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[Q] Cyanogenmod? Whats the big deal?

Serious question...
As the Epic is the first Android phone I've rooted I've not experienced the Cyanogenmod ROM?
What makes it so great to want it so badly in the forums?
I mean we have great ROMs like Midnight, SRF, Frankenstien, Bonsai? (sorry if I didnt mention the other great ROMs available just didn't want to sit here and name them all as there are alot!)
So can someone give opinions on why it is so awesome?

Its based on gingerbread and was built from the source code.... We have a beta version for the epic... I flashed it a couple months ago and kept it for 2 days just to check it out... You should give it a shot...
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theduce102 said:
Its based on gingerbread and was built from the source code.... We have a beta version for the epic... I flashed it a couple months ago and kept it for 2 days just to check it out... You should give it a shot...
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Its actually an aplha but ya its straight aosp and its so awesome lol.
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theduce102 said:
Its based on gingerbread and was built from the source code.... We have a beta version for the epic... I flashed it a couple months ago and kept it for 2 days just to check it out... You should give it a shot...
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I would give it a shot but I need it to be fully functional haha as I use the features that are broken

it is the hyped but up so much but it lives up to the hype.
If you were to tell someone four or five years ago. That a group of developers were going to take on a project to deliver a true open source experience and environment with nightly builds on a mobile phone they would have laughed at you. They would have laughed at you more when you tell him about this that this development team would be able to push Operating systems updates faster than manufactures of the phone itself.
The cyanogen mod is completely built from source so it does not include bloatware and no overlay
I for one love cyanogen mod not only does it add needed features, if theres an problem its discussed openly and the maintainer will actually let you know whats going on, if a fix is coming or its just totally borked. whereas with the telco or manufacturer they tell you that its not an issue and lie to you

ZiggSVO said:
I would give it a shot but I need it to be fully functional haha as I use the features that are broken
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Cyanogenmod, as stated above, is built from the ground up using source providing a true AOSP experience. This gives us the advantages of a fully custom and functional ROM without the disadvantages of having to wait for manufacturers to push out updates and having to wait for them ever so long. What makes it stand out from the other ROMS still is that since it is built from source, the ROM is being specifically built for our device, which will in return will take advantage of our phones unique hardware/capabilities to deliver an even richer ROM experience. Bottom line, once we get Cyanogenmod fully functioning on our Epics, that's when I will say th Epic has lived up to its true potential
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I was wondering the same thing...until I flashed CM7 on my Nook Color. Great having updates and a diverse community working on the same project... just works!
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akenis said:
Great having updates and a diverse community working on the same project... just works!
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Well, from what I gather...we don't have that

I uninstalled it because I did not see Market installed on it...

DroidBabe said:
I uninstalled it because I did not see Market installed on it...
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Probably because you didn't read the post right also. CyanogenMod does not include ANY Google apps. There is a flash-able zip that has all of them for you to install.
Google doesn't allow them to include it in their ROM, but (as said) you can flash them.

What is the holdup with Cyanogenmon, for the Epic?
What is different about the source available for our phone, then the source available for the EVO? That allowed it to be ported to the EVO so much quicker??

Cyanogen mod is the fastest and lightest rom there is. There is also a bunch of really awesome cosmetic features such as you can change any of the drop down toggles and add them. The themes that you can get for cyanogen are awesome I don't remember some of the other features but it also has amazing battery life so that's why it is the most sought after rom. The slow down is samsungs propriatary drivers and the manpower to do this quickly but once they either have this kernel booting or we get official gb it will come faster quoting nullghost one of the developers on the cm7 team for the epic.

nathan951 said:
What is the holdup with Cyanogenmon, for the Epic?
What is different about the source available for our phone, then the source available for the EVO? That allowed it to be ported to the EVO so much quicker??
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Um perhaps popularity and I am not certain for all of the hardware but some of it probably matched the nexus one
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BrianDigital said:
Um perhaps popularity and I am not certain for all of the hardware but some of it probably matched the nexus one
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from what i know, the cm7 team is trying to port over a Nexus kernel to the Epic but are having troubles at the moment doing so. once the kernel is up and running tho, everything should move along much smoother. Once GB source drops, that should also help the devs out immensely.

Who Are the Current Developers Working on This Phone?

I'm curious to see which are working in our phone. Sometimes I just feel that no one is developing for our phone.

We got new roms this week. Shut up
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Its a valid question. And just how new are the elements of these roms?
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Really? Experience them for yourself to find out. There are definitely some new roms.
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Not trying to be negative but new roms does not equal development. 90% of what we have is MODDED roms. Very few actual roms that are DEVELOPED. We have lots of modders, one or two developers.

xsteven77x said:
Not trying to be negative but new roms does not equal development. 90% of what we have is MODDED roms. Very few actual roms that are DEVELOPED. We have lots of modders, one or two developers.
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At last someone understands me!

I dont think you people understand. Theres a developer who starts from scratch on a stock pure rom. As a base. Not someones deodexed or debloated rom. A stock non root. Then they work on rooting the rom. And then deodexed the rom. Then they debloat (optional). Then add their apks. And then add theming. Honestly the devs here use other peoples base rom and just theme it nd tweak it a lil bit. To be honest the only developer that stands out is romanbb and whitehawx. They made juggernaut 4.1 as said in the description from scratch. They didnt kang anything or use someone elses work. They are true devs. The others are themers and tweakers and such. Now i love their work.. Honestly i love them too they make my phone that much better. Im just trying to clarify what it means to be a dev
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Do u see the 13 toggles? They had to code everything for it to work on our device. You know how long that takes?! Like i said they used a SAMSUNG PURE NON ROOT ROM! Others use other devs deodexed roms or debloated roms. They do everything themselves it
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So, whitehawx and romann didn't simply tweak stock Samsung twiz? How could those two build from scratch? All there has been are Samsung stock twiz so far. They cry abt Kang, but don't they Kang themselves?
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And no they do not kang. For the love of god. You shouldve done some reaserch before you try to prove me wrong. They make their own stuff. They are recognized developers. Not senoir members.
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Well i want to be a dev, just dont know how besides android kitchen
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Why does every thread turn into an argument? And if you think you have the right to complain about a devs ROM, then put out something of your own that's better. If you can't, well then anyone who can even kang a ROM is lightyears ahead of you so don't complain.
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What difference does it make whether they're kang'ed or not?
The developers we have working on this phone have stepped up and released some very decent kernels and roms and they've worked hard to do so. I don't expect a developer to build CM7 or 9 from scratch, but I've used DARKSIDE's CM7 Hybrid for a while and it's incredible. Other developers (TricH, faux123, Team Kang) have all released some great stuff as well.
We've had a slow start getting this phone off the ground and I think it's due to the attitude some people have that we're owed something by simply owning this phone and having the ability to flash roms. Let's show the developers we have a little gratitude and patience and development for this phone will continue to take off as it has over the past few weeks.

If yall want to view it that way, everyone is using samsung's ROM as a base ROM and modifying it. If any of you have tried to develop than you would know that even minor variations from a "stock" takes time and effort. All developers start somewhere and the hope is for them to contribute to the community and learn and get better. My solution to people who are complaining about real vs "fake" developing is this:
I came from the i9100 forums and they had two sections for Android development-original and the normal Android development. The original Android development are for developers who build everything from scratch from source. The regular development is for everything else.
Like I said we don't want to discourage development because you never know which dev will grow up to be the next great!
Everyone kanged samsung's ROM hahaha...

[REQ] Can someone Kang us a Gummy?!

i was looking for new roms for my girl's droid 2 global on rootzwiki the other day and found out about these AOSP ICS Gummy Roms. They're made by a pretty reputable team that includes JRummy (maker of the best root app Rom Toolbox) and they seem to piece together the best parts of AOKP, CM9, and MIUI, so I became very interested in getting this ****.
Maybe I'm just out of the loop and it's really popular, but I've seen nothing about it here. Anyway, since they have pretty up-to-date ROMs for the NS4G and more-so the Fascinate, I thought maybe we could get a working version? And I know how epic devs love to give us as many ICS Rom options as possible...
here's the link to the forum that has all the newest Gummy ROM releases - http://rootzwiki.com/forum/406-releases/

Looks cool even the name makes me wanna have it lol I saw its available for the fascinate so that should help.
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CrfEpic4g said:
Looks cool even the name makes me wanna have it lol I saw its available for the fascinate so that should help.
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That does not matter because it is open source.
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marcusant said:
That does not matter because it is open source.
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Alright well tanks for makin me look like a bimbo
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haha marcusant i knew you'd jump on this. knowing you we'll have it tomorrow. i'm gunna load it onto the droid 2 global tonight so i'll see if it's really as cool as it sounds.

marcusant said:
That does not matter because it is open source.
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It would if you were kanging.
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xboxfanj said:
It would if you were kanging.
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You still cherry-pick the cm team (kang) if from source. My kernel is mostly "kanged " from Ezekeel and Team Glitch and it is built from source.
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Hmmm..so I got it running on the droid global. 1st thing you notice? Bootup sound is possibly the most irritating thing I've ever heard in my life. The rom itself is pretty solid though. Very quick..much snappier than aokp on the global. However, customization is not as thorough as I expected. There's actually LESS customizable features than on standard aokp or cm9 w/ reloaded mod..though it DOES have a Wimax toggle, which is cool (but weird since the global does not have wimax), and a few things you can't do on cm9 or aokp. All in all id say it might be worth checking out on the epic since it really is pretty quick and has a wimax toggle, but besides that, little is different from other ics roms.
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Anyone thinking about this?
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If you guys want to run this ROM, you can just copy app and framework from it to cm9 from the fascinate version. However, if you want to not piss off the cm team, it'd probably be best not to release it, since its pretty much stealing their ROM. And don't bite the hand that feeds you.
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xboxfanj said:
If you guys want to run this ROM, you can just copy app and framework from it to cm9 from the fascinate version. However, if you want to not piss off the cm team, it'd probably be best not to release it, since its pretty much stealing their ROM. And don't bite the hand that feeds you.
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isn't that what "open source" is all about? encouraging "stealing" essentially? no one is making money off of "stealing" cm's work or taking money away from the cm team...i don't get it. all this would do is further the experience and provde more options to epic owners.

FrankyFiggz27 said:
isn't that what "open source" is all about? encouraging "stealing" essentially? no one is making money off of "stealing" cm's work or taking money away from the cm team...i don't get it. all this would do is further the experience and provde more options to epic owners.
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In my opinion yes, but i'm just speaking from personal experiences. You May want to ask them either on twitter irc or pm.
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xboxfanj said:
In my opinion yes, but i'm just speaking from personal experiences. You May want to ask them either on twitter irc or pm.
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ehh whatever. i'm not guna bother doing it. was hoping someone else would.

FrankyFiggz27 said:
ehh whatever. i'm not guna bother doing it. was hoping someone else would.
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I agree with you completely on this. Its the point of open source. Just based on my experiences on porting miui, some of their devs are not too keen on the idea of us copying their files in winzip. Just trying to save you from some of the drama I've faced.
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xboxfanj said:
I agree with you completely on this. Its the point of open source. Just based on my experiences on porting miui, some of their devs are not too keen on the idea of us copying their files in winzip. Just trying to save you from some of the drama I've faced.
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appreciate it. yes i remember them giving you guys ****.

FrankyFiggz27 said:
appreciate it. yes i remember them giving you guys ****.
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It's not all of them, just a select few. Some are very nice and helpful, like UberPinguin and mkasick.

Open source means open source. Everyone (even including the cm team) needs to realize this and get over it. The cm team, or any other dev are by no means required to do this work, as they don't get paid for it. People are not required to pay them for their work, but choose to through donations sometimes. The starters of cm don't whine about people kanging their rom to try to get it working on other devices. It's what we did at first before our cm team was even officially part of cm. No one seems to mind borrowing bits and pieces from other devices, or damn near everything from a source of one original dev who created this and shared it openly, with all, with absolutely no complaints or ****s to give. Just because they've put in so much work on it, they do not own it, and they never have. The only thing that matters is showing respect. Credit to our cm team for porting most/almost all of this, but not without help from many other sources, and the original and also huge contribution from those who started the cm project and have been so selfless and sharing with it.
The point of open source is to not care. To share everything we have freely so that "anything" that is possible can be done. If someone wants to change a framework and some apps, add in some scripts and kernel tweaks, or a custom kernel, call it a rom and release it, they are allowed. That is what every rom before now has been. Android with Samsung's code, with tweaks. No one before now has built an OS for our device completely from the ground up. Everyone acts more high and mighty than they are. The only difference here is that instead of it being the stock software, it's software someone else built, our device's team ported, and now tries to lay claim over.
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I must agree. If some cm team (god love them) members want to cause a ruckus over people sharing with open source, then switch over to improving iphones and their closed source.
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ok now back to the topic...any rebels wana take a crack at gummy and post it??

So to go back off topic and throw my two cents in.
I think its more of them wanting people to learn to do it the proper way.
Marcus, for example, did this with MIUI and has continued to do so for a while.
He is rather young just yet, and has a TON of potential to get in and learn the real code.
Smali is machine code. Smali is rather hard to explain, read, and visualize.
Kanging by winzip is damn easy file coping. But if you run into bugs, how do you fix it?
Smali code editing? Copy DIFFERENT files over? That's quite impossible and is harder than it needs to be.
The CM9 Devs, I'm sure, do not give a rats ass what you do with their official .zips.
What they do care about is learning and growing the community.
I feel they gave you both, Marcus and xBox, a hard time because they want you to learn the correct tools and the proper process... Not for them, but for the community and yourselves.
You both get into learning C++, Java, etc... You both will make outstanding Devs. You'll help yourselves, the CM9 team, and the community.
That's my opinion. If its totally off base, oh well. I am not speaking for the team. This has not been discussed with me. I have merely been reading what's been available on the forums. Take it or leave it... They want you to learn

I been a member too long...

i been a member here since i got my hd2 n learn of all the wonderful things i can do, i seen so awesome roms the these devs develop free of charge with all the awesome feature, now im gonna to become one n join the fun, my goal is to make asop or port over one of the nexus asop roms over too the T989 i just hope i get the support (n maybe some help) from the community

Yeaaaah buddy! Wish I had the time to give it a whirl! Best of luck!
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Jrude2262 said:
i been a member here since i got my hd2 n learn of all the wonderful things i can do, i seen so awesome roms the these devs develop free of charge with all the awesome feature, now im gonna to become one n join the fun, my goal is to make asop or port over one of the nexus asop roms over too the T989 i just hope i get the support (n maybe some help) from the community
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Looking forward to it. Btw its aosp
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yeislak said:
Looking forward to it. Btw its aosp
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LMAO that doesn't give me alot of hope. Just messing, OP i wish you luck in your endeavors!

2011? Long time? Lol...
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I appreciate your enthusiasm, and I only speak for myself, but I think most people here will be running AOKP, CM9, MIUI, or Chimera once the minor issues with those are ironed out. Unless you are planning to offer something different than those, I don't know if your work would be fully appreciated.
Not trying to be a d*ck, just being honest. I wouldn't want you to spend your time working on a rom that nobody is going to use.

droid75 said:
I appreciate your enthusiasm, and I only speak for myself, but I think most people here will be running AOKP, CM9, MIUI, or Chimera once the minor issues with those are ironed out. Unless you are planning to offer something different than those, I don't know if your work would be fully appreciated.
Not trying to be a d*ck, just being honest. I wouldn't want you to spend your time working on a rom that nobody is going to use.
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Ignore everything this guy just said..
Yes we have some of the best roms available .. but those are only that great because of the developers who make them.
My advice is build and learn and ignore the haters .. maybe one day you'll have the next great rom.
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droid75 said:
I appreciate your enthusiasm, and I only speak for myself, but I think most people here will be running AOKP, CM9, MIUI, or Chimera once the minor issues with those are ironed out. Unless you are planning to offer something different than those, I don't know if your work would be fully appreciated.
Not trying to be a d*ck, just being honest. I wouldn't want you to spend your time working on a rom that nobody is going to use.
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to kind of continue this response and if you've never done a rom, you may be better off pulling the aokp or cm code and working on killing some bugs first. i'm sure there is plenty to work on. or maybe just do a kernel for one of those (i don't think there is a single oc kernel for either yet).

Jrude2262 said:
i been a member here since i got my hd2 n learn of all the wonderful things i can do, i seen so awesome roms the these devs develop free of charge with all the awesome feature, now im gonna to become one n join the fun, my goal is to make asop or port over one of the nexus asop roms over too the T989 i just hope i get the support (n maybe some help) from the community
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Cool story bro. Needs moar dragons n ****
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droid75 said:
I appreciate your enthusiasm, and I only speak for myself, but I think most people here will be running AOKP, CM9, MIUI, or Chimera once the minor issues with those are ironed out. Unless you are planning to offer something different than those, I don't know if your work would be fully appreciated.
Not trying to be a d*ck, just being honest. I wouldn't want you to spend your time working on a rom that nobody is going to use.
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I would try out anything if it looked good. TDJ, Cyn, and huge developers wouldn't have made it anywhere if they were to take your advice. Go play in traffic.

I've been here since the T-Mobile MDA days.

Okay I'm not a noob per say, I know my way around. I'm 19 and in college getting a bachelor's in computer engineering. Like most of us other I'm the person people come for help with anything related to technology.
But recently I've been feeling like a huge n00b haha. I found a really good dev and he's only THIRTEEN. I feel like I've waisted my time lol.
I'm also starting to think of porting my own roms and what not to my phone.
Along with this great community I hope I am a to become a great developer.
So I know exactly how you feel. I've been a member since 2010 and altho gh I've come a long way there is always room for improvement.
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IRIE4IPIER said:
I've been here since the T-Mobile MDA days.
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I have been here since cingular 8125 days

Been here Since my TMobile wing .it had 12mb lol of ram and found this wonderful site! changed the page pool and bam more ram. next thing you know I'm a flashing junkie and there's no 12 step program for it.
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Hmm been here since the MDA Wizard...

[Donation] Official support for CM when we raise enough for Codeworkx

Okay guys here's what's up. We have finally convinced codeworkx to official support our device for CM, but he will only be willing to if we can raise the money to buy him the device. We've already done this before to bring DaGr8 to our thread, and I know many of us would be willing to contribute here as well as we would like to have official support for CyanogenMod. I will be posting this in the AT&T and T-mobile threads to spread the word and hopefully raise the funds faster.
i think it would be better to keep the donation tally and posts all to the ATT thread to make it easier to maintain, here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2094919
Here's the irc chat log where codeworkz agreed to support us:
<codeworkx> sure. we can give it a try. it's similar to my i9300
<rhcp> So if i can get these guys to donate the cash to buy you a note2 LTE
<rhcp> you will?
<rhcp> please be 100% sure
<rhcp> don't want to crush these guys
<codeworkx> if i get a device, i'll maintain it
<rhcp> k
Let's get together as a community and get this done :laugh:
*Since this will be posted in different threads, I will not be able to maintain who donates and not, so don't expect your name posted in a list of donators on the OP*
*Also he plans on buying the i317, which is the AT&T version*

Honestly we have many great devs here already. We got a paranoid ported rom which is more than enough for me. We have an AOKP rom so that satisfies me. We dont really need an extra dev atm. Usually I woukd donate if it was a small community without many devs. But for the tmobile note 2 we got plenty of amazing devs. We can even use the att roms.
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phreshjoker said:
Honestly we have many great devs here already. We got a paranoid ported rom which is more than enough for me. We have an AOKP rom so that satisfies me. We dont really need an extra dev atm. Usually I woukd donate if it was a small community without many devs. But for the tmobile note 2 we got plenty of amazing devs. We can even use the att roms.
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True, but folks like codeworkx make it happen you know? All the cm based roms will be better with him onboard IMO.
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phreshjoker said:
Honestly we have many great devs here already. We got a paranoid ported rom which is more than enough for me. We have an AOKP rom so that satisfies me. We dont really need an extra dev atm. Usually I woukd donate if it was a small community without many devs. But for the tmobile note 2 we got plenty of amazing devs. We can even use the att roms.
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You can't make phone calls on any aosp roms... Get no voice or robot voice most of the time. .. We need him!
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pickneters said:
You can't make phone calls on any aosp roms.
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Sorry, but not true

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Sorry, but not true
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Yeah he is wrong about what he said, call audio works fine on madmacks cm10 build I never had a problem with his latest version, only on PA and Aokp did I get the three call bug randomly after a reboot. the problem now is that google made changes to 4.2 that wont allow madmack to use the audio HAL's from samsung firmware to get around the call audio problem. So in order to get work cm10.1 he and now codeworkx are going to need to write their own files to get it working which would have been extremely tough for madmack doing it all himself
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farfromovin said:
True, but folks like codeworkx make it happen you know? All the cm based roms will be better with him onboard IMO.
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I very much agree. CM right now is very buggy. No so bad you can't use it but not really properly functioning either.
Things only get better with official cm support.

Codework is the best hes the next big guy next to cyanogen. glad to see he got a note 2
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