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I've been thinking about getting this unlocked model that is compatible with AT&T 3G. I was wondering if anyone here has done this, and is there a way to get a sort "US-ified" version of the official HTC ROM that can receive OTA updates.
Thanks.
i'm currently using the A8183 in Canada on the Rogers network, which uses the same freq as AT&T for 3g, works great for me. however, if you wait prob a month or so (or maybe even sooner) Telus/Bell will release a NAM of the Desire, they also use the same freq for 3g (Bell, Telus, Fido, Rogers, and AT&T all use 850/1900 for 3g)
i'm using an A8183 (Telstra) HTC Desire on AT&T... in my opinion, you won't get a US-type ROM without rooting and installing one of the custom ROMs... i'm using the DJDroid Froyo w/Sense ROM and have not had any problems. personally, i don't worry about OTA updates because i'll get them on xda first.
I too have an a8183 on at&t. The only problem is that at&t does operate on 1900 mhz for 3g, but 850 mhz will not completely fallout till the end of the 2010. So If you live in nc, ga, sc, or va . The southeast market. You won't have the 3g because they currently run 1900 mhz 3g. I can still stream music on edge pulling 100 kbs up and down.
Patience is a virtue and locally in NC I have seen an internal ATT map showing many cell site upgrades complete, but they have not switched it on yet for 850mhz.
Latest news is for Atlanta and Manhattan switched on.
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Thanks guys. I think what I'm going to do is wait and see if AT&T comes out with their own version of the Desire this month, like has been rumored.
At&t will not get the desire. I am an employee and waited and waited. We may get the rumored dual core Qualcomm since it was just delivered to HTC and the incredible went to Verizon. So we are next for the bigger one.
There is a Samsung coming out Sunday, but I just love the support for HTC with xda. You will have 850mhz umts by the end of the year if you live in a 3g area.
What state are you in?
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At&t will not get the desire. I am an employee and waited and waited. We may get the rumored dual core Qualcomm since it was just delivered to HTC and the incredible went to Verizon. So we are next for the bigger one.
There is a Samsung coming out Sunday, but I just love the support for HTC with xda. You will have 850mhz umts by the end of the year if you live in a 3g area.
What state are you in?
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I think I may still wait to see what AT&T comes out with from HTC, even if it isn't the Desire. The new Samsung Galaxy S phone on AT&T looks nice, except for the fact that it doesn't have a camera flash. That's a big omission in my opinion.
I'm in Connecticut, where we already have 850 mhz.
Go for it , because gingerbread 3.0 will be a whole new class of devices. Maybe even dedicated graphics cards. But thats about a year away.
Plus the imei is not registered with ATT so you can get away with a 15 dollar data plan. Dude you got 850mhz. Shazam......
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it's probably a good idea to wait. i got an a8183 a couple months ago, i love it but the only reason i got it was because my trusty tilt running eclair was run over and for some reason i didn't want to get a nexus (which is probably what i should have gotten). i was banking on the tilt lasting about another year so i could get on the dual core wagon but no dice. don't get me wrong, i love my desire but with all the cool guy stuff just over the horizon i wish at&t would have released the aria a couple months earlier, so i could have bought a less expensive phone to hold me over til the new stuff came out.
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Go for it , because gingerbread 3.0 will be a whole new class of devices. Maybe even dedicated graphics cards. But thats about a year away.
Plus the imei is not registered with ATT so you can get away with a 15 dollar data plan. Dude you got 850mhz. Shazam......
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I see that Telus just announced they're getting the Desire soon, which will probably run on 850mhz and 1900mhz. So, I'll see what AT&T does and if nothing and the Telus version comes out, I'll get that one.
I live in North Carolina. How can you tell if they are using the 1900 or 850 band for 3g? I found someone selling the HTC Desire for $500/shipped and was going to get it until I saw this thread. Didn't know if there is a way to find out where AT&T had gone to 850 for 3G bands.
RTP area here and we are definitely on 1900 mhz, and will be strictly 850 mhz by the end of the year. Edge is pulling about 100 kbs up and down.
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Hey everyone, i live in brazil and in usa(orlando).
I'm trying to configure my HTc Desire and i can't get 3G connection, only EDGE,
Anyone know if it's possible get 3g connection with HTC DESIRE on AT&T?
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Hey everyone, i live in brazil and in usa(orlando).
I'm trying to configure my HTc Desire and i can't get 3G connection, only EDGE,
Anyone know if it's possible get 3g connection with HTC DESIRE on AT&T?
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Depends what HTC Desire you have. Some can only get certain types of 3G with certain Desires.
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Depends what HTC Desire you have. Some can only get certain types of 3G with certain Desires.
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What desire works with 3g at&t?
And how can i know where is model of my desire?
Thanks.
brenopoubel said:
What desire works with 3g at&t?
And how can i know where is model of my desire?
Thanks.
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Well, there is 2 models of Desire as far as I know; the A8181 (Not AT&T 3G compatible) and the A8183 (Telstra version, compatible with AT&T 3G). If your Desire isn't working with AT&T, then chances are it's an A8181.
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Remove your battery and on the phone lists the model number next to the imei. A8183 is what you need outside of the southeast market until 2011.
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There appear to be 3 models of the 'classic' Desire:
A8181 - Euro version with 900mhz/2100mhz UMTS/WCDMA
A8182 - North American version with SLCD screen and 850mhz/1900mhz UMTS/WCDMA
A8183 - North American / Australian version with AMOLED screen and 850mhz/1900mhz UMTS/WCDMA
Hope that helps!
I'm using a htc desire A8183 in Colombia, and it works beautifully with excellent 3G network speed of navigation and a month ago I got the ota update for Android 2.2 Froy. I'm really happy with the phone
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There appear to be 3 models of the 'classic' Desire:
A8181 - Euro version with 900mhz/2100mhz UMTS/WCDMA
A8182 - North American version with SLCD screen and 850mhz/1900mhz UMTS/WCDMA
A8183 - North American / Australian version with AMOLED screen and 850mhz/1900mhz UMTS/WCDMA
Hope that helps!
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Actually, all the A8183's in Australia being sold have SLCD screens, not AMOLED.
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Hi, I'm seeing conflicting information on whether the quad-core (international) HTC One X supports T-Mobile US's AWS bands. Engadget and other sites are reporting that it does. But HTC's own specs don't mention it.
Does anyone have any light to shed on this?
Thanks, Alan
Yes, HTC One X will support Tmobile's AWS band
Hi, as we do know the T-Mobile HTC One X will debut in early April, for a yet to be released date, though T-Mobile didn't provide exact release date. As you mentioned that HTC' site doesn't give any clue whether it will support AWS band or not. We can say that it will be updated soon for sure, as well as T-Mobile reveals a release date. We suspect that HTC didn't show T-Mobile AWS band as the device is only available for pre-order from various retailers, so it will update it soon as well as T-Mobile reports.
I'd really like to know the answer to this question also. To add to the confusion, HTC's site for the AT&T version of the One X (Called the One XL) does show that it will support AWS: www.htc.com/us/products/htconex-att#tech-specs
It doesn't make a lot of sense to me why the AT&T specific version would support AWS for T-Mobile (never seen that before in an AT&T specific phone). In the past it was usually the international version that supported AWS. I don't see any of the various phone/gadget blogs mentioning this about the AT&T version either.
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Hi, as we do know the T-Mobile HTC One X will debut in early April, for a yet to be released date, though T-Mobile didn't provide exact release date. As you mentioned that HTC' site doesn't give any clue whether it will support AWS band or not. We can say that it will be updated soon for sure, as well as T-Mobile reveals a release date. We suspect that HTC didn't show T-Mobile AWS band as the device is only available for pre-order from various retailers, so it will update it soon as well as T-Mobile reports.
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I don't understand what you're talking about here. There's no T-Mobile HTC One X. T-Mobile is getting the One S (the lesser midrange handset). That's what was announced at MWC this week, to appear in the spring.
For what it's worth, here's a rumor that T-Mobile will get the HTC One X in the summer (with the Tegra 3 quad-core cpu and stock Android even).
www.androidandme.com/2012/02/smartp...e-to-get-stock-android-4-0-and-quad-core-cpu/
I'm wondering myself does Tegra 3 Quad core support AWS band and if so does it support HSPA +42 or HSPA +21? Also is it the One X Terga coming to Tmobile Usa or One XL Snapdragron coming to Tmobile USA? Like another poster said the HTC website shows the AWS band for One XL under AT&T but no AWS band for One X under international version.
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Come to think about it somebody posted the build prop file for the HTC Endeavor aka HTC One X and it did not list compatibility with AWS band.
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This is a bit of speculation on my part, but it could be that AT&T ordered the HTC One X to be compatible with T-Mobile's AWS since they predicted that the merge was going to go through. Lets not forget that AT&T and T-Mobile do have new roaming agreements after the merger fell through.
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This is a bit of speculation on my part, but it could be that AT&T ordered the HTC One X to be compatible with T-Mobile's AWS since they predicted that the merge was going to go through. Lets not forget that AT&T and T-Mobile do have new roaming agreements after the merger fell through.
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That makes a lot of sense. Seems plausible.
Don't know if it means anything, but GSMArena now lists the AT&T One X as having AWS (I assume they probably just pulled it from the HTC site and I do find that GSMArena's stats can be a little unreliable):
www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x_at&t-4614.php
I'd hate to have to have an AT&T branded phone to get AWS though. I like the unbranded phones.
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Hmm. There's also this story, from yesterday (and spreading rapidly), that quad-core variant of the One X has cleared the FCC, headed to an unknown carrier:
www.pocketnow.com/android/quad-core-htc-one-x-gets-fcc-certified
And this rumor from a week ago that T-Mobile will get a stock Android version of the One X:
www.androidandme.com/2012/02/smartp...e-to-get-stock-android-4-0-and-quad-core-cpu/
From what I read this morning, international version of the One X will be with AT&T. Therefore, the chance of One X being available on T-Mobile dropped, but its not for sure until CTIA in May. Hopefully they'll announce something.
Other than that, T-Mobile customer may be able to use international version of the One X on T-Mobile someday. Since T-Mobile may or may not be refarming their 1900 GSM spectrum. If they do refarm it to 1900 UMTS, then I'll be one happy T-Mobile customer.
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From what I read this morning, international version of the One X will be with AT&T.
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Where are you getting this? It's well known the AT&T is not getting the international version, but rather a different version with a Qualcomm dual-core processor, to accomodate AT&T's LTE network. Even HTC's own website list's a separate AT&T version of the One X, from the international version.
Also, if you look earlier in this thread, the AT&T version in the specs on HTC's website support's T-Mobile's AWS frequencies. So there may be more than one avenue to get a One X that works on T-Mobile.
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Therefore, the chance of One X being available on T-Mobile dropped, but its not for sure until CTIA in May.
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Again, where are you reading this? Can you provide a link to the information?
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Where are you getting this? It's well known the AT&T is not getting the international version, but rather a different version with a Qualcomm dual-core processor, to accomodate AT&T's LTE network. Even HTC's own website list's a separate AT&T version of the One X, from the international version.
Also, if you look earlier in this thread, the AT&T version in the specs on HTC's website support's T-Mobile's AWS frequencies. So there may be more than one avenue to get a One X that works on T-Mobile.
Again, where are you reading this? Can you provide a link to the information?
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First, I've worded it wrong regarding the international version. I meant to say that the international version is compatible with AT&T. Won't be offered on AT&T, but the UMTS bands has 1900/2100 on it so it could be used on AT&T.
HTC One X
I think I might have missed the AWS spectrums for the XL. Personally I don't think I would put too much hope into it, because the XL for AT&T is meant to focus on LTE. If you look on the T-Mobile Reinvigorated Challenger Strategy Presentation, AT&T's AWS also ties into their LTE.
T-Mobile's refarming their GSM 1900mhz, hopefully to UMTS 1900mhz. If that's the case, T-Mobile users will still have a chance to use One X or One XL on T-Mobile.
T-Mobile USA Reinvigorated Challenger Strategy Presentation
There's also rumors that One X will be coming to Sprint and to T-Mobile as the G4X. The time the possibility of announcement is probably in May.
Rumor
So I'm trying to hold out till May to see if I could see an announcement. If not, I think I might be getting the international version of One X, then wait patiently and hoping T-Mobile will hurry up and refarm the 1900 spectrum. There's also words that the refarming has already been going on, with more iPhone users noticing that they could get 3G speed.
Thanks for the further explanation and links. I could be wrong, but it still seems to me like the AT&T One XL might work on T-Mobile. If you look at the specs on HTC's website, you can see that it has AWS not just for LTE, but also for WCDMA (i.e. UMTS).
www.htc.com/us/products/htconex-att#tech-specs
I don't see why that wouldn't work with T-Mobile. As nickmgray points out above, it's plausible that AT&T specified the bands for the One XL, before they knew that the T-Mobile merger was going to fall through. Hence at the time, they may have wanted a phone that would work with T-Mobile's network.
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There's also rumors that One X will be coming to Sprint and to T-Mobile as the G4X. The time the possibility of announcement is probably in May.
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Yes, I linked to the original source of that rumor above.
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I'm not holding my breath on the spectrum refarming being a solution for the One X. Unfortunately I can't remember where I first read about it, but my understanding is that it will take a couple years. At that point there will certainly be more compelling phones than the One X.
Also, if you look at the charts in the link you provide to the T-Mobile Strategy Presentation, you can see that even after the refarming, it appears T-Mobile will still be using AWS for HSPA+, as well as for LTE. So it seems that a phone that does not have the AWS bands could suffer significant coverage issues. T-Mobile's goal in the document seems to be to make the network better for in-bound international roaming and more compatible with devices from other carriers. But a phone without AWS for a U.S. resident would still be limited.
It would be nice though if international and AT&T phones were fully compatible with T-Mobile's network. That would give T-Mobile a nice advantage with handset options; and a good way to tempt away AT&T customers (who could then keep the phones they already have). But, again, it seems like this is something for the future and not a way to count on using the One X with T-Mobile.
I'm hoping HTC will just make an international version with the AWS bands, as is the case with the Sensation. Or it would be great if they put a pentaband radio in the international version, like Nokia has been doing for a while. Or maybe the Tegra-3 One X for T-Mobile rumor will turn out to be true.
I actually like the size of the One S better. But it's not worth it to me without the 720p resolution and 16 Gb of memory (without a microsd expansion slot).
Just looked at the FCC's documents on AT&T's One X.
The document doesn't mention testing any of T-Mobile's bands. Don't know if they didn't test it, or the phone don't have it.
AT&T One X FCC
SAR Report 1 is the network frenquency band testing document.
Here's more on T-Mobile's 4G expansion, LTE deployment, and 1900 spectrum refarming.
T-Mobile Blog: T-Mobile Expands 4G Network to New Cities
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Just looked at the FCC's documents on AT&T's One X.
The document doesn't mention testing any of T-Mobile's bands. Don't know if they didn't test it, or the phone don't have it.
AT&T One X FCC
SAR Report 1 is the network frenquency band testing document.
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Thanks for the link. I'm not sure what to make of that. For example, they only list GSM 850 and 1900 frequencies. It would be really unusual for a phone these days like this not to be quad-band GSM. So it seems like the FCC report is probably not listing all the bands the phone can operate on, only those that it will use with the AT&T network. I'm not sure this really answers the question about AWS in the AT&T One XL.
What about the One X with the tegra-3 processor that went through the FCC? Do you know where the report for that is? I can't really see how to search the FCC website.
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Here's more on T-Mobile's 4G expansion, LTE deployment, and 1900 spectrum refarming.
T-Mobile Blog: T-Mobile Expands 4G Network to New Cities
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Thanks for the link. Again, this doesn't really indicate that T-Mobile is completely refarming HSPA+ to 1900 Mhz. It just says, "A nice side benefit of the refarming effort is that our 4G network will be compatible with a broader range of devices, including the iPhone." The fact that more different devices will technically work on the network, does not mean that they will get the same coverage as devices that work on both 1900 Mhz and AWS. As the other document you linked to indicates, after the refarming HSPA+ will be on both 1900 Mhz and AWS, so it may mean that if you want the best coverage on T-Mobile's network, you need a phone covering both frequencies. Time will tell I guess, but it doesn't seem clear yet.
And, as I said, this is so far down the road to completion (they're starting now, but it will take a couple years to complete) that I don't see it as being a good solution for using a One X that lacks the AWS bands on the T-Mobile network.
Took a while, but I found the international version of the One X on FCC.
One X FCC
Looking at the model number and matching with other site, it looks like it's the one. The only problem is, it doesn't show any frequency testings. I also looked up the One S and found 3 model numbers, seems like only the one coming to US is the one with the frequency testings.
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Took a while, but I found the international version of the One X on FCC.
One X FCC
Looking at the model number and matching with other site, it looks like it's the one. The only problem is, it doesn't show any frequency testings. I also looked up the One S and found 3 model numbers, seems like only the one coming to US is the one with the frequency testings.
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Thanks for finding that. I guess we're just stuck waiting to see what's what when the devices actually get released.
I'm looking to buy the one x in the u.s and I'm using t-mobile was wondering if anybody can confirm it getting hspa+ or fast data?
How hard is it to search? There is five threads on this every single day. The international version will NOT receive 3G on T-Mobile. Ever.
It will work on att though. You best bet is one s.
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engadget posted a great article indicating both, international One X & S will NOT operate on T Mo USA's 3g/4g network.
T Mobile IS set to release their version of the One S fully optimized for their network, but you already knew that
The only way to get high speed data on the international One X on T Mo USA is if they go forward and refarm the 1900 MHz frequency to 3g. Currently, only a very small handful of cities are runnimg 3g on this frequency.
Hi everybody, I am going to live in the US for a semester and I want an american number. I found the possibility of buying a Sim Card on T-Mobile and use it with my unlocked phone. The problem is that my phone does not appear in the list of compatible phones. My phone is HTC Desire (Bravo), European model. In the box it appears the following: GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 and HDSPA/WCDMA 900/2100.
Will I get 3G? I've talked to several operators, each one tells me a different thing. There was even one who asked for my IMEI and told me 3G would work 100% sure. Others tell me that I won't only get EDGE speed.
Who can clarify this? It is REALLY important. I LOVE my cellphone, I don't want one of those prepaid phones that are crap, I'd only buy another phone if it would be better than mine, but they are really expensive and it has no sense to buy a cellphone for 4 months when I have one cellphone that I love.
WHAT CAN I DO? I will use data on a daily basis to connect with my family overseas!
Most of US carriers use 850 and 1900MHz for GSM and 1700 and 1900 for HSPA and WCDMA, so I think you won't have luck with 3G, but the rest will do perfectly.
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I plan on buying the International version of the HTC One X pretty soon, like next week ish and I was wanted to know if anyone here can help me decipher all these weird codes and what not. I plan on switching to Simple Mobile when I get the phone and I wanted to know if anyone can give me an estimate of the speeds I would get on it. Apparently Sim. Mob. and T Mobile are sister companies so I think they use the same bands but I'm not really sure. I have been scouring the internet for days and if someone could just give me a simple answer I'd greatly appreciate it. If it helps, I live in Houston TX and on their website it says "Only phones with 1700/2100 AWS band work on our 3G network." and they have approved the HTC One S for customer use but not the HTC One X so idk if they have the same specs in regards to bands and speed. Like I said any help would be greatly appreciated. Please and thank you.
I have no experience with simple mobile but given it appears to be a t-mobile MVNO I will tell you about my t-mobile (US) experience.
The HTC one X international is NOT a good idea on t-mobile. I use t-mobile when I come into the US. The short version is that on the international HTC One X on t-mo data is unlikely to work at all. Here are the problems.
1. Sim type. T-mobile uses/sells a type of sim that electrically will not allow it to work with the international HTC one X for data. Edge, 3G, anything. http://androidforums.com/htc-one-x-xl/533805-new-t-mobile-sim-issues-unlocked-htc-one-x.html
2. Bands. The international one X does not support the 1700 band. Period. You will not be able to do 3G unless t-mobile cuts over its bands which they have done in a few markets but not many. If you could find the old style sim (non gba) as mentioned in point 1 you would be able to do edge (2G) only. Maybe Simple Mobile has non-gba sims but I doubt it.
I have had the standard t-mobile sim in my one X as recently as last week and it supports voice and texting just fine. data is a no go.
I have NOT tried this but people say that straight talk (AT&T MVNO) works.
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I plan on buying the International version of the HTC One X pretty soon, like next week ish and I was wanted to know if anyone here can help me decipher all these weird codes and what not. I plan on switching to Simple Mobile when I get the phone and I wanted to know if anyone can give me an estimate of the speeds I would get on it. Apparently Sim. Mob. and T Mobile are sister companies so I think they use the same bands but I'm not really sure. I have been scouring the internet for days and if someone could just give me a simple answer I'd greatly appreciate it. If it helps, I live in Houston TX and on their website it says "Only phones with 1700/2100 AWS band work on our 3G network." and they have approved the HTC One S for customer use but not the HTC One X so idk if they have the same specs in regards to bands and speed. Like I said any help would be greatly appreciated. Please and thank you.
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I've used my International One X on T-Moble, the last time I did it was on Saturday when I visited Buffalo, NY (I'm from Canada).
emoose made some good points but I'll add my experience to his comments:
1. The default sim they provide did NOT work for data. The store I went to found an older sim which was meant for a Lumina (SP??) phone and it worked. The CSR told me I was very lucky as they don't normally stock these sims.
2. I was able to use 3G as they had coverage at the mall I was at but the CSR told me not to expect it elsewhere.
For me this works out great as I visit the US once every few months and at $2/day it's a steal even if I only have Edge, slow data is better than no data. If I were living in the US or if I were to visit more often then perhaps a Galaxy Nexus would be a better choice as I believe it works on all US GSM carriers (Anyone correct me if I'm wrong, I'm just from what I understand from the specs).