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[Q] Impatient T-Mobile Desire User

I've never hacked my phone before but I really do want the Froyo update.
Looking at the guide in the other forum it looks pretty complex but I'm willing to put some time into getting it done.
couple of questions though.. Once i've done it if something goes wrong Can I roll it back to what it is right now? a 2.1 T-Mobile Branded Desire (Bravo)
And also does this affect my service with T-Mobile as the carrier and will they know i've hacked my phone etc?
Yes. Noobish dumb questions but sadly ones i need to get straight in my head first.

You can unroot and go back to stock whenever you like
and when you update to a cooked Froyo ROM make sure you update the radio first

Hi there i know this is my first post but i have been trawling these forums looking about rooting for quite a while now.
Anyway don't worry i used the unrevoked 1 click method and although it was sacry it was really simple and worked a treat. The ability to flash custom roms is really cool, im curretly running leedroids 1.6a rom.
All i can say is read lots of how to's and then when you fell comfortable go for it!!!
BTW im on t mobile also and the new radio has actually improved my signal, i can now get full bars on HSDPA at home whereas i used to get G or 1-2 bars of H!!

I'm on T-Mobile too, and have recently rooted and flashed my first custom ROMs. All I can say is just read up on the superb guides that cover pretty much all the bases. Use the Unr3voked tool for rooting, it really is very easy if you follow the instructions. Then when you want to flash custom ROMs, again just follow the instructions and it's very easy.

Ok great!
Thanks alot for your replies, they've been very useful.
I'm going to have a look at getting my Desire Rooted using Unrevoked atm.
Just a quick question.. what is a GoldCard and why do I need one (In reference to the rooting faq/walkthrough)

Can you follow the instructions detailed in this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743408

thanks for the alternative solution to getting Froyo on my phone.. One question to this, does getting the OTA Froyo actually work on T-Mobile considering they haven't released it yet?
I'm alittle bit unsure on how it all actually works.
I'm currently trying the unrevoked method atm but if that doesn't work i'll research and try your method in conjunction with creating a goldcard

Kunal23 said:
Hi there i know this is my first post but i have been trawling these forums looking about rooting for quite a while now.
Anyway don't worry i used the unrevoked 1 click method and although it was sacry it was really simple and worked a treat. The ability to flash custom roms is really cool, im curretly running leedroids 1.6a rom.
All i can say is read lots of how to's and then when you fell comfortable go for it!!!
BTW im on t mobile also and the new radio has actually improved my signal, i can now get full bars on HSDPA at home whereas i used to get G or 1-2 bars of H!!
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im on t-mobile too and although the test radio was crap the new official radio is gr8, get hsdpa all the time now

The OTA Froyo will arrive on Tmob when they release it,,, it would work but its going to be a wait
Cooked ROMs are the way to go IMO, and i hope you acheive root (then its flash happy time)

DanTehManUK said:
The OTA Froyo will arrive on Tmob when they release it,,, it would work but its going to be a wait
Cooked ROMs are the way to go IMO, and i hope you acheive root (then its flash happy time)
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Dan, ok. right.. I've installed the Hboot Drivers as instructed so now the phone shows up as bootloader when in the Hboot menu and usb connected. but when i connect my phone powered on normally in charge only and usb debugging mode i still can't get unrevoked to accept that i have a phone connected..
i've checked my device manager and i notice that i have something called ADB that isn't drivers properly? is that something to do with this all?

you need to get the drivers, there is a link somewhere on here from memory
ah ha
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
you should be ablet o read through that and find everything, failing that follow whats there for the goldcard method

This is getting out of control now..
I have to download the Android SDK and because i'm in Windows 7 I have to download HTC Sync and then boot to Vista to get the correct drivers?
ok.. so basically before i can use unrevoked i need ADB, USB Bootloader and HTC Sync working?

Im on Win 7 and it works fine, since im not branded i didnt have to make a goldcard, its alot easier then it looks and with a goldcard apparently its the same only you have a funky SD card, just follow and enjoy

Dan.. Are you using Unrevoked? or the method using a different bootloader or whatever?

As per post i didnt need a goldcard (or unREVoked etc) but a mate of mine has used a goldcard and described the method as 'simple as it gets'
so im just going with what he said

Eureka! Unrevoked works now.
Now i'm in the rebooted system where it has options like apply sdcard.update.zip lol.
I suppose i should download a 2.2 froyo rom now.. which would you suggest?

Personally im between LeeDroid 1.7b and SETrom 4.5 both work lovely for me,,, but i do want the bootscreen from LeeDroid (and the R2D2 Sounds) on the SETrom lol

Well, if it helps, I posted my steps on what i did with a stock T-Mobile (UK) device I bought off a friend. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7422943#post7422943
Was easy and worked perfectly. I'm now happily enjoying AdamG's OpenDesire 3.0.2 ROM and loving it.
EDIT: Oh yeh, used "Gparted" to partition my 16gb sd card for using ap2sd properly and that too was pretty easy and without issue.

DanTehManUK said:
Personally im between LeeDroid 1.7b and SETrom 4.5 both work lovely for me,,, but i do want the bootscreen from LeeDroid (and the R2D2 Sounds) on the SETrom lol
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you said i should upgrade my radio first?
is that another rom? so i have to flash the radio (i've found the link to it in leedroid's thread) and then flash the leedroid rom?
Also.. I guess this might be obvious but A2SD won't work unless I properly partition the SD card yes? after formatting it.. will that mean losing my bootloader?

isaw said:
Well, if it helps, I posted my steps on what i did with a stock T-Mobile (UK) device I bought off a friend. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7422943#post7422943
Was easy and worked perfectly. I'm now happily enjoying AdamG's OpenDesire 3.0.2 ROM and loving it.
EDIT: Oh yeh, used "Gparted" to partition my 16gb sd card for using ap2sd properly and that too was pretty easy and without issue.
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wow. you are psychic

[Q] Been reading for hours and have a question

Hi everyone
I've spent forever reading the forum and have a few questions and hopefully you'll have a quick answer for me.
Excuse my noobness (shouldn't be too bad, I've learned a lot in the last 5 hours!)
I've rooted my desire with unrevoked (it's worked fine)
This is a simlocked (soon to be unlocked first before flash?) handset from 3UK
Installed rom manager pro and backed up everything
All I want to do is install a stock/vanilla froyo 2.2 with sense etc. I don't care if it closes the root and I think I want it to automatically upgrade everything including the radio so I basically end up with a standard unbranded handset. No need for further rooting.
I'll be using rom manager to install the rom. I did notice in this thread:
(stock rom thread) Not allowed to post url's
The stock roms listed, although at the top there are two listed? 122704 & 126984 and they are exe files. Should they be zip files if installed via rom manager? A direct link to the correct rom would be excellent
Sorry for asking, I'm sure you lot get upset by stupid questions, but this is the furthest I can travel without asking.
Thank you
J

Exe files can be used to update the Rom from your pc with USB cable. Please make sure to use the gold card when doing any updates to make sure it works properly after the update.
As for unlocking, you can unlock before or after changing the Rom. Just remember to keep the unlock code just in case. You may need to enter the unlock code twice in a row, this is normal.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

Thanks. I didn't think I'd need a goldcard if I was already rooted and had rom manager? Install from SD?

Why would you want to install a RUU and lose root? There are plenty of good ROMs that are based on official HTC 2.2. Some are almost stock with very few modifications. Download, flash via recovery and you're done.

launton said:
Thanks. I didn't think I'd need a goldcard if I was already rooted and had rom manager? Install from SD?
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even if your rooted a branded device needs a goldcard to flash a generic ruu. just for your info, a vanilla rom dosent include sence, its called vanilla because its plain like the ice cream flavour, this means its a basic aosp rom with none of the htc apps

launton said:
Thanks. I didn't think I'd need a goldcard if I was already rooted and had rom manager? Install from SD?
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A gold card is a must if you had a branded phone (most likely if your phone was bought on a network and locked to a network too). Many users have had problems with WiFi if they update without a gold card
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

Ok thanks, so the best thing is to make a gold card and update to stock froyo by usb using exe file with gold card inserted?
I really don't need to keep the phone rooted for future use. All I want is the latest software really, that's all. Thanks for the quick replies by the way guys. Of course if there is a slightly modified rom that I can install without a gold card I'll go for that, as long as it has sense (I like it)

launton said:
Ok thanks, so the best thing is to make a gold card and update to stock froyo by usb using exe file with gold card inserted?
I really don't need to keep the phone rooted for future use. All I want is the latest software really, that's all. Thanks for the quick replies by the way guys. Of course if there is a slightly modified rom that I can install without a gold card I'll go for that, as long as it has sense (I like it)
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you can install any custom rom without needing a goldcard! rather than using rom manager though, i suggest you use the unrevoked recovery flasher to flash the clockworkmod recovery, then its as simple as copying the rom.zip to your sd card and holding vol down and power

I just use the standard ROM on my Desire, never thought about routing as I am happy with the standard ROM with HTC Sense.
Here's a very basic run down of how I unbranded my desire. Please please please read through the guides on the developers forum and make sure you understand the process. It's simple but can damage your phone if you don't follow the instructions carefully.
1. Buy an unlock code (i use the phone on more than one network and it is a good idea to have an unlock code as some roms may lock your phone).
2. Create a gold card. There is a tool to do this which makes it easy to do, search the developers and q and a forums for this.
3. Download a RUU file to your pc. These are exe files that can run from your pc to update the phones ROM.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

Thanks once again.
I'll read some more and see how it goes. Thanks once again

Thanks lads all sorted now.

[Q] Root access to install apps to sd

Hi after spending about a week reading through forums I managed to change my friends HTC HD2 to android using the LEO "Stock" NAND Android ROM.
All went great thanks to the excellent instuctions on here.
I then put z4root on and app2sd and all worked great.
I then deceicded to buy an HTC desire for myself not the HD one.
However maybe I should have done some more reading first as I cant find a way to root device to install apps to sd card.
I dont really want to flash another rom as phone is new and under warrant.Can you root without flashing a new rom or somehow move them to sd
Have I just made a huge mistake buying this phone or is there a way.
All help appreciated thanks

How does rooting void the warranty less than flashing a custom rom? Don't answer cause it doesn't.
It is possible to root and keep the current rom, but if you want to enable A2SD then it's a lot of work (not talking about the froyo crap).
So if you want A2SD is suggest you root with Unrevoked and flash Leedroid. Don't forget to make a ext partition on the sd card before flashing.
Disclaimer: You are the only one responsible for you phone, no one else!

You can root the stock ROM as TheGhost 233 said. You can also use AlphaRev's S-Off as well on it if you wanted.
As for me, I couldn't be bothered with A2SD so I just S-Off'd and then used the n1table to increase my internal memory. The ROM I use uses bugger all in the system. Also, you can move apps to SD card anyway if you have 2.2+.

gaz1888 said:
Hi after spending about a week reading through forums I managed to change my friends HTC HD2 to android using the LEO "Stock" NAND Android ROM.
All went great thanks to the excellent instuctions on here.
I then put z4root on and app2sd and all worked great.
I then deceicded to buy an HTC desire for myself not the HD one.
However maybe I should have done some more reading first as I cant find a way to root device to install apps to sd card.
I dont really want to flash another rom as phone is new and under warrant.Can you root without flashing a new rom or somehow move them to sd
Have I just made a huge mistake buying this phone or is there a way.
All help appreciated thanks
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No, I don't think you've made a mistake buying this particular phone....seriously....
As for rooting, use the Unrevoked method which is the easiest....Alpharev S-OFF works too ( I think you can't flash custom HBOOT images if your phone has the latest PVT-4 NAND..better check on that..)
Here's the complete guide from the Desire Android Development section of the forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189

Thanks for the replies I am waiting on phone getting delivered today from virgin.
I will post back when I get a chance to have a look at it.

I got root using unrevoked3 but my phone is s-on
My phone is on virgin branded and I presume locked though not tried another sin in it yet.
If I wanted to flash leedroid Rom onto phone what steps would I have to do
I put on setcpu so that seems to have helped battery life but would like custom Rom on
Thanks
Sent from my HTC desire

Hold on wait a minute you don't have to flash a new ROM at all your v-mobile phone should be on froyo (android 2.2) current software version 2.22.351.3 which already lets you put some apps onto your sd card at the moment i only have 3 downloaded apps that are on phone only mode.
[edit] you can also add downloaded apps from computer to sd card and install with Astro - Every one that i have done this with enabled move to sd and i still have 98mb of space to store more apps (even with the ones that are installed by v-mobile)

Thanks for reply yes it is on new update but I thought some of the modded roms were using less battery power so I wanted to know how to install one.
I have rooted using unrevoked 3 but i notice my phone is s-on
Just wanted to know if someone could advise me on the steps to do this or point me to a guide.
Will look at that astro as well thanks.
I have modinstall also

The issue you have is should things go wrong you can't return to stock as the Virgin RUU hasn't been leaked, so make a gold card now before you continue. This way, should the worst happen, you can flash the generic HTC RUU to get back to stock
Then look at custom ROMs using A2SD+ - most do it these days but best to check the ROM thread in question to make sure. Then partition your SD card and flash the ROM and you're good to go.
S-OFF isn't something you NEED - just means you can make changes to the OS without having to go into recovery first. If you're not going to be making a lot of changes bar a new ROM then leave that for now

EddyOS said:
The issue you have is should things go wrong you can't return to stock as the Virgin RUU hasn't been leaked, so make a gold card now before you continue. This way, should the worst happen, you can flash the generic HTC RUU to get back to stock
Then look at custom ROMs using A2SD+ - most do it these days but best to check the ROM thread in question to make sure. Then partition your SD card and flash the ROM and you're good to go.
S-OFF isn't something you NEED - just means you can make changes to the OS without having to go into recovery first. If you're not going to be making a lot of changes bar a new ROM then leave that for now
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This is what i was thinking and knowing v-mobile if you can't find a stock ROM to flash back to may have no warranty. That's the only reason i havent messed with mine

Early version (2.1) are about so you could downgrade using the guide on here but I don't know if it'd work (depends on the HBOOT)
Either way, a gold card is needed

[SOLVED] New HTC Desire (Android) user, need help

Before all jump on me being noob, yes I watched video and read rules. I hope I post this thread in place where it belongs.
I am not native English speaker so please don't throw me in fire if you see some writing errors.
I have always been Nokia user, from 1995 to this day, and now I got HTC Desire, it is old but I got it for free, it was in the box almost 1-2 years (never used) and that person discovered it before a month and gave it to me because he don't need it.
This thing is along first editions by the look of it, Android 2.1 Eclair, Amoled
I have updated it to latest official update (as I can remember 2.2.2)
I got spare MicroSD card (8GB class 10) and it working good with it (looks better then 4GB one I got with phone)
I also added some aps etc..memory was soon filled..I saw on Google that its common problem.
Now after some intro..lets go to my questions..
1. My goal is to root device and put best/stable rom with HTC Sense thing, mostly for additional memory on SD and as I did understand better control and speed of my phone - is that correct?
2. Is it possible to back-up EVERYTHING on my phone, store it to PC, and return it if I am not happy with new ROM, so I can continue to use it exactly where I left it with all my apps and file there?
3. I really don't know anything about android (some things I have read about rooting on google..) so I would need help, someone to point me at correct tutorials and rom to download. Maybe I am Android noob but I am good with PC so dont worry I will make some noob mistakes while rooting and adding new rom.
All my phone info I could find:
So its 2.2.2.
Baseband: 32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27
Kernel: 2.6.32.15-gf5a401c [email protected] #1
Build no: 2.29.405.14 CL345208
Software: 2.29.405.14
Browser: Webkit 3.1
Hboot
Bravo PVT1 Ship S-ON
Hboot-0.93.0001
Microp-031d
Touchpanel-synw0101
Radio-5.11.05.27
Aug 10 2010
If someone have will to help I would be grateful.

try this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
pretty straight foward, next time please search before starting a new thread
and if that doesnt work, search how to root desire with revolutionary

i first started with this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
very helpful if you don't know anything about what you're doing (like you and me) ^^
the most difficult question would be, which ROM to use. you said you'd like to keep Sense.
well here is an overview of every ROM you can get for your desire:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
find out the differences between them, and then decide which one suits you best. but don't be afraid to try non-sense (haha, no pun intended ) ROMs.
now some explicit answers:
(1) yes, almost every ROM allows you to move internal storage to your SD and some even speed up your device. with some you could experience reboots now and then, but thats rather rare.
(2) yes, you can backup everything. there are two ways to do that:
a - NANDroid backup: it creates some kind of an image (like the .ISO is the image of a DVD), which can be restored, so that your phone looks the same as before.
i recommend it every time you change or update your ROM. NANDroid backups are available after you rooted and S-OFF'd your device.
b - there are many apps on the market to backup nearly every part of your user data. the most popular is Titanium Backup. it can make a copy highscores, user input like passwords, bookmarks of your browser, and so on.
contacts can usually be secured via your googlemail account.
all of those backups can and will be placed on you SD card, from where you can easily copy them to your desktop pc.
question 3 is already answered...keep an eye out for sticky threads (the ones pinned on top of every sub-forum) and you will find all the information needed.
good luck.

The easiest way to learn about android is to test it out..play with it as much as you want and about rooting use revolutionary, it's the fastest and easiest method.Also, about restoring your Rom, you can do that by backing it up in recovery, nandroid backup as they call it.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app

the two guides linked in the posts 2 and 3 are quite outdated. neither even mention revolutionary.
revolutionary does not give you root. it performs s-off. root comes after flashing the superuser.zip.
@OP, i always recommend this set of guides, which explain a bit more in detail about what everything is first, so you can get an understanding of what you're doing before you do it (just as important!). the video guide is also useful to take you through the actual process.
take your time, i'm sure you'll eventually find what you want :good:

Thanks to all, I will "study" all links before proceed, Like I said I was just looking for few answers with directions of correct tutorials.

hmm..after reading all that stuff I am just confused.
Can anyone point at step-by-step tutorial of how to just make my phone have additional memory on SD card, I want to keep my official 2.2.2. ROM with all apps installed.
As I understand I need to root phone and make some linux partition on SD.
Now, I don't know how to keep apps already installed etc so thats where you guys step in with tutorials for my problem.
Few things to keep in mind:
I dont want S-OFF if not needed
I dont want to change my RADIO, ROM or whatever.
Just additional memory on SD card.
Thanks advance.

in that case you should take a look at this:
Link2SD
it's an application that allows you to move apps to your 2nd SD partition. no need to flash ROMs or anything else.
the only premise is that you need root.
i don't know if this app has any disadvantages...
but i recommend you to take a closer look at flashing ROMs anyways, because most people (including me) claim that their phone was kinda revived with a new custom ROM.
it's really worth a try. sure, there's a huge amount of reading involved, but in the end it's simpler than you think.

NewAndroidNoob said:
hmm..after reading all that stuff I am just confused.
Can anyone point at step-by-step tutorial of how to just make my phone have additional memory on SD card, I want to keep my official 2.2.2. ROM with all apps installed.
As I understand I need to root phone and make some linux partition on SD.
Now, I don't know how to keep apps already installed etc so thats where you guys step in with tutorials for my problem.
Few things to keep in mind:
I dont want S-OFF if not needed
I dont want to change my RADIO, ROM or whatever.
Just additional memory on SD card.
Thanks advance.
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first you need root to install titanium backup then, you can take complete backups of your apps, cuz installing a custom ROM will surely destroy the apps.......just take your time, you'll get it........ I took 3 Weeks like you , reading, searching and reading some more..... Then i started doing, and all things fell in place., 1 year has passed and not looking back....
Regards
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app

NewAndroidNoob said:
hmm..after reading all that stuff I am just confused.
Can anyone point at step-by-step tutorial of how to just make my phone have additional memory on SD card, I want to keep my official 2.2.2. ROM with all apps installed.
As I understand I need to root phone and make some linux partition on SD.
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it does take a lot of time to understand it all, that's a good thing. many people with no experience with rooting have used the guides successfully
as above, links2sd should work. however, i was exactly the same, thinking i didn't want a custom rom, just thought i wanted more memory. but a custom rom is well worth the time when you find the right one for you. :good:
the guides will show you how to partition sd card properly (gparted or 4ext recovery)
Now, I don't know how to keep apps already installed etc so thats where you guys step in with tutorials for my problem.
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BU7CH4 said in 3rd post...use apps like titanium backup. please read what we tell you
Few things to keep in mind:
I dont want S-OFF if not needed
I dont want to change my RADIO, ROM or whatever.
Just additional memory on SD card.
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s-off is not absolutely necessary, but is much more versatile, and more useful if things go wrong in the future. revolutionary will perform s-off anyway, and is ideal for your hboot version. don't be scared of it.
upgrading radio is not absolutely necessary

So after all readings and courage building, today I have decided to run operation X (lol)
Here is what I have done for now:
1. Done many things with PC drivers and comms PC-Mobile
2. S-OFF via Revolutionary
3. Denied CUSTOM RECOVERY from Revolutionary, read somewhere that 4EXT Recovery Touch is better. (I hope I didn't do something wrong with this decision)
4. Installed 4EXT Recovery Touch - custom recovery
5. From Recovery installed Superuser-3.0.7-efgh-signed
Now, it looks like I have now HTC Desire with S-OFF and root.
If I understand correctly now I can install titanium backup and also do nandroid backups.
After all backups I do, then I can proceed to new custom roms, extend memory to SD etc..still I am not sure do I want do more then extend mem.. Well, with time I will probably explore new roms just for fun or whatever.
But for today I have done enough (too much stuff in short time for newbee ))
BTW for now all has gone without problem or errors.
Thank everyone on help.
This thread can now be closed.

thread wont be closed, just edit the title to [SOLVED] New HTC Desire etc
happy flashing
Sent from my HTC Desire

jmcclue said:
thread wont be closed, just edit the title to [SOLVED] New HTC Desire etc
happy flashing
Sent from my HTC Desire
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Oh, lol, habits from other forums..sorry, there, title changed :victory:

NewAndroidNoob said:
So after all readings and courage building, today I have decided to run operation X (lol)
Here is what I have done for now:
1. Done many things with PC drivers and comms PC-Mobile
2. S-OFF via Revolutionary
3. Denied CUSTOM RECOVERY from Revolutionary, read somewhere that 4EXT Recovery Touch is better. (I hope I didn't do something wrong with this decision)
4. Installed 4EXT Recovery Touch - custom recovery
5. From Recovery installed Superuser-3.0.7-efgh-signed
Now, it looks like I have now HTC Desire with S-OFF and root.
If I understand correctly now I can install titanium backup and also do nandroid backups.
After all backups I do, then I can proceed to new custom roms, extend memory to SD etc..still I am not sure do I want do more then extend mem.. Well, with time I will probably explore new roms just for fun or whatever.
But for today I have done enough (too much stuff in short time for newbee ))
BTW for now all has gone without problem or errors.
Thank everyone on help.
This thread can now be closed.
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Why too much? On my first day i corrupted my nand guess it couldnt hold out on so much flashing in one day.. ) anyway have fun with your new toy

[Q] Complete noob humbly asking for help

Hey guys,
I've been around the Defy forum for quite a while now; however, my Desire is back from the dead and now my beloved
Motorola Defy is retired, which means that I'll be getting to know this forum instead!
Right now I have absolutely nothing. Just a TELUS Desire GSM on 2.2 stock froyo. Can someone point me in the right
direction for rooting and S-OFF? Do I need to unlock my bootloader as well for most ROMs?
I have this ROM in mind:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980122
Everything is pretty straightforward except for a few things:
Someone PLEASE help me, but I'm not going to be demanding or anything. So help me if you can.
1. How the hell did you guys end up with, like, 10 different recoveries and HBOOTs? I've heard CM7R2, stock, Amon RA, among others.
Someone can clarify this?
2. I don't get the partition things at all. For the above ROM what do I need?
3. And just how to root and S-OFF and unlock BL if I need to...
4. A simple procedure for all this maybe?:silly:
5. A simple explanation on how HBOOT and recovery and custom recovery work? On the Defy, we had a 2nd-init and 2nd-boot that basically
launched a custom ROM and kernel on top of stock because the bootloader was locked down. The CWM recovery was accessible from the bootmenu, which was in turn launched by pressing volume-down at the blue LED halfway through boot.
6. Last and not most important does the ROM above (Cooldroid Revolution 9.0) have working Wifi? It says it's "fast, smooth and stable" but...
Thanks so much.

Soooo...
Welcome to the Desire forums.
You should start by ignoring anything that has to do with the Defy. You don't need to unlock the bootloader.
Now, let's start with s-off.
Follow this tutorial Long link, and ignore step 2.
After you're s-off, you should install 4ext recovery. It's the best recovery for the Desire.
In this guide, you will install 4ext, and create an ext partition on your sd-card. The partition is allocated for more internal memory (more apps).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2125513
Read every guide carefully. You will learn a lot.
After you did those things, you can install a custom ROM. I don't recommend you use the one you mentioned as a daily one. It's still a work in progress, and has a lot of bugs.
There are many hboots. When you change hboot, you change the way the internal memory is partitioned.
For example, the cm7r2 hboot has a smaller system allocated space than the stock hboot.
You usually change hboots to get more app space.

Thanks!
But what about root? What tool should I use?
Edit: never mind, I saw the guide link in your signature
I'll get back to you when I'm done rooting. Fingers crossed.

You will root it when you either install a custom rom, or install the supersu zip.

So I read up on some guides that told me to use unrevoked, so I have this reflash_package.exe ready to go. I've uninstalled HTC sync because unrevoked tells me to.
Just one question: I can only use CWM recovery if using unrevoked? That's the default, and only recovery available with it. Can I just download the 4EXTRecoveryUpdater.apk later and change it to 4ext recovery?
If I end up somehow with a ROM that does not boot, how do I fix it? Flash an original RUU?

Why didn't you just listen to me? You don't need unrevoked.
Did you backup before flashing a rom? If you did, then restore it..
Flash another rom, or flash the 2.3 ruu.

abaaaabbbb63 said:
Why didn't you just listen to me? You don't need unrevoked.
Did you backup before flashing a rom? If you did, then restore it..
Flash another rom, or flash the 2.3 ruu.
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I did it! Thank you so much for helping me, despite all my noobiness in this forum.
I'm running Cooldroid Revolution 9.0 now. Again, thanks so much. About 7 hours later after I started reading up
and working with my Desire, I've learned a lot of things about S-OFF and HBOOT and EXT4.
I did a nandroid backup of my original 2.2 ROM before I formatted my SD card and it's backed up on my new
fat32 and my desktop as well. I guess I'm safe for now.
Oh and one more thing, are RUUs like a last-ditch attempt to save your phone? I remember there was a 2.3 RUU upgrade
that came in the form of an .exe and you just needed to plug your phone in, the .exe would do all the upgrading stuff for you.

Yeah. Ruu's are usually the last things that can save your roms.

Even noobier
I am even more of a noob than anyone else I've seen on here.
I am a college student, and I'm considered the best programmer in my class, so I was hired by my school to develop a mobile app for the admissions department. One of my classmates already developed one for apple, but he graduated, so my job is to create one for Android. They are fully aware that mobile app development is not taught here, and none of the people I will be working with knows anything about it either, so it is going to be interesting, to say the least.
My best language is C#, so Java should be no problem, but I am completely at a loss as to where to start. All the app development information I've been able to find is geared toward Ice Cream Sandwich, but I want to make sure my app works on Gingerbread because of its huge market share, plus anything newer.
I've looked at the "beginners" threads on here but I don't understand even half of what people are saying (I speak geek but it's a completely different dialect lol). Is there a resource somewhere where a good C#, Visual Basic, and SQL programmer can teach herself something completely new, and do it right?

Try this guide:
http://developer.android.com/training/index.html

Thanks, I will look into that
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