I plan on buying the International version of the HTC One X pretty soon, like next week ish and I was wanted to know if anyone here can help me decipher all these weird codes and what not. I plan on switching to Simple Mobile when I get the phone and I wanted to know if anyone can give me an estimate of the speeds I would get on it. Apparently Sim. Mob. and T Mobile are sister companies so I think they use the same bands but I'm not really sure. I have been scouring the internet for days and if someone could just give me a simple answer I'd greatly appreciate it. If it helps, I live in Houston TX and on their website it says "Only phones with 1700/2100 AWS band work on our 3G network." and they have approved the HTC One S for customer use but not the HTC One X so idk if they have the same specs in regards to bands and speed. Like I said any help would be greatly appreciated. Please and thank you.
I have no experience with simple mobile but given it appears to be a t-mobile MVNO I will tell you about my t-mobile (US) experience.
The HTC one X international is NOT a good idea on t-mobile. I use t-mobile when I come into the US. The short version is that on the international HTC One X on t-mo data is unlikely to work at all. Here are the problems.
1. Sim type. T-mobile uses/sells a type of sim that electrically will not allow it to work with the international HTC one X for data. Edge, 3G, anything. http://androidforums.com/htc-one-x-xl/533805-new-t-mobile-sim-issues-unlocked-htc-one-x.html
2. Bands. The international one X does not support the 1700 band. Period. You will not be able to do 3G unless t-mobile cuts over its bands which they have done in a few markets but not many. If you could find the old style sim (non gba) as mentioned in point 1 you would be able to do edge (2G) only. Maybe Simple Mobile has non-gba sims but I doubt it.
I have had the standard t-mobile sim in my one X as recently as last week and it supports voice and texting just fine. data is a no go.
I have NOT tried this but people say that straight talk (AT&T MVNO) works.
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I plan on buying the International version of the HTC One X pretty soon, like next week ish and I was wanted to know if anyone here can help me decipher all these weird codes and what not. I plan on switching to Simple Mobile when I get the phone and I wanted to know if anyone can give me an estimate of the speeds I would get on it. Apparently Sim. Mob. and T Mobile are sister companies so I think they use the same bands but I'm not really sure. I have been scouring the internet for days and if someone could just give me a simple answer I'd greatly appreciate it. If it helps, I live in Houston TX and on their website it says "Only phones with 1700/2100 AWS band work on our 3G network." and they have approved the HTC One S for customer use but not the HTC One X so idk if they have the same specs in regards to bands and speed. Like I said any help would be greatly appreciated. Please and thank you.
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I've used my International One X on T-Moble, the last time I did it was on Saturday when I visited Buffalo, NY (I'm from Canada).
emoose made some good points but I'll add my experience to his comments:
1. The default sim they provide did NOT work for data. The store I went to found an older sim which was meant for a Lumina (SP??) phone and it worked. The CSR told me I was very lucky as they don't normally stock these sims.
2. I was able to use 3G as they had coverage at the mall I was at but the CSR told me not to expect it elsewhere.
For me this works out great as I visit the US once every few months and at $2/day it's a steal even if I only have Edge, slow data is better than no data. If I were living in the US or if I were to visit more often then perhaps a Galaxy Nexus would be a better choice as I believe it works on all US GSM carriers (Anyone correct me if I'm wrong, I'm just from what I understand from the specs).
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Hey, Ive had the Htc Hero for a few weeks, and i was wondering if it was possible to make a hack or something so 3g will work on the us 3g bands. Or will we have to wait until they release a gsm unlocked north American Htc hero. Please get back soon.
You'll have to wait because the HTC Hero only has the 900/2100 bands for 3G while the required bands are 850/1900 in the United States. Sorry.
Im thinking this will show up on Roger's in Canada (uses AT&T Compatible 850/1900) before it actually shows up from AT&T.
Ebay.ca would be the way to go.
I believe it might show up on AT&T sooner than we all think
A version with AT&T 3G bands have already passed the FCC (as well as a version with EvDo bands for Sprint) so it looks like 2 North American carriers are poised for some Hero lovin'. Frankly, I'm ready for either an AT&T Hero or a Sprint Hero as I use both carriers.
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You'll have to wait because the HTC Hero only has the 900/2100 bands for 3G while the required bands are 850/1900 in the United States. Sorry.
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according to the htc site, the hero is quad band. I'm able to get a hero from asia and was wondering the same thing.
http://www.htc.com/www/product/hero/specification.html
it should work with at&t and should not lock you into an expensive plan like the iphone if you get it unlocked.
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according to the htc site, the hero is quad band. I'm able to get a hero from asia and was wondering the same thing.
http://www.htc.com/www/product/hero/specification.html
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Quad band for GSM, not for HSDPA/WCDMA. Hero will currently work in the US, but Edge is the best you'll get.
Regards,
Dave
My friends there is a US 3G that should hit the streets soon. its called HTC HERO 130(US). the Euro version is Htc Hero 100.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1966&c=htc_hero_us_htc_hero_130
Enjoy !
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My friends there is a US 3G that should hit the streets soon. its called HTC HERO 130(US). the Euro version is Htc Hero 100.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1966&c=htc_hero_us_htc_hero_130
Enjoy !
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Is this a fact?
Ironically, yes and no!
It is called Hero, but it isn't the same Hero as we have in Europe.
http://newsreleases.sprint.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=220644&p=imageGalleryCategoryDetail&t=MI&MICategoryId=16507&
Spec wise, it is much the same (bands not withstanding), but I far prefer the look of the original Hero.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Ironically, yes and no!
It is called Hero, but it isn't the same Hero as we have in Europe.
http://newsreleases.sprint.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=220644&p=imageGalleryCategoryDetail&t=MI&MICategoryId=16507&
Spec wise, it is much the same (bands not withstanding), but I far prefer the look of the original Hero.
Regards,
Dave
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Thats the Hero 200 not the Hero 130.
Its just a matter of time before we can use it on AT&T Network
Sorry guys, but the HTC Hero is exclusive to Sprint in the United States - http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/htc-hero-heading-to-sprint-october-11-for-179-99-no-chin/
Your best bet for a GSM Hero that works on AT&T's 3g is to wait for Rogers(GSM) in Canada to get it. Rogers has non google branded phones like the Magic(MyTouch 3g) and the Dream(G1). Thats just my thought and I could be wrong. But thats your last sign of hope for now. Plus Bell in Canada is getting the Palm Pre, so Rogers having a Hero is a nice fighting power to go against the Pre.
And lets put an end to this.... No European and Asian GSM HTC Hero will not have 3g in the US, only Edge!!! Theirs no hacks or anything that will work... We dont need more threads asking the same questions over and over.
One more thing came to mind. If AT&T and HTC take the SenseUI and put it onto a new android phone and called it something different.... Then you can have your Hero.. I dont see that happening this year. AT&T still has to release the Fortress(Touch Pro2) and Warhawk(Diamond2) still this year.
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Sorry guys, but the HTC Hero is exclusive to Sprint in the United States - http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/htc-hero-heading-to-sprint-october-11-for-179-99-no-chin/
Your best bet for a GSM Hero that works on AT&T's 3g is to wait for Rogers(GSM) in Canada to get it. Rogers has non google branded phones like the Magic(MyTouch 3g) and the Dream(G1). Thats just my thought and I could be wrong. But thats your last sign of hope for now. Plus Bell in Canada is getting the Palm Pre, so Rogers having a Hero is a nice fighting power to go against the Pre.
And lets put an end to this.... No European and Asian GSM HTC Hero will not have 3g in the US, only Edge!!! Theirs no hacks or anything that will work... We dont need more threads asking the same questions over and over.
One more thing came to mind. If AT&T and HTC take the SenseUI and put it onto a new android phone and called it something different.... Then you can have your Hero.. I dont see that happening this year. AT&T still has to release the Fortress(Touch Pro2) and Warhawk(Diamond2) still this year.
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No one is saying that ATT will get the HERO. We are saying that there will be 850Mhz WDMA version that works on ATT 3G network. It could be very much like you said Rogers Canada. again, there will be HERO 130 that supports ATT 3G network.
does anyone know if the sprint hero will be able to be rooted? i have heard that it will not be possible. please respond thank you.
850 3g ready!
http://www.importgsm.com/product.php?productid=660&cat=0&page=1
It seems some people are wrong... there is a US 3g version of the Hero, as HTC does have a US 3g version of the magic/ mytouch (sold by Rogers)...
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http://www.importgsm.com/product.php?productid=660&cat=0&page=1
It seems some people are wrong... there is a US 3g version of the Hero, as HTC does have a US 3g version of the magic/ mytouch (sold by Rogers)...
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This has been covered in this forum many many times already. You don't have to dig up old threads and then add in some wrong information.
The AT&T 3G capable (850/1900) Hero is carried by Canadian carrier Telus, NOT Rogers. The phone is available from their website directly for CAD$499 + tax, without contract. They don't ship outside Canada, and people have reported that their local Telus stores do not sell them without opening a line. Some said that it could be purchased without contract at BestBuy (in Canada of course).
A friend (who lives in Canada) of mine helped me to get one. It is unbranded, but sim locked to Telus. Unlock code can be purchased on eBay for slightly over 20 bucks. Mine now works with AT&T 3G flawlessly. Note that the difference between this Hero and the European Hero, is in hardware. No ROM flashing will enable 850/1900 for 3G on the European Hero.
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http://www.importgsm.com/product.php?productid=660&cat=0&page=1
It seems some people are wrong... there is a US 3g version of the Hero, as HTC does have a US 3g version of the magic/ mytouch (sold by Rogers)...
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BTW, the support of the band 850 alone will not enable a phone to use AT&T 3G network. It requires BOTH 850 and 1900 together.
Yup i'm from toronto and under contract with Rogers. I bought a Telus HTC Hero and unlocked it and it works perfect with Rogers. I took a trip down to NYC and it works on AT&T 3G with no problems.
850/1900 VS. 900/2100 for 3G
I belive that hardware wise - they're not really different.
we already saw in the past hacks (for WM phones) to "enable" more bands.
I believe that HTC blocks part of the bands to complete certification faster (FCC, ETSI etc), and it can be tricked... once we'll have "US 3G" radio, we'll be able to play with it, and compare to "Europenian 3G" radio.
Tomer
tomerbn said:
I belive that hardware wise - they're not really different.
we already saw in the past hacks (for WM phones) to "enable" more bands.
I believe that HTC blocks part of the bands to complete certification faster (FCC, ETSI etc), and it can be tricked... once we'll have "US 3G" radio, we'll be able to play with it, and compare to "Europenian 3G" radio.
Tomer
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Sorry but this is not the case. Rogers version of Dream and Magic have been out for long time already. Have you heard of any case where people can get European or T-Mobile versions of these phones to work on AT&T 3G?
1. The European Hero does not share the same hardware part number with the Telus Hero. The former is HERO100 and the latter is HERO130. Note that this part number is independent of the ROM installed. Asian Heros (Hong Kong, Taiwan, China etc), all have different ROMs but they are all HERO100.
2. Your "certification theory" is wrong. This type of certification doesn't work that way. Adding another chip to support 2 more bands won't delay the certification by months. Days, at most, if at all.
3. Continued from 2. The HERO100 was never sent to FCC for certification. I have both phones with me right now, and there is no FCC certification logo on the HERO100 hardware or on the box, while the FCC logo is easily spotted on the HERO130.
4. People on the other thread had report dialing problems flashing HERO100 radio rom onto HERO130. The problem went away by flashing a newer HERO100 (but no one knows where it came from) radio rom, although people are still reporting SMS problem with this radio rom on HERO130. This radio has been reported to work perfectly (indeed, a lot reported better reception) on HERO100. If the HERO100 and the HERO130 share the same hardware, the difference should go away by flashing the same rom. The fact that, with the same rom the HERO130 supports 850/1900 for 3G while the HERO100 doesn't, clearly indicate the difference in hardware.
While it is not impossible for cell phone manufacturers modify radio rom to restrict bands that their phones support, this is very uncommon (Can you name those WinMo device that you mentioned?). On the other hand, almost every cell phone model has various verisons of hardware to support different bands in different countries. A chip that supports fewer bands costs less. When there are enough demand to move sales, it is much more profitable to produce a region specific hardware with a cheaper chip than to write code to restrict the functionality of a more expensive chip that supports bands that that region never needs.
Looked everywhere but have only found a few comments mainly regarding the AT&T network.
I have a AT&T branded Tilt-2 with TP2_Core_Cell_Evo_V3.1_(23127) and am on the T-mobile network.
In my area we have HSDPA and 3G, and my HTC 3G Dash shows those connections and runs from 583K up to 898K.
My Tilt2 on the other hand runs between 36K and a max of 156K (usually its under 50K)
I have tried everything and a ton of different radios and nothing seems to help.
I can't believe I am the only one, and I am sure its in the forum but I havent been able to find it and I have been looking for 2 days now. Does ANYONE know if there is a solution to this or am I stuck with a great looking phone and ROM that is slower than my old HTC Universal.
So I am starting this thread with the keywords in the title to help others find the info/help/cab/settings to fix this issue.
Any help would be appreciated..
Charles
Can I assume from the deafening silence that there is no solution and this would be why I couldn't find anything when I was searching all over the forums.
I thought AT&T and T-mobile use different bands for their 3G...haven't met anyone yet that can switch between these two and get the others' 3G service to work on the phone from the other...only Edge.
Yep, 3G are are different bands and AT&T's unique.
Most likely, hardware limit and T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 version is what you wanted.
However, for my Tilt 2, I use AT&T Prepaid Pay-as-you-go and get full 3G service and for $20 get 30 days of 100MB data at full speed. The Pay-as-you-go offers a $3.00 per day for unlimited calls during 24 hour period when you choose plan.
But the settings on the phone even show the 2100MHZ band and other stuff.. thought quad band phones were useable on all GSM networks. I guess that must mean the phones are but not the data portion of the phone.
So it would seem I have a really nice looking phone thats about as functional as a Windows 7 computer with a 56K dialup modem. Great...
Anyone on AT&T and have a T-mobile Touch Pro2 that they would like to swap with me.
when you talk about gsm (gprs/edge/2g), there are 4 bands and pretty much all devices can work on those. when it comes to umts (3g/hspa encap) thats where proprietary bands come in. word wide you will have the 900 and 2100 bands, att uses the 850 and 1900 bands, and tmobile uses 1700. what bands a phone is capable of running on depends on the baseband hardware in the phone. theres no way to change this without basically swapping the phone out for the carrier branded device.
cdma like sprint and verizon is another monster...
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thought quad band phones were useable on all GSM networks.
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They do, but working and working optimally are 2 different things. You should always buy a phone to work on the network you use regularly, and be happy it works at all on others when you travel.
Live and learn..
I wonder if anyone out there in the community has a TouchPro2 that they got for use on AT&T and would like to swap..?
Charles
Can't get 3G Either
I'm using an unlocked HTC Touch Pro 2 (Euro Version) on T-Mobile and can only get Edge. The funny hting is that T-mobile is stumped on the issue even though they've seen that I'm using an HTC Touch Pro 2, not the branded T-Mo version. I just started looking into hardware differences tonight and will post whatever I find. I'm glad you started the thread.
T-Mobile HSPA bands
Just confirmed my suspicions.
The branded T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 operates on HSPA/WCDMA on the following bands: 1700/2100 MHz.
The HTC Touch Pro 2 (unbranded) operates on HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz.
So, if you want 3G, you need to stick with the T-Mobile branded phone.
Wow...I never thought I'd hear myself saying those words. *sigh* =(
I actually have a t-mobile branded HTC Touch Pro 2 I use on ATT, if you really wanna swap I'm totally down for that. My email is [email protected] shoot me a message and lets work out how to go about this.
hey peeps, I'm travelling to key west florida next week and would like to kno if I could get a pay and go service with tmobile oe verizon on my dz? rogers wants $25 extra a month for international text which is 100 sent ultd receive. I'm sure I can find something better down there? I'm sim unlocked, I kno tmobile will work but unfamiliar with pricing etc and I know there's a verizon in key west but dunno if they use the same freq bands.
thanks for any info you guys can help with!
cheers
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Can't answer for sure because there can be frequency issues depending on your carrier. But your options are going to be either T-mobile or a regional carrier that covers that area that will give you a prepay SIM. Verizon and Sprint are CDMA aka no SIM and won't work.
Just looked at T-mobile they offer a prepay plan of $30 for a month of service with 1500 talk&text and 30mb of web. You'll have to check coverage though and as I said you need to make sure your DZ will work with the frequencies that T-mo is on, which I think is 1700mhz.
ok I will see what google can find for me thanks for the input! even still at 30 a month I get more than rogers can cover me there. only issue is finding a tmobile store or. like u said a local provider. I will do some searching here in a bit.
if anyone else has any opinions or advice its welcome
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I think the Rogers desire z uses the same 3g as AT&T. If the Rogers phones work on the Bell 3G then this is true.
I 2nd ^^ this guy.
I think rogers is using the same 3G bands as AT&T, so you'd have to....
1. Unlock your DZ
2. Change the APN settings to AT&T
3. Enjoy your trip to florida
I've just bought a Verizon Droid Incredible in ebay and i was wondering if i'm gonna be able to use it with my t-mobile sim card?
In case I can not use it, how can I unlock the cellphone?
Sorry if it is a stupid question, i hope you can help me guys!
Well the incredible doesnt have a SIM Card slot so im gonna go with no, but i may be wrong.
No, you can't, T-Mobile is a GSM band company in the US, and the Droid Incredible is a CDMA compatible phone.
so, there is no way to use the Droid Incredible in t-mobile??, which cellphone with the same characteristics and price do you recommend me??. Taking into account that I bought the incredible for $175. I'm living in Florida but I live also in Spain, so it has to be a cellphone that I can use in both places.
Thank you!!
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so, there is no way to use the Droid Incredible in t-mobile??, which cellphone with the same characteristics and price do you recommend me??. Taking into account that I bought the incredible for $175. I'm living in Florida but I live also in Spain, so it has to be a cellphone that I can use in both places.
Thank you!!
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T-Mobile uses 1700, 1900 and 2100 bands (according to Wikipedia), So if you decide that you would like to continue to use 3G in Spain, then you should subscribe to a network there with equal bands. If that isn't important to you then I think (someone correct me if I'm wrong) that you could get away with using an AT&T phone for Voice and SMS like some do here with iPhones on T-Mobile.
PhoneArena.Com is a great website that displays technical information about phones, ie supported Bands. and also allows comparisons between them.
My personal suggestion is if you enjoy an Android phone with a form of HTC software like Verizons Droid Incredible then T-Mobiles MyTouch 4G might suffice. Once again this is just my personal opinion though
But I hope this Helps
Thank you!!, but i think that they don't have cdma network in spain, and other thing that i don't understand is why the CDMA cellphones are cheaper than the GSM cellphones if the connection speed in the first one is supposed to be better.
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Thank you!!, but i think that they don't have cdma network in spain, and other thing that i don't understand is why the CDMA cellphones are cheaper than the GSM cellphones if the connection speed in the first one is supposed to be better.
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The prices are determined by the phone's carrier.
I recommend the nexus one if you're on t-mobile and aren't looking to spend too much. Its the phone most like the incredible.
T-Mobile is GSM and the Incredible is on Verizon which is CDMA so no you can't use it on tmobile. If you want something like the Inc on Tmobile I would go with the G2 or Nexus S.
Regarles of the phone you get, get an unlock code from t-mobile so u can be able to use a different sim card other than t-mobile...
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A world phone would also work such as the moto droid 2 or wait for the incredible 2. It is supposed to be a world phone. You could use it on CDMA here and gsm in Spain.
Any way you look at it, you are going to want a global sim card for the country that you are using the phone the least.
Hi everybody, I am going to live in the US for a semester and I want an american number. I found the possibility of buying a Sim Card on T-Mobile and use it with my unlocked phone. The problem is that my phone does not appear in the list of compatible phones. My phone is HTC Desire (Bravo), European model. In the box it appears the following: GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 and HDSPA/WCDMA 900/2100.
Will I get 3G? I've talked to several operators, each one tells me a different thing. There was even one who asked for my IMEI and told me 3G would work 100% sure. Others tell me that I won't only get EDGE speed.
Who can clarify this? It is REALLY important. I LOVE my cellphone, I don't want one of those prepaid phones that are crap, I'd only buy another phone if it would be better than mine, but they are really expensive and it has no sense to buy a cellphone for 4 months when I have one cellphone that I love.
WHAT CAN I DO? I will use data on a daily basis to connect with my family overseas!
Most of US carriers use 850 and 1900MHz for GSM and 1700 and 1900 for HSPA and WCDMA, so I think you won't have luck with 3G, but the rest will do perfectly.
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