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Hello all!
I'm currently looking into buying the gsm galaxy nexus (S. Korea) and am torn between it and the Galaxy s3, which hasn't been released here yet. I was just hoping to hear from Nexus owners, is there any choppiness or lag to the Nexus (stock version) at all? (app drawers, moving in homescreens, transitions to menus, etc.)
I saw the video posted by xda demoing the S3 and was impressed by how smooth and seamless all the transitions were! Honestly, I love the Nexus design more than the S3 and don't really like the way touchwiz looks.
I don't mind that the Nexus falls behind in terms of specs, I'd just love to hear that day to day use of the phone is a smooth and frustration-free experience...
Thanks!
Not really, and if there is, you can root and fix it.
No.I take it for daily use（no game）and it just runs like flying.
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Hi,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494685&highlight=laggy
After about 6 months of having this phone I can tell you I've had no lag issues whatsoever with stock. I've used animated wallpapers, multiple browsers, graphic intensive games, hd movies and do not remember the phone staggering at all.
In contrast my transformer prime does lag all the time, which doesnt make sense, since the hardware specs are better. But thats not related to your question.
Anyway, if you have the chance to try it somewhere, do so. It's always better to see it for yourself.
Not if you know what you are doing, people who complain of lag do not.
Well said wiredpirate. I have no lag issues here.
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Not if you know what you are doing, people who complain of lag do not.
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Awesome! good to know, thanks guys.
Wiredpirate, do you think you can tell me what you mean by "knowing what I'm doing?" Does that mean using compatible roms/kernels combinations? Moderate widget use?
Do you have any recommendations on kernels? (I'd like to keep stock rom)
Factors that are important to me are:
-smooth, stutter-free performance
-good battery life
-good phone reception/ 3g signal (don't know if this can be influenced by the kernel)
I DON'T plan on doing any intensive (3D) gaming. Web browsing will be fairly important. Customization is not important whatsoever; I love the completely vanilla ICS. Any recommendations would be amazing...Thanks!
Sorry if I'm not supposed to ask another question mid-thread like this.
mataee said:
Awesome! good to know, thanks guys.
Wiredpirate, do you think you can tell me what you mean by "knowing what I'm doing?" Does that mean using compatible roms/kernels combinations? Moderate widget use?
Do you have any recommendations on kernels? (I'd like to keep stock rom)
Factors that are important to me are:
-smooth, stutter-free performance
-good battery life
-good phone reception/ 3g signal (don't know if this can be influenced by the kernel)
I DON'T plan on doing any intensive (3D) gaming. Web browsing will be fairly important. Customization is not important whatsoever; I love the completely vanilla ICS. Any recommendations would be amazing...Thanks!
Sorry if I'm not supposed to ask another question mid-thread like this.
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As far as a kernel I am happy with Franco. Definitely moderate widget use. Don't have to many apps that run in the background, or that stay awake with a background process. Use spare parts to set window animations and transitions to fast. Use a third party Launcher like Nova and set the speeds to fast, or in the case of Nova "faster than light". Don't have too many accounts syncing in accounts & sync. Set other apps not to sync or to rarely sync. Use "full power" setting in kernel. There has to be 10-20 other things I can't think of right now, when in doubt don't change the settings. Somebody else jump in with things you know helps. It's easy for me to change something and be able to tell if it slows down the phone, then I know not to use those settings.
WiredPirate said:
As far as a kernel I am happy with Franco. Definitely moderate widget use. Don't have to many apps that run in the background, or that stay awake with a background process. Use spare parts to set window animations and transitions to fast. Use a third party Launcher like Nova and set the speeds to fast, or in the case of Nova "faster than light". Don't have too many accounts syncing in accounts & sync. Set other apps not to sync or to rarely sync. Use "full power" setting in kernel. There has to be 10-20 other things I can't think of right now, when in doubt don't change the settings. Somebody else jump in with things you know helps. It's easy for me to change something and be able to tell if it slows down the phone, then I know not to use those settings.
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Im running an AOSP Rom and get easily a full days use with an on screen time of about 3.5 hours and 75% brightness. This phone kills my HTC Vivid on battery and performance. There is NO lag. I highly recommend it
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I never really got the point of rooting. I mean I have all that I need on jellybean anyways. I don't really need more customization.
Stock Jellybean and Project Butter VS. CNA 3.5.0 and Franco Kernel?
Does it actually make the phone faster? cuz I dont think my phone with stock jellybean has ever lagged
ChickenSwagger said:
I never really got the point of rooting. I mean I have all that I need on jellybean anyways. I don't really need more customization.
Stock Jellybean and Project Butter VS. CNA 3.5.0 and Franco Kernel?
Does it actually make the phone faster? cuz I dont think my phone with stock jellybean has ever lagged
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Then dont root lol I root because I use titanium backup, love flashing ROM's currently cm10 <3, custom kernels ftw (the options they offer are great! yes Franco im talking about you)
Plus with custom ROM's some allow theming so you can make your phone exacly how you want it to be. If stock is how you want it to be then stay on it and enjoy Android Jelly bean
Personally, its the little things that make it worthwhile. Things you never realize make a different until you have them such as:
Calender on lock screen
smaller Nav bar height
Custom app icons
Lock screen wallpaper
Skip music track with volume buttons
App/data backup and restore
Etc
Might not sound like much but you find them hard to live without after a while.
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A few good reasons on my own:
1) Titanium Backup
2) AdFree: no ads at all in my phone. EVER. Not only because it's annoying but also because it consumes more battery
3) Undervolt
It's a personal choice... rooting allows you access to the internal system to make mods and changes to system files... but it also means more chances of screwing things up if you do something wrong (you can always restore though)... so apps require root access to do things which aren't allowed by default in Android... like backup apps, change host files...
Unlike commonly noted, it has nothing to do with custom ROMs... that requires you to unlock your bootloader... yes, most custom ROMs come with root capabilities, but with ROMs like CM10, you have to option of enabling & disabling root whenever you want...
Rooting opens up other possibilities such as ad-blocking. That's my favorite benefit. There's also free wifi tethering and with most custom ROMs, users can apply themes.
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ChickenSwagger said:
I never really got the point of rooting. I mean I have all that I need on jellybean anyways. I don't really need more customization.
Stock Jellybean and Project Butter VS. CNA 3.5.0 and Franco Kernel?
Does it actually make the phone faster? cuz I dont think my phone with stock jellybean has ever lagged
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Rooting opens up many doors. Battery savings, faster phone, better quality photos/video, tweaks to the way everything looks etc basically you can modify every aspect of your phone to your liking
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rygran87 said:
Rooting opens up other possibilities such as ad-blocking. That's my favorite benefit. There's also free wifi tethering and with most custom ROMs, users can apply themes.
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What Ads? i never get any ads.
Secondly, backup is done by google sync as well.
Wifi tethering? you mean data hotspot? if so, jellybean already has that feature built in
Everyone has their reasons. I unlock and root because I can add little bits of functionality that help me in daily use. In order of personal priority:
1) I run stock JB because it's awesome but the kernel I run allows for a no compromise in speed yet better daily use battery life combo - 4.5 to 5 hrs screen on time, and lag free even when multi tasking a lot, can't get that with stock on a standard battery, I've tried
2) I like the stock experience but I like a couple of simple mods to increase functionality like a t9 dialer, battery percent and louder sound mod (because I use the speaker phone a lot in my work calls and stock is simply not loud enough)
3) Several apps have powerful functions that need root access - For e.g. I use Tasker because it makes my phone actually work like a smartphone and helps automate things so I don't have to think about them, like changing my phone profile to vibrate only when I walk into a movie theatre or turning off the slide/pin lock when I'm at home/work and turning it on again when I'm out, on its own.
4) I'm not big on customization like changing the navbar colours etc but if I was, a rooted phone let's you customize to your hearts content.
to be in complete control of my device. for that you need superuser privledges, same as administrative privledges on a windows machine.
Can't forget about improving battery life :good:
adfree. battery savings with custom kernels. root explorer = awesomeness. being able to carve unnecessary junk out of system folders. volume boosters.
there are many reasons. it's not for everybody, but it certainly is for me.
Well my phone is nothing more than a toy for me don't use it for work nor anything like that . Hell I hardly make calls . I root for the fact I can and I like to see what I can do to this thing .
Don't know what half this stuff means but if I don't like the effects I just change ROMs ex.
I really good at following directions and have yet to brick a phone .
Oooo and because I hate iPhone .
"JB:CM10:HYBRD"
"ParanoidAndroid. 2.14"
because stock colors look like crap. white looks yellowish
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I rooted to ad away and roam control
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It is easier to stay stock when you have a shiny new os installed. If you were stuck with a phone that was running 2.3 it suddenly becomes much more appealing.
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AdAway.
ChickenSwagger said:
I never really got the point of rooting. I mean I have all that I need on jellybean anyways. I don't really need more customization.
Stock Jellybean and Project Butter VS. CNA 3.5.0 and Franco Kernel?
Does it actually make the phone faster? cuz I dont think my phone with stock jellybean has ever lagged
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I haven't rooted my Galaxy Nexus either, even after rooting and ROMing my previous phones. No shame in that.
It is a Nexus. Its sole purpose of existence is to be rooted.
Amen.
My first device I rooted was a windows phone, don't recall the name now but then went onto the Eris and then the Nook. Had my Nexus for a half year before I felt the need to root it and mostly I root to have control over the look and feel. I enjoy the customizing as well as trying out the various different ROMs out there. It also makes for great dinner conversations with my boys (all in their mid-twentys') as we debated who has the best ROM and what developers are doing what. :silly:
I agree rooting isn't for everyone and no one should feel they have to...
I was hoping to get maybe a little longer out of my gnex, considering that IMO i dont do very taxing things, and when i bought it - those things seemed to work fine.
In the past few months, i started using google music - and the phone is simply too slow to keep up. Besides that, all i do is listen to a few podcasts, gmail, etc, but everything seems like its in slow motion. Chrome is unbearable - i just avoid using it anymore. The funny thing is that i dont remember this phone being THAT slow. I know overtime, my definition of slow will change as faster phones come out, but i have almost no experience with anything newer than my phone. Even my captivate seems about as fast as the nexus - which is a VERY old phone.
Right now im running slimbean from about a month ago.
Anyone else having these troubles? Anything i can do to speed it up a bit?
Im probably gonna pick up a gs4 nexus once i see it for a little less than its selling for now. Which model is the best to buy? Id be running AOSP software on whichever one i pick, so strictly hardware wise - which is the best? Do i want the one from korea with the octacore whatever - or should i go with ATT/tmobiles version? Which version does google play sell? What about the gs4 active? Ive heard the internals are a bit different, and its not AMOLED like the others.
Thanks for any advice!
I'm running PA 3.65 on lk 7. Oc'd to 1.3 ghz. Phone seems pretty fluid to me. Definitely there is a difference between my phone and say, a Galaxy s3, but it's not to where it makes me feel my phone is obsolete. Plus, the gnex has a great development base with not only Roms but kernels as well. This extends the lives of our devices greatly. I plan to stick and wait it out a while longer myself.
My advice, delve deeper into your gnex and try some more combinations and tweaks. See if there's something you could do. Currently I've been on a governor binge--trying all the various governors, looking for the best for me, battery-wise and performance. Overall I'm happy.
Hope this helps.
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lourivellini said:
I was hoping to get maybe a little longer out of my gnex, considering that IMO i dont do very taxing things, and when i bought it - those things seemed to work fine.
In the past few months, i started using google music - and the phone is simply too slow to keep up. Besides that, all i do is listen to a few podcasts, gmail, etc, but everything seems like its in slow motion. Chrome is unbearable - i just avoid using it anymore. The funny thing is that i dont remember this phone being THAT slow. I know overtime, my definition of slow will change as faster phones come out, but i have almost no experience with anything newer than my phone. Even my captivate seems about as fast as the nexus - which is a VERY old phone.
Right now im running slimbean from about a month ago.
Anyone else having these troubles? Anything i can do to speed it up a bit?
Im probably gonna pick up a gs4 nexus once i see it for a little less than its selling for now. Which model is the best to buy? Id be running AOSP software on whichever one i pick, so strictly hardware wise - which is the best? Do i want the one from korea with the octacore whatever - or should i go with ATT/tmobiles version? Which version does google play sell? What about the gs4 active? Ive heard the internals are a bit different, and its not AMOLED like the others.
Thanks for any advice!
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I'm on stock 4.2.2 which is rooted and I've modified certain elements using Paul O'Brien's MoDaCo Toolkit (which uses the Xposed Framework Mod). I think about upgrading from time to time but never because I feel I need to. I am more than happy with my Galaxy Nexus (bearing in mind I don't play intensive games).
I would wait a bit longer and see what the LG Optimus G2 is like and maybe upgrade early 2014. The next Nexus might be released in November anyway.
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if u want the S4, go for the Snapdragon version coz it has more development goin on
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My phone is amazingly fast. I dont zee any lag and I dare tot say it is faster then my friends sgs3. I am using XenonHD 11.1 and Aspk b11 kernel..
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mrgnex said:
My phone is amazingly fast. I dont zee any lag and I dare tot say it is faster then my friends sgs3. I am using XenonHD 11.1 and Aspk b11 kernel..
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+1 to that
maybe time slowed down for him xD
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"Upgrade" to android 4.1 and your phone will suddenly seem like less of a bag.
Seraz007 said:
+1 to that
maybe time slowed down for him xD
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At least he can try
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mrgnex said:
My phone is amazingly fast. I dont zee any lag and I dare tot say it is faster then my friends sgs3. I am using XenonHD 11.1 and Aspk b11 kernel..
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I don't think the phone is really slow, it's just that the amount of memory available is starting to be a problem. When you have plenty of memory the phone is fine, but between the OS, Chrome, the new Hangouts, the new Music player, and whatever else you have running you can quickly run out of memory and when all your background apps are restarting the phone is definitely not smooth.
Since 4.2.2 the Gnex started to be more laggy. If you use a custom rom and kernel (i.e. CM 10.1 based rom and fancy or franco or ak kernel) you can indeed tweak it up so it feels quite fast again, then again, the battery drains like crazy, a solution for this is buy an extended 3800mAh battery (I've one in my Nexus and it at least doubles the battery life, means you EASILY get through the day, even with overclocked settings and heavy use).
Imo it's still a very nice device.. But don't expect quad core performance from a 2011 dual core phone
My Note 2 with AOSP 4.2.2 rom absolutely is a beast and battery life is awesome (stock 3100mAh battery).
So long story short, if you overall still like your nexus: install CM 10.1 and i.e. fancy kernel, overclock it to about 1.4GHz, get the extended 3800mAh battery and it will make a big difference already to stock.
If you have enough money aside and feel like having something new, get a SGS4 or HTC One (awesome design), or if you like a big screen on top of that like me, I definitely recommend the Note 2 (it's considerably cheaper than the SGS4 and in terms of performance with irl use the difference is not really noticeable), or wait for the Note 3 .
When is a downgrade an upgrade?
lourivellini said:
I was hoping to get maybe a little longer out of my gnex, considering that IMO i dont do very taxing things, and when i bought it - those things seemed to work fine.
In the past few months, i started using google music - and the phone is simply too slow to keep up. Besides that, all i do is listen to a few podcasts, gmail, etc, but everything seems like its in slow motion. Chrome is unbearable - i just avoid using it anymore. The funny thing is that i dont remember this phone being THAT slow. I know overtime, my definition of slow will change as faster phones come out, but i have almost no experience with anything newer than my phone. Even my captivate seems about as fast as the nexus - which is a VERY old phone.
Right now im running slimbean from about a month ago.
Anyone else having these troubles? Anything i can do to speed it up a bit?
Im probably gonna pick up a gs4 nexus once i see it for a little less than its selling for now. Which model is the best to buy? Id be running AOSP software on whichever one i pick, so strictly hardware wise - which is the best? Do i want the one from korea with the octacore whatever - or should i go with ATT/tmobiles version? Which version does google play sell? What about the gs4 active? Ive heard the internals are a bit different, and its not AMOLED like the others.
Thanks for any advice!
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Before you write your phone off, try going back to 4.1.2. I've been using MiNCO v5 (which was my favourite 4.1.2 ROM, comes with franco's milestone 6 and is super stable and minimal.) Just flash v2.1 of this transformation pack as if it were a gapps package (actual gapps are already built into the ROM)
Your phone will have all the 4.2.2 goodies (except toggles and LS widgets, but there's an app for that) with none of the slow sluggish feel.
Try it. I promise you won't be disappointed.
P.S This mod and crossbreeder are the only 2 additions I'd STRONGLY reccomend. The first unifies the "holo" theme of stock JB (read the thread, it's awesome!) and the second does some amazing things which include system wide adblocking and smooth DNS caching just for starters.
P.P.S If you go back to 4.1.2 just make sure you have the latest radio for your region and DON'T RESTORE SYSTEM APPS FROM TITANIUM BACKUP.
thanks for all the responses. I think ill try the few roms and kernels you guys suggested before bailing on this phone. I personally like my rom to be as close to stock as possible, which is why ive been using slim bean for so long. I think ill try CM first before any other rom, or possibly going back to 4.1 like someone suggested.
Since available memory is probably the issue, is it worth using titanium backup to freeze apps that I never use? I dont use hangouts or anything like that.
Like i said i really dont ever play games or anything, these are the only apps I ever use:
Stock apps: phone, gmail, messaging, calendar, camera, gallery, calculator, clock, play store
aldiko
chrome
doggcatcher
drive
dropbox
fitbit (does not sync with tracker)
gmote
keep (installed but i never really use)
maps/nav/street view
NOVA launcher (forgot about this - could this be the source of my lag?)
play music (like i mentioned this destroys my phone)
reddit is fun
screen filter
seekdroid
smart voice recorder
swype (much better than stock gestures)
tapatalk
titanium backup
voice
youtube
Gonna go try some roms and report back.
@Seraz007 - which is the snapdragon version? The one google is selling directly?
@kaoskilo - how do i know which radio i should be using? I use AT&T and im located in CT, USA.
lourivellini said:
thanks for all the responses. I think ill try the few roms and kernels you guys suggested before bailing on this phone. I personally like my rom to be as close to stock as possible, which is why ive been using slim bean for so long. I think ill try CM first before any other rom, or possibly going back to 4.1 like someone suggested.
Since available memory is probably the issue, is it worth using titanium backup to freeze apps that I never use? I dont use hangouts or anything like that.
Like i said i really dont ever play games or anything, these are the only apps I ever use:
Stock apps: phone, gmail, messaging, calendar, camera, gallery, calculator, clock, play store
aldiko
chrome
doggcatcher
drive
dropbox
fitbit (does not sync with tracker)
gmote
keep (installed but i never really use)
maps/nav/street view
NOVA launcher (forgot about this - could this be the source of my lag?)
play music (like i mentioned this destroys my phone)
reddit is fun
screen filter
seekdroid
smart voice recorder
swype (much better than stock gestures)
tapatalk
titanium backup
voice
youtube
Gonna go try some roms and report back.
@Seraz007 - which is the snapdragon version? The one google is selling directly?
@kaoskilo - how do i know which radio i should be using? I use AT&T and im located in CT, USA.
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Try greenify instead of faffing about with freeze and unfreeze in TB. Also, this might be the radio you want, I'm not sure if you're gsm or cdma on AT&T (I'm from the UK) so the best way is to check in your settings on your current setup:
Settings>About phone>Baseband version
Though I'd highly recommend reading the thread just to check, it's amazing how big the change is when using an out of date radio.
pfmiller said:
I don't think the phone is really slow, it's just that the amount of memory available is starting to be a problem. When you have plenty of memory the phone is fine, but between the OS, Chrome, the new Hangouts, the new Music player, and whatever else you have running you can quickly run out of memory and when all your background apps are restarting the phone is definitely not smooth.
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I'm no expert but it seems to me that Android devices are similar to Windows in respect to slowing down over time. I think the complexity of today's apps contribute greatly to a phones alitity to keep up but not as much as you may think. I uses chache cleaner ng to get rid of a good portion of garbage on a regular basis and once in awile a fresh flash really speeds things up again. Don't forget about all those apps we think we need but never use. Get rid of them.
I ran errands today Streaming Slacker Radio, running navigation, and answering and making phone calls and my phone never game me a reason to think it was time to a new one.
Here is my solution - I suffered the same problem like you.
First, it has nothing to do with low memory. Android stops "old" apps, if it needs memory. There are about 1 million posts about that (wrong) story - but no one wants to listen to it
The problem is that the storage is not trimmed properly. You can use Lagfix to trim storage. Try it, it will work.
But the real solution is to factory reset your mobile (I mean wiping everything, restore the original system and root again). This way the storage will be trimmed too and it will be blazing fast again. If you leave at least 3GB free storage, the slowdown won't happen too soon again. Although a 4.2.2 ROM will then be fast too, the real speed you will only get with 4.1.2 (I'm using Liquidsmooth 2rc8 - fast, stable, feature rich).
That's my experience and I won't change my ROM until Android 5 is out... :fingers-crossed:
I get where you're coming from, but the GNex has a dual-core processer, with 1gb of RAM, if its feeling slow because you've been playing with you're friends quad-core phones with twice the RAM, then its definitely time to upgrade because no matter what ROM or Kernel you use, you're going to notice the difference. IMO I love my GNex, I'm running AOKP 4.2.2 and I couldn't be happier for the moment. However, when the Nexus 5 comes out I'll be the first in line.
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(I'm using Liquidsmooth 2rc8 - fast, stable, feature rich).
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Do you have a download link? I can only find that ROM for other devices than GNex.
I'm coming from Liquid Smooth 2.5 and running CM 10.0 since a few days. So far so good, but I'm missing a few features of Liquid Smooth and would love to give it a try again... Thanks!!
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First, it has nothing to do with low memory. Android stops "old" apps, if it needs memory. There are about 1 million posts about that (wrong) story - but no one wants to listen to it
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I know how Android memory management works, and that's exactly what I'm taking about. When apps get stopped it makes the phone slower because the apps need to be started again when you go back to them.
hudl said:
Here is my solution - I suffered the same problem like you.
First, it has nothing to do with low memory. Android stops "old" apps, if it needs memory. There are about 1 million posts about that (wrong) story - but no one wants to listen to it
The problem is that the storage is not trimmed properly. You can use Lagfix to trim storage. Try it, it will work.
But the real solution is to factory reset your mobile (I mean wiping everything, restore the original system and root again). This way the storage will be trimmed too and it will be blazing fast again. If you leave at least 3GB free storage, the slowdown won't happen too soon again. Although a 4.2.2 ROM will then be fast too, the real speed you will only get with 4.1.2 (I'm using Liquidsmooth 2rc8 - fast, stable, feature rich).
That's my experience and I won't change my ROM until Android 5 is out... :fingers-crossed:
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Trimming /data trims the storage as well as storage is /data/media. I don't think every phone is affected by this trim problem as they don't all use the same emmc (see the trim thread in this forum).
I also agree with you 100% that 4.1.2 performed a lot faster for me than 4.2.2 on my Galaxy Nexus. I don't think the hardware of the Galaxy Nexus or even the Nexus 7 fully handled Android 4.2 smoothly. Software optimizations could improve that. Actually on my HTC One on the GE (AOSP like) version of 4.2.2, the UI could get a little jittery.
While I agree with you that Android killing apps is normal when it runs low on memory, I can confirm CM10 killed apps a lot less often than CM10.1. Even with the memory leak patches implemented earlier this year into CM10.1, my RAM would get low enough that the lowmemorykiller would kick into gear a lot more often than CM10. I don't think this is the only cause of slowness in Android 4.2 but it can contribute. The most likely candidate is systemUI which Google changed how it works as in 4.2 it shows the background on the launcher in recents instead of overlaying recents on top of your current app. As that has to load the wallpaper from the launcher it may slow down if it has to pull it from memory.
PS. You say you won't change your ROM until Android 5 is out but 4.3 may fix a lot of the issues in 4.2 and the updated bluetooth support is a must have for users with Low Energy devices.
lourivellini said:
thanks for all the responses. I think ill try the few roms and kernels you guys suggested before bailing on this phone. I personally like my rom to be as close to stock as possible, which is why ive been using slim bean for so long. I think ill try CM first before any other rom, or possibly going back to 4.1 like someone suggested.
Since available memory is probably the issue, is it worth using titanium backup to freeze apps that I never use? I dont use hangouts or anything like that.
Like i said i really dont ever play games or anything, these are the only apps I ever use:
Stock apps: phone, gmail, messaging, calendar, camera, gallery, calculator, clock, play store
aldiko
chrome
doggcatcher
drive
dropbox
fitbit (does not sync with tracker)
gmote
keep (installed but i never really use)
maps/nav/street view
NOVA launcher (forgot about this - could this be the source of my lag?)
play music (like i mentioned this destroys my phone)
reddit is fun
screen filter
seekdroid
smart voice recorder
swype (much better than stock gestures)
tapatalk
titanium backup
voice
youtube
Gonna go try some roms and report back.
@Seraz007 - which is the snapdragon version? The one google is selling directly?
@kaoskilo - how do i know which radio i should be using? I use AT&T and im located in CT, USA.
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U live in the US? then u should've no problem gettin the snapdragon version
Snapdragon version is the quad core one not exynos( Octa core)
More devving for the Quad Core one since samsung didn't release exynos source code
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Greetings,
I've been around for some time, lurking mostly. And installing a ROM with ICS or JB on my Galaxy W was a wonderful way to innovate. It feels like I'm using a brand new phone, which is awesome.
I have tried Cyanogen mod and Paranoid Android and even the PAC roms. But the issue I run while using them is that my ram seems to be full most of the time, and it's filled with system apps more than my own apps. Which limits the phone seriously. I am almost unable to use Swiftkey for typing online or even messages, since it lags too much the phone.
I plan on keeping a couple of apps like a battery saver, Aviate launcher and occasionally a traffic monitor app like 3g Watchdog.I've been thinking about going back to Gingerbread versions, although new ones seem more enticing with features/apps like Google now.
I'm breaking my question in two parts:
1 - Can a more advanced android version like JB (or maybe KK) help make the system faster and the ram management more efficient? Or should I stick with a rom similar to stock?
2 - What roms do you recommend? Which Kernel? Or should I just face the fact my phone won't be able to comply with my current needs and I should ask Santa for an iPhone?
thanks
Reggards
Thaenor said:
Greetings,
I've been around for some time, lurking mostly. And installing a ROM with ICS or JB on my Galaxy W was a wonderful way to innovate. It feels like I'm using a brand new phone, which is awesome.
I have tried Cyanogen mod and Paranoid Android and even the PAC roms. But the issue I run while using them is that my ram seems to be full most of the time, and it's filled with system apps more than my own apps. Which limits the phone seriously. I am almost unable to use Swiftkey for typing online or even messages, since it lags too much the phone.
I plan on keeping a couple of apps like a battery saver, Aviate launcher and occasionally a traffic monitor app like 3g Watchdog.I've been thinking about going back to Gingerbread versions, although new ones seem more enticing with features/apps like Google now.
I'm breaking my question in two parts:
1 - Can a more advanced android version like JB (or maybe KK) help make the system faster and the ram management more efficient? Or should I stick with a rom similar to stock?
2 - What roms do you recommend? Which Kernel? Or should I just face the fact my phone won't be able to comply with my current needs and I should ask Santa for an iPhone?
thanks
Reggards
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try flashing one of a kind by ipromeh ... I think u will be satisfied
Ahmed.ragab said:
try flashing one of a kind by ipromeh ... I think u will be satisfied
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Thank you, I'll give it a try on the stable version.
For future reference, and to save the trouble for other people who may come here and need to search the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2120340
Thank you very much.
PS: in the mean time I'm open to more suggestions, just in case.
U should also give a try to monster build rev16. Im using it as daily build and its really light weight.
Thread found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39771952
mirosz said:
U should also give a try to monster build rev16. Im using it as daily build and its really light weight.
Thread found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39771952
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The rom crashes the settings applet everytime I try to change language to Portuguese.
Can't add widgets with aviate launcher (settings crashes)
otherwise seems alright.
My phone should arrive tomorrow and while the Cloud feature seems interesting, I am not sure I will find it very useful. On top of that I know that since Razer bought the Nextbit brand/company it is unknown just how long cloud support will be supported.
So is it recommended to put a custom ROM on it, I assume esp on XDA it is highly advised just due to the nature of the community, but what custom ROM is regarded as the best? I am sure if is up to personal opinion but generally speaking? Also, what features are hindered besides the cloud backup by using the recommended custom ROM?
Lastly, just assuming I stick with Stock OS for now, what tips and tricks does everyone have for me? Thanks in advance!
Saix_XIII said:
My phone should arrive tomorrow and while the Cloud feature seems interesting, I am not sure I will find it very useful. On top of that I know that since Razer bought the Nextbit brand/company it is unknown just how long cloud support will be supported.
So is it recommended to put a custom ROM on it, I assume esp on XDA it is highly advised just due to the nature of the community, but what custom ROM is regarded as the best? I am sure if is up to personal opinion but generally speaking? Also, what features are hindered besides the cloud backup by using the recommended custom ROM?
Lastly, just assuming I stick with Stock OS for now, what tips and tricks does everyone have for me? Thanks in advance!
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Omni is considerably recommended by pretty much everyone, but you should check out some new roms like AICP, which was just released. The only thing that doesn't work is the cloud as you mentioned. Unlock your bootloader before setting anything up when you first get it so you can flash roms and stock images as well with fastboot.
VenomMOD said:
Omni is considerably recommended by pretty much everyone, but you should check out some new roms like AICP, which was just released. The only thing that doesn't work is the cloud as you mentioned. Unlock your bootloader before setting anything up when you first get it so you can flash roms and stock images as well with fastboot.
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I like versions of Android that are light and speedy, stable, and very few of no bugs. Don't need a ton of bells and whistles. Is there a rom that allows the fingerprint scanner, NFC, and even the Android pay to work( I think I read it isn't possible for Android pay to work with custom roms? Which custom ROM is best suited for that?
While I have flashed custom roms on a few devices over the years I am no expert. Are there "idiot proof" guides out there to make sure I don't brick my new phone?
Saix_XIII said:
I like versions of Android that are light and speedy, stable, and very few of no bugs. Don't need a ton of bells and whistles. Is there a rom that allows the fingerprint scanner, NFC, and even the Android pay to work( I think I read it isn't possible for Android pay to work with custom roms? Which custom ROM is best suited for that?
While I have flashed custom roms on a few devices over the years I am no expert. Are there "idiot proof" guides out there to make sure I don't brick my new phone?
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NFC and Fingerprint work on pretty much every ROM, I can't say the same about Android pay though. If you really need everything to work and be stable, I'd stay on stock.
VenomMOD said:
NFC and Fingerprint work on pretty much every ROM, I can't say the same about Android pay though. If you really need everything to work and be stable, I'd stay on stock.
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So far on stock I am liking it. I can see what people say about it getting warm, but it cools off fast. Also battery seems decent but I play some games and watch youtube on my phone so I am used to not amazing battery life. The one thing I can't seem to get used to is how bright the notification panel is. Is there a way in the settings to change this? I looked but I can't find anything, I tried some apps that do it, but they change the aesthetics way too much outside of changing the color. I tried developer options, System UI Tuner, and even an app that enables night mode but the notification area is still bright white.
Not sure if there is a way to do it but figured I'd ask.
Saix_XIII said:
So far on stock I am liking it. I can see what people say about it getting warm, but it cools off fast. Also battery seems decent but I play some games and watch youtube on my phone so I am used to not amazing battery life. The one thing I can't seem to get used to is how bright the notification panel is. Is there a way in the settings to change this? I looked but I can't find anything, I tried some apps that do it, but they change the aesthetics way too much outside of changing the color. I tried developer options, System UI Tuner, and even an app that enables night mode but the notification area is still bright white.
Not sure if there is a way to do it but figured I'd ask.
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There isn't such a way to change the notification tint yet. Maybe it will be in an upcoming version.