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Hello.
So, I'm coming from a rooted HTC Hero on Sprint. I had Cyanogen's 2.2 running nicely, and was ready for an upgrade.
Sprint dinged me on the anniversary upgrade options, so I decided to jump to big red and go for the Dinc.
Very glad I did, and I rooted immediately, loading up Virtuous 2.7 and a new kernel (King's no.4)
Thing is, I'm really suffering.
My reception as home and all over my neighborhood is appalling. Dropped call after dropped call. 3G to 1X to 3G to 1X...etc.etc.
My battery life is really killing me. I've got SetCpu to 245Mhz screen off, syncing as little as I can throughout the day, but I'm still down 29% in 2 hours !!
It kills me to say, but as I'm still within my 30 days, I'm really having to ask myself is it worth it ?
I can't for the life of me think what I can do to make the battery life better, apart from buying one of thhose big ass batteries.
And as for the signal, Verizon recommend I change the phone. Could it really be something to do with the phone ? Surely it's software (radio) related, and as I'm on the official 2.15.00.07.28 would changing the phone even do anything ?
First sink try in set CPU pressing menu then select the second option, not device select. If that doesn't work try switching kernels. If that doesn't work do a double wipe,dalvic wipe, and battery stats wipe then reinstall the rom then the kernel.
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you also have to understand that the stock battery is only 1300 mah!
I bought the OEM 1500 mah (fits in original case!) and it's practically a normal phone now. also, try a different kernel if not the powersaving kernel that came with virtuous 2.7
i have had good results with hydras kernel as well.
keep your setcpu profiles to a minimum if not uninstall the app. i recommend trying out the kernels before using setcpu to see how it does first.
grifforama said:
Thing is, I'm really suffering.
My reception as home and all over my neighborhood is appalling. Dropped call after dropped call. 3G to 1X to 3G to 1X...etc.etc.
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That sucks, and will kill your battery in the way you describe.
I'm assuming that you've tried *228 Option 2 to update PRLs recently? You can also try the 2.15.00.09.01 Radio and see if it helps, but I don't expect that it will.
And as for the signal, Verizon recommend I change the phone. Could it really be something to do with the phone ? Surely it's software (radio) related, and as I'm on the official 2.15.00.07.28 would changing the phone even do anything ?
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It doesn't matter what you do in software if the hardware is bum. It's entirely possible that you have a bad phone, and I'd take up Verizon's offer to exchange it if they think you should be getting better signal than you are.
If you're really interested in any further tests with this phone, wipe and RUU back to stock, and don't install and 3rd party apps. See what your signal and battery life look like. If they're still terrible, either something's wrong with your phone or you live in a lead box or Faraday cage.
verizon
I love my incredible and verizon, but all that goes out the window when service is not there. I would try stock kernel for sure and if that doesn't work i would unroot and then call verizon and what they are willing to do. radios, kernels, roms make any difference if you are in a dead spot. I'm sure they want to keep you as a customer see what they say, and if you don't like the answer hello EVO!
dB readings?
Can you see what the dB readings are in the the settings menu? Mine sit around -105 at my house, which is borderline no signal but I still complete and maintain calls just fine. I'm wondering if yours is the radio, or if there is something software-related that's causing the crazy signal drops.
BTW, the Incredible, in my estimation, does have relatively weak signal compared to some other phones I've owned (Env3, Eris).
Epicardium said:
Can you see what the dB readings are in the the settings menu? Mine sit around -105 at my house, which is borderline no signal but I still complete and maintain calls just fine. I'm wondering if yours is the radio, or if there is something software-related that's causing the crazy signal drops.
BTW, the Incredible, in my estimation, does have relatively weak signal compared to some other phones I've owned (Env3, Eris).
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It's strange.
I've unrooted and gone back to stock.
I also made a trip out to Manhattan today, and my signal was strong pretty much everywhere.
However, walking my neighborhood, it fluctuates between -62 and -80 (where it is currently at my home)
Thing is, I get constant call drops, even at -73.
The other odd thing is that I've seen the bars go from 1 bar at -72 to 4 bars at -61 and then down to 1 bar at -78 to 2 bars at -78. There doesn't seem to be aby consistency at all. I'm wondering if they've got the same problem as Apple where there formula for displaying signal is just wrong.
My other issue is with the data signal going form 3G to 1X around my area. I spoke to Verizon who told me that (in their words) they "Own" my area, and signal should be strong. I disagree, and I regularly go down to 1X walking from my house to my coffee shop, all of 5 blocks away. If they "owned" my area, then surely I should be lit up all the way there....
I may just take up their offer of an exchange of phone, just to be sure, but now seeing my signal in Manhattan, I'm not so sure. I think they have a bad area where I live, and they need to address it.
I love this frickin' phone. It's amazing. I don't see the need for me to change this over the next couple of years, it's that good.
One last point. I have also noted that my GPS is, to put no finer point on it, ****ing dreadful.
Sitting where I am now, it's telling me I live in the middle of the East River.
I've noticed when I'm at work, where I get little to no service, when I pull up a web page, or anything else that pushes for data, I get a slight to moderate boost in signal while said tasks are being executed. My problem is that I also get very little service inside my house, but I always have it on the charger close to a window - which does help some. Now from what I've read and understand the battery can actually be pushed to increase signal up to a significant amount, as I've noticed at work, and even while using GPS in what are usually dead zones for me. Now I'm not too keen on how it all works, so I figured I would ask anyways... So finally here's my question - Since I always have my phone on the charger at home, I'm not worried about draining the battery. So shouldn't there be a way for an app to push the battery constantly to boost the signal while the phone is charging? Sorry if this is a clearly dumb idea, I'm sure there's a reason it won't work, but I thought I would throw it out there.
No idea what the duck u r thinking
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Just an idea based on observations I've made over the years. Figured I'd get a more elaborate response than that. Like I said, I don't know much about how the antenna works, but I was hoping to find a reason why this wouldn't work.
Technically it's not possible.
Let's keep in mind that FCC has regulations on the maximum output power for each class of devices such as a cellular phone.
Also sometimes a voice communication signal (1xRTT) is not always same level as data signal (EvDO) at the same physical location due to many factors. Also we are not sure when the signal indicator bars are displayed, which signal it's displaying at which moment. That could explain the boost you saw on your phone.
Just keep in mind, a software is not able to modify a phone's signal.
Much better, that makes sense. Thanks man!
Have you tried a signal booster antenna sticker?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elgx7lp7YMc
You can get them on ebay for about $3 for 6 pack. Many people have mixed feelings about these. As for me, I have one in my Evo. I just noticed a gain of one bar only. Still, one bar is better than none.
montecristo1 said:
Have you tried a signal booster antenna sticker?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elgx7lp7YMc
You can get them on ebay for about $3 for 6 pack. Many people have mixed feelings about these. As for me, I have one in my Evo. I just noticed a gain of one bar only. Still, one bar is better than none.
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http://www.andybrain.com/extras/cellphone-antenna-booster-sticker-review-and-test.htm#results
There is a reason people have mixed results. It's the placebo effect. There is no reason that covering your phone in metal would help.
Theres a thread on here somewhere about the air rave(sp?), I think it was in general. Guys with bad service at home were calling sprint, and getting one for free. It uses wifi to boost your cell signal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGvgkDqx0yA
Check out ^^^ That video and tell me if you know of a fix?
I cant hold my phone in my hand without losing signal completely. Ive flashed all kinds of kernels and radios but no luck.
Im runnng Virtuous Sense v1.02 on a TMobile G2!
Any help would be greatly apprecated!
Sanatize said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGvgkDqx0yA
Check out ^^^ That video and tell me if you know of a fix?
I cant hold my phone in my hand without losing signal completely. Ive flashed all kinds of kernels and radios but no luck.
Im runnng Virtuous Sense v1.02 on a TMobile G2!
Any help would be greatly apprecated!
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Flash a different radio.
Just letting you know if you hold your phones like that, most of the phones drop signal to like 1 bar.
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Ive flashed over 10 different radios and this still happens. I dont know where else to turn?
Sanatize said:
Ive flashed over 10 different radios and this still happens. I dont know where else to turn?
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I wonder if your phone is defective -- perhaps the antenna is not connected properly ?
Baseband Version
12.28h.60.140fU_26.06.02.27_M
Mod version
CyanogenMod-7.0.2-vision
Yes my phone does experience a drop in signal when I hold it at the bottom but the only way I can lose all the bars is if I hold the phone in the most awkward way possible, completely covering the bottom. 2 out of 4 bars realistically doesn't hurt me unless I happen to walk pass something with shielding, which might cause me to lose all my bars (For example: walking by the microwave in my kitchen while holding the bottom of the phone might cause a dropped call.) How often am I going to be walking by a microwave? lol
If it matters much, I'm in NYC so the only way I can not get service is if I go underground into the subway or something. If you're in a place with a weaker signal, it could be possible that covering the bottom of the phone puts you on the fence in terms of signal strength
As a side note though, when holding the phone in landscape without the keyboard open, my left hand completely knocks out the wifi signal since the wifi antenna is on the top of the phone. It makes me rage sometimes when trying to watch streaming video lol.
burtcom said:
I wonder if your phone is defective -- perhaps the antenna is not connected properly ?
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agreed.. i get the wifi issue but doesn't bother me.. my phone doesn't drop when i hold it.. anyways. i just tried.. but i am next to a window and have full bars.. regardless of how i hold it. its probably a defective phone honestly..
I cant understand why a 200 dollar phone has such horrible signal strength. I have stock rom gb ( i am rooted though) running on my incredible 2, and my db level is always between -90 to -102 showing 1 bar or none while my wifes droid x shows -72db to -70 at all times all over our house and everywhere we go. It gets even worse when I put a silicone case from verizon on it. Is there anything I can do"? I had a thunderbolt that had slightly better signal but this is ridiculous, anyone else experiencing this?
I think if this continues , I might not have a choice but to trade this phone for something else. I would really like to keep this though so any suggestions would really be appreciated thanks
Unless the devices were calibrated on the same equipment, you can't rely on the accuracy of their signal strength measurements.
Are you having any REAL problems or do you just not like what your phone displays and perceive a problem? Mine shows between -80 and -100 usually and I get great call and data performance out of it.
Try going into settings-calls-then network. I changed from global to cdma and it seemed to help. Ymmv
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Try a different back cover. The antenna is in that. May have a bad cover. Mine came with two and one of them gave me better signal than the other. Take it to verizon, they should switch it out for free. Mine gets awesome signal everywere.
Bob
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Bob-o said:
Try a different back cover. The antenna is in that. May have a bad cover. Mine came with two and one of them gave me better signal than the other. Take it to verizon, they should switch it out for free. Mine gets awesome signal everywere.
Bob
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that's really interestiing.
Can anyone confirm or have you tried factory reset after GB? On Froyo I had decent/good signal, but after GB it's been horrible. I am steady with 1-2 bars even in areas I used to get full bars and my dBm is around 90-102. My battery has seriously been crap since and I keep hearing and have been told by HTC/Verizon to do a factory reset to fix it but I don't know if I want to. Just curious if anyone has done it.
Bob-o said:
Try a different back cover. The antenna is in that. May have a bad cover. Mine came with two and one of them gave me better signal than the other. Take it to verizon, they should switch it out for free. Mine gets awesome signal everywere.
Bob
Sent from my Dinc2.
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that is correct. the antenna is in the back cover. try removing the back cover and watch as it loses signal completely. to make things worse though, it seems the antenna is focused at the bottom of the case.. so similiar issue to what the iphone 4 was having.
i wonder if there's small booster antennas you could stick on to the phone somewhere(sure sounds like nonsense but i'd give it a try).
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Can anyone confirm or have you tried factory reset after GB? On Froyo I had decent/good signal, but after GB it's been horrible. I am steady with 1-2 bars even in areas I used to get full bars and my dBm is around 90-102. My battery has seriously been crap since and I keep hearing and have been told by HTC/Verizon to do a factory reset to fix it but I don't know if I want to. Just curious if anyone has done it.
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yeah of course they are going to tell you that b.s. just like if you go to the geek squad with a pc problem and they'll say "oh you need to reinstall windows".
i just know if you did a reset it wouldn't fix anything.
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yeah of course they are going to tell you that b.s. just like if you go to the geek squad with a pc problem and they'll say "oh you need to reinstall windows".
i just know if you did a reset it wouldn't fix anything.
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Yea, it's the answer to solve anything just like Windows "Reboot the machine" fix.
I don't think I'll do a reset but it'd be nice to know if this will be addressed or if there's a manual fix we can do.
ok, for the hell of it i decided to buy this "cell phone signal booster"
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0004EGFAG
apparently it'll come in 3-5 days so once it arrives i'll try it out and let you guys know if it actually works or not.
voxigenboy said:
ok, for the hell of it i decided to buy this "cell phone signal booster"
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0004EGFAG
apparently it'll come in 3-5 days so once it arrives i'll try it out and let you guys know if it actually works or not.
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They still sell those? You know it's just a sticker with some ink, right? It's not going to do anything for you. They've been around for something like 20 years now and have been proven to be junk...
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They still sell those? You know it's just a sticker with some ink, right? It's not going to do anything for you. They've been around for something like 20 years now and have been proven to be junk...
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that's how desperate i am...
i used to have these 'radiation blocker' stickers i put on my old moto razr. doubt they did anything either but my old job was throwing them away so thought 'why not'.
Mine is horrible as well. Just got the phone 2 weeks ago b4 unl. data went bye bye. My old samsung rogue got amazing reception but this doesnt. I have not dropped a call yet though so maybe the reception bar is just a "dummy" graphic?
No difference from froyo to gb either
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This signal bar is definitely conservative. I've set the phone exactly next to my Galaxy Tab, both showing signal strength within 2 db of one another. The DInc2 showed 0 bars while the Galaxy Tab showed 2.
I know the extended battery with back cover gives me better reception then my standard cover. My phone loses signal, drops calls and isnt able to send texts or make calls sometimes while my wifes phone is able to and the wifi has been losing signal as well. On craigslist it goes
very interesting to know that the antenna is on the actual battery cover. i removed my cover and i wasnt able to see it (i assume it is built into the mold?)
eloyambres said:
Why do you think the cell phone signal booster is junk? Actually, I have got quite a good one which boost the signal at my apartment immensely. maybe you can go to their site and take a look. Their site is jammerall.com , hope I can be of help.
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What I called junk was not a signal booster. It was a sticker to be placed in the battery compartment purported to boost signal when it does nothing at all. They use to be very expensive ($20-$50) until it was proven they didn't work, then the price dropped ($1-free).
Real signal boosters (pieces of hardware which will actively boost/relay a signal) actually do something to boost signal, and they really work. They also tend to not be cheap.
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Different from other electronics, cell phones have become the necessity of every one's daily life. If someone still has no idea of mobile phones, you must say that "Out!" of course except the senior citizens. To be honest, cell phones really bring us lots of benefits. We use it for talking, sending and playing. With it, our life can be modern one, without it, we will be live in the Mars, you know, know nothing about each other. But do cell phones have no disadvantages? Of course not, more and more people are using cell phones at the cost of other interests. Noises are everywhere, especially the one of mobile phones. What should we do, throw them away? It is a stupid behavior. Have you ever heard cell phone signal booster? It is a new kind of device to solve this problem, effective in blocking the signals of your cell phone and its nearby base station. one side, the mobile phone really benefits us a lot, but another side we also benefit from its noises for a long time, so the fight between the cell phone and cell phone jammer has been a hot topic in society now. Which side you stand by, jamming or not, it depends on you.
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Have you read the dates on the previous posts? Last year, August.
Hi. Don't get me wrong, I love my phone, its excellent for internet and general usage BUT as a mobile phone its the worst I have ever had. I'm on 4.04 in the UK with o2. Been with o2 for over 15 years worked at the same place for over 15 years and lived at the same place for over 10years, in this time I have probably had over 12/14 mobile phones and never had the problems I have now. I know its got to be the phone as everything else has stayed the same! When at work I have to turn 3g off or don't have any signal all day, never had this with 2 iPhones and other Nokias. When at home I am always on wifi, but phone reception/quality is awful even though on previous 7 phones at this address I have never had any problems! I don't want to stray away from stock as its too complicated and I shouldn't have to to be honest! My only solution is sell the phone on eBay and go back to a previous phone which had better quality calls. Don't want to do this but cannot see any other solutions! If apple had made the iPhone 4 with a bigger screen I wouldn't have got this but I did and am generally happy with it but know as soon as I can, its going! Can't take the poor call quality anymore!
Rant over!
Get a new phone. That's your only option.
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I love my call quality.
Nothing wrong here, I get at least enough signal to make a call everywhere that I go, that's all I ask for in my phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25930237&postcount=71
Read my comments regarding signal strength.
El Daddy said:
Get a new phone. That's your only option.
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I agree. Is a hardware issue nothing new here. I switching to the GS3 when it drops here in the U.S.
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switched to one x
went from 20% no signal in house to 0%
much better
aimetti said:
switched to one x
went from 20% no signal in house to 0%
much better
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Not sure what you mean?
Matcarroll said:
Not sure what you mean?
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Signal Quality is perfect here... full bars, great call quality..
Not sure why you're experiencing the problem considering your environment has stayed the same...
1. You may want to pull out the SIM card and put it into your old phone to see if the signal is there... if you got a new SIM card with this phone, could be faulty? Maybe go into your provider and get a new one.
2. Have you tried factory resetting the phone? Maybe something you tried/downloaded then uninstalled caused havoc to your phone?
3. Is this bad quality consistant? Or over the past few days? Maybe your provider was tweaking their systems during certain times of the day?
4. Do you know anyone else with a GNEX that is on the same provider you are? Maybe try their phone in your environment and see if you have bad signal.
Not making excuses for the phone, but its hard to blame the product itself when the majority of others aren't having a problem... You may just have a defective unit that needs replacing. If you like the features of the phone compared to the other phones you've had, you may regret going back without at least trying a replacement unit
The only problem is the Wi-Fi is considerably inconsistent to let's say, a GS2. Otherwise, I haven't encountered any issues with call or connection.
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This is my second galaxy nexus phone and also second simcard and nothing different. I think it just has a awful radio! Had the same problem with old phone and returned it and now this one and likewise with different simcards. My reception/line quality is better when phone set to 2g only rather than 3g regardless as to whether I'm on wifi or not. I know loads of people are having similar problems, or certainly was before the new radio and 4.04 arrived. I only use phone for calls 10% of general use and as I said, it does everything else perfectly. Maybe I expect perfection!
I get one less bar than i had on my rezound. Never dropped a call though.
I got worse reception on the HTC myTouch 3G and 4G.
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I get one less bar than i had on my rezound. Never dropped a call though.
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hey, you look familiar lol
Have you tried flashing any other radios? The new radio that came with 4.0.4 did not work at all with my carrier here in Australia - ie I could not even get on the network. Flashed a different radio and now working fine...
What dBm do you get compared to other phones, not just looking at the bars.
Also don't cover the antenna with your hand in low signal areas, its very sensitive.
Matcarroll said:
This is my second galaxy nexus phone and also second simcard and nothing different. I think it just has a awful radio! Had the same problem with old phone and returned it and now this one and likewise with different simcards. My reception/line quality is better when phone set to 2g only rather than 3g regardless as to whether I'm on wifi or not. I know loads of people are having similar problems, or certainly was before the new radio and 4.04 arrived. I only use phone for calls 10% of general use and as I said, it does everything else perfectly. Maybe I expect perfection!
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Then get a different phone, enjoy it, and forget this sad moment in your life.
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johnwaynegacy said:
hey, you look familiar lol
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yeah i got a nexus from verizon when i traded in my rezound. couldn't stand sense and the horrid battery life.
if you guys want, try combining the 4.0.4 lte & 4.0.2 cdma radios in a hybrid type thing. i read this on rootzwiki and tried it tonight. so far it helped my reception.
Still got this problem. I am at the point where I am going to sell this phone and buy something else which I can use as a phone!
Matcarroll said:
Still got this problem. I am at the point where I am going to sell this phone and buy something else which I can use as a phone!
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It was bad a month ago...did you expect something magical to happen?