Hey, I just want to clear something up so people dont think I mispoke before. I know I said "I think the new evo has a 4.5" screen". I was careful in my wording as I wasnt sure but I thought I was. The only thing I could base it on was a side by side comparison. I didnt have a tape measure in my pocket. But alas, now you will understand.
The new evo has a 16:9(5.33:3) aspect ratio. The Epic Touch is basically 5:3. The epic's screen is 4.52" and the evo is 4.7". I thought it was smaller. Here is why.
The width of the epic screen(when using some trig) is 2.32" and the height is 3.87". The new Evo is 2.3" by 4.09". So, the width was almost exactly the same and is was .22" longer. It is hard to tell especially when the phone appears smaller and it really is thin.
Now, you want some stats that you wont find anywhere else yet....
We all now know that the Evo has a 720(x1280)dpi screen. The Epic is 800x480. So for every inch there are 206 pixels lined up side by side on the Epic. The Evo on the other hand has 313. That is a huge and I mean a really huge difference. The iphone 4s has 329ppi but as we all know it is on a 3.5 inch midget screen.
At this level you would need a magnifing glass to see the pixels. I cannot speak for contrast. But this new screen is pretty great. It also blows the Nexus Galaxy out of the water.
Now for the other features. Specifically the processor, this processor is a whole generation past what we are on now. You can readily access the internet and see this. It outperforms all the quadcores available in the US as of now handily. It is about 2 times as fast as the Nexus Galaxy and our beloved SGS2. The only thing it might have a hiccup on is its comparison to the GPU on the iphone but not by much.
Now, I can not speak for build quality or styling. I just want to give some facts. Maybe even give you guys something to discuss. The same goes for the OS. That is where you guys come in.
I hope you all can appreciate the math that went into this. So, in short the screen is 50% clearer and the phone has the capability of being at least 50% faster. Makes you wonder what Samsung has up its sleeve.
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That just makes me want the phone more, hopefully unrevoked will handle the bootloader for us.
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That just makes me want the phone more, hopefully unrevoked will handle the bootloader for us.
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HTC will eventually allow us to unlock it
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I have but one issue with the phone, that being the non accessible battery. I have yet to have an android phone that I didn't need to pull the battery on once in a while when the phone locks up or starts acting weird.
How would one handle this with a battery that it not removable?
I am especially drawn to the sound quality of the earpiece if it's as good as I've heard, mainly because I wear hearing aids and every bit of additional clarity helps.
Lastly, the camera sound great but that remains to be proven in reality.
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I have but one issue with the phone, that being the non accessible battery. I have yet to have an android phone that I didn't need to pull the battery on once in a while when the phone locks up or starts acting weird.
How would one handle this with a battery that it not removable?
I am especially drawn to the sound quality of the earpiece if it's as good as I've heard, mainly because I wear hearing aids and every bit of additional clarity helps.
Lastly, the camera sound great but that remains to be proven in reality.
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Yea HTC past with cameras leaves much to be desired. We'll have to see.
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HTC will eventually allow us to unlock it
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I know they've already rooted the HTC One X.... This happened like a week ago, I think before the phone actually hit market: I don't know if it was s-on or s-off, but root access is already there.
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http://goo.gl/lMndD
the main thing i hope for is the firmware is going to be the same between all the us variants as far as asop goes. same drivers that sort of stuff.
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I have but one issue with the phone, that being the non accessible battery. I have yet to have an android phone that I didn't need to pull the battery on once in a while when the phone locks up or starts acting weird.
How would one handle this with a battery that it not removable?
I am especially drawn to the sound quality of the earpiece if it's as good as I've heard, mainly because I wear hearing aids and every bit of additional clarity helps.
Lastly, the camera sound great but that remains to be proven in reality.
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There must be a reset button of some sort, or a combo of hardware keys to reset. A lot of electronic devices have a recessed button that you have to press and hold for so many seconds with a paperclip to do a hard reset. I cant imagine htc would overlook this. My wife has an Evo shift (stock) and we have to pull the battery on that thing at least once a month
Pardon my ignorance here but if the screen is bigger and more pixels and a more powerful CPU and LTE then is the extra 200 compared to the 1800 battery we have in our phone going to be enough to make it last all day? I have to make a good decision when my NS4G line upgrade hits in late June and my head is already spinning with the GNex, new Evo and hopefully true specs on the S3
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Pardon my ignorance here but if the screen is bigger and more pixels and a more powerful CPU and LTE then is the extra 200 compared to the 1800 battery we have in our phone going to be enough to make it last all day? I have to make a good decision when my NS4G line upgrade hits in late June and my head is already spinning with the GNex, new Evo and hopefully true specs on the S3
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Its an HTC so better bring a charger with.
Some good info on the dpi category of the screen. having a desner screen does make things look better.
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Its an HTC so better bring a charger with.
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+1 to this. Sense is a battery hog.
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You should be able to hold the power down for 10 seconds to reboot.
Wait till aamikam gets his hand on it. He optimizes the **** out of Sense so battery life and performance are amazing. I was able to get over 20 hours of battery regularly on his ROMs with moderate usage on my Evo Shift.
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I think the point is you shouldn't have to optimize your software to get a day of use out of a phone. 10 years ago my phone lasted twice as long as it does now. The new kindles last like 2 months. But, on my smartphone i can't play a game for more than 30 minutes without having a charger close. I would take a phone twice as thick as this one if the battery would last longer.
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Eh on the evo 3d I was easily able to make it through a day. Pretty much the same as on my Epic touch.
Twice as long? Hardly, I made it 5 days on one charge.
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I think the point is you shouldn't have to optimize your software to get a day of use out of a phone. 10 years ago my phone lasted twice as long as it does now. The new kindles last like 2 months. But, on my smartphone i can't play a game for more than 30 minutes without having a charger close. I would take a phone twice as thick as this one if the battery would last longer.
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Smart phones do so much more than the old phones did, which leads to a shorter battery life. Higher resolutions, higher levels of brightness, more powerful components, more advanced radios and features, etc.
Your phone 10 years ago is nothing compared to your phone now.
And comparing the new Kindles battery life to a phone is a faulty comparison, as the Kindles that get battery life of that magnitude use E-Ink instead of full on LCDs/AMOLEDs/etc.
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i kmow that. I also know they make batteries twice as large as the one in the phone. It would be nice if it came from the company that way so you didnt have to add a beer belly to the back of the phone.
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I think the point is you shouldn't have to optimize your software to get a day of use out of a phone. 10 years ago my phone lasted twice as long as it does now. The new kindles last like 2 months. But, on my smartphone i can't play a game for more than 30 minutes without having a charger close. I would take a phone twice as thick as this one if the battery would last longer.
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I wasn't trying to disparage anything you or anyone was saying. I certainly hope manufacturers make a focus on better batteries and battery life, but in the mean time developers have managed to squeeze every drop of juice out of what we've been dealt.
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All good points. Don't forget the kindle fire does not have a radio and I believe it is wifi only. We could get way more life out of our batteries if we disabled the phone and turned 3g off too. I could live with a non removable battery if it was a giant one like the RAZR Maxx has in it. That phone is heavy but still pretty thin. I think HTC did their homework designing this phone and hopefully Sense 4.0 won't be a battery hawg like the older versions.
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i kmow that. I also know they make batteries twice as large as the one in the phone. It would be nice if it came from the company that way so you didnt have to add a beer belly to the back of the phone.
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It would be great if they would add the battery to the back cover.. make it all in one, it would give it Much more room for more battery or they should just take the overall design off the slim phone, add just say 10 milomiters, still incredibly thin. and have a 3x size battery
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Hi people..
I am new in this Forum.
And it is my first message.
I can say Xda Devolopers is very nice Forum.
And now my first message and topic....
ARE YOU HAPPY WITH YOUR DESIRE HD PHONE?
IF YES, WHY?
IF NOT, WHY?
Regards From Germany..
Are you satisfy with the Desire HD
Hi guys
Alot of people has the Desire HD.
And alot of people complaining from the battery performance and the proximity issue
And also alot of people satisfied from the battery performance and no problem from the proximity sensor
So are you satisfy with The DHD or you are not happy with the DHD
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I'm more than happy with this phone. I'm not getting very good battery life, and can't last a day, but I'm not too concerned because I'm sure tweaks will be found to increase battery life and a bigger battery will probably be available at some stage.
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Ditto love the screen with brightness wacked up lol
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Basil3 said:
I'm more than happy with this phone. I'm not getting very good battery life, and can't last a day, but I'm not too concerned because I'm sure tweaks will be found to increase battery life and a bigger battery will probably be available at some stage.
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i would like to see how desire hd will get bigger battery life if it goes inside the phone hardware unlike the HD2 with its own cover.
Battery life is not a problem nowadays with any device. Just get a couple of $5 batteries from hongkong (eBay) with a charger. Keep a full charged battery in your pocket and you will see that you don't give a d*mn about how fast or slow the device is draining the battery.
YES!! Got everything I need!
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Yea I am the only thing I am not so happy with is the sound other wise I am happy
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I still can't make up my mind on my DHD, afew things bother me about it, the battery life, the sound, and the weight of it. Im thinking about changing it for a iPhone 4 as I've had my heart set on one for awhile now.
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i would like to see how desire hd will get bigger battery life if it goes inside the phone hardware unlike the HD2 with its own cover.
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Totally agree, the desire HD already weighs a ton...lol we don't need any more weight added! :0s
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The battery seem to be very good I've charged it once like in two days and been using it all the time. Weight well I just think it show quality lol and noo don't get a iPhone you will be one in a million with the same phone. Lol
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I've always wanted a jailbroken iPhone for sum reason. Maybe I should just stick with the dhd for now and just wait for the next iPhone to come out next July, and see wot that's like. Hmmmm
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Battery is better then I expected but dies fast under heavy load. the text input can be laggy and difficult due to the extremely sensitive screen, just need to be near it for it to sense an input! With there being so little boarder round edge of the phone it often thinks I'm trying to do something else when I'm just trying to hold it in my big hands :S annoying when trying to type!!!!!!
The camera is a massive step up from my TP2. Haven't tried video in daylight yet, got the DHD and went straight to a wedding.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=VrwYg3yHhto
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Battery is better then I expected but dies fast under heavy load. the text input can be laggy and difficult due to the extremely sensitive screen, just need to be near it for it to sense an input! With there being so little boarder round edge of the phone it often thinks I'm trying to do something else when I'm just trying to hold it in my big hands :S annoying when trying to type!!!!!!
The camera is a massive step up from my TP2. Haven't tried video in daylight yet, got the DHD and went straight to a wedding.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=VrwYg3yHhto
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Im totally the other way, typing is a joy, no lag at all, never touched something I didn't want to while holding it.
The camera and video are almost unusable indoors, going from light to dark, very bad, not to bad outside but still this is the biggest problem with this phone, Im hoping this can be sorted out.
All in all very pleased with it but Ill be upgrading to HTC next phone next year probably....if its any good haha
Again no one mentions the camera and video going from light to dark, very bad, I thought this would be the number 1 complaint.
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Again no one mentions the camera and video going from light to dark, very bad, I thought this would be the number 1 complaint.
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I guess it depends what you want to use it for. I have a digital slr for photos, am happy with something that takes adequate spur of the moment pics.
I've never understood taking videos, just not my thing, even dating back to when camcorders first came out. I recently had to sit thru a video of a friends 40th. They were sitting there laughing away and I was thinking to myself 'i was there, I know all this already!'.
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I've always wanted a jailbroken iPhone for sum reason. Maybe I should just stick with the dhd for now and just wait for the next iPhone to come out next July, and see wot that's like. Hmmmm
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Having just moved from a jailbroken iPhone, if you want to customise your phone in anyway I would highly discourage anyone from the iPhone. The iPhone is a great piece of kit as long as you use it the way apple intended and no other.
Android and HTC are so much more flexible and cusomisable
Hi I've had my DHD for about 4 days and I'm happy. The battery doesn't last more than a day but I'm playing around more than I normally would so sort of expecting it.
The screen is really good and as far as pictures and videos go, they are as good as I would expect from camera phone. To expect more would be silly I feel, like one of the other posts said there are dedicated cameras if you want really good pictures.
The software could maybe do with some tweaks but I'm sure with updates they will come.
Cheers muzzy
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I haven't this phone..
What's Problem also with Sound?
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Battery life is on a par with my previous 3 devices!! Why are people going on about this. Give the phone at least a week for a few recharges to condition the battery and you will get a day's use out of it under normal use. I keep the charger by my bed and it's all set to go the next day.
My only gripe is the external speaker. Otherwise very happy
Do you wish you had 4G? Do you like the size? Anyone still debating between the Incredible 2 and the Thunderbolt?
My dad has the thunderbolt and I have the incredible 2. I dont think 4g is that big of a deal, though I am usually in range of wifi. The thunderbolt is borderline too big, the incredible 2 is the perfect size and naturally we both would like better battery life. I think I'll buy an extended battery for my Incredible 2 even though I rooted and am running CM7.
Yeah I currently have the Thunderbolt but am looking to swap to an Incredible when I can, it doesn't fit in my hands the greatest so I think the Incredible is the ticket.
Best android phone I have touched. I wouldn't even think about getting 4g instead of this beast.
Love it. Wifi at home and work. Not much of a need for LTE. Perfect size.
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Love it. Wifi at home and work. Not much of a need for LTE. Perfect size.
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Just trying to make me jealous eh? If that's the case well played sir! Hopefully I can find someone on Swappa who wants to trade.
My honest opinion:
I wish I had 4G, but I'll take slower data speeds over terrible battery life. Disabling 4G on a Tbolt really just makes it a bloated Inc2, so I am happy with my Inc2.
If what you are really wanting to ask is if I regret the purchase, then my answer is no.
I have both a Thunderbolt and an Incredible 2, and to be perfectly honest, I can't choose between them. I've burnt through 3 LTE SIMs in just a few weeks swapping back and forth. The Thunderbolt is almost the exact phone I've wanted to come to VZW for months: The Desire HD. However, there's something about the Incredible 2 that makes me adore is so much. It's more pocketable, the battery life is head and shoulders above that of the Thunderbolt(If I'm going to be out all day with the T-Bolt, I bring my spare battery), and everything just seems smoother to me. It rekindles everything I loved about the original Incredible, but does it even better. It all comes down to whether or not you live in a 4G area. I will undoubtedly be using the Thunderbolt every day once LTE goes live here and the Incredible 2 will be cast away into a drawer somewhere until I travel out of the country and need a stellar global phone, sadly. If you don't live in a 4G area or 4G really doesn't matter to you, the Incredible 2 is hands down the best bet. It's an amazing little phone that does almost everything right. I definitely don't regret picking one up.
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I have both a Thunderbolt and an Incredible 2, and to be perfectly honest, I can't choose between them. I've burnt through 3 LTE SIMs in just a few weeks swapping back and forth. The Thunderbolt is almost the exact phone I've wanted to come to VZW for months: The Desire HD. However, there's something about the Incredible 2 that makes me adore is so much. It's more pocketable, the battery life is head and shoulders above that of the Thunderbolt(If I'm going to be out all day with the T-Bolt, I bring my spare battery), and everything just seems smoother to me. It rekindles everything I loved about the original Incredible, but does it even better. It all comes down to whether or not you live in a 4G area. I will undoubtedly be using the Thunderbolt every day once LTE goes live here and the Incredible 2 will be cast away into a drawer somewhere until I travel out of the country and need a stellar global phone, sadly. If you don't live in a 4G area or 4G really doesn't matter to you, the Incredible 2 is hands down the best bet. It's an amazing little phone that does almost everything right. I definitely don't regret picking one up.
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Ha ha, thanks a heap for that mouth watering tease. I'll be picking one up as soon as I can find someone who will be willing to part with theirs for my Thunderbolt ha ha.
oddly enough, I still miss my old HD2. I dropped that thing so many times and even got pissed while I was driving and threw it. it bounced off the dash and severly cracked/damaged my windshield and the phone was still just fine. one day though I accidentally spilled a few drops of water on it and game over. r.i.p.
as for this damn Incredible 2.... I originally had a Thunderbolt but because of how terrible the battery was(even with extended) I took it back and got this. mind you I did want to get the Droid Charge instead(because they were supposed to be out at the same time) but since it was delayed and my 30 days was, nearly up, I settled for this.
I miss thr bigger screen on the Thunderbolt and the faster downloads.
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oddly enough, I still miss my old HD2. I dropped that thing so many times and even got pissed while I was driving and threw it. it bounced off the dash and severly cracked/damaged my windshield and the phone was still just fine. one day though I accidentally spilled a few drops of water on it and game over. r.i.p.
as for this damn Incredible 2.... I originally had a Thunderbolt but because of how terrible the battery was(even with extended) I took it back and got this. mind you I did want to get the Droid Charge instead(because they were supposed to be out at the same time) but since it was delayed and my 30 days was, nearly up, I settled for this.
I miss thr bigger screen on the Thunderbolt and the faster downloads.
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With the new radio the battery life has improved quite a bit, not to mention CM7 battery life is pretty damn good too, or one of Chingy51o's sense based roms. Mine gets me through a whole day, I never had problems with battery life. Just want the smaller size I have girl hands sadly lol.
in italy we don't have 4g (maybe next year) and for me the dinc2 is the best phone i can buy nowaday....
fast, stable, great display, right size, right feeling in my hand.....
now , after s-off and great roms coming out it will be the best choise for me ... ;-D
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I love the incredible 2. The extra RAM is ignored by the reviewers for some reason but it really helps. The battery puts it over the thunderbolt in my opinion.
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Love mine. 4G isn't a big deal for me, and I was never really impressed with any of the 4G phones that were out at the time I bought my Inc2.
I've had the thunderbolt since it was released in march and ultimately the battery life did it in. Great phone no doubt and I loved traveling to spots with 4g coverage and using it to tether (when it was free) but since my area of northern Los Angeles is 4g free I just don't want to deal with the battery issues when I can't utilize the battery draining network. I'm literally ten miles from the edge of 4g so I doubt they will expand up just a little bit anytime soon so that was it for the bolt.
I had the original incredible and outside of the original Droid it was my favorite Android phone. So when I decided to dump the thunderbolt I gave the Droid 3 a shot first. Wasn't a fan. Way too brick like in the pocket and I am not a fan of how the phone feels. So I returned it and went Inc2 and I couldn't be happier. Essentially the same as the thunderbolt from a performance standpoint (in 3g mode) in a smaller lighter and battery sipping 3g package. So no complaints at all and I will stick with this until I actually get 4g in my area.
I had a Charge, since I switched from T-Mobile solely for LTE. However, after about a month of it pissing battery, consistently failing to get me through a work day let alone anything afterwards, and after a couple of replacement units (hoping to find the good battery life I had heard so many people claim), and after trying to patch up all the problems in the phone, I finally had enough and traded down to the Inc2. Turns out it's an amazing phone. I like it so much I left it stock, and even took the root-blocking Gingerbread OTA. The GPS is unbelievably strong, the battery can go for days, Sense is really feature-rich and polished. On top of all of that, the hardware feels sturdy, exudes class, and disappears into your pocket. This phone is amazing.
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With the new radio the battery life has improved quite a bit, not to mention CM7 battery life is pretty damn good too, or one of Chingy51o's sense based roms. Mine gets me through a whole day, I never had problems with battery life. Just want the smaller size I have girl hands sadly lol.
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how does it get you through a whole day? just browsing the web for about an hour & a half(with brightness turned all the way down) kills about 30% of the battery.. that and if i watch a movie on it it kills about 40%.
so i take it you aren't constantly using the phone though?
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There isn't a phone out there with any carrier that I would trade my Dinc2 for right now, except maybe the EVO 4G. I love the EVO a bunch too but the Dinc2 is just a very solid handset in every category and now that we have root the sky is the limit.
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There isn't a phone out there with any carrier that I would trade my Dinc2 for right now, except maybe the EVO 4G. I love the EVO a bunch too but the Dinc2 is just a very solid handset in every category and now that we have root the sky is the limit.
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+1 good sir!
1. Battery life sucks. I had to bring a charger to work. Battery life sucks so bad that I switched back to my Thunderbolt, a phone not known for its great battery life either, but at least I'm no longer a slave monitoring my battery use. I can stream music and browse or game at the same time without needing a charger close at hand.
2. The gnex screen is a disappointment, especially at low back light levels. And I thought that SAMOLED pentile matrix screens were supposed to be energy efficient compared to normal LCD displays, but I've never seen such a battery life sucker in a phone. Inverted apps and black backgrounds don't help.
3. CDMA/LTE Radio. Not horrible, and getting better. Pretty much all if my LTE problems were network related. CDMA has been flakier for me but the 4.04 update seemed much better for the short time I used it. All CDMA/LTE combo phones suck battery life.
4. Apps/Market/ICS. So many of the games I've purchased are incompatible with the gnex its laughable. I must have $50 of games that I can't play on my gnex.
5. No good car and home docks.
This criticism post isn't meant to rile up gnex fanboys. My intention is to give valid criticism for people doing research before buying a new phone.
The VZW Nexus is a high maintenance phone, which needs users to constantly monitor battery use, make compromises on how they use their phone, and need chargers close at hand, but there are no good charging docks. Many games are incompatible with the gnex too.
So due to the hassles of using a VZW Nexus, I've gone back to my Thunderbolt as my every day phone, and my gnex has been relegated to being a mini wifi tablet that has a charger nearby.
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You lost me when you said you went back to a Thunderbolt and were previously *****ing about battery life, LTE radios, and the like.
Logical.....not.
Battery life is increased with the 4.0.4 patch.
Games not working isn't the fault of the GNex, its up to the game dev to update their game to make it work in Ice Cream Sandwich.
Poor radio...that's subjective. I get great reception in my town. Its not necessarily the phones fault you get poor signal. Also, signal strength is improved in the 4.0.4 patch.
This phone may not have the most features forever, but that's the point. Nexus phones spur innovation in the other OEM's.
Sorry you're disappointed.
Funny, I came from a Thunderbolt and I thought it had decent battery. Will disagree on the fact that this Nexus is worse than that; it's been better (much better) compared to a Tbolt.
Whatever floats your boat though. One less battery thread then I guess.
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You lost me when you said you went back to a Thunderbolt and were previously *****ing about battery life, LTE radios, and the like.
Logical.....not.
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This is the same guy that got his other thread locked because he's just bashing this phone. And going back to the thunderbolt. What a joke. Leave now plz.
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1. You're doing something wrong with your battery. I'm consistently getting 1 day on the battery and still having some juice left over, and each GNex owner I know personally is getting the same results.
2. Backlight? You do know how AMOLED works right? On power efficiency, remember how you've got an HD display on the GNex? it has more pixels to push than the TBolt. It has already been proven that "pure black" is more efficient, but no one does that. Look at the power draw of the Rezound screen, it's ugly.
You're trolling, don't pretend you aren't.
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This is the same guy that got his other thread locked because he's just bashing this phone. And going back to the thunderbolt. What a joke. Leave now plz.
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yeap, thread closed then opened another one for the same thing.. stupidity has no bounds here..
Where's operation iron fist when you need it?
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What don't you understand? I'd be happy to explain it to you.
On my thunderbolt, I was able to stream the entire Super Bowl (commercials and halftime show too) over LTE with lots of battery life to spare. With my gnex, I would have had to put it on a charger or changed the battery some time in the 3rd quarter.
With my gnex I'm constantly making compromises on my phone use. Do I want to stream music or do want to browse or game? With my thunderbolt, I don't need to worry about making those compromises, I just stream music constantly, and browse and game without constantly monitoring battery usage.
With the vzw gnex, no kernel or rom yet has really helped the battery suck, but my Bolt on stock Sense sips on the battery by comparison. And as I mentioned in my OP, the Thunderbolt isn't known for good battery life, only in a head to head comparison with the gnex does the Bolt seem to have efficient battery use.
Do you still have a Thunderbolt? Go back to using that for a week. You'll be amazed at how much more use you'll get out of it compared to the gnex.
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What don't you understand? I'd be happy to explain it to you.
On my thunderbolt, I was able to stream the entire Super Bowl (commercials and halftime show too) over LTE with lots of battery life to spare. With my gnex, I would have had to put it on a charger or changed the battery some time in the 3rd quarter.
With my gnex I'm constantly making compromises on my phone use. Do I want to stream music or do want to browse or game? With my thunderbolt, I don't need to worry about making those compromises, I just stream music constantly, and browse and game without constantly monitoring battery usage.
With the vzw gnex, no kernel or rom yet has really helped the battery suck, but my Bolt on stock Sense sips on the battery by comparison. And as I mentioned in my OP, the Thunderbolt isn't known for good battery life, only in a head to head comparison with the gnex does the Bolt seem to have efficient battery use.
Do you still have a Thunderbolt? Go back to using that for a week. You'll be amazed at how much more use you'll get out of it compared to the gnex.
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Nobody cares what phone you use or what phone you think is better. We all know you're a troll.
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spencer88 said:
This is the same guy that got his other thread locked because he's just bashing this phone. And going back to the thunderbolt. What a joke. Leave now plz.
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LOL! Its my valid criticism of the phone after using it for over a month and a half.
And I'm still using it as a mini wifi tablet.
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kurttrail said:
LOL! Its my valid criticism of the phone after using it for over a month and a half.
And I'm still using it as a mini wifi tablet.
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It's your "valid criticism" that no one cares about. Go troll the thunderbolt forums, leave the adults alone.
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Azeolus said:
1. You're doing something wrong with your battery. I'm consistently getting 1 day on the battery and still having some juice left over, and each GNex owner I know personally is getting the same results.
2. Backlight? You do know how AMOLED works right? On power efficiency, remember how you've got an HD display on the GNex? it has more pixels to push than the TBolt. It has already been proven that "pure black" is more efficient, but no one does that. Look at the power draw of the Rezound screen, it's ugly.
You're trolling, don't pretend you aren't.
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1. When I use my phone the most is over lte. I doubt you'll get that battery life the way I use my phone. I've spent the last month and a half compromising my use to the gnex's battery suck, in comparison to my phone use with my Bolt. I'm sick and tired of being a slave to monitoring battery use.
2. I've installed every inverted app that I can find. Inverted the browser, and have a pure black background. The energy savings is no more than mere minutes.
And I'm not trolling. I'm sharing my valid criticism of my gnex in comparison to my Bolt. Why can't a person do that without being called a troll?
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Where's operation iron fist when you need it?
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Iron fist? Can't a person post valid criticism in this forum without veiled threats of violence?
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kurttrail said:
Iron fist? Can't a person post valid criticism in this forum without veiled threats of violence?
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Violence????? Lol. Iron fist is XDA's garbage cleaning initiative. Sigh.
http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/operation-iron-fist-is-now-in-full-force/
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spencer88 said:
Nobody cares what phone you use or what phone you think is better. We all know you're a troll.
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Is name calling allowed in this forum? It certainly isn't on topic, which is my valid criticism of using a VZW Nexus for over a month and a half in comparison to my Bolt.
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I'm more interested to hear what the phone has to say about about you as an owner. And blame the game devs...
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lrs421 said:
It's your "valid criticism" that no one cares about. Go troll the thunderbolt forums, leave the adults alone.
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People researching their next phone purchase may care. And that's my intended audience.
With all the "I get great battery life" posts in this forum, a contrary opinion is needed, especially when you see the screen shots with hardly any display use.
I get great battery use too, in airplane mode and on standby, but if I want to use the display and 4g, the battery sucks much much faster than the same use on my Bolt. That's a fact, Jack!
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Fahrenheit said:
Battery life is increased with the 4.0.4 patch.
Games not working isn't the fault of the GNex, its up to the game dev to update their game to make it work in Ice Cream Sandwich.
Poor radio...that's subjective. I get great reception in my town. Its not necessarily the phones fault you get poor signal. Also, signal strength is improved in the 4.0.4 patch.
This phone may not have the most features forever, but that's the point. Nexus phones spur innovation in the other OEM's.
Sorry you're disappointed.
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I'm using the 4.04 leak now. CDMA Radio seems more stable. I get great LTE signal where I use my phone the most, so constantly switching radios hasn't been a problem, nor a major battery drain for me.
My problem was with CDMA flakiness when driving, but 4.04 seems to have stabilized that, which I did mention in my OP.
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bowsersoulstar said:
Funny, I came from a Thunderbolt and I thought it had decent battery. Will disagree on the fact that this Nexus is worse than that; it's been better (much better) compared to a Tbolt.
Whatever floats your boat though. One less battery thread then I guess.
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How is the VZW Nexus better than your Bolt? Please give an example on how the gnex battery usage is " much better," because I can stream music constantly while browsing or gaming for hours more on my Bolt than I can on my gnex.
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To begin, I want to say that I am not an Apple Fanboy or a mindless lemming for anything with an Apple logo. I've had many droid phones in the past. I just wanted to give my personal opinion between both phones and explain my personal reasons for dropping my GN and going back to my iPhone 4s.
I know that some people don't use the camera on their phone, but I have a 6 year old daughter. I use my camera quite a bit so it's important too me. I am not hung up on specs so the 5 mp camera didn't scare me. In the end it's all about what the pics look like. In perfect lighting situations the camera is pretty good. But we all know that most pictures aren't shot in perfect lighting conditions. For one week every time I took a pic with my GN I also shot one with my iPhone. Overall the iPhone pics were better. They were sharper, colors were more accurate and overall looked closer to what I was shooting. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying the GN is as horrible as most posts say, I'm just saying for my personal use it's quite a bit below the iPhone's camera for the situations I am in and use my camera for. Don't tell me that it's just a camera phone and I shouldn't be that picky. You can't deny that they skimped on the camera. It's not nearly as good as most current phones. I would have been happy with the same camera from the Galaxy SII, but it's not even that good.
Battery use is another reason. I realize that it's a bigger screen, faster processor etc. so it's not going to be in the same ballpark as my iPhone. However I had 4g turned off and brightness turned down to 40% and it was still horrendous. Now before you jump on my, i did root my phone and had a rom/kernel installed. No difference! I would lose 10% of my battery for every 10 minutes of on-screen time. I was averaging 1.5 hours of on-screen time before my battery died. This is something I monitored very closely.
Also, for full disclosure, my iPhone is jailbroken so I have several widgets that refresh every 15 minutes going and the on-screen time is well over 10 hours!
The screen is nice, and while it's probably the best of the droid phones, it's not better than the iPhone's. Now you can say that it's personal preference so here's what I did. I took a pic with my iPhone and sent it to my GN. I opened the pic on both phones and set them side by side. The iPhone was sharper and more realistic in each case. I also took a pic with my GN and then sent it to my iPhone for a comparison. Same result.
I really wish that those factors weren't a dealbreaker for me because otherwise it is an awesome phone! The speaker was loud, signal was strong, didn't have any rebooting issues - all of which are being reported all over the forums. It's easily the best droid phone but just not on the same level as my iPhone. Like I said my iPhone is jailbroken so I'm able to pretty much do anything that you can with the GN!
And don't tell me that the iPhone sucks and needs to be jailbroken because the same argument can be made for the GN. The reason people root and install custom rom's/kernels is because they want a different experience/performance that what they get out of the box.
Again, this post was to give an honest user experience of why I am going back to my iPhone based on how I use my phone.
Camera quality improved quite a bit in 4.0.4. Did you use this update?
Oh noooo please dont go please dont leave us!!!
I have not updated to 4.0.4. I checked and wasn't able to update to it. The rom I was using was 4.0.4 based.
Can I update somehow even if I haven't gotten the message yet?
These threads should be auto-deleted.
That's odd I have galaxy nexus lte with the 2100 battery and honestly I have no complaints about battery life I use my GPS twice a day for about an hour and half both ways and many emails and phone calls also including all the junk I look up on the internet and I still go to bed with atleast 20 percent left... all stock. The camera I can agree on wtf were they thinking. To hell with shutter speed I want quality not quantity
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If you are on a custom ROM, you probably won't get the message and even if you do, you wouldn't be able to update OTA unless you reverted to stock.
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Can I update somehow even if I haven't gotten the message yet?
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Leads me to believe your issues are caused by user error.
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mpetruzz said:
I would lose 10% of my battery for every 10 minutes of on-screen time.
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Without starting a pointless flame war, this is not typical of general nexus users. You have something draining your battery. Honestly, don't let this put you off. Do some digging and see what is killing your battery and then decide. Something is amiss.
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I've looked at all running apps etc. Nothing out of the ordinary that would cause the battery to drain that quick. And this was with 4g off and on wifi.
wtm1417 - congrats! I knew I'd get some a$$holes after posting this and you sir were the first!!
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I would lose 10% of my battery for every 10 minutes of on-screen time. I was averaging 1.5 hours of on-screen time before my battery died. This is something I monitored very closely.
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While I concur that the camera is not as good as the iPhone’s—Google and Samsung failed here—I don’t know how you did this. With stock 4.0.4 I get 3.5-4 hours of screen time consistently and plenty of battery to spare, and I don’t do anything special to get it. That said, you’d have to pay me, and pay me well, to force me to use an iPhone daily.
Wtf did I just read.. retina is better than super amoled HD ? So you're telling me you can see the 20 pixels ? The experience on the nexus is much better.. iPhone is for dumb people, no offense, not to say that iPhone looks way too familiar now, and its build quality is ****, the nexus is better in everything except camera where the iPhone slightly edges the nexus
You should get an award for being the blindest person alive
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I would agree with you on the camera bit. The camera on my old iPhone 4 was far superior than my Galaxy Nexus. With the GN you really need a steady hand to get a proper shot. I haven't got the 404 update yet so I'm hoping that this will be fixed.
Well sounds like you don't have enough time to tailor Android to your liking, ****ty deal. IPhone will be perfect for you then.
Back to flash, emulators, and 3d maps for the rest of us
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mpetruzz said:
I've looked at all running apps etc. Nothing out of the ordinary that would cause the battery to drain that quick. And this was with 4g off and on wifi.
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I manage to get 3 hours at least on a normal day, even with wifi only half of that. Get betterbatterystats from here on xda and see what (if anything) is keeping your phone awake. Seriously, something is not right. Maybe something as simple as a ROM/Kernel combo. Try a few different ones and see how you fare.
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So you are going back to a camera ?
Please make a better argument... I can't even take you seriously.
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I've had many droid phones in the past.
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All respect is lost.
Would you mind posting up a couple of the shots to see the comparison between the 2 phones??
Any rom/kernel suggestions? I'm open to trying something that might help me.
BTW, for all the people calling me dumb, stupid and saying I need to go to an iPhone, you're just proving your fanboys! Instead of helping me or offering suggestions it's easier just to criticize.
Thank you to the posts from members who are actually trying to help!
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I've looked at all running apps etc. Nothing out of the ordinary that would cause the battery to drain that quick. And this was with 4g off and on wifi.
wtm1417 - congrats! I knew I'd get some a$$holes after posting this and you sir were the first!!
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So you post an asshole comment right back, a lot of times people see problems because of user error.
Go back to your Apple world, enjoy the limitations and enjoy not being able to customize to it's full extent. You can say that you can do anything with your iPhone4S but at the end of the day that is just not true. Jailbroken or not.
Again, go, have fun, no skin off any of our backs and now we have one less hostile person to worry about.
Ok so i have a DNA and i have a Gnex im having trouble deciding which i should keep for the long run. Obviously specs are on the DNA's side, but customizability is with the Gnex. My main question is battery and signal, i havent had my gnex long enough to see how these perform with the Dna so i was hoping you could help. My Gnex is rooted running Muzzy's latest 4.3 build im using Tinykernal also i am using the hyperion 3800 mah extended battery. Will this combination last as long as my dna throughout the day if not longer, and will the phone be able to hold on to somewhat of the same signal that my dna has? Thanks.
i'd hold on to the Dna cause it has better hardware than the gnex
and i'm sure the DNA has decent development no?
In terms of updates Gnexus wins all the way to KLP. Knowing HTC practice, you may not even get KLP
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The DNA doesn't have support like the gnex obviously, but the DNA does have that pesky Sim card error problem that is very annoying.
comments on battery life and signal strength between the 2? Like I said I use the extended battery I know the stock nexus battery can't last all day to save its life.
Friend of mine has the DNA and I've never heard him complain about battery, and he's outlasted me before too.
Development? I think they have some decent stuff going on, not sure.
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Yea development's cool
they got AOKP, CM10.2 , Carbon , uXYLON and a handful of other roms as well
Foster6565 said:
The DNA doesn't have support like the gnex obviously, but the DNA does have that pesky Sim card error problem that is very annoying.
comments on battery life and signal strength between the 2? Like I said I use the extended battery I know the stock nexus battery can't last all day to save its life.
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Thats if you live and breathe your phone. I hardly ( and this is the MAJORITY of the users) ever go past 1:30 display time. To anyone who goes over this "average" time has serious issues and should stop to think if most of the interaction is between a computer or actual people. If you view movies and things like that, thats another story but equally annoying. Its a small screen, I can't possibly see myself enjoying a movie in a 4.65 inch screen as a lot of the details are lost but thats just me.
On topic: The GN is a great phone but only due to the work the developers around here. You will receive biased opinions here and thats mainly because many if not most of us have not had a first hand experience with the DNA. So with that said, go with the GN lol
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Ok so i have a DNA and i have a Gnex im having trouble deciding which i should keep for the long run. Obviously specs are on the DNA's side, but customizability is with the Gnex. My main question is battery and signal, i havent had my gnex long enough to see how these perform with the Dna so i was hoping you could help. My Gnex is rooted running Muzzy's latest 4.3 build im using Tinykernal also i am using the hyperion 3800 mah extended battery. Will this combination last as long as my dna throughout the day if not longer, and will the phone be able to hold on to somewhat of the same signal that my dna has? Thanks.
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The DNA runs circles around our phones spec wise, the gnex is getting old, given the gnex will last a long time even after google drops support for it, but your DNA will probably be a device you'll want to use more, bigger screen, better specs, and the development is just fine there.
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Thats if you live and breathe your phone. I hardly ( and this is the MAJORITY of the users) ever go past 1:30 display time. To anyone who goes over this "average" time has serious issues and should stop to think if most of the interaction is between a computer or actual people. If you view movies and things like that, thats another story but equally annoying. Its a small screen, I can't possibly see myself enjoying a movie in a 4.65 inch screen as a lot of the details are lost but thats just me.
On topic: The GN is a great phone but only due to the work the developers around here. You will receive biased opinions here and thats mainly because many if not most of us have not had a first hand experience with the DNA. So with that said, go with the GN lol
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Serious issues for using your phone for more than 1:30 a day? Browsing social networks and texting casually throughout the day will easily go past 1:30 screen on time.
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msavic6 said:
Serious issues for using your phone for more than 1:30 a day? Browsing social networks and texting casually throughout the day will easily go past 1:30 screen on time.
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+1
4hrs here
Seraz007 said:
+1
4hrs here
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I'd be lucky to get that much screen on time lmao
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Garridon said:
I'd be lucky to get that much screen on time lmao
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hehe
well that was on 4.3
on 4.2 i used to get about 3.5 hrs or so
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well that was on 4.3
on 4.2 i used to get about 3.5 hrs or so
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With all your same apps installed?
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The DNA gets 2-3 more bars than the Galaxy Nexus, but that doesn't mean better download/upload speeds. The RAZR M usually has the same signal strength as the GalNex, yet 10 times outta 10 the RAZR M beats the GalNex in download speeds... Though ping and upload are about the same. So if you're concerned about that, run speedtests on both in a Verizon store.
I don't like the non-removable battery and storage (if you're going to limit the storage with no SD card option, at least make it 32 GB....), and I really don't like the plug over the micro USB port. Also, 9/10 or so used DNAs on eBay have scratched screens... Not sure if that matters to you, but yours will probably fall victim, it's apparently not Gorilla Glass.
Also, I'm done with HTC, ever since they ****ed over the Thunderbolt owners with updates and releasing the kernel source, I think a lot of us have been weary. How many phones can you say have 4.3 on stock or a ROM? There's the Google Play edition phones, the Nexus line (save the One and S).... Not much else I'm sure. Most devices don't have it anyway.
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With all your same apps installed?
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yes