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OK so my evo has the 2.10 bootloader and software version 3.70. 651.1. I tried using the Z4root method to temporarily root then flash Unrevoked Forever but hit a snag. Though the temp root works and I flashed clockworkmod and Ra recoveries, when I try to boot into recovery to flash Unrevoked Forever I just get the phone with the red triangle and exclamation mark. I'm assuming this has to do with having the newest bootloader from the latest ota but any guidance would be appreciated.
dont use z4root for the 2.10 bootloader...not a fool proof method of rooting...you need to return your evo back to stock by downloading a ruu from this site and plugging your evo into the computer and boot into boot loader and run whtat you downloaded on your desktop ....http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Supersonic
once you have the evo returned to stock, use this root method to root hboot 2.10
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
this by far is the best method to root hboot 2.10
What is the point of running the Ruu? Would running an older ruu change the hboot back or leave it as-is?
Running the ruu that came with your phone will return your phone back to stock out of the box so you have a clean slate to use the root guide I gave you a link to...the root guide I gave u is the only reliable method for hboot 2.10
The reason you are having problems rooting with unrevoked is because unrevoked does not work with hboot 2.02 or 2.10
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I was rooted on 3.29 and unrooted so I could install the OTA 3.70. Unfortunately, hboot still shows S-OFF, so now I can't root or unroot. Will flashing the stock 3.70 RUU flip S-OFF back to S-ON so I can root again?
In order for you to switch between s on and s off google search unrevoked forever and use their tool to toggle s on and s off
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I had 2.02 hboot then I rooted and then derooted bc of issues. I noticed my hboot changed to 2.10. I followed the savior method and use z4root and all is well. I had zero issues.
weaselp1 said:
In order for you to switch between s on and s off google search unrevoked forever and use their tool to toggle s on and s off
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I tried unrevoked-forever-son.zip, but it looks like it runs from recovery, which I can't get into. When I try, I get the red exclamation point and can only get out with the volume up and power buttons.
This took me all day to figure out so I'm making a guide. The 2 Big problems I had were getting the S-on patch to work and the newer Hboot that came with gingerbread refusing to downgrade to an older PC36IMG.zip.
The main reason I wanted to return to stock was for a repair, last time i did everything except s-on and the guy noticed it and black listed my esn.
Make sure you are prepared before you continue! Once you flash your radio your phone wont boot into the OS.
First, you need to flash an older radio for the S-ON patch to even work. I found flashing EVO_Radio_2.15.00.07.28.zip worked best. Do this in your custom recovery
Follow djR3Z's guide to turn S-ON but do not go past step 7!
Download this file I got this off a youtube video for the incredible and replaced the files with their EVO specific counterparts
Open the zip and move flash_image and mtd0.img to your sdk/tools/ folder
boot into your custom recovery and mount /system/
open up a command prompt in your tools folder
(in windows7 hold shift and right click on /tools/ there will be an option to "open command window")
Run the commands in the commands.txt file. FYI you can paste into command prompt with right click.
adb push flash_image /data
adb push mtd0.img /data
adb shell
chmod 777 /data/flash_image
cd /data
flash_image misc mtd0.img
exit
adb reboot oem-78
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After this you can move your stock PC36IMG.zip to the root of your SD card and reboot into your Hboot Bootloader. If everything was done correctly it should now accept PC36IMG and downgrade to stock.
Great job! Do you think there will be an easier way in the future? I don't think I would be able to do this.
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If you run the 3.70 RUU while still s-off, will it replace the hboot with an older version? It seems like it should, but I'm confused by the 6.16 hboot.
I haven't actually ran revolutionary, so this is all theory, but I thought unrooting/s-on would work like this:
Run the RUU for 3.70. I don't have much experience with RUUs, but if they don't include radios, you would then need to reflash recovery and downgrade the radio. After reflashing etc, then flash the s-on zip. Then rerun the RUU for 3.70 to get rid of your custom recovery, or run the RUU for 4.24, since once you're s-on you can't downgrade & every RUU will be a downgrade from 6.16 hboot.
Now this may be entirely wrong, but I was just curious if it would work. I've been rooted for a while, and unrooting and s-on would be much easier for me. Even though it sounds like a pain, it still sounds more noob friendly than the version in the OP.
Either way, great job on putting this together. I know that a lot of people are curious about unrooting from revolutionary, so hopefully you've cleared some confusion.
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Sfork said:
First, you need to flash an older radio for the S-ON patch to even work. I found flashing EVO_Radio_2.15.00.07.28.zip worked best. Do this in your custom recovery
Follow djR3Z's guide to turn S-ON but do not go past step 7!
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I can't get this step to work, try as I have to get S-ON back, it won't go. Doesn't the Revolutionary HBOOT prevent this from working?
The unrevoked-son zip flashes fine, and says it worked, but I'm still S-OFF. What did you do to get it to work?
@plainjane
HBOOT will not update to an older version. If that were possible, the GB OTA wouldn't have had to be rooted at all, since everyone would've been able to downgrade to a rootable HBOOT version.
It's that fact that makes me wary of this method working at all. Can the steps after the "S-ON" portion be completed (which I assume finds a way to downgrade HBOOT), and then run the S-ON tool & flash the stock PC36IMG? I think that's what I'll try now, since I can't get it working in the order specified here.
Captain_Throwback said:
I can't get this step to work, try as I have to get S-ON back, it won't go. Doesn't the Revolutionary HBOOT prevent this from working?
The unrevoked-son zip flashes fine, and says it worked, but I'm still S-OFF. What did you do to get it to work?
@plainjane
HBOOT will not update to an older version. If that were possible, the GB OTA wouldn't have had to be rooted at all, since everyone would've been able to downgrade to a rootable HBOOT version.
It's that fact that makes me wary of this method working at all. Can the steps after the "S-ON" portion be completed (which I assume finds a way to downgrade HBOOT), and then run the S-ON tool & flash the stock PC36IMG? I think that's what I'll try now, since I can't get it working in the order specified here.
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You can downgrade via RUU if you're s-off. My suggestion was to run the RUU while still s-off, because s-on won't allow you to downgrade. Or, if the RUU won't replace the bootloader, then flash an older hboot.
Then, if you're still s-off, flash the s-on tool. I don't know if this root method uses unrevoked forever or if it's just an always s-off hboot. I do know that it's a different hboot version.
If anyone has a chance to try to run the 3.70 RUU and see if it downgrades the hboot, I'd like to know. If it doesn't, but the RUU completes, then you should be able to flash recovery and then flash an older hboot - I believe 2.10 is the one that shipped with 3.70. Mine is 2.02, and I never updated to 3.70 (I believe it was 3.30 when I rooted).
Again, it's just a theory. If I get curious enough then I may unroot and update just to try revolutionary and try to unroot again, but I'd rather not get stuck with a horrendously obvious 6.16 hboot that can't be replaced/unrooted if I don't have to.
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plainjane said:
You can downgrade via RUU if you're s-off. My suggestion was to run the RUU while still s-off, because s-on won't allow you to downgrade. Or, if the RUU won't replace the bootloader, then flash an older hboot.
Then, if you're still s-off, flash the s-on tool. I don't know if this root method uses unrevoked forever or if it's just an always s-off hboot. I do know that it's a different hboot version.
If anyone has a chance to try to run the 3.70 RUU and see if it downgrades the hboot, I'd like to know. If it doesn't, but the RUU completes, then you should be able to flash recovery and then flash an older hboot - I believe 2.10 is the one that shipped with 3.70. Mine is 2.02, and I never updated to 3.70 (I believe it was 3.30 when I rooted).
Again, it's just a theory. If I get curious enough then I may unroot and update just to try revolutionary and try to unroot again, but I'd rather not get stuck with a horrendously obvious 6.16 hboot that can't be replaced/unrooted if I don't have to.
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What I was saying is, at least with the Revolutionary HBOOT (6.16), it will not downgrade, either using the 3.70 Froyo RUU or the 4.24 GB RUU or PC36IMG.zip files flashed through Fastboot. It bypasses the Bootloader update every time.
Have you somehow gotten HBOOT to downgrade while S-OFF?
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What I was saying is, at least with the Revolutionary HBOOT (6.16), it will not downgrade, either using the 3.70 Froyo RUU or the 4.24 GB RUU or PC36IMG.zip files flashed through Fastboot. It bypasses the Bootloader update every time.
Have you somehow gotten HBOOT to downgrade while S-OFF?
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Hboot 6.16 will not downgrade or flash S-ON currently.
i have tried every method i can find to get s-on after root with revolutionary. i have flashed the s-on zip and all it does is get rid of the red bar that says "revolutionary". it still say s-off. ive done it from a custom rom and a stock rom. done it through flashing and done it buy naming the zip pc36img it installs successfully but still shows s-off. any help is appreciated
#1. The s-on is NOT 4 revolutionary. Search for how 2 unroot revolutionaty root. Its the thread with a whole bunch of ??? at the end of the title. That should lead u toward the light.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18399552&postcount=2
thank you guys for the feedback, i will try that
just tried the method posted, got back to stock rom and what not but still s-off
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16949711&postcount=15
funny thing is, there is a s-on tool for revolutionary... when i did flash it it got rid of the red bar on the top of the bootloader menu but still had s-off, i think im going to try flashing that hboot version with android flasher tonight. its weird cuz the phone im trying to unroot is not reading pc36img files i pout on it but my own phone will
Downgrade your radio and use the unrevoked method to go s-on..
ca1ne said:
Downgrade your radio and use the unrevoked method to go s-on..
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Depends on what radio version he/she has. If I'm not mistaken the recent radio updates dont allow you to downgrade.
just flashed that hboot file, didnt do anything
my hboot version is 6.17
Took it to a repair shop and instead of repairing they gave me a replacement.
v2.3.5
baseband 2.15.00.12.19
build 4.67.651.3
software 4.67.651.3
pri 2.33_003
prl 60685
last time I rooted was with unrevoked forever. the new method is revolutionary right?
lostsoul77 said:
Took it to a repair shop and instead of repairing they gave me a replacement.
v2.3.5
baseband 2.15.00.12.19
build 4.67.651.3
software 4.67.651.3
pri 2.33_003
prl 60685
last time I rooted was with unrevoked forever. the new method is revolutionary right?
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since your on 2.3.5 you most likely have hboot 2.18. Your root method is going to be HTCdev.com. After you s-on unlocked with HTC dev you can either downgrade to a earlier version like froyo or GB and root with unrevoked or revolutionary or you can stay s-on unlocked but lose out on certain things because you wont be fully NAND unlocked(s-off) just unlocked s-on
lostsoul77 said:
Took it to a repair shop and instead of repairing they gave me a replacement.
v2.3.5
baseband 2.15.00.12.19
build 4.67.651.3
software 4.67.651.3
pri 2.33_003
prl 60685
last time I rooted was with unrevoked forever. the new method is revolutionary right?
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HBOOT IS 2.18.0001 which revolutionary doesn't appear to support. Also highlighted in pink it is displaying *** LOCKED (OOW) ***
I have a feeling someone is going to tell me it cant be rooted....
lostsoul77 said:
HBOOT IS 2.18.0001 which revolutionary doesn't appear to support. Also highlighted in pink it is displaying *** LOCKED (OOW) ***
I have a feeling someone is going to tell me it cant be rooted....
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Have to use HTCdev.com to s-on unlock then flash recovery through fastboot then superuser binaries and superuser zip
heres a guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1473373
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evo4gnoob said:
Have to use HTCdev.com to s-on unlock then flash recovery through fastboot then superuser binaries and superuser zip
heres a guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1473373
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do i need to downgrade my hboot? revolutionary site only gives 2.15.0001 and 2.16.0001 as options. I did the the s-on unlock successfully.
lostsoul77 said:
do i need to downgrade my hboot? revolutionary site only gives 2.15.0001 and 2.16.0001 as options. I did the the s-on unlock successfully.
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up to you. Do you want to downgrade to Froyo to use unrevoked or GB to use revoltuionary. You can flash roms with s-on unlocked just miss out on some perks S-OFF users have
evo4gnoob said:
up to you. Do you want to downgrade to Froyo to use unrevoked or GB to use revoltuionary. You can flash roms with s-on unlocked just miss out on some perks S-OFF users have
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I would rather use revolutionary as I've rooted a few other people's evo's with that method and it went fairly smooth. What im confused about is the hboot. I have to get the hboot to atleast 2.16.0001 and simply flashing a GB rom won't do that right? So do I need to find the radio thread and find an hboot file and can I even downgrade the hboot from 2.18 to 2.16 in order to use revolutionary to obtain s-off so that i can go back to what i was used to?
lostsoul77 said:
I would rather use revolutionary as I've rooted a few other people's evo's with that method and it went fairly smooth. What im confused about is the hboot. I have to get the hboot to atleast 2.16.0001 and simply flashing a GB rom won't do that right? So do I need to find the radio thread and find an hboot file and can I even downgrade the hboot from 2.18 to 2.16 in order to use revolutionary to obtain s-off so that i can go back to what i was used to?
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Simply flashing a rom wont affect radios ect. With S-on unlocked you CANT flash radios or hboots so you have to do a certain process in order to downgrade. You have to follow these steps exactly in order to downgrade. http://themikmik.com/showthread.php...18-HBOOT-with-HTCDev-com-No-More-Watermark!-)
evo4gnoob said:
Simply flashing a rom wont affect radios ect. With S-on unlocked you CANT flash radios or hboots so you have to do a certain process in order to downgrade. You have to follow these steps exactly in order to downgrade. http://themikmik.com/showthread.php...18-HBOOT-with-HTCDev-com-No-More-Watermark!-)
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Thanks so much for your help Evo4gnoob! i'm almost back to where i need to be. currently pushing recovery again via unrevoked.
lostsoul77 said:
Thanks so much for your help Evo4gnoob! i'm almost back to where i need to be. currently pushing recovery again via unrevoked.
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spoke too soon, having problems pushing recovery with unrevoked. says installing unrevoked3 service and been like that for 5mins
Not trying to sound like an A-Hole here, but what you have to do is exactly what evo4gnoob saays. Theres certain steps you have to take. evo helped me root my device with the exact same setup you have flawlessly. Hes pretty sharp. Take his advice and let him teach you.
drlzanej said:
Not trying to sound like an A-Hole here, but what you have to do is exactly what evo4gnoob saays. Theres certain steps you have to take. evo helped me root my device with the exact same setup you have flawlessly. Hes pretty sharp. Take his advice and let him teach you.
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I have it to where it is currently running Froyo. I followed all of the instructions. I'm not trying to root it using unrevoked as after downgrading, the root access was taken away. The unrevoked app pushes the recovery and sits at a status of "installing unrevoked3 service..." and never finishes. That's where i'm stuck at. I'm not new to rooting, just didn't have to go about it this way the last time. If unrevoked keeps failing, then I will give revolutionary a try if it supports froyo.
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I have it to where it is currently running Froyo. I followed all of the instructions. I'm not trying to root it using unrevoked as after downgrading, the root access was taken away. The unrevoked app pushes the recovery and sits at a status of "installing unrevoked3 service..." and never finishes. That's where i'm stuck at. I'm not new to rooting, just didn't have to go about it this way the last time. If unrevoked keeps failing, then I will give revolutionary a try if it supports froyo.
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I've never used unrevoked so I have no idea how it works. Always felt that revolutionary was more simpler. Revolutionary only supports hboot 2.16 and 2.15 so you can take a ota just make sure its not the 4.67 ota
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evo4gnoob said:
I've never used unrevoked so I have no idea how it works. Always felt that revolutionary was more simpler. Revolutionary only supports hboot 2.16 and 2.15 so you can take a ota just make sure its not the 4.67 ota
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I did the OTA which upgraded me to 2.33 and hboot 2.16 and tried running revolutionary. Installed the fast boot drivers as well. receiving this error:
Zerging Root... this might take a minute or so.. rawadb_open: remote closed the
connection looking for target "sync:"
Communications with phone unexpectedly interrupted. Try again.
Press (almost) any key to exit.
There is nothing using any usb port. This is becoming frustrating now
lostsoul77 said:
I did the OTA which upgraded me to 2.33 and hboot 2.16 and tried running revolutionary. Installed the fast boot drivers as well. receiving this error:
Zerging Root... this might take a minute or so.. rawadb_open: remote closed the
connection looking for target "sync:"
Communications with phone unexpectedly interrupted. Try again.
Press (almost) any key to exit.
There is nothing using any usb port. This is becoming frustrating now
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finally got it! had to reinstall the drivers.
Hell yeah, Are you s-on or s-off. as stated by evo4gnoob earlier, there are more advantages to s-off. flashing kernells,radios and such. Makes for a much more enjoyable expierience as far as flashing and moding,,,Later
drlzanej said:
Hell yeah, Are you s-on or s-off. as stated by evo4gnoob earlier, there are more advantages to s-off. flashing kernells,radios and such. Makes for a much more enjoyable expierience as far as flashing and moding,,,Later
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s-off, latest radios, and running MikG3.11...rooted with revolutionary after the long process of downgrading to froyo and upgrading to GB; unrevoked simply wasnt working correctly. An unrooted phone is just wrong on so many levels! LOL! Thank you guys much for all of your help! It's members like you who make this forum so great!
you can use htcdev to get s-off then use revolutionary to gain root.
4bdnf8 said:
you can use htcdev to get s-off then use revolutionary to gain root.
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htcdev does not give you s-off and revolutionary doesnt give you root it just s-offs you and installs a custom recovery
evo4gnoob said:
htcdev does not give you s-off and revolutionary doesnt give you root it just s-offs you and installs a custom recovery
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HTCDEV unlocks the bootloader
revolutionary and unrevoked give you root and s-off. I used revolutionary and I definetly have root as well as s-off.
I just unlocked my cousins evo 4g. I was wondering if I need s-off to flash Roms. If so. Can someone give me a link to a tutorial .
Well, you need Clockworkmod but you can't install clockworkmod without S-off, my Evo actually has S-on with clockworkmod and I can install roms no problem I don't even know how S turned back on but it did lol... It's really easy to google and find a guide on rooting/turning s-off but regardless here ya go, it's a list of a ton of guides for the Evo and rooting involves turning s-off.
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/491123-evo-4g-all-things-root-guide.html
I did install clockworkmod while on s-on
iTzLOLtrain said:
I just unlocked my cousins evo 4g. I was wondering if I need s-off to flash Roms. If so. Can someone give me a link to a tutorial .
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If you are like me, and would rather visually see it happen, go check out the beloved YouTube. There are lots of videos of people showing you exactly how to do it, step by step.
Hit thanks if I turned you in the right direction!
Good Luck!
Unrevoked rev works well to root it if you didn't take the latest OTA Clockwork mod 4.0 works well for it afterwards to flash and wipe.
If you are s-on (OOW unlocked) on hboot 2.18 u can used fastboot to flash a recovery, you should be using Amon RA on the evo and not cwm or twrp. If you are on hboot 2.15/.16 you need to use revolutionary.io to achieve s-off and gain recovery and the flash SU and SU binaries. Any hboot prior to 2.16 you use unrevoked or one of its variants to get s-off. If you're hboot 2.18 s-on locked you use htcdev.com to unlock the bootloader from there you can use fastboot to flash recovery or you can follow captain throwbacks guide to downgrade your hboot to an earlier version and achieve s-off. With s-on unlocked you can do (almost) anything you can do with s-off except you won't be able to flash PC36IMG.zip files, which include recoveries, radio updates, splashscreens, and RUU files.
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
If you are s-on (OOW unlocked) on hboot 2.18 u can used fastboot to flash a recovery, you should be using Amon RA on the evo and not cwm or twrp. If you are on hboot 2.15/.16 you need to use revolutionary.io to achieve s-off and gain recovery and the flash SU and SU binaries. Any hboot prior to 2.16 you use unrevoked or one of its variants to get s-off. If you're hboot 2.18 s-on locked you use htcdev.com to unlock the bootloader from there you can use fastboot to flash recovery or you can follow captain throwbacks guide to downgrade your hboot to an earlier version and achieve s-off. With s-on unlocked you can do (almost) anything you can do with s-off except you won't be able to flash PC36IMG.zip files, which include recoveries, radio updates, splashscreens, and RUU files.
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Hey -EViL-KoNCEPTz-
You got me kinda confused now. I thought the new CWM got the problems fixed with clearing the cache? If not, then is the Amon RA safe to use, it hasn't been updated in for ever. If you still recommend Amon RA, how do I change to that?
Also, I still have s-on.
Mine says:
*** UNLOCKED***
Supersonic EVT3 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-2.18.0001
How do I get it to S-OFF or do I need to?
I've been flashing back and forth to different Roms for a few days now. I'm still trying to find the one I like where everything works.
I'm in the same boat as custm2007 except it's on my friends phone. What would be the best way to get s-off after rooting it or do I even need to? I'll be doing everything for him so he won't be flashing much at all.
Do this
http://themikmik.com/showthread.php...-18-HBOOT-with-HTCDev-com-No-More-Watermark!-
To actually answer the question... No you do not need to be s-off to flash rom's. Once unlocked you can flash a recovery through fastboot and flash rom's to your hearts content. This is currently how my phone is, and I have no complaints. Please see my blog for a tutorial for flashing recovery and su binaries.
imheroldtech.blogspot.com
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http://theunlockr.com/2011/08/02/ho...android-phone-using-the-revolutionary-method/
This was how i did it way back when. It was the easiest method for me.