Hello.
So, I'm coming from a rooted HTC Hero on Sprint. I had Cyanogen's 2.2 running nicely, and was ready for an upgrade.
Sprint dinged me on the anniversary upgrade options, so I decided to jump to big red and go for the Dinc.
Very glad I did, and I rooted immediately, loading up Virtuous 2.7 and a new kernel (King's no.4)
Thing is, I'm really suffering.
My reception as home and all over my neighborhood is appalling. Dropped call after dropped call. 3G to 1X to 3G to 1X...etc.etc.
My battery life is really killing me. I've got SetCpu to 245Mhz screen off, syncing as little as I can throughout the day, but I'm still down 29% in 2 hours !!
It kills me to say, but as I'm still within my 30 days, I'm really having to ask myself is it worth it ?
I can't for the life of me think what I can do to make the battery life better, apart from buying one of thhose big ass batteries.
And as for the signal, Verizon recommend I change the phone. Could it really be something to do with the phone ? Surely it's software (radio) related, and as I'm on the official 2.15.00.07.28 would changing the phone even do anything ?
First sink try in set CPU pressing menu then select the second option, not device select. If that doesn't work try switching kernels. If that doesn't work do a double wipe,dalvic wipe, and battery stats wipe then reinstall the rom then the kernel.
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you also have to understand that the stock battery is only 1300 mah!
I bought the OEM 1500 mah (fits in original case!) and it's practically a normal phone now. also, try a different kernel if not the powersaving kernel that came with virtuous 2.7
i have had good results with hydras kernel as well.
keep your setcpu profiles to a minimum if not uninstall the app. i recommend trying out the kernels before using setcpu to see how it does first.
grifforama said:
Thing is, I'm really suffering.
My reception as home and all over my neighborhood is appalling. Dropped call after dropped call. 3G to 1X to 3G to 1X...etc.etc.
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That sucks, and will kill your battery in the way you describe.
I'm assuming that you've tried *228 Option 2 to update PRLs recently? You can also try the 2.15.00.09.01 Radio and see if it helps, but I don't expect that it will.
And as for the signal, Verizon recommend I change the phone. Could it really be something to do with the phone ? Surely it's software (radio) related, and as I'm on the official 2.15.00.07.28 would changing the phone even do anything ?
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It doesn't matter what you do in software if the hardware is bum. It's entirely possible that you have a bad phone, and I'd take up Verizon's offer to exchange it if they think you should be getting better signal than you are.
If you're really interested in any further tests with this phone, wipe and RUU back to stock, and don't install and 3rd party apps. See what your signal and battery life look like. If they're still terrible, either something's wrong with your phone or you live in a lead box or Faraday cage.
verizon
I love my incredible and verizon, but all that goes out the window when service is not there. I would try stock kernel for sure and if that doesn't work i would unroot and then call verizon and what they are willing to do. radios, kernels, roms make any difference if you are in a dead spot. I'm sure they want to keep you as a customer see what they say, and if you don't like the answer hello EVO!
dB readings?
Can you see what the dB readings are in the the settings menu? Mine sit around -105 at my house, which is borderline no signal but I still complete and maintain calls just fine. I'm wondering if yours is the radio, or if there is something software-related that's causing the crazy signal drops.
BTW, the Incredible, in my estimation, does have relatively weak signal compared to some other phones I've owned (Env3, Eris).
Epicardium said:
Can you see what the dB readings are in the the settings menu? Mine sit around -105 at my house, which is borderline no signal but I still complete and maintain calls just fine. I'm wondering if yours is the radio, or if there is something software-related that's causing the crazy signal drops.
BTW, the Incredible, in my estimation, does have relatively weak signal compared to some other phones I've owned (Env3, Eris).
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It's strange.
I've unrooted and gone back to stock.
I also made a trip out to Manhattan today, and my signal was strong pretty much everywhere.
However, walking my neighborhood, it fluctuates between -62 and -80 (where it is currently at my home)
Thing is, I get constant call drops, even at -73.
The other odd thing is that I've seen the bars go from 1 bar at -72 to 4 bars at -61 and then down to 1 bar at -78 to 2 bars at -78. There doesn't seem to be aby consistency at all. I'm wondering if they've got the same problem as Apple where there formula for displaying signal is just wrong.
My other issue is with the data signal going form 3G to 1X around my area. I spoke to Verizon who told me that (in their words) they "Own" my area, and signal should be strong. I disagree, and I regularly go down to 1X walking from my house to my coffee shop, all of 5 blocks away. If they "owned" my area, then surely I should be lit up all the way there....
I may just take up their offer of an exchange of phone, just to be sure, but now seeing my signal in Manhattan, I'm not so sure. I think they have a bad area where I live, and they need to address it.
I love this frickin' phone. It's amazing. I don't see the need for me to change this over the next couple of years, it's that good.
One last point. I have also noted that my GPS is, to put no finer point on it, ****ing dreadful.
Sitting where I am now, it's telling me I live in the middle of the East River.
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What radio is everyone using or would recommend for CM7?
I can't post in the development forums yet even though i've been here awhile just a lurker though.
2.15.00.07.28 There is a newer one I believe but I haven't tried it.
This question wouldn't belong in the development forum anyways. Here or Q & A. That is exactly why they make people wait to post in there =)
Noticed a bit of a stronger signal when I flashed the 11.19 radio (newest). As I understand it all phones are different though, I would test each one and see what works best for you.
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This question wouldn't belong in the development forum anyways. Here or Q & A. That is exactly why they make people wait to post in there =)
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Yeah but i would have just posted in the CM7 thread, but i understand.
I have the 11.19 radio right now (flashed it and hboot 92 while running SR 3.5 athena and it killed my wifi...) seems to be doing fine. Took about 3 tries to get CM7 working correctly for me though. Kept getting a boot loop forcing me to reflash.
Give each radio a test drive yourself for a few days. Asking what radio you should use is like asking someone to tell you what your favorite color should be.
Baseband performance is extremely subjective based upon your individual variables. As such, someone else's experience isn't necessarily a reliable indicator of what you can expect on your own phone in your location.
I'm running 11.19 now on rooted 2.2 and I seem to be getting better signal now than I did before. I was at Camp Old Indian over the weekend and was getting 2 bars consistently while everyone else got "no service". Anyone in Scouting that knows the upstate area of South Carolina knows exactly what I'm talking about.
I'm using 7.28. I was using 11.19 for a about a month before going back. Cell reception is the same but 3g is faster on 7.28. Atleast for me it is. I never use gps so cant speak for that.
I just flashed 11.19 and I'll be trying it out for a few days. My work has some sort of issue inside the building -- there are "dead" places all over the building and it tends to eat my battery when I spend time in those areas. It's very predictable (on the old radio) so I'll know pretty quick if any difference has been made.
There is a thread in the development forums that is a must-read if you are considering a radio flash so you A)know what to do and B)don't permanently brick your phone.
Read it...
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I just flashed 11.19 and I'll be trying it out for a few days. My work has some sort of issue inside the building -- there are "dead" places all over the building and it tends to eat my battery when I spend time in those areas. It's very predictable (on the old radio) so I'll know pretty quick if any difference has been made.
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The next time you have to reboot your phone, go ahead and pull the battery too. It might help to completely power down the device. It may not help, but it can't hurt.
i have been using the 11.19 radio for a couple of months and it works well for me.
Flashed 11.19 and things didn't seem any different in terms of call quality, battery life, or signal strength. I flashed the 9.xx version and it didn't seem any different, either. I'm going to put all three on the phone and record signal strength in the same place at the same time of the day and do various d/l speed tests and see if I can find a definitive radio that meets my needs. If anyone has any suggestions for a testing methodology, please let me know....
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kenneu said:
Flashed 11.19 and things didn't seem any different in terms of call quality, battery life, or signal strength. I flashed the 9.xx version and it didn't seem any different, either. I'm going to put all three on the phone and record signal strength in the same place at the same time of the day and do various d/l speed tests and see if I can find a definitive radio that meets my needs. If anyone has any suggestions for a testing methodology, please let me know....
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That sounds great actually. I am usin the new evo 4.08 radio n went from -85 on 11.10 to -78. All from my house, i tested right b4 i flashed new radio.
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Ok, so I ran 10 trials each for the three kernels about 1 minute apart and measured dBm and kbps UL and DL speeds using speedtest from the market....
Having testing it and reflecting on the data, it's impossible to test meaningfully with just one phone.
The upload and download speeds vary too much from moment to moment and within an hour apart, 11.19 went from an average DL speed of 480kbps to 1150kbps. This is clearly just a function of who is currently sucking up bandwidth and unless I have three phones with the three versions of the radio side by side running the tests, I don't know how I can make it meaningful.
I did compare the dBm on each kernel and they were within -1 dBm of each other consistently. The phone was placed in the exact same location and I watched for changes in the number until the screen blanked. I then opened it again and monitored it again until it timed out and so on... 10 times for each radio version. The difference was so small it would have to be considered insignificant.
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That sounds great actually. I am usin the new evo 4.08 radio n went from -85 on 11.10 to -78. All from my house, i tested right b4 i flashed new radio.
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Flashed 4.08 about an hour ago. *228 afterward even though it has never made a difference locally. No difference. I place my phone in the EXACT same spot facing the exact same direction and monitor the dBm level. The best I've seen from that spot is -93 dBM and worst is -99dBm. Each radio has displayed that range and pinned right at -94 to -95.
I'm beginning to believe that the radio itself has a "fixed" send/receive strength and that no amount of software can change a hardware limitation. Maybe it can change rules like how long a GPS waits to lock based on number of acceptable satellite grabs or something like that, but I'm not seeing one bit of difference in radios.
The new 4.08 radio is working good for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035955
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Flashed 4.08 about an hour ago. *228 afterward even though it has never made a difference locally. No difference. I place my phone in the EXACT same spot facing the exact same direction and monitor the dBm level. The best I've seen from that spot is -93 dBM and worst is -99dBm. Each radio has displayed that range and pinned right at -94 to -95.
I'm beginning to believe that the radio itself has a "fixed" send/receive strength and that no amount of software can change a hardware limitation. Maybe it can change rules like how long a GPS waits to lock based on number of acceptable satellite grabs or something like that, but I'm not seeing one bit of difference in radios.
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As far as receiver sensitivity goes...I was an electronics technician at one time in my life, and I too believe the hardware is the limiting factor. E.g: My phone is setting in the exact same spot, facing the same direction, and I updated from 11.19 to 04.08, and only noticed -1db difference. I am using the Real Signal app. And it shows the relative strength of both signals that our CDMA phones use.
I cant understand why a 200 dollar phone has such horrible signal strength. I have stock rom gb ( i am rooted though) running on my incredible 2, and my db level is always between -90 to -102 showing 1 bar or none while my wifes droid x shows -72db to -70 at all times all over our house and everywhere we go. It gets even worse when I put a silicone case from verizon on it. Is there anything I can do"? I had a thunderbolt that had slightly better signal but this is ridiculous, anyone else experiencing this?
I think if this continues , I might not have a choice but to trade this phone for something else. I would really like to keep this though so any suggestions would really be appreciated thanks
Unless the devices were calibrated on the same equipment, you can't rely on the accuracy of their signal strength measurements.
Are you having any REAL problems or do you just not like what your phone displays and perceive a problem? Mine shows between -80 and -100 usually and I get great call and data performance out of it.
Try going into settings-calls-then network. I changed from global to cdma and it seemed to help. Ymmv
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Try a different back cover. The antenna is in that. May have a bad cover. Mine came with two and one of them gave me better signal than the other. Take it to verizon, they should switch it out for free. Mine gets awesome signal everywere.
Bob
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Try a different back cover. The antenna is in that. May have a bad cover. Mine came with two and one of them gave me better signal than the other. Take it to verizon, they should switch it out for free. Mine gets awesome signal everywere.
Bob
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that's really interestiing.
Can anyone confirm or have you tried factory reset after GB? On Froyo I had decent/good signal, but after GB it's been horrible. I am steady with 1-2 bars even in areas I used to get full bars and my dBm is around 90-102. My battery has seriously been crap since and I keep hearing and have been told by HTC/Verizon to do a factory reset to fix it but I don't know if I want to. Just curious if anyone has done it.
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Try a different back cover. The antenna is in that. May have a bad cover. Mine came with two and one of them gave me better signal than the other. Take it to verizon, they should switch it out for free. Mine gets awesome signal everywere.
Bob
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that is correct. the antenna is in the back cover. try removing the back cover and watch as it loses signal completely. to make things worse though, it seems the antenna is focused at the bottom of the case.. so similiar issue to what the iphone 4 was having.
i wonder if there's small booster antennas you could stick on to the phone somewhere(sure sounds like nonsense but i'd give it a try).
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Can anyone confirm or have you tried factory reset after GB? On Froyo I had decent/good signal, but after GB it's been horrible. I am steady with 1-2 bars even in areas I used to get full bars and my dBm is around 90-102. My battery has seriously been crap since and I keep hearing and have been told by HTC/Verizon to do a factory reset to fix it but I don't know if I want to. Just curious if anyone has done it.
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yeah of course they are going to tell you that b.s. just like if you go to the geek squad with a pc problem and they'll say "oh you need to reinstall windows".
i just know if you did a reset it wouldn't fix anything.
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yeah of course they are going to tell you that b.s. just like if you go to the geek squad with a pc problem and they'll say "oh you need to reinstall windows".
i just know if you did a reset it wouldn't fix anything.
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Yea, it's the answer to solve anything just like Windows "Reboot the machine" fix.
I don't think I'll do a reset but it'd be nice to know if this will be addressed or if there's a manual fix we can do.
ok, for the hell of it i decided to buy this "cell phone signal booster"
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0004EGFAG
apparently it'll come in 3-5 days so once it arrives i'll try it out and let you guys know if it actually works or not.
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ok, for the hell of it i decided to buy this "cell phone signal booster"
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0004EGFAG
apparently it'll come in 3-5 days so once it arrives i'll try it out and let you guys know if it actually works or not.
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They still sell those? You know it's just a sticker with some ink, right? It's not going to do anything for you. They've been around for something like 20 years now and have been proven to be junk...
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They still sell those? You know it's just a sticker with some ink, right? It's not going to do anything for you. They've been around for something like 20 years now and have been proven to be junk...
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that's how desperate i am...
i used to have these 'radiation blocker' stickers i put on my old moto razr. doubt they did anything either but my old job was throwing them away so thought 'why not'.
Mine is horrible as well. Just got the phone 2 weeks ago b4 unl. data went bye bye. My old samsung rogue got amazing reception but this doesnt. I have not dropped a call yet though so maybe the reception bar is just a "dummy" graphic?
No difference from froyo to gb either
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This signal bar is definitely conservative. I've set the phone exactly next to my Galaxy Tab, both showing signal strength within 2 db of one another. The DInc2 showed 0 bars while the Galaxy Tab showed 2.
I know the extended battery with back cover gives me better reception then my standard cover. My phone loses signal, drops calls and isnt able to send texts or make calls sometimes while my wifes phone is able to and the wifi has been losing signal as well. On craigslist it goes
very interesting to know that the antenna is on the actual battery cover. i removed my cover and i wasnt able to see it (i assume it is built into the mold?)
eloyambres said:
Why do you think the cell phone signal booster is junk? Actually, I have got quite a good one which boost the signal at my apartment immensely. maybe you can go to their site and take a look. Their site is jammerall.com , hope I can be of help.
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What I called junk was not a signal booster. It was a sticker to be placed in the battery compartment purported to boost signal when it does nothing at all. They use to be very expensive ($20-$50) until it was proven they didn't work, then the price dropped ($1-free).
Real signal boosters (pieces of hardware which will actively boost/relay a signal) actually do something to boost signal, and they really work. They also tend to not be cheap.
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Different from other electronics, cell phones have become the necessity of every one's daily life. If someone still has no idea of mobile phones, you must say that "Out!" of course except the senior citizens. To be honest, cell phones really bring us lots of benefits. We use it for talking, sending and playing. With it, our life can be modern one, without it, we will be live in the Mars, you know, know nothing about each other. But do cell phones have no disadvantages? Of course not, more and more people are using cell phones at the cost of other interests. Noises are everywhere, especially the one of mobile phones. What should we do, throw them away? It is a stupid behavior. Have you ever heard cell phone signal booster? It is a new kind of device to solve this problem, effective in blocking the signals of your cell phone and its nearby base station. one side, the mobile phone really benefits us a lot, but another side we also benefit from its noises for a long time, so the fight between the cell phone and cell phone jammer has been a hot topic in society now. Which side you stand by, jamming or not, it depends on you.
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Have you read the dates on the previous posts? Last year, August.
I burned through my extended battery in 2 1/2 hours today, and 4g drops were ridiculous. I finally called tech support, and they told me to exchange for a new one. So, I got my second one, still getting 4g drops. My wifes Thunderbolt (my old phone) holds 4g full strenght in my house all day. I am highly disappointed in this phone. If Rezound gets s-off by January 15, I may be switching. It sucks, because I really like this phone other than the signal.
Also, when I talked to tech support, she said there is an update coming in March, which I also read elsewhere on these forums. Why would they wait until March, seems kind of wierd.
I always read about people complaining about this phone. I have this to say to you:
If you don't like it get another phone.
I'm sure there are plenty or Rezounds out there for you.
Haven't you guys read that the LTE network has been on the fritz?
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Cool story bro.
Sounds like an issue with the LTE tower near you. My reception has been great. I'm at 14 hours and I still have 19% left...barely had it 24 hours. If you have multiple phones wigging out, there are two possibilities:
1) The User
2) The Network
Let me guess, you restored all of your titanium backups and/or restored from Google Servers?
Here's another thought. Did you get a new 4G Sim card or did they just pop the old one into the new phone? Ta-Da.
Omg so many Verizon-noobs complaining, of course it has bad battery, it's LTE...
By the way i dont believe you in going from 100% to 0% in 2 and a half hours with two different batteries, unless you are dumb and has screen on 100% etc. If, however, you are serious, call Verizon or something.
Actually, half you guys are arrogant assholes. No, I installed everything fresh, my f*%$ing Titanium files wouldn't transfer from old Nexus back to my computer without hanging up. Yes, I have a high-end computer with no issues, yes the samsung drivers are installed, MTP sucks. Yes, I owned a TB since day one and never had 4g reception issues in my house. No, there are not tower issues, I know how to troubleshoot. I get 10mbs down on both this phone and the TB, except the TB doesn't lose its 4g signal. And yes, I got a new SIM card with my new Nexus.
Plus, I work downtown on the 33rd floor, and my TB held a 4g signal most anywhere in my office, even in the ****ter in the middle of the floor. My Nexus, burned through the battery twice in 8 hours and was in 3g half the day. But, I guess it's user error. It's clear as day there are issues with reception, it's just can you tolerate it.
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Omg so many Verizon-noobs complaining, of course it has bad battery, it's LTE...
By the way i dont believe you in going from 100% to 0% in 2 and a half hours with two different batteries, unless you are dumb and has screen on 100% etc. If, however, you are serious, call Verizon or something.
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No one said I burned through 2 batteries, I said I burned through an extended battery in 2 1/2 hours, screen is on auto, and you are an arrogant prick also. Do you assume everyone is dumb because they have issues with their phone? Also, I have been on 4g since day 1 with the Thunderbolt, I know where f##$ I get 4g and where I don't.
I had a little over 12hrs 36min with minimal usage in an area with known bad signal and had 21% left today, go figure i guess. Granted I only used my phone during my breaks and lunch. Still good for being connected to LTE all day imho. Im happy with the results I've had and I am totally realistic with battery life with an LTE phone, so much so i bought the extra battery+charger. If i happen to be in an area when I know I won't have the option to charge my phone, i swap the battery and have near full charge. It's awesome.
Software issue. Go cry to VZW please.
Yaaaaawn. User err... ogance.
Crazy world, ay?
You guys really are being dicks.
First off, it's clearly not the distance from the 4G tower because the thunderbolt is working just fine.
Second... the guy posts here saying he's had trouble with his second device. And being that an older device is working just fine he's looking for some answers. He's not trying to craptalk the device, but looking to see if anyone else has had the same trouble. That way in can gauge if he should attempt to get a third replacement, or swap out the phone for another device... or maybe someone figured out an issue with a specific ROM or discovered a radio that fixed his issue.
Instead he gets you Trollolols that are being complete dorks by telling him to switch to rezound or cry to VZW.
If you have nothing substantial or beneficial to say to his predicament, why is it so hard to just to stfu and move along?
Take that crap to androidforums.com where it belongs.
To the OP... have you attempted a different radio? Here's an article on it.
http://androidcommunity.com/leaked-...alaxy-nexus-improve-signal-slightly-20111221/
And you can try here to download some.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/12864-ra...ge__hl__+galaxy++nexus++radios__fromsearch__1
Gall0ws, thanks for the links, and support. I actually flashed the new radios on my last nexus, didn't get much of an improvement. The TB is between 75 - 85 dbm in my house, and the Nexus (including the new one), is typically between 95 - 115. I don't even care about the reading, because when I have 4g, it's fast. It's the drop outs to 3g that suck. Also, going to monitor this device for a few days before I flash the new radios, so I can really say if they made a difference. This just sucks, I was really hoping for an improvement over the Tbolt.
kwkslvr, I will take the screenshot, then punch it in your face. Do you think I am exaggerrating? Do you think I felt like taking all the **** off my phone, reflash everything back to stock and relock it, then waste an hour at Verizon, then reroot and put all my **** back on, I have no time for that. My thunderbolt is the original day one issue by the way, I don't exchange things for no reason. I don't use Titanium for anything other than restoring certain apps that I have that are no longer in market, no data.
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I burned through my extended battery in 2 1/2 hours today, and 4g drops were ridiculous. I finally called tech support, and they told me to exchange for a new one. So, I got my second one, still getting 4g drops. My wifes Thunderbolt (my old phone) holds 4g full strenght in my house all day. I am highly disappointed in this phone. If Rezound gets s-off by January 15, I may be switching. It sucks, because I really like this phone other than the signal.
Also, when I talked to tech support, she said there is an update coming in March, which I also read elsewhere on these forums. Why would they wait until March, seems kind of wierd.
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I haven't had problems with my GN, but I did find these two articles interesting regarding the whole 4G problems w/ some GN owners. I'm sure it isn't any condolence but...
1.http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/2...accurate-than-others-there-may-be-no-problem/
2.http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/2...gnal-indicator-to-better-match-other-devices/
What I find most disturbing is VZW "fix" for this is to just change/ fake what the signal actually is at and they aren't stating if the GN is correct or incorrect?!?! lol
By the way, when I got approval from Tech to exchange my device, she said there was an update coming in March in regards to the signal display issues, seems odd they would wait til March for an update. Just repeating what she said, nothing more.
Here is a speedtest with my signal strength, speeds are fine, and I am reading 101 dbm.
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I haven't had problems with my GN, but I did find these two articles interesting regarding the whole 4G problems w/ some GN owners. I'm sure it isn't any condolence but...
1.http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/2...accurate-than-others-there-may-be-no-problem/
2.http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/2...gnal-indicator-to-better-match-other-devices/
What I find most disturbing is VZW "fix" for this is to just change/ fake what the signal actually is at and they aren't stating if the GN is correct or incorrect?!?! lol
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The fix might not be simply falsifying any data but perhaps correcting an issue where the software is improperly calculating it. Which of course could lead to a lot of other issues such as excessive power drain because the phone thinks it needs to increase the power to the antenna instead of leaving it alone or reducing it.
For anyone having an issue with their signal, just keep a close eye on the radio threads. As soon as a new one gets leaked, they'll post it up and you can try it out.
And it can take a while, for example, my thunderbolt didn't have a good radio until on that was leaked Fall of this year. There is no rhyme or reason to it. some radios work better for some and not so good for others.
Obviously, if the phone isn't usable for his area, march is a long time to wait for an official update for verizon. But typically this stuff gets leaked out before an official push anyway.
Anywho, JC. Thanks for the links.
No major problems here
I've been running my phone for 2 days here without any significant battery issues; at least none more that I expected based on battery size and playing time. I've ordered the extended battery for insurance, but I fully expect that to do what I need. My only complaint at this point is signal strength vs. other VZ phones I've seen sitting right next to me. I have being disappointed here, am I alone?
Feel free to take a swing, but I don't think it'll fix your GN. I'll be awaiting the screen shot.
The AnandTech article is completely correct. I experienced a similar thing with my iPhone back in the day. This is a GOOGLE phone with as little Verizon interference as possible. Carriers want their users to think that they have GREAT reception everywhere they go. Those numbers are typically fudged, it's nothing new, I promise. As far as 4G drop off to 3G goes, most LTE phones suffer from this. Your T-Bolt is an older device. I'm sure you can't possibly have forgotten the number of LTE-related issues that device was plagued with early on. I remember a buddy of mine returning his because as cool as 4G was, 10% battery drain an hour on LTE while sleeping was just plain unacceptable. The Bionic has had issues. Most likely ALL VZW LTE phones are going to initially have issues the way that LTE and CDMA are basically taped together with very non-sticky painters tape.
I've seen connectivity issues with my MiFi related to specific locations that I'm in (I'm a heavy traveler with work). Any "fix" will be purely for display purposes. The day that release hits will be the day I'll be on XDA trying to research how block the update notification. The GN is currently displaying true and accurate reception strength and I'm sure it's driving Verizon up the friggin wall.
Ok, I'll stop giving everyone a hard time. But really, if the device sucks in your area, I'd return it and wait for a fix. In all seriousness, as you now confirmed from flashing modems, no modem is gonna make THAT big of a difference overall. Constructively, I'd wipe the device, log in with my Google Account, install zero apps, and see what it does. If my battery life sucked, I'd take it to the Verizon store and ask for a new battery. If that battery sucked (like draining dead 3 hours in sleep mode) I'd take the device back and exchange it.
It's not that I'm calling you a liar, it's that typically that kind of behavior is faulty hardware. Having it twice in a row is abnormal. In all fairness, my first iPhone had a bad battery and died in 2 hours (permanently). My second iPhone would overheat and lock up. My third iPhone was "fine" other than the fact that it was an iPhone.
Did it leave a bad taste in my mouth? Yeah, sure, but I still accept the fact that it was a weird chain of events and that the vast majority are perfectly fine. What I'm saying, nicely, is that both your first and your second device are not normal. It's not Google's, Verizon's or Samsung's fault...well, Samsung's for putting together a few bad units, but you know what I mean.
Haven't said 2nd device has bad battery life, just 4g drops. Hoping battery life will be better on this one.
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I definitely think something is wrong with battery life. I bought the extended battery and my phone is at 20% in 4 hours with screen brightness at zero and light texting and a lil fb. I feel like the regular battery lasted longer than the extended one I might test that next.
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So, I've had my phone for probably about a year or maybe longer, Rooted it when I first got it, came from an Eris...I flashed a few different ROMs then kinda settled and have been out of it for quite some time now...
But I'm back...and I've got a question, back when I was flashing ROMs often, I couldn't find one that wouldn't drop network connections while using wifi/wifi tether.
Has this issue been resolved? It didn't seem like it was ever a really big issue with most, before, so when I asked about it months ago, no one said much, but I'm hoping now, with newer releases of ROMs someone will have some more info on this issue?
Thanks in advance...
p.s.
currently I'm running TSM Bullet Vivow 1.4 and haven't flashed anything for a good 8 months and I'm gettin buggy and wanna upgrade to something fancy, fast and doesn't drop service...
You need to get a update of your firmware
I'm still a newb on a lot of stuff...how do I go about doing that?
Just google
Are you referring to a radio update? Last I checked, that wasn't the issue and I tried different radios with no results
Kamikaze - I experienced this as well on Bullet, is it while you are on the phone and the call drops out for a few seconds? I think it has to do with the modified boot.img that the port uses.
This is a list of what worked without connection issues for me.
- Unoffical CM9 by Aeroevan
- Nitsuj's stock port for our phone
- Mikrunny (I think but cant remember)
Yeah, it is a problem with ROMs that are ported. The only ROM this doesn't happen on for me is Justin's stock/stock-modified ROM.
I always found that all ported ROMs worked for me because I had the latest OEM radio. But, when I had the leaked ROM for the DINC2 it said to update a radio but I didn't and the WiFi and data signals kept over writing reach other.
So, its just a thing with the radio.
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My experience has been less than pleasant with my signal on my Inc2. I have been all over google trying to find a way to boost my signal for the Inc2. I have only had my Inc2 for a few months and just rooted a few weeks ago. Mine problem is not a result of having WiFi on/off, mine is just a week signal period (-95 dBm to -105 dBm). From what I found through my search is people modifying the back cover with foil/copper wire and tape, raising the cleaning the contacts for the antenna, which I have tried all of these as well. I am considering buying a new cover just to see if I can get a better signal as everything I have tried has failed to boost my signal. I have tried *22891 to update my PRL as well as toggling the settings from CDMA only PRL and CDMA/GSM PRL. If anyone finds the magic trick to boost signal strength I am open to other suggestions.
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My experience has been less than pleasant with my signal on my Inc2. I have been all over google trying to find a way to boost my signal for the Inc2. I have only had my Inc2 for a few months and just rooted a few weeks ago. Mine problem is not a result of having WiFi on/off, mine is just a week signal period (-95 dBm to -105 dBm). From what I found through my search is people modifying the back cover with foil/copper wire and tape, raising the cleaning the contacts for the antenna, which I have tried all of these as well. I am considering buying a new cover just to see if I can get a better signal as everything I have tried has failed to boost my signal. I have tried *22891 to update my PRL as well as toggling the settings from CDMA only PRL and CDMA/GSM PRL. If anyone finds the magic trick to boost signal strength I am open to other suggestions.
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Are you s-off, and if so are you on a more recent radio?
I am s-off and I am on the 1.09.01.0312 radio.
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I am s-off and I am on the 1.09.01.0312 radio.
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Then I don't have any advice for you. Do you get bad data speeds or drop calls, or is it just the numbers that bother you?
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Then I don't have any advice for you. Do you get bad data speeds or drop calls, or is it just the numbers that bother you?
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Data speeds are a bit slow but that is not really a problem as I connect to wifi most of the time. The major problem is I get grumbled voices a lot when the signal drops below -100 and I have to change rooms to continue the conversations, only a dropped call from time to time, but I get people telling me they tried to call me but my phone didn't ring and I think that is a result of the low signal strength. I think this is a hardware problem more so then a software/rom issue because a lot of people have an issue with low signal with the Inc2 I found searching on the Verizon forums. I do appreciate you taking time to inquire.
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My experience has been less than pleasant with my signal on my Inc2. I have been all over google trying to find a way to boost my signal for the Inc2. I have only had my Inc2 for a few months and just rooted a few weeks ago. Mine problem is not a result of having WiFi on/off, mine is just a week signal period (-95 dBm to -105 dBm). From what I found through my search is people modifying the back cover with foil/copper wire and tape, raising the cleaning the contacts for the antenna, which I have tried all of these as well. I am considering buying a new cover just to see if I can get a better signal as everything I have tried has failed to boost my signal. I have tried *22891 to update my PRL as well as toggling the settings from CDMA only PRL and CDMA/GSM PRL. If anyone finds the magic trick to boost signal strength I am open to other suggestions.
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Looking for a lower number would prove challenging unless you are right next to a Verizon tower. I know this because at work we have one on premises and my signal goes to 40 to 60 dbm.
Of course, at home, my signal ranges from 85 to 105 dbm but experience no dropped calls.
Ever since I got my first verizon phone in 2001 the signal quality has mostly measured (on every phone) at approx 85 to 105.
And this is living in two metropolitan cities. I wouldnt give it that much thought unless you are dropping calls. Upgrading the radio is a good idea though as well as PRL after upgrading radio.
Edit: Just realized your post was answered. I would call Verizon and inform them of the call drops and ask them to log them. Could be your unit.
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Kamikaze - I experienced this as well on Bullet, is it while you are on the phone and the call drops out for a few seconds? I think it has to do with the modified boot.img that the port uses.
This is a list of what worked without connection issues for me.
- Unoffical CM9 by Aeroevan
- Nitsuj's stock port for our phone
- Mikrunny (I think but cant remember)
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Which rom are you referring to exactly? Link to thread would be nice Thanks!
Yeah, just an update, nothing has cured the issue, updated both firmware and radio with the lastest leak ROM when it came out last month, then switched to different CM ROMs and those were horrible with the toggling of wifi hot spot signal and mobile network, so I went back to bullet and am just living with the random toggling off of wifi/network
I had been bouncing around on alot of the ICS rom's but couldn't seem to find one that this issue was gone. I think it is kernel related.
Since I want my phone to not have this issue I went back to GB for now which for me I didn't want to but this rom works just flawless for me.
GB Sense M 5.0.1 Ext4 Version w/ Drell's #21 Kernel w/ Sense 3 Patch v5.0
Was going to try cm7.2 next since I have always liked non-sense roms.
Hey folks,
Just a quick question I was hoping to get some clarification on:
Like many, I got the 4.2.2 OTA on Tuesday evening and everything went fine with the download and install. That being said, I'm having some signal issues that are a bit strange. For the most part the signal quality is fine. Not really having any connection issues, but I've noticed lower bars being shown overall. After doing some digging though I've determined that apparently 4.2.2 reports signal quality differently than 4.1.1 did... representing a much truer value based on dBm and not overly inflating things for constant 3-4 bars. Essentially it's like I remember way back with 4.0.2. I still find it a little odd that I can show -85dBm and only have 1 bar, but if that's how things are reported in 4.2.2 then so be it.
The thing that's bothering me though is this: at times my signal will read 0dBm 99asu. I'll have zero bars showing, but it will still show 4g in the notification bar and will say connected to the network in status. I can make calls, text, surf the web, download apps, even run speed tests without any problem (although not great numbers, they're not horrific either) Eventually bars and dBm "come back", but the amount of time for that to happen varies. Again, nothing seems to be affected by this, but it's just a little disconcerting to have happen.
So, has anyone else experienced this? Google searches show some talk of it but otherwise haven't turned up much. I've done a battery/SIM pull and that didn't change things. Is it possible something may have gone a bit sideways in the ota download? Was thinking a factory reset may help too but not looking forward to wiping my device only to find out this is pretty normal.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
It's possible that the OTA updated the baseband, please look into that as I'm not entirely sure. If that's the case, then it might just be that the new baseband is not suitable for your coverage area in which case I'd suggest you flash a previous release.
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It's possible that the OTA updated the baseband, please look into that as I'm not entirely sure. If that's the case, then it might just be that the new baseband is not suitable for your coverage area in which case I'd suggest you flash a previous release.
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Thanks for the reply. I'll fully admit I'm not as up to snuff on this as others, so please correct me if I'm wrong... but the 4.2.2 OTA did in fact contain new radios from VZW, so shouldn't the baseband have been updated for everyone who took it?
Mine is: I515.10 V.FK01/I515.FK02
As I understand it that breaks down to phone model (I515), HW rev 10, with the new radios being FK01/FK02
Wouldn't every VZW GNex that was on the 4.2.2 OTA have the same baseband; outside of having either HW rev 9 or 10?
Currently I'm locked, stock, not rooted... yeah, probably one of the last Thinking I may unlock and root and try the 4.1.1 radios again. Do I need TWRP or CWM to flash those or can that be done if I keep stock recovery?
As always thanks for all input, much appreciated.
My Gnexus is the same . but despite that it actually performs better oddly enough
Do/can you update roaming (*228) with the Verizon nexus? Or is that just something I could do with my old fascinate (yes, a fascinate and then nexus... I am a glutton for VZW punishment).
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Do/can you update roaming (*228) with the Verizon nexus? Or is that just something I could do with my old fascinate (yes, a fascinate and then nexus... I am a glutton for VZW punishment).
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You can, but as far as I know you'll then have what is considered a 3G PRL pushed to your phone, something beginning with "5"... if you just let the PRL update and push on it's own like it's supposed to you'll have a 4g PRL, and will begin with a "1" Both work the same and pick up both 3G/4G signals...not sure what the true difference is honestly. I've been on 15192 for ages now and it's been fine up to this point... Think I'd just as soon keep it. Thanks for the suggestion though.
I Read some where online. That if you take out the Sim card let it for like a minute or so. Slap it back in and there you go. It work for me
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I Read some where online. That if you take out the Sim card let it for like a minute or so. Slap it back in and there you go. It work for me
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Yeah, did that... battery pull and sim card pull... left it out for 30 min then back in... no difference. Like I said, it's not that I'm having a huge problem with my data connection, it's just acting... strange... kind of all over the place. Lots of fluxuation, odd readings/bar equivalents, and the whole 0dbm 99asu thing with still being connected. However I've also now started seeing higher than normal "time without signal" percentages... Just flakey. And frustrating... no issues at all until the 4.2.2 ota.
mine is not really a problem but I had way more bars of coverage in a multitude of places (work, home, gym, etc) on the old radios. I havent looked at the dbm's but visually it's different. might be something for someone interested to look into.
btw, im in fresno, ca.
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mine is not really a problem but I had way more bars of coverage in a multitude of places (work, home, gym, etc) on the old radios. I havent looked at the dbm's but visually it's different. might be something for someone interested to look into.
btw, im in fresno, ca.
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Well Google changed how the signal is read visually through the bars to provide a more accurate reading. You should look at dbm
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Having the same experience here (Whidbey Island, Washington) where the 4g signal clings on until it absolutely had to fall back to 3g. New radios may be contributing, but the change in coding to report lower signals may have improved the ability to hang on to a 4g signal. Hand off seems pretty slick too, but that's likely a function of the new radios that came in the OTA.
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