny that t989 devs have twice as many ROMs and the skyrocket has like 4 custom kernels
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I bought this phone in March ,the best ROM at the time was Juggernaut and Darkside digital warfare. I say things have VASTLY improved. I appreciate anybody that puts in work and hooks it up for free. It would be nice to have more top notch devs on our forum.
Either way they're all interchangeable, basically could all be in one forum
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That's because devs like jovy, Rushing and pmt3r pump out the same ROM with 17 thousand different themes. Then we have 5 other guys compiling the same damn cm10 or aokp ROM from source.. In reality we have a small amount of ROMs that are actually built from the ground up. Then our guys take that base and do what they want to it. They have skyICS which to them is their go to touchwiz ROM (and honestly skyICS is better than all of our TW roms combined.) just like Darkside Evolution was ours. Then we have thelastsidekick making another thousand roms instead of just working on one and making it the best it can be. IMO our dev section is cluttered with a bunch of unneeded crap. I'd rather have a few more devs that know enough to cook some kernels instead of devs that just copy and paste what they want to an already existing base.
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I love how you're quick to place blame in everyone else but what have you attempted? If its such a huge problem and there's a lack of development work going on, why don't you go ahead and create your own ROM from the ground up or better yet, create us a custom kernel. Until you can do either of these things, where do you even stand? This is not an insult or because I even take offense to it. I say this because people like jovy actually put time into their ROMs.
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That's because devs like jovy, Rushing and pmt3r pump out the same ROM with 17 thousand different themes. Then we have 5 other guys compiling the same damn cm10 or aokp ROM from source.. In reality we have a small amount of ROMs that are actually built from the ground up. Then our guys take that base and do what they want to it. They have skyICS which to them is their go to touchwiz ROM (and honestly skyICS is better than all of our TW roms combined.) just like Darkside Evolution was ours. Then we have thelastsidekick making another thousand roms instead of just working on one and making it the best it can be. IMO our dev section is cluttered with a bunch of unneeded crap. I'd rather have a few more devs that know enough to cook some kernels instead of devs that just copy and paste what they want to an already existing base.
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I'm just holding out for the new Nexus so I can move on out to a different phone. The Dev forum is a mess here. There's even ROM threads without ROMs in them. It's like a DMZ free for all.
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I love how you're quick to place blame in everyone else but what have you attempted? If its such a huge problem and there's a lack of development work going on, why don't you go ahead and create your own ROM from the ground up or better yet, create us a custom kernel. Until you can do either of these things, where do you even stand? This is not an insult or because I even take offense to it. I say this because people like jovy actually put time into their ROMs.
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Don't get offended. It's the truth. Go look at the dev section. Its a mess. Half of you guys don't even post your githubs, sources, or code. So.. you're basically taking bases and kanging them to death. Making the same ROM 10 times . Which I have no problem with. Its open source that's the point. But.. Keep it organized! Work on one project at a time and atleast finish it. You have dumped at least 2 ROMs yourself to start on others. This leaves the dev section a huge mess and easier for newcomers to flash something they shouldn't and risk a brick. Look at the general section. Brick threads galore. And honestly I don't need to contribute by making a ROM or anything of that sort. I contribute by donating like any good flasher should and trying to help others with issues I've had myself. If the garbage was thrown out and the dev section cleaned up we would have less than 7 active threads. Rushing making a new thread for an already made ROM just because it has a different theme? Insanity.
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Don't get offended. It's the truth. Go look at the dev section. Its a mess. Half of you guys don't even post your githubs, sources, or code. So.. you're basically taking bases and kanging them to death. Making the same ROM 10 times . Which I have no problem with. Its open source that's the point. But.. Keep it organized! Work on one project at a time and atleast finish it. You have dumped at least 2 ROMs yourself to start on others. This leaves the dev section a huge mess and easier for newcomers to flash something they shouldn't and risk a brick. Look at the general section. Brick threads galore. And honestly I don't need to contribute by making a ROM or anything of that sort. I contribute by donating like any good flasher should and trying to help others with issues I've had myself. If the garbage was thrown out and the dev section cleaned up we would have less than 7 active threads. Rushing making a new thread for an already made ROM just because it has a different theme? Insanity.
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I suppose you're right in some ways.
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VoiD_Dweller said:
I'm just holding out for the new Nexus so I can move on out to a different phone. The Dev forum is a mess here. There's even ROM threads without ROMs in them. It's like a DMZ free for all.
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He!! Yea! I just want a nexus so I can have updates im not waiting around anymore..
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Pmt3r claims that he does.. I don't buy it though. A 4.0.4 kernel built from the ground up would be cool. In the mean time I'm perfectly happy with aokp and CM. I was just stating the obvious.. or unobvious I guess lol.
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You don't buy it? I have been testing it for over a week now and its Better than the skyrockets kernel that everyone is flashing. I have screenshots to prove it...
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style154 said:
You don't buy it? I have been testing it for over a week now and its Better than the skyrockets kernel that everyone is flashing. I have screenshots to prove it...
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Definitely +1.
Correct me if I'm wrong.. Aren't Cyanogenmod and TW just customized ports from the originals as well? The only roms built from the ground up are the ones that come from Google, samsung, etc. Not being a **** just clarifying not sure if im right
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Correct me if I'm wrong.. Aren't Cyanogenmod and TW just customized ports from the originals as well? The only roms built from the ground up are the ones that come from Google, samsung, etc. Not being a **** just clarifying not sure if im right
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Yes and no. Cyanogenmod is built from the ground up using their own source code that sticks closely to the AOSP source code. As far as Touchwiz goes, it's built from the ground up by Samsung. It's the reason why Wi-Fi calling isn't available on AOSP or AOKP.
Now as far kernels, Samsung has released 4.0.4 source but the only devs I know that have built their own kernel FROM THE GROUND UP are Eugene373s streamline and TDJ venom kernels. As far as other kernels, they all include mods and changes that they have made to the original Samsung kernel. In other words, modding instead of building from scratch.
Like I said, I don't have an issue with this. If I had the time to learn how to dev and cook up my own idea on what a ROM should look like and perform I totally would. But some of us lead different lives and some things just aren't possible. That's why I donate. I feel like a scumbag using something someone made for free that's better than what I actually paid for. But that's just me.
All I'm saying is.. dev section is a mess. Lol mods, let's clean it up and get rid of discontinued ROMs. As a dev if you have different theme ideas and want to post them for your ROM? Put it in its rightful forum. There's a reason the THEMES and apps forum exists. If we already have a certain official ROM unofficially compiled from source, let's agree on one thread instead of having 5 people compile the same ROM. Don't make 10 threads with the same rom and a different theme.
Voiddweller was right. It's a bit out of control. We got too many brick threads and too many people cluttering up threads with questions that have pre-existing answers obtained with a simple search.
Just sayen' fellas. I still visit the NS4G forums, I gave it to my gf and got this. I love that forum. This one? Not so much. When we get devs leaving (TDJ wasn't the first) that says something. You guys wanna see 4.2 on this phone? Fix the forum.
Sorry for wall o text.
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You guys wanna see 4.2 on this phone? Fix the forum.
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I completely agree.
Did something new come out? Have we hit a brick wall? At one point the roms and updates were being cranked out.. now nothing. What's going on?
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I think a lot of pressure was for us to get jelly bean. We got it and things calmed down. We still have development. But, this device just isn't in enough hands. When CM get finished that should give us a pretty stable foundation for other popular AOSP roms. So, at this point that seems to be what is the most important milestone. I don't know how that is progressing though.
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I think a lot of pressure was for us to get jelly bean. We got it and things calmed down. We still have development. But, this device just isn't in enough hands. When CM get finished that should give us a pretty stable foundation for other popular AOSP roms. So, at this point that seems to be what is the most important milestone. I don't know how that is progressing though.
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I'm really glad the first response wasn't a "hey stop asking, flame flame flame."
But yeah, I feel the same. The camera and other fixes in CM will make it stable and people will build on top of that. Why bother making new ROMs if your old ones are good and why build on CM if the camera (a pretty popular use of smartphones nowadays) isn't working?
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I'm really glad the first response wasn't a "hey stop asking, flame flame flame."
But yeah, I feel the same. The camera and other fixes in CM will make it stable and people will build on top of that. Why bother making new ROMs if your old ones are good and why build on CM if the camera (a pretty popular use of smartphones nowadays) isn't working?
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I think I've been around here long enough to warrant asking a question like that. I've done my fair amount of contribution. Kc thanks for the answer. Megamaster, I agree, although I love aosp it would be nice to see a highly optimized, highly stable, and heavily themed LG based ROM too. For some people it's just their cup of tea.
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A lot of our devs also have some major stuff going on with personal life too.... New jobs, new kids, etc. Congrats to all, btw.
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oh the amazing things coming soon for our device...
the calm before the storm
autoprime said:
oh the amazing things coming soon for our device...
the calm before the storm
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Get some!
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What's needed most is themes. Good, full themes. I would kill to see somebody port Myn's Warm over to the LGOG. I'm sure somebody would like to see a TW or the new Moto look as well. Nobody has even bothered to mod any of the theme apks that come built in to the LG software. It may not be CM theme manager level of awesome but our phones does have a theme manager built in.
Except for base ROMs like AOSP/CM there really isn't a reason for new ROMs. To be honest, Imperium Initiative isn't even a ROM, I simply released it as one because I was feeling lazy and didn't want to write the script for it. If I had, it only would have been around a 50-60MB DL.
Lokifish Marz said:
What's needed most is themes. Good, full themes. I would kill to see somebody port Myn's Warm over to the LGOG.
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Definitely planning on that. I ported it to my epic and once I get sense working, I will go for it.
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I'm content with what we have for the moment. And I've been poking around with some files myself trying to get features we should have (QSlide apps) working and other things of interest.
What languages/scripts and what do you guys make/bake and mod/theme Roms with and in? I know just some of the stepping stones, but have lots of time to learn. With a bit of self study I don't see myself being able to make roms, but surely theming/modding.
can anybody port iOS? Totally kidding.
I'm looking forward to what is coming, but at the same time, we do have some very good, stable ROMs. Something that can be said for our device that cannot be said for many others is that all of our ROMs that are not in testing are stable. Quality before quantity and all that. I was looking through the GS3 forums for a friend yesterday and they have so many options you simply could not possibly know what is good and what is not without reading pages upon pages of posts. It was awful!
Anyway, I think it's a valid question but from my POV I'm pretty happy with where we are at.
Plus, the roms we have are their own build your own rom kits. The possibilities are pretty endless.
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can anybody port iOS? Totally kidding.
I'm looking forward to what is coming, but at the same time, we do have some very good, stable ROMs. Something that can be said for our device that cannot be said for many others is that all of our ROMs that are not in testing are stable. Quality before quantity and all that. I was looking through the GS3 forums for a friend yesterday and they have so many options you simply could not possibly know what is good and what is not without reading pages upon pages of posts. It was awful!
Anyway, I think it's a valid question but from my POV I'm pretty happy with where we are at.
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Even if someone could get it fully working, they couldn't release it because Apple would sue their ass.
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great work by the devs we have so far. My phone is 100x better than it would have been at stock. Im a lurker but definitely appreciate the efforts of all. Thanks
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Even if someone could get it fully working, they couldn't release it because Apple would sue their ass.
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Apple wouldn't have a leg to stand on if they hadn't patented that extremely unique rectangular shape
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A lot of our devs also have some major stuff going on with personal life too.... New jobs, new kids, etc. Congrats to all, btw.
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Congrats guys...
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I definitely would like to see our theme manager utilized. Even if we had an inverted stock theme. All the menus are so damn bright, wouldn't mind seeing a dark theme. Maybe a blue theme... I just think for a device of this caliber we should have more.
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What's needed most is themes. Good, full themes. I would kill to see somebody port Myn's Warm over to the LGOG. I'm sure somebody would like to see a TW or the new Moto look as well. Nobody has even bothered to mod any of the theme apks that come built in to the LG software. It may not be CM theme manager level of awesome but our phones does have a theme manager built in.
Except for base ROMs like AOSP/CM there really isn't a reason for new ROMs. To be honest, Imperium Initiative isn't even a ROM, I simply released it as one because I was feeling lazy and didn't want to write the script for it. If I had, it only would have been around a 50-60MB DL.
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Ahhh yes!! Myn's roms were the most beautiful and elegant I've ever used. I had the OG Evo and the Evo 3D and his work was always top notch. Donated to him more than anyone else. I would love to see his work on the Optimus G.
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Ahhh yes!! Myn's roms were the most beautiful and elegant I've ever used. I had the OG Evo and the Evo 3D and his work was always top notch. Donated to him more than anyone else. I would love to see his work on the Optimus G.
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Yeah they are beautiful. Especially on non HTC devices such as the epic. It was glorious.
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