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[ROM] Official Gingerbread update available via OTA from Verizon!

Anyone in the US who woke up this morning and immediately tried Settings -> Software update -> Check new was greeted with a surprise from Verizon: Gingerbread available via OTA! It's a big update, so be sure you have a nice, strong, reliable 3G connection before attempting the upgrade.
My selfish question for the experts is: Now that I've performed the dance of joy at achieving S-OFF and root thanks to Alpharev, will I lose my happiness (S-OFF and/or root) if I allow Verizon to update my Android OS OTA? Are there any special precautions I should follow before, during or after the update? I already have a post-S-OFF Nandroid backup. Is that enough of a safety net?
Thanks all!
- Dave

ViperGeek said:
Anyone in the US who woke up this morning and immediately tried Settings -> Software update -> Check new was greeted with a surprise from Verizon: Gingerbread available via OTA! It's a big update, so be sure you have a nice, strong, reliable 3G connection before attempting the upgrade.
My selfish question for the experts is: Now that I've performed the dance of joy at achieving S-OFF and root thanks to Alpharev, will I lose my happiness (S-OFF and/or root) if I allow Verizon to update my Android OS OTA? Are there any special precautions I should follow before, during or after the update? I already have a post-S-OFF Nandroid backup. Is that enough of a safety net?
Thanks all!
- Dave
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There is a sticky thread in this forum about the GB RUU/OTA and also some threads in the General section (which is where this post should have been made). You may be putting your AlphaRevX S-OFF at risk by trying to install the OTA. In addition, before you can even attempt to install the OTA, you must remove ClockworkMod and install the original recovery.img from the Froyo ROM, so you would lose your 'safety net' backup, too.
There is already a fully rooted and de-bloated version of the ROM that you can safely flash using CWM and retain both root and S-OFF.

tpbklake said:
There is a sticky thread in this forum about the GB RUU/OTA and also some threads in the General section (which is where this post should have been made).
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Sorry for the misplaced thread. I attempted to place this announcement in the same place as the same announcement for China Telecom:
[ROM] Offical Gingerbread 2.3.4 ROM is out via OTA by ChinaTelcom
You may be putting your AlphaRevX S-OFF at risk by trying to install the OTA. In addition, before you can even attempt to install the OTA, you must remove ClockworkMod and install the original recovery.img from the Froyo ROM, so you would lose your 'safety net' backup, too.
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Thanks for the good advice and feedback.
There is already a fully rooted and de-bloated version of the ROM that you can safely flash using CWM and retain both root and S-OFF.
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FTW, the ROM/thread in question is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161411
- Dave

recovery from the froyo ROM. GB 2.18.605.3 RUU leak whatever. just get back to stock recovery any of those from HTC will work. but you MAY lose root. and you MAY not be able to get it back other than XTC clip. Cheers.

tpbklake said:
There is a sticky thread in this forum about the GB RUU/OTA and also some threads in the General section (which is where this post should have been made). You may be putting your AlphaRevX S-OFF at risk by trying to install the OTA. In addition, before you can even attempt to install the OTA, you must remove ClockworkMod and install the original recovery.img from the Froyo ROM, so you would lose your 'safety net' backup, too.
There is already a fully rooted and de-bloated version of the ROM that you can safely flash using CWM and retain both root and S-OFF.
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Some of this is incorrect,
It is possible you may lose root but you will not lose your s-off. It's a higher version of the bootloader so it should not be overwritten. I just learned that the OTA won't even install without the stock recovery.
However I'm with tpbklake, I would personally just install a ROM that's based off of the new OTA update. No difference (minus the bloat of course) plus you'll still have root.

HELP
Where does the OTA update download to? I had it downloaded but flashed to the rmk ROm but now it keeps rebooting and I assume wanting to apply the official OTA as it is sitting on my phone - dumb move by me somehow but how can I kill this boot loop issue can I remove something from the sdcard?
Thanks in advance.

chrismoo said:
Where does the OTA update download to? I had it downloaded but flashed to the rmk ROm but now it keeps rebooting and I assume wanting to apply the official OTA as it is sitting on my phone - dumb move by me somehow but how can I kill this boot loop issue can I remove something from the sdcard?
Thanks in advance.
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all your base are belong to verizon!
well, you could try booting into recovery and starting all over again via clockwork.
if it's stuck in a loop, pull the battery, put it back in and hold down VOLUME DOWN + POWER to go into recovery

If you've rooted or plan to root, do not accept or bother with the OTA whatsoever.
The hard work has already been done, just install the ROM I put together.

I know I did something stupid at some point I have a backup so will restore that and try again - just thought there might have been a shortcut - like removing a file.
Live and learn!

chrismoo said:
Where does the OTA update download to? I had it downloaded but flashed to the rmk ROm but now it keeps rebooting and I assume wanting to apply the official OTA as it is sitting on my phone - dumb move by me somehow but how can I kill this boot loop issue can I remove something from the sdcard?
Thanks in advance.
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the OTA will not install without the stock recovery. Sounds like you have CWM recovery on your phone.
pull the battery out
pop everything back in, hold vol down and then power. It'll load to the bootloader, once there it'll check for a P32IMG file name after that you'll have the option to select recovery.
you might want to wipe data, cache, and dalvik cache within recovery before installing the new rmk rom again.
Which ROM did you come from?

I came from CM7 back to stock (where it downloaded the OTA) and then I tried to RMK. I have Nandroid backups so will just try a complete wipe and then try RMK again.

so lets say you crack you're screen or something and need to get a new phone via insurance. couldn't you download this ota and then lose s-off and root so they would have no idea you did it in the first place?

applejacks108 said:
so lets say you crack you're screen or something and need to get a new phone via insurance. couldn't you download this ota and then lose s-off and root so they would have no idea you did it in the first place?
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Replies earlier in this thread suggest that you'd first have to restore the original Recovery image, replacing, CWM, before you could load the updated OTA update. At that point, you'd be running GB, unrooted, but /may/ still have S-OFF.
- Dave
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That is correct. If anyone remembers the DInc1 we had to flash stock radio, s-on file, stock RUU. As of now we have NO s-on file to flash.
NoClue....

[Q] Help about rooting and other stuff

Sorry if this question has been asked before, but i could not find any.
So i got the Nexus beast yesterday, and it's already blazing me off with it's greatness. But i got a few problems though:
1. I got the jakjuxw, not the jakju, will i get the same updates as the jakju OTA, but only a week later or so?
2. I did not root the phone before starting using it, but i regret that now. Is there any way i can root it and NOT lose all of my apps and data? I have spent so many hours to customize this device and i dont want to start all over (yes i know about app backup's, but they are slow)
3. If i root but stay with the stock rom, will i still be getting the original OTA updates or does i have to flash the roms manually and wipe the phone every time?
I'd appreciate it if anyone could answer all the questions =)

Baguett said:
Sorry if this question has been asked before, but i could not find any.
So i got the Nexus beast yesterday, and it's already blazing me off with it's greatness. But i got a few problems though:
1. I got the jakjuxw, not the jakju, will i get the same updates as the jakju OTA, but only a week later or so?
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Not sure about this, it probably depends on what they want to release. I don't think there's any kind of guarantee they'll get the same updates, but there's also probably no reason why they wouldn't.
2. I did not root the phone before starting using it, but i regret that now. Is there any way i can root it and NOT lose all of my apps and data? I have spent so many hours to customize this device and i dont want to start all over (yes i know about app backup's, but they are slow)
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You need to unlock the bootloader to root, and unlocking the bootloader wipes the device. Sorry. Someday an exploit might be found for ICS that allows you to root without unlocking.
3. If i root but stay with the stock rom, will i still be getting the original OTA updates or does i have to flash the roms manually and wipe the phone every time?
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If you keep stock recovery, you'll still get OTA updates when rooted. If you use custom recovery like ClockworkMod, you'll have to do them manually (but you won't need to wipe). In both cases, applying the update will probably cause you to lose root and you'll have to re-root. This is easy if you've unlocked the bootloader.
If you root by using some future exploit, you might find that the update you just installed removed root and closed the hole that allowed you to gain it without unlocking the bootloader, and now you're left stuck without root. I'd say just unlock the bootloader now and be done with it. It'll be a pain, but then you don't need to worry about it again.

phazerorg said:
If you keep stock recovery, you'll still get OTA updates when rooted. If you use custom recovery like ClockworkMod, you'll have to do them manually (but you won't need to wipe). In both cases, applying the update will probably cause you to lose root and you'll have to re-root. This is easy if you've unlocked the bootloader.
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ok thanks
Just unlocked it and rooted it, but i think im gonna install the official google 4.0.2 rom, i wil get the OTA updates then too right?
edit: how am i able to flash a rom without CWM? Also do i really not need to wipe my phone if i use CWM? i had to do it on my Desire.

Baguett said:
ok thanks
Just unlocked it and rooted it, but i think im gonna install the official google 4.0.2 rom, i wil get the OTA updates then too right?
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Yes, but the updates will probably unroot you. You should be able to just re-root after. If using CWM you can probably flash superuser right after flashing the update and not lose root at all. This is what I always did with my Nexus One when I still had the rooted stock ROM.
edit: how am i able to flash a rom without CWM?
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If the ROM comes as images (like the Google factory images) you can flash with fastboot. The Google ones come with a script that uses fastboot to do it for you.
Also do i really not need to wipe my phone if i use CWM? i had to do it on my Desire.
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I meant installing updates here... you don't usually need to wipe if you are installing updates to your current ROM, such as OTA updates to the stock ROM. You need to wipe if you're changing ROMs. It's probably no different than your Desire.

[Q] OTA updates run automatically?

This is my first Nexus. If I unlock the bootloader and root, and stay with rooted stock, would a future OTA update relock the bootloader and undo root?
Also, are the OTA updates automatic, or can I choose not to install the update?

Ectoplasmic said:
This is my first Nexus. If I unlock the bootloader and root, and stay with rooted stock, would a future OTA update relock the bootloader and undo root?
Also, are the OTA updates automatic, or can I choose not to install the update?
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Once you are unlocked, you won't become locked unless you manually lock it. This is the case even if you accept an OTA or factory restore.
Some OTAs are mandatory like the one most people got when they turned on the unit, however most are optional and won't install unless you choose to, either on purpose or by accident.

sfhub said:
Once you are unlocked, you won't become locked unless you manually lock it. This is the case even if you accept an OTA or factory restore.
Some OTAs are mandatory like the one most people got when they turned on the unit, however most are optional and won't install unless you choose to, either on purpose or by accident.
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However, to be fair, the DEB JLS36I update out there right now will cause you to lose root. It does not lock the bootloader, but it does whack root and custom recoveries. Unless you choose the option in TWRP to recover root after the install, in which case it rolls back the update and keeps both TWRP and root, meaning you are as you were as before. A few days later, you get the prompt to install the update again, and the circle of life continues.

Does that mean rooted and unlocked on JSS15R I can get the next OTA update but I loose root? I dont have any custom stuff like recovery or rom, just unlocked and rooted for a few apps like titanium backup, cpu Z and gemeni app manager

AndroidGreg said:
Does that mean rooted and unlocked on JSS15R I can get the next OTA update but I loose root? I dont have any custom stuff like recovery or rom, just unlocked and rooted for a few apps like titanium backup, cpu Z and gemeni app manager
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You can get the update and just re-root.
However if you have modified or removed any files, ota will very likely fail. Removing stock app would be an example of removing a file. On the other hand disabling stock app would be fine.

What if I just bought a nexus 7 LTE and already updated to to JLS36I? How would I get root then? Hypothetically of course...
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

lastdeadmouse said:
What if I just bought a nexus 7 LTE and already updated to to JLS36I? How would I get root then? Hypothetically of course...
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk
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Same way you would if you hadn't installed JLS36I
Unlock bootloader
Boot into custom recovery
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HTC M8 sdcard issues

Hi guys, i bought an m8. But have some problems. As 4.4 kitkat removes a lot of sdcard functionality, i want to root the device and get it back.
1.will i get ota updates while on stock rom, rooted, unlocked bootloader and s-off?
2. What is the best way to preserve stock recovery, specific to my device?
3.if i do get ota updates, will the update break my root? Or will the update and root clash?
4. My main goal is to get that sd card funtionality back, so if i get ota updates do i have to revert the changes?
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tahsin511 said:
Hi guys, i bought an m8. But have some problems. As 4.4 kitkat removes a lot of sdcard functionality, i want to root the device and get it back.
1.will i get ota updates while on stock rom, rooted, unlocked bootloader and s-off?
2. What is the best way to preserve stock recovery, specific to my device?
3.if i do get ota updates, will the update break my root? Or will the update and root clash?
4. My main goal is to get that sd card funtionality back, so if i get ota updates do i have to revert the changes?
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1. As long as you have stock recovery, you should be able to get OTA updates. I'm not sure you'll be able to keep your root though.
2. There are plenty of stock recovery dumps around these threads. Look around and you'll find them. Either that or dump it yourself.
3. That is hard to say. I've seen it happen both ways across different devices. You can try to preserve root via SuperSU, but there's no guarantee this will work. The worst that could happen is the OTA getting rid of root, in which case you could always root again.
4. The next OTA you'll get will most likely be Lollipop. From what I've heard, it actually brings back a lot of SD card write functionality that KitKat killed. So it will most likely overwrite your changes.

Right, thanks. Also is there some way i can copy my recovery for backup?
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Google gives me this. I've never done this myself so please proceed with caution. I highly recommend just grabbing an already dumped recovery if you haven't done this before. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2450045

Ok ill see to that, also one final question. If i install a stock rom from another region (which got the lollipop update), will i continue to receive ota updates on my phone using that rom?
Also what is a RUU?
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An RUU is a program which essentially wipes your phone and sets it to stock. As for flashing a Lollipop ROM from another region, you'd have to confirm that your phone would work fine with ROM. Worst thing that can happen is a soft brick I suppose. It's worth a try. Be warned you may run into issues.

tahsin511 said:
Ok ill see to that, also one final question. If i install a stock rom from another region (which got the lollipop update), will i continue to receive ota updates on my phone using that rom?
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No, you won't. The ROM has to be stock, and match the software for your CID & MID.
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Also what is a RUU?
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RUU = ROM update utility
Its a complete factory image. Usually comes as a Windows executable (so PC required). You relock your bootloader (if s-on, not needed for s-off), and just run the RUU with phone connected to PC, and the RUU will write the phone back to stock. Its a pretty easy way to return to stock, if RUU is available for your carrier/region version.
Also, RUU needs to be same or equal version hboot, etc. than what is on the phone (no "downgrading" allowed unless you are s-off).
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tahsin511 said:
Right, thanks. Also is there some way i can copy my recovery for backup?
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After you unlock the bootloader, but before you flash custom recovery, you can fastboot boot into TWRP (not flash it yet), then use TWRP to create a backup of your recovery partition.
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tahsin511 said:
1.will i get ota updates while on stock rom, rooted, unlocked bootloader and s-off?
2. What is the best way to preserve stock recovery, specific to my device?
3.if i do get ota updates, will the update break my root? Or will the update and root clash?
4. My main goal is to get that sd card funtionality back, so if i get ota updates do i have to revert the changes?
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1. You need stock ROM (nothing that you deleted or modified in the /system partition aside from just root) and stock recovery. Root is okay, unlocked bootloader is s-off is okay (to OTA). But you will likely lose root after you OTA (just install custom recovery again, and re-root).
2) Backup stock recovery as I indicated above, or find the right stock recovery here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
You may also be able to find the right stock ROM for your CID and software number, if you need it.
3) Already answered in Item #1 above.
4) I forget what the SD card fix entails. If it modifies anything in /system, you will need to make it stock again to OTA. Or if you flash a stock ROM, it will also probably revert the SD fix. After an OTA, yes I believe you would need to apply the fix again.

HTC 816G downgrade from lolipop to kitkat

hi
i had to root my htc 816g after the lollipop update cuz the small internal memory size and i couldn't even update the soft apps
i used TWRP
i just want to downgrade it to kitkat with the right steps and the right stock
i want to be able to apply the official updates too so can i or i will never be able to since i rooted it before ?!
i don't have enough info about rooting or backing up so pls try to explain

ShakeItBaby said:
hi
i had to root my htc 816g after the lollipop update cuz the small internal memory size and i couldn't even update the soft apps
i used TWRP
i just want to downgrade it to kitkat with the right steps and the right stock
i want to be able to apply the official updates too so can i or i will never be able to since i rooted it before ?!
i don't have enough info about rooting or backing up so pls try to explain
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I have the 816 a5_chl single SIM version but let me try to help you because I'd like to. First I believe the rooting methods for your device is a bit different then the one for mine so bear with me here. First I would advise against going backwards to kit Kat from lollipop. Lollipop returned the write permissions to the external SD card for apps that were taken away with kitkat and that's just for starters. Lollipop has battery and performance improvements as well. As for doing stock updates you would need to find and reflash your stock recovery back as well as remove any root exploits from your firmware before any signed stock updates could be performed. What was the root method you used on your model ? Mine was to unlock boatloader thru HTC, flash TWRP recovery and from that recovery flash SuperSU zip file from internal storage of phone.
As for backing up you would first run a backup from TWRP to your ext SD card called a full nandroid backup which is basically a snapshot of your whole phone as it is before you flash any other firmware. Enable compression and leave the MD5 check enabled then name your backup and select micro SD card as the location then swipe to run. Titanium Backup app is used to back up apps and data along with texts and call logs. Google's own backups can be setup from your phone settings and back up your contacts and phone numbers mainly. Super Backup app can also back up your calender as well as texts, call logs, etc.... I use all 3 myself plus the TWRP backup that you can restore if something gets messed up and it often can.

thoctor said:
I have the 816 a5_chl single SIM version but let me try to help you because I'd like to. First I believe the rooting methods for your device is a bit different then the one for mine so bear with me here. First I would advise against going backwards to kit Kat from lollipop. Lollipop returned the write permissions to the external SD card for apps that were taken away with kitkat and that's just for starters. Lollipop has battery and performance improvements as well. As for doing stock updates you would need to find and reflash your stock recovery back as well as remove any root exploits from your firmware before any signed stock updates could be performed. What was the root method you used on your model ? Mine was to unlock boatloader thru HTC, flash TWRP recovery and from that recovery flash SuperSU zip file from internal storage of phone.
As for backing up you would first run a backup from TWRP to your ext SD card called a full nandroid backup which is basically a snapshot of your whole phone as it is before you flash any other firmware. Enable compression and leave the MD5 check enabled then name your backup and select micro SD card as the location then swipe to run. Titanium Backup app is used to back up apps and data along with texts and call logs. Google's own backups can be setup from your phone settings and back up your contacts and phone numbers mainly. Super Backup app can also back up your calender as well as texts, call logs, etc.... I use all 3 myself plus the TWRP backup that you can restore if something gets messed up and it often can.
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first thx for reply
so if i just wanna stay with lolipop and just unroot it what should i do
i used TWRP and i backed up my rooted system days ago
i tried many times to unroot using the unroot option in supersu but nothing happened
so could u pls tell me the steps
like what stock i should download and how to install it ?!

ShakeItBaby said:
first thx for reply
so if i just wanna stay with lolipop and just unroot it what should i do
i used TWRP and i backed up my rooted system days ago
i tried many times to unroot using the unroot option in supersu but nothing happened
so could u pls tell me the steps
like what stock i should download and how to install it ?!
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Your welcome. Ok, you did good by doing a TWRP backup first. You'd be surprised how many people don't so kudos for that. Second you shouldn't need to find a stock zip firmware file to download as long as your system is pure stock and you've reflashed your stock recovery for your model phone. Those are usually found either here in XDA linked or you just have to try to enter your model found listed in your hboot or in settings under about phone. Once you've verified the correct stock recovery zip file you download it to your P.C.s ADB/fastboot folder and flash it over TWRP then relock your boatloader. Some say they can flash stock updates with it unlocked but most recommend you relock it for it to work. From there assuming the unroot method has worked you should be able to do stock updates from your phone or over a computer using HTCsync assuming nothing else was altered in your firmware system from stock.
You say that unrooting thru SuperSU hadn't worked. How do you know that? Have you used a root checker from the play store to verify? It should work because he wrote that into his app specifically to unroot for stock updates or to use someone else's superuser app.
Also what was your rooting method? I believe your phone is the Mediatek version and the Snapdragon processor in my version had a different root exploit or an extra step from my exploit to get a foothold in your system as the processor is different from mine. You would need too remove that exploit as well I believe as it probably altered some system files to allow SuperSU to use it's exploit to gain root permissions.
Found this link below on the web but can't vouch for whether it works or not.Also search here in XDA forums for unroot method as this link says it compiled the info from XDA. Remember you'll still need your stock recovery reflashed before your can do a stock update as this refers to just unrooting.
http://android-unroot-guide.xyz/htc-desire-816g-dual-sim/