Last weekend I was in England and to my surprise I could not find any GSM network with my O2 Xda IIs. (unlocked, Qtek 9090 KPN software).
With my Nokia 6310i (which I luckily brought with me) with the same SIMcard I was able to connect to various UK networks.
In Belgium and France I was also able to connect to the various networks.
Frankly I am baffled. I have checked the IMEI number and the number on the back is the same as the number in Device Information. I have Radio V1.12. Could it be that this Radio version does not include all GSM bands (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHZ) and could that be the reason I could not connect to any network in the UK?
Flavio said:
Last weekend I was in England and to my surprise I could not find any GSM network with my O2 Xda IIs. (unlocked, Qtek 9090 KPN software).
With my Nokia 6310i (which I luckily brought with me) with the same SIMcard I was able to connect to various UK networks.
In Belgium and France I was also able to connect to the various networks.
Frankly I am baffled. I have checked the IMEI number and the number on the back is the same as the number in Device Information. I have Radio V1.12. Could it be that this Radio version does not include all GSM bands (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHZ) and could that be the reason I could not connect to any network in the UK?
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Checking the imei against the one at the back is not enough to say that you phone is not barred..
With due respect.. you need to be sure that your phone is not barred in any way.. the history of the phone (how it was purchased / acquired) is a good indicator of this..
my best regards..
bR
I bought it new in the box from a reputable eBay seller. How can I find out if it is barred?
Flavio,
Have a look at the available 'phone networks and their ordering. My XDA2s lists all the UK and Ireland networks at the bottom and none of them are checked as usable (It is unlocked and will use any SIM however).
This may not be your problem, but next time you are in sunny England, try moving the UK networks up to the top of the list, and make them all checked.
Richard
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Flavio,
Have a look at the available 'phone networks and their ordering. My XDA2s lists all the UK and Ireland networks at the bottom and none of them are checked as usable (It is unlocked and will use any SIM however).
This may not be your problem, but next time you are in sunny England, try moving the UK networks up to the top of the list, and make them all checked.
Richard
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That's the problem. The Xda IIs does not find any networks so there is no list to order!
If you go to settings, phone and chose networks tab, and set networks, there should be a list of available networks. A big list wth check boxes and ordering buttons.
If you don't have this, you may have other problems with your phone.
Richard
Hi Flavio, have you forund a solution to this problem? I have a similar problem on my home network in some locations and I have not been able to solve the problem as yet. I cannot see my home network but I place the SIM in another phone and I am fine.
Hi everyone. Few days ago I bought my HT TOUCH PRO2 from Vodafone Romania. It was network locked. I had some troubles using the 3G connection and the GPS. first I flashed Hard SPL (thanks Olinex) than the last radio found on xda 4.46.25.24. same problems. I thought I have to returnit for service and I restored the original firmware and the radio found on HTC Europe website http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=250&cat=0&dl_id=624 . Big suprise:
1. 3G radio works (not the best signal on HSDPA but working)
2. GPS working like a charm
3. Phone is network unlocked. I tried a Orange sim on it and it works better (I mean I have better HSDPA signal) tha Vodafone.
(PS: I presumed that the phone was network locked because it is write on the top of it's retail box (Functioneaza numai in reteaua Vodafone Romania) This phone is networked locke by Vodafone Romania. Good luck everyone.
Don't forget about Hard SPL. I am using now Energy's Rom. The best for me.
please tell us...
where you are located (what country)
who is your carrier?
are you seeing the 3g or H (high speed data icons)
when you use the rom you're talking about?
thanks!
Romania
Vodafone
I see H when is HSDPA and G when is GPRS (EDGE)
Energy ROM I'm using now
sosa said:
Romania
Vodafone
I see H when is HSDPA and G when is GPRS (EDGE)
Energy ROM I'm using now
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doing a quick google, vodafone seems to have some units are sold unlock by default some are not..
Vodafone UK
Hi,
I have just tried another sim on my Vodafone UK branded phone and it works !!!
I tried an Orange UK sim and it works great.
I am using the Energy ROM.
Could it be that the phone is locked only if you are using the
vodafone ROM itself?
hi guys
its like that, that vodafone is not locking rhodium... i dont know why, but i bouhgt locked & branded tp2 and was quite suprised when i put inside PL orange sim card and its working Btw i debranded it using hero lite'n'sexy rom ;]
regards
ROM doesnt have anything to do with unlocking or 3G capabilities. So if you can use different sims then that means your phone is unlocked. If you get 3G that means, your operator has 3G in that area.
What you mean debranded using hero rom?
kamcio19 said:
hi guys
its like that, that vodafone is not locking rhodium... i dont know why, but i bouhgt locked & branded tp2 and was quite suprised when i put inside PL orange sim card and its working Btw i debranded it using hero lite'n'sexy rom ;]
regards
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You used hero rom on TP2? How
unless...
ai6908 said:
ROM doesnt have anything to do with unlocking or 3G capabilities. So if you can use different sims then that means your phone is unlocked. If you get 3G that means, your operator has 3G in that area.
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unless of course your phone does not have the magic antenna because it's an unbranded tp2 and you're in the usa and your carrier is at&t. then even if you're in middle of manhattan, surrounded by 3g, you don't get it. right?
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unless of course your phone does not have the magic antenna because it's an unbranded tp2 and you're in the usa and your carrier is at&t. then even if you're in middle of manhattan, surrounded by 3g, you don't get it. right?
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Yeap, strange lock... It's magic antenna issue, for sure... Did it came with a witch hat also? And a magic wand???
Hi
I bought this phone on a plan with Optus in Australia and now I'm in Thailand. I put in a new sim but I cant get any signal. the phone is unlocked as it said when I check the IMEI code in the Optus website. I'm not sure if its correct.
Anyway I suspect the problem is due to different frequency band in thailand but I am not sure. Is there anyway to know it for sure? or to try to change the frequency of the phone to try if it will work?
cheers
tandeman said:
Hi
I bought this phone on a plan with Optus in Australia and now I'm in Thailand. I put in a new sim but I cant get any signal. the phone is unlocked as it said when I check the IMEI code in the Optus website. I'm not sure if its correct.
Anyway I suspect the problem is due to different frequency band in thailand but I am not sure. Is there anyway to know it for sure? or to try to change the frequency of the phone to try if it will work?
cheers
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Tried going Settings -> Mobile network -> Network Operators and checking the settings there?
I spoke to Optus and just got the phone unlocked over the internet but I was not using the Optus sim nor receiving signal from Optus at the time they did the unlocking. would it work?
the problem still exists.
Hi all,
While back in the USA, I was lucky enough to get a new Nexus 7 (2103) 32GB LTE model which shipped with a T-Mobile micro SIM card good for prepaid data access plans. However, I live in the Netherlands and when I tried to use my Nexus with a micro SIM from my provider Vodafone, it was not able to properly list the mobile network operators.
I opened a technical support incident with Google Play services who lead me through several diagnostic steps which included verifying that the tablet is not SIM or carrier locked, it properly recognizes the available networks with other carriers SIM cards (worked with T-Mobile USA, Telecom DE, MTN NG, Rogers CA) it also can list the mobile networks with no SIM in the device. But when a Vodafone SIM is added, it simply doesn't recognize any network operators. It's not a matter of APN settings, as we have verified these are correct, but the problem occurs at a very early level in preventing the mobile networks from being listed.
I believe this to be somehow related to the SIM card/middleware used to communicate with the SIM to the hardware. I see this behavior with the LTE Factory Image JLS36C as well as the Cyanogen Mod 10.2 unofficial deb builds.
Are there any other LTE users that are having a similar problem? Without mobile network access, my LTE model is effectively a WiFi only model and I'd really like to get this fixed.
buckofive said:
While back in the USA, I was lucky enough to get a new Nexus 7 (2103) 32GB LTE model which shipped with a T-Mobile micro SIM card good for prepaid data access plans. However, I live in the Netherlands and when I tried to use my Nexus with a micro SIM from my provider Vodafone, it was not able to properly list the mobile network operators.
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As has been posted quite a few times already, the US and Europe use different channels for LTE. So a US N7 will not work with all European providers and vice versa. Most probably Vodafone uses one of the LTE channels not supported on the US N7. So you have two choices:
1. Find a different provider that uses the channels supported by the US N7.
2. Replace your current US N7 with an European N7 model.
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As has been posted quite a few times already, the US and Europe use different channels for LTE. So a US N7 will not work with all European providers and vice versa. Most probably Vodafone uses one of the LTE channels not supported on the US N7. So you have two choices:
1. Find a different provider that uses the channels supported by the US N7.
2. Replace your current US N7 with an European N7 model.
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While the US and Europe do have some variance in LTE bands - we confirmed that the bands used by Vodafone NL are as listed below:
Nexus 7 (2013) Tech Specs (LTE)
Network
North America and Japan:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/2100/AWS (1700/2100) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 700/850/1700/1800/1900/2100 MHZ (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/13/17)
Rest of World:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/2100/AWS (1700/2100) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 800/850/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 MHz (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/20)
Wireless
Dual-band Wi-Fi (2.4G/5G) 802.11 a/b/g/n
We confirmed that Vodafone NL use 4G data enabled in a combination of the 800MHz and 1800MHz bands which are listed as supported.
The fact that my N7 can connect to other mobile networks in Europe with other carrier SIM cards also disproves the need to get a "European" model to connect to a network. There clearly is a problem with the Vodafone SIM and the NA Nexus, but simply blaming it on the channel or bands is not correct. Addittionally, even if the LTE connection is not possible 3G connection via HSPA+ or 2G GSM connection should be possible. The same Vodafone SIM worked with my N7 2013 3G model, which was also from NA, so it is clearly not an issue with the bands & channels.
Have you tried manually changing your prefered network type in testing menu *#*#4636#*#*
Since there is no dialler on N7 deb, I use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.freespirit.hms&hl=en
From tablet info submenu, u can also use settings button (3 dots) to manually select radio band
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Have you tried manually changing your prefered network type in testing menu *#*#4636#*#*
Since there is no dialler on N7 deb, I use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.freespirit.hms&hl=en
From tablet info submenu, u can also use settings button (3 dots) to manually select radio band
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Thanks for the tips regarding the Hidden Menus application. I've installed it and set the GSM/UMTS band to EURO Band (GSM-900/DCS-1800/WCDMA-IMT-2000) but still not had any luck detecting mobile networks with the Vodafone SIM inserted. After removing the SIM and restarting, performing the same operation to search for available networks shows the four network operators in this region. I'm currently in Germany and in this area it shows
E-Plus
o2- de
Telekom.de
Vodafone.de
If I replace the Vodafone NL sim and try the same operation again, Settings | Mobile Networks | Network Operators - it searches for only a second or two (compared to the 15 or so it takes with no SIM installed) then does not show any networks.
All signs point to the issue being with the SIM chip OS or incompatability of the SIM chip profiles with the Nexus 7 (2013) LTE model. I didn't have any issues with this and my Nexus 7 (2012) 3G version.
In another strange hardware related issue, I have noticed that the Nexus 7 (2013) uses a different NFC stack and does not recognize all of the NFC tags that the 2012 model recognizes. A co-worker with the 2013 Wifi only version ordered some NFC tiles but they don't work with either his or my 2013 model, but work with the 2012 model. Very curious if this is somehow related to the issue that I see with the SIM card problem I am having.
Any other ideas?
Did you find a solution?
buckofive said:
Thanks for the tips regarding the Hidden Menus application. I've installed it and set the GSM/UMTS band to EURO Band (GSM-900/DCS-1800/WCDMA-IMT-2000) but still not had any luck detecting mobile networks with the Vodafone SIM inserted. After removing the SIM and restarting, performing the same operation to search for available networks shows the four network operators in this region. I'm currently in Germany and in this area it shows
E-Plus
o2- de
Telekom.de
Vodafone.de
If I replace the Vodafone NL sim and try the same operation again, Settings | Mobile Networks | Network Operators - it searches for only a second or two (compared to the 15 or so it takes with no SIM installed) then does not show any networks.
All signs point to the issue being with the SIM chip OS or incompatability of the SIM chip profiles with the Nexus 7 (2013) LTE model. I didn't have any issues with this and my Nexus 7 (2012) 3G version.
In another strange hardware related issue, I have noticed that the Nexus 7 (2013) uses a different NFC stack and does not recognize all of the NFC tags that the 2012 model recognizes. A co-worker with the 2013 Wifi only version ordered some NFC tiles but they don't work with either his or my 2013 model, but work with the 2012 model. Very curious if this is somehow related to the issue that I see with the SIM card problem I am having.
Any other ideas?
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Hello All,
Apologies for the opportunistic first post but I only "discovered" this forum today.
I am facing the same issue as buckofive and was wondering whether anyone has ever found a solution?
Thank you.
ricmartins said:
Hello All,
Apologies for the opportunistic first post but I only "discovered" this forum today.
I am facing the same issue as buckofive and was wondering whether anyone has ever found a solution?
Thank you.
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Unfortunately, I have not been successful in getting this resolved. I've visited Vodafone several times, but none of their in store personnel have been able to give me any other answer than "it doesn't work" and we also see this with North American Nexus 5 handsets. I've done some addditional testing with other MNO SIM cards with American, Dutch, and German T-mobile SIMs and they work flawlessly and with 4G LTE speed, so it isn't a question of network or band.
The issue is definitely related to the SIM card OS and version. However, Vodafone have been unable to tell me what the SIM vendor is and what the chip operating system is.
Vodafone promised a solution
I have AGAIN asked Vodafone for help and they promised me a solution. I have my doubts ad will post an update next week once i hear back from them.
buckofive said:
Unfortunately, I have not been successful in getting this resolved. I've visited Vodafone several times, but none of their in store personnel have been able to give me any other answer than "it doesn't work" and we also see this with North American Nexus 5 handsets. I've done some addditional testing with other MNO SIM cards with American, Dutch, and German T-mobile SIMs and they work flawlessly and with 4G LTE speed, so it isn't a question of network or band.
The issue is definitely related to the SIM card OS and version. However, Vodafone have been unable to tell me what the SIM vendor is and what the chip operating system is.
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I have AGAIN asked Vodafone for help and they promised me a solution. I have my doubts ad will post an update next week once i hear back from them.
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Did you hear anything back from Vodafone? They have simply told me they don't support the device and explain that it is due to a North American device, which is simply not true. I've tested with T-Mobile data card from The Netherlands and also from Telekom in Germany and the Nexus 7 2013 gets 40+ Mbps download speeds on those networks. So the issue is clearly related to the Vodafone SIM cards, but no one has been able to give me any insight as to what card OS they are using, so it is very hard to troublehsoot the problem any further.
Two big thumbs down for Vodafone service & support!
Any news on this problem yet? I have exactly the same problem, I can use a KPN sim but my Vodafone sim simply won't work in my US Nexus 7. This sucks, I upgraded to a multisim Red Super subscription to be able to use my new tablet anywhere without having to tether.
I made sure to check which bands the US Nexus supports and figured in a worst case scenario I would simply use 3G instead of 4G. But it won't connect to 3G either
Sorontar said:
Any news on this problem yet? I have exactly the same problem, I can use a KPN sim but my Vodafone sim simply won't work in my US Nexus 7. This sucks, I upgraded to a multisim Red Super subscription to be able to use my new tablet anywhere without having to tether.
I made sure to check which bands the US Nexus supports and figured in a worst case scenario I would simply use 3G instead of 4G. But it won't connect to 3G either
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I have the issue as well. openend a ticket with Vodafone and directed them to this thread. unfortunately they were thus far also not able to solve it yet. hopefully something will happen, as otherwise I will need to drop Vodafone....
I also tested it with a KPN sim which worked perfectly. two Vodafone sims and a duo sim all had the same issue. Real strange thing is that with the KPN sim I was able to see the Vodafone network. But on the Vodafone sim I wasn't able to see any network. They assured my it was not a 4G only sim card, thus it was also strange the nexus did not pick a 2G or 3G network. In the settings though I could not change the 4G perferred setting to either 2G or 3G. it immediately reverted back to the 4G setting....
All in all, no realy help yet, only confirmation of what is being seen above.
pwvandeursen said:
I have the issue as well. openend a ticket with Vodafone and directed them to this thread. unfortunately they were thus far also not able to solve it yet. hopefully something will happen, as otherwise I will need to drop Vodafone....
I also tested it with a KPN sim which worked perfectly. two Vodafone sims and a duo sim all had the same issue. Real strange thing is that with the KPN sim I was able to see the Vodafone network. But on the Vodafone sim I wasn't able to see any network. They assured my it was not a 4G only sim card, thus it was also strange the nexus did not pick a 2G or 3G network. In the settings though I could not change the 4G perferred setting to either 2G or 3G. it immediately reverted back to the 4G setting....
All in all, no realy help yet, only confirmation of what is being seen above.
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I wouldn't hold your breath waiting on the response from Vodafone. I've had a ticket open for months with them, and it supposedly has been escalated. I've inquired in person with the so called "specialists" and they simply say it doesn't work with their SIMs. Yet nobody can tell me anything about the SIM, like manufacturer card OS, etc. It is really frustrating to hear this as I work with smart card and SIM middleware developers and if we had a bit to work with we might be able to fix the problem on our own.
I was at the end of my rope and extreme frustrated with them and wanted to cancel my contract, but they said that despite me paying for months of service that I haven't been able to use, that I would have to pay the remaining duration of my contract before I could switch to T-Mobile, which I think is total crap.
dual sim same problem with vodafone NL
I have the same issue. I use a dual sim from Vodafone in my Nexus 5 and Nexus 7. The Nexus 5 does not show these problems, but the 7 does. When I buy prepay mobile data abroad (Europe, Asia, US, Australia), the Nexus 7 2013 C works great with e.g. Orange, t-Mobile, Vodafone etc. But as my cellular subscription is a corporate one, at home I have to stick to wifi, for almost 2 years now! (I bought the 7 in Australia about 2 years ago). And yes exchanging sims between the devices does not make a difference. The combination vodafone NL sim + nexus 7 does not provide mobile data.
I ordered an unlocked brand new Nexus 5X through my uncle from US. I got it today when I put my SIM inside it, it reads it but says no service. I went to my local carrier office but they don't know what the problem is my sim works fine in another phone. please help.
P.S My friend ordered one too we both have the same problem and I live in Pakistan.
why are you ordering US versions instead of the international version?
Enter the APN settings in manually for the carrier you are using.
I am using US version in Bangladesh perfectly...
From Cellular Networks settings change 'Preferred network type' to 2G and see if it works.
Try any other operator's sim.