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Rhodium HTC Pro 2 Camera quality very low

The camera quality is very low.
Anyone know software or procedure to improve quality ?

What do you mean, by very low? I find it quite okay for a 3.15 mp. It's not like the 5mp of the diamond 2, or those on nokia phones, but you don't buy a touch pro 2 for the camera, you know?

The only bad photos I've seen from the TP2 are when there's low lighting--the picture gets noise, distortions. Maybe if you posted one of yours and explained how you wanted it improved someone could give you some tips. Otherwise I'd recommend trying some shots in good lighting and see if you get better results.
I've never seen anyone demonstrate the 3.2mp camera of the TP2 has noticeably worse quality than the 5mp camera on D2 with side-by-sides taken under the same conditions. For the sake of people for whom picture quality is important, you'd think some blog would've given that a shot.

There is a good comparison with the HD here (you all would have seen this anyway).
I found if you change the Quality to Super Fine and increase the Sharpness to +5 under Image Properties you will squeeze a little more out of it.
Under poor lighting, you can try and tilt the device around and watch the screen while the lens gains and loses light exposure. Sometimes a small adjustment in camera angle makes all the difference.
Still auto focus and macro functionality is so much better than my Trinity.

It is what is is but I find it pretty good.
Check out the two images attached that I took on the weekend, for a phone cam it's not bad. Definitely better than the majority of 5MP phone cams out there (they pretty much all have the same rubbish sensor anyway.) These were taken with all the settings on standard (didn't know there was a super fine lol)
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evojulz said:
There is a good comparison with the HD here (you all would have seen this anyway).
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I'm amazed at the amount of noise in those TP2 shots, even the outdoor ones. That's not something I've seen in other outdoor shots from the TP2.

There are a number of reasons why the quality is bad on the Pro 2 which I am trying to work out.
1) You cannot change the capture format from JPEG, this means that JPEG compression is noticeably visible. There must be a way to change this otherwise they would not show this option
2) Metering mode algorithms - They suck! simple as that. My Sony Ericsson W800i was better at taking photos than this.
3) Sharpness - you have to play around with it as I have a feeling you either need less of it or more.
4) Resolution - I learnt from my previous phone LG Viewty (5MP) that not always the largest resolution is the best to use on all occasions. So I advise testing out the same shots but in different resolutions, I stuck with 1MP.
I think the camera has potential but the algorithms on the cam driver doesn't perform well enough for such a high end device.
How to compensate for noisy and grainy photos:
Install Noiseware for Windows
Reduce your photo like you should be doing anyway to about 50% of it's original size.
What I do is import my photos into photoshop automatically when the device is connected and I use an action to reduce all the photos in batch processes, then if I want to I'll use Noiseware to reduce some of the noise out from the photo. (Free version you have to do that manually not in PS)
Windows Mobile has Windows Update so I am pretty sure that when Windows 6.5 is officially released there will be some form of a firmware upgrade or service pack that will improve the camera quality, if not then I'm sure the cam driver is accessible for us to edit. Most likely the algorithms would be in hexadecimal format.

I honestly dont think its bad at all, but then personally I didnt buy it with the camera as one of the reasons, but for facebook etc its pretty damn good for the MP.
It is afterall a business device not a SLR.

haha it's a camera phone. The photos are supposed to be shoddy.
Those shots were taken absolutely stock with no tweaking, they are noisy, because it is a phone with a camera unit smaller than a 10p piece and a lense which is minute. They are nowhere near as noisy as in that comparison review posted and so I question the authors ability.
If you buy a phone for a camera then I really do pity you as at best the results are always going to be shocking, i.e the best camera phone is pretty much on par with the average £50 digital camera.

Can we get more users posting some test images?
Im currently deciding on a new phone and this has been on my mind, those comparison shots are pretty shoddy >< dazkeirle loo fine though

Tip: remove back cover and make sure the lense is clean!

Could it be register related?
If so, i took a peek at my registery value for the camera in:
HKLM>Drivers>BuiltIn>Camera>
My sensor type says 4100. Maybe there a different types ?
Maybe it's nothing, maybe it is.

[PHOTOS] Oppo Find 7/7a user and review shots

So talk Oppo Find 7 video & photography!
Image sensor: Sony BSI Exmor IMX214 CMOS, 1/3.06" sensor size
Maximum sensor resolution: 4160x3120, 13 megapixels
Maximum picture resolution in HD Mode: 8160x6120, 50MP (HD Mode stitches together 10 normal shots)
Lens: F2.0, 6-element auto-focus system
Front facing camera: 5 megapixel
Maximum video resolution: 3840x2160 = 4k at 30FPS, 1920x1080 at 60FPS, 1280x720p at 120FPS
HDR, panorama, smile detection, macro, night mode, tap to focus
Phandroid review shows off top notch photo quality, 50 megapixel HD images
Source, full size images: http://phandroid.com/2014/04/21/oppo-find-7a-review/
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See more Phandroid images and read the full review here:
http://phandroid.com/2014/04/21/oppo-find-7a-review/

Phandroid also posted a couple of video samples
4K in the park, thx Baljeet Rana
Danny Winger made a 7a walkthrough and posted a 4k video

Analyzing the shots posted so far, the Oppo Find 7a's IMX214 sensor captures impressive amount of details, high per pixel sharpness with nice all around clarity thx to the consistently sharp lens and low amount of post-processing. HDR is working well too, no inconsistencies. I guess saturation could be a slightly bit higher. Video clarity is quite nice too, 4k offers all the details we can ask for.
PhoneArena review shots
For full size photos please visit PhoneArenas's full detailed review here: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Oppo-Find-7a-Review_id3669/page/3
Normal vs. HDR
Strong light, Medium Light, Low Light, Darkness with Flash

GSM Arena review is in - fine image quality!
You can read GSMA's review here with full size images & EXIF: http://www.gsmarena.com/oppo_find_7a-review-1073p8.php
The camera produces sharp, highly detailed, images with good dynamic range and fine color reproduction, at a few shots sky blue is maybe a tad on the purple side, nothing too much.
HDR is quite aggressive, bringing a lot of clipped dark and bright details alive. It appears there's a little saturation boost too
The phone can capture up to 32 second frames meaning you can do highly detailed low ISO shots as well as artistic DSLR-like ones during the night, this one's my favorite so far:

Loving the rear camera. Only complaint is the subpar slow motion '720p' video. Really looks like maybe 480p upscaled, not impressive.
Taking some great shots, quick focus and shutter. Great night auto night shots compared to my S4 and panorama stitches nicely for me in the one or two I've tried.
Front camera leaves something to be desired for me though. I understand there's the beautify filter that's enabled by default, but I notice a pretty bad foggy haze from there as well. Might just be the indoor lighting conditions I've tried with, but not impressed yet.

Here is a quick macro shot as I walked by.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5y22ebyfo8up2mq/IMG20140505123000.jpg

GibMcFragger said:
Here is a quick macro shot as I walked by.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5y22ebyfo8up2mq/IMG20140505123000.jpg
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Very impressive shot and camera details! :good:

GibMcFragger said:
Here is a quick macro shot as I walked by.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5y22ebyfo8up2mq/IMG20140505123000.jpg
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Very amazing shot!! :good::laugh:

This camera is pretty killer
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I love this phone but my wife love it, too. finally.......TT
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BoneXDA said:
The phone can capture up to 32 second frames meaning you can do highly detailed low ISO shots as well as artistic DSLR-like ones during the night, this one's my favorite so far:
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This is a 4s shutter.
Anyone got any 32s ones ?

here are some nice shots I did until now
(makro & slowshutter)
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robin216 said:
here are some nice shots I did until now
(makro & slowshutter)
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Wow, the macro shots are really impressive... Cool - Can't wait for my Oppo Find 7 (DHL - it should be here before weekend)
The "slowshutter" shot, did you just kept the phone in the hand? I am to shaky for things like this...
lienot

Lienot said:
Wow, the macro shots are really impressive... Cool - Can't wait for my Oppo Find 7 (DHL - it should be here before weekend)
The "slowshutter" shot, did you just kept the phone in the hand? I am to shaky for things like this...
lienot
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thank you! it's not possible to make sharp slow shutter photos while holding the phone in your hands.. i bought a small tripod for it here some more i did all taken by night and totally darkness!
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robin216 said:
thank you! it's not possible to make sharp slow shutter photos while holding the phone in your hands.. i bought a small tripod for it here some more i did all taken by night and totally darkness!
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Wow! Real nice photos. Can't wait to play around with this thing. I hope they ship it fast!
lienot

Columbus Circle - NYC using Slow Shutter

[Q] How do you like the camera so far? What do you want to see changed?

Short and sweet, description explains it all. Tell em what youd like to see changed on the camera such as quality, sound quality, length of recording or are u happy with it.

NOTHING! The camera is amazing!

Rich Shwe said:
NOTHING! The camera is amazing!
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then your gonna love what i have in store in the next hour.. lol

13 minutes left. Let's have it!
The camera truly is a huge improvement over the Note 3 (and possibly better than the Note 2 if its even equal it is better since it has more pixels)
Just took some night shots tonight. WOW what an improvement.
Here is the Note 3 No Flash a "relatively bright" nighttime scene
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http://i.imgur.com/fdW25jh.jpg
Here is the Note 3 with Flash
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http://i.imgur.com/hTMkos3.jpg
and Here is the Note 4 NO flash. it came out so nice I did not even bother with a "flash" shot.
Link for Full Size
http://i.imgur.com/gGMiN75.jpg
and there is a hell of a lot more to it than just light gathering too. Download the full size and look at the actual achieved resolution and quality and sharpness.
Stock. no modifications raw images from both units direct to imgur.
HUGE improvement. Finally
you want to REALLY see a difference? ZOOM in on the license plate frame on the pickup truck on the left edge of the images.
Remarkable improvement.
The flash note 3 image is "readable" but still far far from as good as the Note 4.
and the Note 4 is not nearly so aggressive with the "sharpening" as the Note 3 is (it does not need to be)
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BTW. what do I want to see improved? IE what sucks about the camera? what I want changed?
the god damned burst mode is still "crippled" in the Note 4.
it needs its OWN MODE OPTION so there is NO delay. TOUCH the button and BAM instantly starts the rapid fire burst. (30frames now too)
they still have it "combined" with standard pic taking so you have to hold the button for a second before it decides OK you want burst and starts bursting. I can't capture rockets with that 1sec delay. The danged things are 1000 feet up in 1 second.
The only other thing (minor) that I don't like is that the highest resolution is 16mp 16:9
to get 4:3 I have to downgrade to 12mp. so the sensor itself is "shorter" vertically (notice how much more of the building roofs the N3 gets)
Would have been nice to have 18 or 20mp 4:3 and 16mp 16:9

Yes every photo I've taken is rich in detail i took a pic of my hand and could see every tiny hair on it. This phone is truly a beast

Yeah, don't quite understand myself why it's not available to choose a larger 4:3 aspect ratio, I'd like to see that if the sensor allows it. Though I feel like it should

My guess is that the sensor itself is native 16:9
the Note 3 sensor was native 4:3 the 16:9 was "cropped" which is why it was a lower resolution. (which is why you should NEVER use it since you can crop it yourself later if you wish)
The note 4 sensor appears to be native 16:9

Rich Shwe said:
NOTHING! The camera is amazing!
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nerys71 said:
13 minutes left. Let's have it!
The camera truly is a huge improvement over the Note 3 (and possibly better than the Note 2 if its even equal it is better since it has more pixels)
Just took some night shots tonight. WOW what an improvement.
Here is the Note 3 No Flash a "relatively bright" nighttime scene
Link for Full Size
http://i.imgur.com/fdW25jh.jpg
Here is the Note 3 with Flash
Link for Full Size
http://i.imgur.com/hTMkos3.jpg
and Here is the Note 4 NO flash. it came out so nice I did not even bother with a "flash" shot.
Link for Full Size
http://i.imgur.com/gGMiN75.jpg
and there is a hell of a lot more to it than just light gathering too. Download the full size and look at the actual achieved resolution and quality and sharpness.
Stock. no modifications raw images from both units direct to imgur.
HUGE improvement. Finally
you want to REALLY see a difference? ZOOM in on the license plate frame on the pickup truck on the left edge of the images.
Remarkable improvement.
The flash note 3 image is "readable" but still far far from as good as the Note 4.
and the Note 4 is not nearly so aggressive with the "sharpening" as the Note 3 is (it does not need to be)
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BTW. what do I want to see improved? IE what sucks about the camera? what I want changed?
the god damned burst mode is still "crippled" in the Note 4.
it needs its OWN MODE OPTION so there is NO delay. TOUCH the button and BAM instantly starts the rapid fire burst. (30frames now too)
they still have it "combined" with standard pic taking so you have to hold the button for a second before it decides OK you want burst and starts bursting. I can't capture rockets with that 1sec delay. The danged things are 1000 feet up in 1 second.
The only other thing (minor) that I don't like is that the highest resolution is 16mp 16:9
to get 4:3 I have to downgrade to 12mp. so the sensor itself is "shorter" vertically (notice how much more of the building roofs the N3 gets)
Would have been nice to have 18 or 20mp 4:3 and 16mp 16:9
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Rich Shwe said:
Yes every photo I've taken is rich in detail i took a pic of my hand and could see every tiny hair on it. This phone is truly a beast
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Try this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/themes-apps/mod-camera-quality-mod-t2917501

Joey121215 said:
Yeah, don't quite understand myself why it's not available to choose a larger 4:3 aspect ratio, I'd like to see that if the sensor allows it. Though I feel like it should
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I try to check it out

kevinrocksman said:
I try to check it out
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Thanks man, always loved your stuff. Even back in the EVO days

not very good images for a comparison shot but one is 96% and the other is 100%. Difference is 15KB (granted not much color in the shot)
(My mod)

Why Nexus 5X take high resolution photos in 4:3 aspect ratio rather than 16:9 ?

I like photos to be taken in 16:9 aspect ratio as you can view them on full screen of mobile and can see details of photos . Galaxy s5 had 16 mega pixel camera taking photos in 16:9 ratio why nexus 5x camera allow 16:9 aspect ratio only in 8 mega pixel while aspect ratio is 4.3 when you go for taking photo sin maximum resolution? Is this restriction from native camera or camera application? I also hate google camera app of nexus 5x which has very limited options and ugly design..even when you take photo in 16.9 ratio they have black bars restrict the views unlike samsung, sony camera app where you can see viewfinder on all screen?
can anyone suggest some camera app which are as good as sony/Samsung/htc built in camera app and also if its possible to take photo in maximum resolution in 16: 9 aspect ratio,,thanks

The 5X has a 4:3 sensor. In order to shoot 16:9 it must crop the image. If the sensor were 16:9, shooting 4:3 would crop the image and would be less megapixels. There is a good graphic floating around that displays this better, let me look for it...

PiousInquisitor said:
The 5X has a 4:3 sensor. In order to shoot 16:9 it must crop the image. If the sensor were 16:9, shooting 4:3 would crop the image and would be less megapixels. There is a good graphic floating around that displays this better, let me look for it...
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So you mean its hardware thing that cannot be change by using any others camera app? When others popular camera phone can have hardware who take full resolution pics in aspect ratio of 16.9 why Google did not implemented this in their camera? photos in 4:3 aspect ratio dont look good on small screen of mobile..I never seen any cropping issues in previous devices

Rajaasim1980 said:
So you mean its hardware thing that cannot be change by using any others camera app? When others popular camera phone can have hardware who take full resolution pics in aspect ratio of 16.9 why Google did not implemented this in their camera? photos in 4:3 aspect ratio dont look good on small screen of mobile..I never seen any cropping issues in previous devices
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Yes it's hardware. An app isn't going to make any difference. Why did Google go with 4:3 ratio? I don't know. For reference my Galaxy S7 is also a 4:3.
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PiousInquisitor said:
Yes it's hardware. An app isn't going to make any difference. Why did Google go with 4:3 ratio? I don't know. For reference my Galaxy S7 is also a 4:3.
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Oh i see. I used s6 and s5 along with experia devices and they were all 16:9 at maximum resolution which were great for viewing photos and videos//..may be be 4:3 aspect ratio look good if you go for printing but it definitely look ugly on mobile as you have to zoom to see the details in photos..also can we change white balance as 5x take sharp photos but are little dark..or this thing also restricted by sensor

Rajaasim1980 said:
Oh i see. I used s6 and s5 along with experia devices and they were all 16:9 at maximum resolution which were great for viewing photos and videos//..may be be 4:3 aspect ratio look good if you go for printing but it definitely look ugly on mobile as you have to zoom to see the details in photos..also can we change white balance as 5x take sharp photos but are little dark..or this thing also restricted by sensor
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You can change ISO, whitebalence, and shutter speed with the right app.
Camera fv5 for example.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.lite
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Rajaasim1980 said:
Oh i see. I used s6 and s5 along with experia devices and they were all 16:9 at maximum resolution which were great for viewing photos and videos//..may be be 4:3 aspect ratio look good if you go for printing but it definitely look ugly on mobile as you have to zoom to see the details in photos..also can we change white balance as 5x take sharp photos but are little dark..or this thing also restricted by sensor
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I had the S5 too and thought I preferred the 16:9 ratio of it but then I compared pics.
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The 5X might be "only" 4:3 but it's got way more content all around. It makes the S5 look like it was cropped.
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EeZeEpEe said:
I had the S5 too and thought I preferred the 16:9 ratio of it but then I compared pics.
S5
5X
The 5X might be "only" 4:3 but it's got way more content all around. It makes the S5 look like it was cropped.
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May be you are right. But i was talking about looking at picture on mobile screen where aspect ratio of 16:9 make difference ..photos in ratio 4:3 need to be zoomed if you want to look at details..secondly i personally dont mind cropping as long as object appear closer..but i also took these pictures for comparison
5x
S5
5x
S5
it seem s5 camera is comparable to 5x eventhogh its two/three generation old

Rajaasim1980 said:
May be you are right. But i was talking about looking at picture on mobile screen where aspect ratio of 16:9 make difference ..photos in ratio 4:3 need to be zoomed if you want to look at details..secondly i personally dont mind cropping as long as object appear closer..but i also took these pictures for comparison
5x
S5
5x
S5
it seem s5 camera is comparable to 5x eventhogh its two/three generation old
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But that's why you gotta zoom in "with your feet" so to speak especially with objects photos like that bike. The lens is a much wider angle.
For day time the S5 holds its own but low light and night there's no comparison, the 5X gets much more light and less grain especially with HDR+ on. Details in the sky are missing in the S5 pic which the 5X picked up.
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GizCam GZ20 Pionner - Wi-Fi Action Camera - NT96660 | Sony IMX078 | 16MP | GizApp

Introduction
This is the GizCam GZ20
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This device is powered by a Novatek NT96660 Chipset with a Sony IMX078 Sensor, so 16MP Resolution is interpolated from 12MP. Maybe the box is right, you can read 12MP here, but official specs together with the software say 16MP.
Official Specs are not so complete, so i do not anything else about the camera. Anyway, i am sure that this is a re-branded SJ8000/SJ9000 with a new firmware.
Unboxing
As most of all Action Camera, its packaging comes with lots of accessories:
1 x Action Camera (of cours
1 x Multi-language Manual
2 x 900mAh Li-ion Battery
1 x Waterproof Housing
1 x Camera Front Cover
1 x 90 Degree Adapter
1 x Bicycle Bracket
1 x Cleaning Cloth
1 x Camera Clip
2 x Helmet Base
2 x 3M Adhesive
1 x USB Cable
1 x Rear Clip
3 x Adapters
2 x Bandage
1 x Base
Following the usual GoPro design, this camera fits inside GoPro accessories and is pretty compact. Just 5.89x4.09x2.46mm.
On the front side there is the Power/Mode button, some words about the camera and the big fish-eye lens.
On the the right side there are the Selection Buttons, up/down, used to manage the menu, increase-decrease zoom, etc...
On the back side there are: the display, not IPS, with a decent resolution, and two LEDs for Power & Activity.
On the upper side there is the OK button with a Yellow LED that seems to be pretty useless because works just like the Activity LED placed on the front.
On the lower side there is just the battery slot covered by the battery door.
Device
Screen
The screen is bright, but being a TN variant, not IPS, the viewing angles are pretty bad. Maybe a better quality display would have been much better.
Camera Sensor Quality
As regards the Sony IMX078 sensor, well...it works sufficiently good for Videos up to 1080p. After 1080p there are no noticeable Quality Differences even though the resolution is higher. All videos have been recorded with Gyro RSC feature, that is Software Stabilization.
Unfortunately, just like on almost all Chinese Action Cameras, the 4K resolution is not real, but interpolated from 2K. Basically, anything over 2K is useless with this Camera Sensor and Chipset. There is no native 4K resolution supported here.
1080p 60fps quality is pretty good, real 60fps video, smooth and with a nice quality.
720p 120fps is weird, this is what is used for Slow Motion and it is definitely broken. The video is saved at 720p 30fps, and the slow motion quality is pretty bad. I would have expected something better.
All other resolutions are not useful to be tested, but you can see almost all supported video res.
I don't know why they call this Stabilization "Gyro" when there is no gyroscope or electronic stabilization here, this is weird. Anyway, it works good enough even if it is software-only, still better than nothing.
Microphone Quality seems to be decent, no complains about it and the speaker quality is surprisingly crisp.
Photos Resolution goes up to 16MP, interpolated from 12MP.
WiFi Feature
The Wi-Fi feature enables this camera to be controlled using an Android or iOS smartphone, using the GizCam GZ20 app.
The App isn't great, old UI and no features at all, but it works completely with no issues at all.
It supports remote playback of stored files, pretty useful for those who do not want to switch the MicroSD card.
Battery Life
The 900mAh battery seems to be hard-to-discharge, i managed to record all test videos and i still have to discharge the first battery! This is awesome, real 900mAh power is here, or maybe even more. Great Battery Life.
Charging Times are high though, it took more than 2 hours to recharge a battery, so please be patient with this process.
Software
The software is easy to use, and features some nice options such as Car Mode, Motion Detection and so on...
Conclusions
Being my first Action Camera review you might have expected something better, and please tell me if you need to know anything else. After all these tests, and considering the price of this camera, i'm not sure if this is a best-buy. The price is too high, even though the quality is decent.
So, do I recommend it? If you can't find anything better at this price, yes, but remember that this won't provide real 4K videos.
Pros:
Great Battery Life
GoPro Accessories Compatible
Bright Screen
Lots of Accessories included
Awesome 1080p 60fps Quality
Cons:
4K 24fps Videos are not real
720p 120fps Slow Motion is weird
No IPS screen
Price is too high
Rating: 8.2
Packaging and Accessories: 10
Design and Materials: 9
Performance and Videos Resolution: 7
Screen: 7
Camera Sensor Quality: 8
Sound: 8
Battery Life: 9
Software: 8
OEM Support: 9
Price: 7
You can find full-res images (I know, Quality isn't excellent) here: http://imgur.com/a/r98kh
Official Website: http://www.gizcam.com/
You can buy it on Amazon.​