This upcoming Monday, Microsoft and Nokia will be having promotional events in three cities in the US to give out "Free Time Machines".
It's interesting that they would market the Lumia 900 as a time saving device. The cities in question are SF, Chicago, and NYC!
Anyone planning on going?
http://www.gowindowsgo.com/2012/04/03/free-time-machine-presented-by-windows-phone/
Not seattle....
samsabri said:
This upcoming Monday, Microsoft and Nokia will be having promotional events in three cities in the US to give out "Free Time Machines".
It's interesting that they would market the Lumia 900 as a time saving device. The cities in question are SF, Chicago, and NYC!
Anyone planning on going?
http://www.gowindowsgo.com/2012/04/03/free-time-machine-presented-by-windows-phone/
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Wow none in LA? I'd love to go if it were.
Where in Chicago?
I can't find any info.
Wow! Lumia 900 is great!
Anyone have more information about this event? Curious what I'm going to be missing out on.
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Wow! Lumia 900 is great!
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k.
Nothing else is known yet about where in the cities it will take place.
I still can't believe nothing in LA or Seattle.. but then what part of LA is really 'downtown'.
I almost wanna drive up to SF or take a quick flight
I think they figure most Seattlites are already going to be more aware than average of Windows Phone. I see them on the bus around here (and not just on the ones full of MS commuters) and there are two Microsoft Stores within about 15 driving miles of eachother...
i wish i were in NYC...nice tech-events are quiet rare here...
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Wow! Lumia 900 is great!
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great signal quality
great build quality
good call quality
good speaker
7 hours real talk time, on LTE !
camera is meh LAG !
camera button is below flush - odd
display is subpar- bright but low quality
power button in a bad location
lower resolution means no hd playback or 1080p record
wont charge while turned off ? really ?
anyway, there's a full review by someone that like wp devices at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2sUYXeBdqA&list=UUR0AnNR7sViH3TWMJl5jyxw&feature=plcp
ohgood said:
camera is meh LAG !
camera button is below flush - odd
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Hmm... Very subjective, can't agree.
ohgood said:
display is subpar- bright but low quality
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Complete BS. 800x480 it's a WP7 standard, given by MS.
ohgood said:
power button in a bad location
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Probably I'll agree but should try by myself first.
ohgood said:
lower resolution means no hd playback or 1080p record
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Hmm... I wanna see person who can find the difference between 720p and 1080p on 4.3'' screen. This BS about "high res" just a marketing stuff.
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wont charge while turned off ? really ?
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Probably BS; BTW, how often you turn off your phone?
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Hmm... Very subjective, can't agree.
Complete BS. 800x480 it's a WP7 standard, given by MS.
Probably I'll agree but should try by myself first.
Hmm... I wanna see person who can find the difference between 720p and 1080p on 4.3'' screen. This BS about "high res" just a marketing stuff.
Probably BS; BTW, how often you turn off your phone?
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if 800x480 is good enough for you, great. text doesn't look so great at this low resolution.
it's not only about the 4.3" screen displaying 1080, it's about when you capture video with the phone. is the iphone's retina display just marketing stuff ? take a look.
i turn my phone off two to three times daily, sometimes much more. not disrupting other people is a nice thing. it's actually off right now. the internet told me the chance of alien encounters was very low for the month of April.
I don't know of a windows phone that ' turns off ' when charging.
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if 800x480 is good enough for you, great. text doesn't look so great at this low resolution.
it's not only about the 4.3" screen displaying 1080, it's about when you capture video with the phone. is the iphone's retina display just marketing stuff ? take a look.
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Are u some kind of iphone/droid fan-trolls? Go back under the bridge!
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Are u some kind of iphone/droid fun-trolls? Go back under the bridge!
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was that really necessary of a comment? really?
an opinion that views a phone that doesn't match yours and you post flame bait...
Really?
What opinion?! "Low resolution" - that you mean "opinion"? He-he... Yeah, allright, no external storage support - shame on you Nokia! (said fanboys), no 3D display - it's a junk! (said fanboys), no fancy colorful battery eaters-widgets - it's just a trash! (said fanboys), no USB host mode - it's not a phone! (said stupid trolls).
It's a WP7 forum, for WP7 developers and users. If "low resolution" doesn't fit your needs - go buy i-damn-phone/an-built-it-droid every half a year and be happy! What the problem?!
Nokia has created a beautiful phone that meets all Microsoft's requirements to the WP7 platform!
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What opinion?! "Low resolution" - that you mean "opinion"? He-he...
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800x480 is pretty low considering the standards of tech. But that's not Nokia's fault, it's chassis one requirements. And it is noticeable on a nice zoom into text sadly.
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Yeah, allright, no external storage support - shame on you Nokia! (said fanboys), no 3D display - it's a junk! (said fanboys), no fancy colorful battery eaters-widgets - it's just a trash! (said fanboys), no USB host mode - it's not a phone! (said stupid trolls).
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But no one said that, except you. And FYI, it seems he was just echoing in on what John Rettinger already said about the Lumia 900 as well.
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It's a WP7 forum, for WP7 developers and users. If "low resolution" doesn't fit your needs - go buy i-damn-phone/an-built-it-droid every half a year and be happy! What the problem?!
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Windows Phone 7 General
For general comments and thoughts relating to the Windows Phone 7 platform
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Doesn't really say it is specific to Windows Phone users. It's for everyone and everyone is entitled to having a view on wp7...
sensboston said:
Nokia has created a beautiful phone that meets all Microsoft's requirements to the WP7 platform!
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That too is subjective
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800x480 is pretty low considering the standards of tech. But that's not Nokia's fault, it's chassis one requirements. And it is noticeable on a nice zoom into text sadly.
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What is "pretty low", what the "standards" (RFC, ISO - show the proof link!), what the "sadly zoom"? What are you talking about???
I'm professional developer, working on the startup specializing in smart phones (video delivery). I saw (and work with) a lot of (no, A LOT OF!) different handsets, running different platforms, from the different manufacturers. But my "low resolution" Samsung Focus display is exceptionally good! I have no problem to read/zoom text, watch video etc. even on a daylight (where is iPhone, 4 example, sux at all). So, if you have a problem with WP7 resolution - buy a pair of glasses!
criticisms promote changes and improvements. developers understand this, normally.
if the device were perfect, there would be no need for improvement of any facet.
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Will the HTC phones have this UI anytime soon ?
ELSE Mobile phone user interface
VIDEO: Hands-on with the ELSE Access Linux Platform smartphone
this is what i thought wm7 was going to look like
That 'home' menu looks pretty cool, the rest of the phone, eh. What's up with those side buttons?
However, their actual 'phone' functionality niceities are interesting - e.g. call handling while in another app, or during a meeting, etc. I'd actually pay for that as an app for our phones!
Also, their multitasking handling was cool.
BTW: Probably the wrong forum
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That 'home' menu looks pretty cool, the rest of the phone, eh. What's up with those side buttons?
However, their actual 'phone' functionality niceities are interesting - e.g. call handling while in another app, or during a meeting, etc. I'd actually pay for that as an app for our phones!
Also, their multitasking handling was cool.
BTW: Probably the wrong forum
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Where should it be then ?
what category ?
Hi ilordvader,
You should go on the official site for more info: http://www.firstelse.com/
Also, it has nothing to do with Windows Phone 7 series (This UI is based on Limo).
To my mind, this thread should be moved in General forums.
Cheers.
This is actually much better than stupid iPhone-like WP7. And it even multitasks.
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And it even multitasks.
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Multitasking is not special. Every phone EXCEPT the iPhone multitasks. Windows Mobile has been doing it for a decade.
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Multitasking is not special. Every phone EXCEPT the iPhone multitasks. Windows Mobile has been doing it for a decade.
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Of course. I was trying to be sarcastic, because WP7 (just like iPhone) will not have true multitasking.
BTW,
The company which is responsible for this phone is an Israeli company called Else (foremly Emblaze). Another israeli designed cellphone is the Modu (or Modo, i'm not sure) which is intended for developing markets.
mazzarin said:
That 'home' menu looks pretty cool, the rest of the phone, eh. What's up with those side buttons?
However, their actual 'phone' functionality niceities are interesting - e.g. call handling while in another app, or during a meeting, etc. I'd actually pay for that as an app for our phones!
Also, their multitasking handling was cool.
BTW: Probably the wrong forum
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I hate tiny buttons
I love WP7 for it's big buttons.
I have said time and again, when you are mobile, you are HANDICAPPED. You cannot be looking for tiny buttons while you are walking down the street and typing an email or browsing.
So you need a phone with a large(er) size i.e HD2, and big buttons.
HD2's biggest flaw is it's array of tiny buttons on the bottom.
gorelshv said:
The company which is responsible for this phone is an Israeli company called Else (foremly Emblaze). Another israeli designed cellphone is the Modu (or Modo, i'm not sure) which is intended for developing markets.
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arent we glad hitler did not finsh the job lol
This thing has to be moved onto another forum.
Anyway, you can see that it is Linux-based, so maybe we can have it when we'll get a working Linux kernel for the HD2!
...Or on other devices (that are already running Linux just fine) like Diamond, Blackstone, Raphael etc.!
very nice ui, surprised that noone tried to replicate it for WM.
a question though.. what if you're left-handed?
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a question though.. what if you're left-handed?
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that's hiliarous i was thinkin the same thing cuz i am left handed
it would have been interesting if you talked about the hardware that's running the phone it would be interesting if we could boot that up on our devices the phone intergation is very slick i really liked the way it handled the phone call
i would like to see how it's developed in the future and if they release a version of hardware with a slide out keyboard if so i think i'd be interested in makin the switch if the development got big enough as thing here on xda have gotten
i just checked out the site really impressed with the functionality of the UI man if windows mobile 7 had been these i'd been very impressed but oh well well see what happens at MWC
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very nice ui, surprised that noone tried to replicate it for WM.
a question though.. what if you're left-handed?
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Big deal....they won't get your business.
i guess 90% of people are right handed. Why worry about the 10% LOL
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arent we glad hitler did not finsh the job lol
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Yes, we are!
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Big deal....they won't get your business.
i guess 90% of people are right handed. Why worry about the 10% LOL
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they should worry about the 10%, because they are not a very well known company and they could use all the customers they can get, i saw the ui about 1 month ago, and after that i read about it again yesterday in this thread. they would be better off selling the ui idea to a bigger OEM or MS or Apple or Google, because only then this ui will become popular.
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i just checked out the site really impressed with the functionality of the UI man if windows mobile 7 had been these i'd been very impressed but oh well well see what happens at MWC
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what happens at MWC? MWC is over..
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very nice ui, surprised that noone tried to replicate it for WM.
a question though.. what if you're left-handed?
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Upon initial device setup, you can choose either Left or Right handed operation. This can also be changed on-the-fly.
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Upon initial device setup, you can choose either Left or Right handed operation. This can also be changed on-the-fly.
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oh, cool, but i was mainly talking about the hw buttons..
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oh, cool, but i was mainly talking about the hw buttons..
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umm...you have 2 hands..or no?
use the other one.
hey there, i´m looking for a new smartphone and since i don´t want spend like 450 euro for a phone (that i don´t like for a 100% - i´m very picky....). i tried the galaxy s2 (kinda HATE the big home button, very cheap battery cover) and the sensation (lousy internal memory, very low "loud"speaker, wifi issues, and so on), again unfortunately i´m VERY picky.......
anyway, i stumbled over the win 7 phones which are at a very low price at the moment and the Optimus 7 is the one with the lowest price.
so i´m asking you if this device is good enough to spend some time with until new flagships (new android or maybe the galaxy s2 wp7) come out or does it have BIG known issues???
and could you tell me your results with the camera since i read somewhere that it isn´t THAT good....
thx!
/e: just to put some numbers in
the LG optimus 7 is available for like 160 euro and the next step ahead would be the omnia 7 for 213 euro.
specially when i see THIS video, i´m not too sure anymore, which one to pick
no matter which one u pick u will love wp7 especially with the mango beta out. the Omnia has an AMOLED screen and people swear that it's the **** so if that matters to u than I would go for that otherwise go for the optimus 7
I came from Android to WP7 and love it. If you pick one up now, the specs might not look incredible, but everything just WORKS. I've been running the Mango beta, and I can't go back to NoDo now.
I love my HD7 & WP7. There are some design changes I'd like to see, but nothing deal breaking. What'd I suggest though, is to go to your local retailer & play with it in person & make your own choice/decision. everyone has their own tastes, so it's best to play with one yourself & make up your own mind rather then follow the opinion of others. For me, the biggest thing is that WP7 is very fast & smooth. The integration is also awesome. mango will only make things better. This being said, if you are big into hacking/customizing your device, WP7 is lacking in that area. Especially after Mango because of the INTEROPSERVICES block that has broken almost all homebrew apps (registry editor/etc.)
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hey there, i´m looking for a new smartphone and since i don´t want spend like 450 euro for a phone (that i don´t like for a 100% - i´m very picky....). i tried the galaxy s2 (kinda HATE the big home button, very cheap battery cover) and the sensation (lousy internal memory, very low "loud"speaker, wifi issues, and so on), again unfortunately i´m VERY picky.......
anyway, i stumbled over the win 7 phones which are at a very low price at the moment and the Optimus 7 is the one with the lowest price.
so i´m asking you if this device is good enough to spend some time with until new flagships (new android or maybe the galaxy s2 wp7) come out or does it have BIG known issues???
and could you tell me your results with the camera since i read somewhere that it isn´t THAT good....
thx!
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the LG optimus 7 is available for like 160 euro and the next step ahead would be the omnia 7 for 213 euro.
specially when i see THIS video, i´m not too sure anymore, which one to pick
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I would not recommend WP7 alltogether because of limitations it gives.
But if you're into it, and yes WP7 can be very saisfying in many areas,
I can say - having still my LG Optimus 7 - that it's a very very good phone itself.
I would never trust LG but this phone is really robust and well designed and was a complete surprise to me.
It has hardware keys which I find very comfortable, not allowing any accidental press,
back cover is top noch metal and the whole phone looks 100 times better than on any photo, quite classy but not too much. All the hardware keys are great too. The screen is sweet, audio quality very good.
But the Camera:
In daylight it's great. You can make great photos and videos.
The whole problem is in the night & dark... Well the colours are OK but basically in those conditions pics are complete ****. Just blurry and not sharp, as well as videos. TBH not many modern phone cameras work in these conditions anyway.
doministry said:
I would not recommend WP7 alltogether because of limitations it gives.
But if you're into it, and yes WP7 can be very saisfying in many areas,
I can say - having still my LG Optimus 7 - that it's a very very good phone itself.
I would never trust LG but this phone is really robust and well designed and was a complete surprise to me.
It has hardware keys which I find very comfortable, not allowing any accidental press,
back cover is top noch metal and the whole phone looks 100 times better than on any photo, quite classy but not too much. All the hardware keys are great too. The screen is sweet, audio quality very good.
But the Camera:
In daylight it's great. You can make great photos and videos.
The whole problem is in the night & dark... Well the colours are OK but basically in those conditions pics are complete ****. Just blurry and not sharp, as well as videos. TBH not many modern phone cameras work in these conditions anyway.
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uhh yea stop spreading FUD naco he's looking for someone to help him purchase a wp7 device not for someone to deter him from purchasing a wp7!
If you're "VERY picky" then I wouldn't buy a Windows 7 phone.
Basically it's a *good* system, but it's clear from the lack of apps and the number of small niggles that it's an OS that is still maturing. I imagine Microsoft see this WP7 the same as the original Xbox; a way to get developers, phone carriers and hardware manufacturers on board, as well as iron out most technical issues, before the real battle; the launch of Windows Phone 8.
If you're the sort of person where just one little thing could ruin your enjoyment of the phone, then I'd probably recommend iOS (where everything pretty much just works as intended).
Oh and to answer your original question, yes I'm happy with my HTC Mozart, though there are a few frustrations with the system, and many apps that I miss.
extremely happy
If you find yourself only using 10-20 apps on other OS, odds are you will be perfectly happy with wp7. I think I have a total of 8 third party apps right now, I just don't need much that isn't already built into wp7.
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If you find yourself only using 10-20 apps on other OS, odds are you will be perfectly happy with wp7. I think I have a total of 8 third party apps right now, I just don't need much that isn't already built into wp7.
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exactly, and after mango there're gonna be much more built-in apps even if you'd like to use many apps, go right ahead, it won't slow down the OS (unlike android)
I would spend sometime playing with one in the shop and see what you think, I like my Ominia 7
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uhh yea stop spreading FUD naco he's looking for someone to help him purchase a wp7 device not for someone to deter him from purchasing a wp7!
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You're FUD as a whole. As I see you get many warnings on this forum.
Don't reply to me if possible.
doministry said:
You're FUD as a whole. As I see you get many warnings on this forum.
Don't reply to me if possible.
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u stop posting bull**** I'll stop replying.
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u stop posting bull**** I'll stop replying.
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You keep replying. You don't even have the ability to understand what you read.
i have a HTC 7 Pro, and a Samsung Omnia 7.
Best Phones i've ever had.
Even Android Phones like Galaxy S (S II wasnt out back then), Nexus etc were simply bad after i used a WinPho7
Keep in mind that everyone has their own opinion, and this is mine.
I left android for a huge reason (one of the same reasons why I left winmo as well)
no matter how much a custom rom improved the experience, at little things, both OSes sucked at. I didn't want to buy apple because they are POS when you jailbreak them. That said, windows phone intrigued me after playing with it for a good 10 days. And when I had to go back to android or windows mobile, life was grim. I was bored with the constant rom flashing to get the device to work. even though miui was good for android and dutty was good for windows mobile, the experience overall was mediocre.
I am definitely enjoying windows phone and it gives me so much options
With Mango around the corner I can now recommend WP7 without hesitation as I know things like push notifications will be fixed soon. That's the only thing I don't like about WP7 along with some very poor Xbox Live games.
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I left android for a huge reason (one of the same reasons why I left winmo as well)
no matter how much a custom rom improved the experience, at little things, both OSes sucked at. I didn't want to buy apple because they are POS when you jailbreak them. That said, windows phone intrigued me after playing with it for a good 10 days. And when I had to go back to android or windows mobile, life was grim. I was bored with the constant rom flashing to get the device to work. even though miui was good for android and dutty was good for windows mobile, the experience overall was mediocre.
I am definitely enjoying windows phone and it gives me so much options
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thats a thing that bothers me, too....i already had a optimus speed for a couple of time and all i did was flashing a new rom again and again....
i already thought of an iphone too but since i already got a contract and have to buy the phone at the normal price, the iphone would be around 580 euro ;(
the perfect device would be a good out-of-the-box phone at a "normal" price where i don´t have to tweak everything myself
but thx for your answers
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thats a thing that bothers me, too....i already had a optimus speed for a couple of time and all i did was flashing a new rom again and again....
i already thought of an iphone too but since i already got a contract and have to buy the phone at the normal price, the iphone would be around 580 euro ;(
the perfect device would be a good out-of-the-box phone at a "normal" price where i don´t have to tweak everything myself
but thx for your answers
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sounds like wp7 may be just for you, its the best out of the box experience and there's no cluttered UI like ios or tiny (though admittedly clear) screen. wP7 never stops amazing me with all of its functionality.
indeed, it sounds pretty good to me
maybe i should wait till september?? i read somewhere that new phones will be released then and it´s my birthday too
No flame war, no discuss about the phone itself. Just wanna know how many of you would buy any Lumia if you could today.
Edit: Lets say it is already selling in your country and lets say that it costs €420/$585 (or just convert the price).
My option wasn't there.
"No way! Nokia has nothing"
Mine wasn't here either.
"Waiting for a 900 series from Nokia"
No way!!!!!!
So maybe you guys should hit "wait till Apollo", it's when they are releasing next devices (according to Nokia).
Well, until now, Nokia is doing fine!
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So maybe you guys should hit "wait till Apollo", it's when they are releasing next devices (according to Nokia).
Well, until now, Nokia is doing fine!
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But that wouldn't be as big an exclamation point as what I posted.
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But that wouldn't be as big an exclamation point as what I posted.
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Yeah hahahah. But the guy there.. well, whatever. If you think Nokia has nothing, another option may include you. Like moving to another phone like HTC Titan, or just to an iPhone/Android.
No thanks, no.
Not wasting money on underpowered devices.
Nope.
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I can get by on 16 GB and lack of FFC. Unfortunately, importing a Lumia 800 pretty much costs the same as buying an unlocked iPhone 4s.
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I can get by on 16 GB and lack of FFC. Unfortunately, importing a Lumia 800 pretty much costs the same as buying an unlocked iPhone 4s.
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Dont know where you from, but pretend its selling in your country and convert the price to your current money
Generally, polls should include all choices. Mine wasn't there either.
In short: nope.
/the last two don't even make sense.
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I can get by on 16 GB and lack of FFC. Unfortunately, importing a Lumia 800 pretty much costs the same as buying an unlocked iPhone 4s.
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I voted yes but the real answer is yes when the price drops. I am fine with 16GB and I am not pretty enough to need a FFC.
Played with Lumia 800 in Phones4u. Screen is too small for my liking (in IE9 especially, the letter are so small) other than that I'm in love with it.
I was at Nokia conference today in Warsaw (after Nokia World 2011). I saw and take Lumia 710 and 800. So, these devices is nice, but not exciting. One problem they have - NO TETHERING (internet sharing). New devices from other producers have this option (Titan, Radar, etc.) why Nokia haven't ? I don't know. IMO Nokia want encourage customers Nokia Drive (turn by turn navigation) and if other developers do not do good app navigation for Europe - Nokia win this race.
where is the I already have a wp7 option?
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where is the I already have a wp7 option?
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I'm not going to change my beautiful HD7 till it gets unuseful. Think I will wait till Apollo to change device because it's really expensive to change devices in my country (The only WP7 that came here is LG Optimus 7 and it's announced but they don't have it in store so you have to bring your phone from USA or Europe ).
I can say the Lumia 800 design is beautiful, but it has a lot of waste (I call waste to the space between the end of the screen and the edge of the phone), the N9 have exactly the same size and it has a bigger screen and the front facing camera. My HD7 is not so big compared to the Lumia and it have 0.6' more of screen, and when someone see my phone they are impresed by the big screen and the amazing thing (not telling when you show the kickstand, they just come crazy )..
In my opinion I'll see what Nokia, HTC and Samsung does with Apollo and then make a decition. But if I have to decide now, I would go with a Titan or a Focus S!
I really want a bigger screen around the 4 to 4.5 inch mark and a front facing camera for Skype. There is no need for me to upgrade my LG Optimus 7 as it has all the same features and slightly bigger screen.
I might need to look at the Samsung S if Nokia take to long, Although I am not to fussed on how it looks compared to the Nokia 800.
If Nokia's Apollo has a FFC, 4 to 4.5 inch screen and 32 GB and is released in the not to distant future that's what I will get.
I still do not understand why Microsoft did not make sure there is a FFC in all new phones, Considering they just spent so much on Skype it is plane stupid.
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I still do not understand why Microsoft did not make sure there is a FFC in all new phones, Considering they just spent so much on Skype it is plane stupid.
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I don't think it's possible for Microsoft to make something like that mandatory if they truly want to reach all price points. They even removed the minimum of 8GB restriction, there are some that will ship with just 4 GB of space.
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...Waiting for a 900 series from Nokia.
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I'm with hwalker on the 900 series phone, though I'll happily use an 800 or an N9 while I wait.
I work for AT&T and just received my Lumia 900 yesterday... I've been a long time Android user so needless to say, I am at a lost for my Google services... and Pandora Radio... anyway is there any means of getting my Google services to work? and is there any way to get Nokia Music to work in the US? Thanks for the help and apologies if I posted in the wrong channel.
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I work for AT&T and just received my Lumia 900 yesterday... I've been a long time Android user so needless to say, I am at a lost for my Google services... and Pandora Radio... anyway is there any means of getting my Google services to work? and is there any way to get Nokia Music to work in the US? Thanks for the help and apologies if I posted in the wrong channel.
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Why don't you just flash the ics ROM. I've seen the Nokia Lumia 900 running Ics
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I would love to do that but my boss my frown on it lol...
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I work for AT&T and just received my Lumia 900 yesterday... I've been a long time Android user so needless to say, I am at a lost for my Google services... and Pandora Radio... anyway is there any means of getting my Google services to work? and is there any way to get Nokia Music to work in the US? Thanks for the help and apologies if I posted in the wrong channel.
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I guess an iPhone user making the switch would also complain about losing "apple services".
But here's a thing - if you're going with a new phone, why not try new services? Let's face it, Androids have been horribly #smokedbywindowsphone in the real-world tests of simple things like finding a restaurant, posting to twitter and facebook, uploading a pic to facebook...the tight integration of the people hub and the extended features of Bing (visual/music/local scout) might just be better
Tell us what services you are using, and we'll point you in the right direction for the WP alternative.
For starters, instead of Pandora, try TuneIn Radio.
can u post some pics taken with the camera?? that would be pretty awesome of you...
as far as google services, try out some new stuff...windows market is growing every day. I think I would be a little lost too, although I do love the interface of wp7
Yes, please post camera samples, i'm specifically interested in indoors pictures, low light without flash too. Please..
I also have the Lumia 900. After being excited about this phones camera...i can tell you that I am severely disappointed. I've been using the Samsung Note and the pictures aren't even close. Almost seems like there is a camera problem that needs to be fixed.
Very grainy and out of focus. Poor colors and detail...and shots im low light are terrible. Worst phone camera I have used in a long time. I tried to attach an image but I can't on Windows phone 7. I'll put on on later.
That being said...the front camera is the best I've used by far.
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I also have the Lumia 900. After being excited about this phones camera...i can tell you that I am severely disappointed. I've been using the Samsung Note and the pictures aren't even close. Almost seems like there is a camera problem that needs to be fixed.
Very grainy and out of focus. Poor colors and detail...and shots im low light are terrible. Worst phone camera I have used in a long time. I tried to attach an image but I can't on Windows phone 7. I'll put on on later.
That being said...the front camera is the best I've used by far.
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I had a feeling the camera was going to stink...the 800 does and its the SAME lens. The truth hurts, but I take a lot of pictures with my phones, so I would probably have to pass if it truly ends up being sub-par.
What google services are you trying to use? I've been using Gmail, google calendar and gmail contacts for as long as I've been using WP7.
Have you had problems with any of these?
Here are a couple indoor shots. The first is with no flash...the second with flash.
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What google services are you trying to use? I've been using Gmail, google calendar and gmail contacts for as long as I've been using WP7.
Have you had problems with any of these?
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Why don't you take pictures by tapping the screen, mu focus took bad pictures with the camera button, but with with tapping it took better pictures, way better pictures.
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Here are a couple indoor shots. The first is with no flash...the second with flash.
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Thanks. Well, It isn't too impressive.. I'd say it does look to be same cam as in Lumia 800. Unfortunately.
Hmm look here:
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Those pics where shot with the 900 and they look rather good?
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Hmm look here:
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Those pics where shot with the 900 and they look rather good?
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They do look rather good. That low light pic with phone is very sharp and almost no noise. Still, it's only macro. Also, for some reason there is no exif data, did he process them?
The camera leaves a lot to be desired...but the phone in general performs well. I have a love hate relationship with windows phone...but if it's your thing you just can't beat the build quality of this device. It looks and feels expensive. Call quality is great and the speakers sound excellent too.
jermean said:
I work for AT&T and just received my Lumia 900 yesterday... I've been a long time Android user so needless to say, I am at a lost for my Google services... and Pandora Radio... anyway is there any means of getting my Google services to work? and is there any way to get Nokia Music to work in the US? Thanks for the help and apologies if I posted in the wrong channel.
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MetroRadio in the marketplace use Pandora and works great
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MetroRadio in the marketplace use Pandora and works great
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I like WPFandora
So far, I'm very disappointed in the Lumia 900, and WP7 as a whole.
Mango is definitely an improvement over 7.0, but it still doesn't hold a candle to Android for customization and development. I would take it over iPhone, just because it does offer quite a few improvements in user interface, and useability, IMHO.
I am going to continue working to learn the WP7, and figure out what benefits it actually has over Android.
Also, don't believe the hyp on the Smoked by Windows Phone. It's all a matter of how you have the phone set up. If you have the particular app on your Homescreen, then yes, it's faster than an Android that doesn't have it. However, as has already been proven in the incident in Santa Clara, CA. If you have your Android setup with Homescreen Widgets to do these tasks, then it can be just as fast, if not faster, than WP7. So, basically, the whole Smoked by Windows Phone, is nothing but a gimmick, that is set up to "game" the competition. The true test, would be a comparison of doing things with the phones straight out of the box, rather than having them already preset, and pretending like you can't do that with an Android.
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Also, don't believe the hyp on the Smoked by Windows Phone. It's all a matter of how you have the phone set up. If you have the particular app on your Homescreen, then yes, it's faster than an Android that doesn't have it. However, as has already been proven in the incident in Santa Clara, CA. If you have your Android setup with Homescreen Widgets to do these tasks, then it can be just as fast, if not faster, than WP7. So, basically, the whole Smoked by Windows Phone, is nothing but a gimmick, that is set up to "game" the competition. The true test, would be a comparison of doing things with the phones straight out of the box, rather than having them already preset, and pretending like you can't do that with an Android.
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You need to go away and research both WP and the Smoked campaign. If you really want the challenge out of the box, Android is gonna get SMOKED.
You draw attention to one of the challenges, in which both parties had made mods to the homescreen.
But lets take an Android and WP, straight out of the box and ask them to post to Facebook and Twitter simultaneously...I promise you, WP is gonna smoke the Android phone because that functionality is part of the core OS on a WP.
Or howabout, straight out of the box, we post a photo to facebook? AH yes, Android is going to get smoked there too, because that too is part of the core functionality. You see, with WP, there is no need to even download a facebook or twitter app to achieve either of these tasks. You'd still be searching Google Play for the app when the WP phone has already finished.
Same with the Bing search...there are no widgets or apps involved...you can just do it, straight out of the box.
Makes me wish that MS didn't use the Weather Live Tiles (although Live Tiles are native, not a downloaded widget).
But the guy still had to disable his lock screen (not exactly "out of the box" eh?) to win the competition
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But for all those 900 owners...
How is the battery life?
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You need to go away and research both WP and the Smoked campaign. If you really want the challenge out of the box, Android is gonna get SMOKED.
You draw attention to one of the challenges, in which both parties had made mods to the homescreen.
But lets take an Android and WP, straight out of the box and ask them to post to Facebook and Twitter simultaneously...I promise you, WP is gonna smoke the Android phone because that functionality is part of the core OS on a WP.
Or howabout, straight out of the box, we post a photo to facebook? AH yes, Android is going to get smoked there too, because that too is part of the core functionality. You see, with WP, there is no need to even download a facebook or twitter app to achieve either of these tasks. You'd still be searching Google Play for the app when the WP phone has already finished.
Same with the Bing search...there are no widgets or apps involved...you can just do it, straight out of the box.
Makes me wish that MS didn't use the Weather Live Tiles (although Live Tiles are native, not a downloaded widget).
But the guy still had to disable his lock screen (not exactly "out of the box" eh?) to win the competition
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How is the battery life?
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I thought that was a mistake by the salesperson. The weather task is good when competing with the iphone, which still has a static icon. I remember when I switched from an iphone to android it was one of the major differences.
posting a status to twitter is the same. posting a picture to facebook gives windows phone a big advantage on ios/android.
you can't compare out of the box performance on these tasks, my phone will only be in that state for a short time, if I do something all the time, I will optimize my phone for that.
So yes, windows phone makes some of the tasks in that challenge a lot easier but that's not what I show people who want to see my windows phone.
I usually show them the people hub and group tiles and how I can see all the facebook and twitter updates right there without opening different apps.
It seems that many people wanted to lose so they can get a new windows phone, and combined with this incident, it led to MS scrapping the in store challenges in favor of a recycle offer for old phones
btw, Android's widgets are very similar to the live tiles, but my Android's battery would die if I had too many 'live' widgets (that get data from the network) and the phone would slow down after a few hours. I had to reboot the phone almost every day. My Lumia 800 rarely gets restarted
I recieved mine today, and while I need to upgrade my sim card to MicroSIM, I can tell that the first impression was good. the phone feels fast, and I think that with a bit of tweaking it could be even better. I only have to hope that people don't stop making apps for 7.5/7.8.
how about you? are you satisfied with your phone?
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I recieved mine today, and while I need to upgrade my sim card to MicroSIM, I can tell that the first impression was good. the phone feels fast, and I think that with a bit of tweaking it could be even better. I only have to hope that people don't stop making apps for 7.5/7.8.
how about you? are you satisfied with your phone?
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I am Quiet happy with mine
The Sales Guy who sold me the phone just cut my normal sim into a micosim and I am using that with no problem
Things I like :
1) Battery life in par with my SGS2 ( 13-19 hours depending on usage)
2) Nokia apps the best
3) I keep downloading more apps on my lumia 900 than I did on my HTC HD7
4) The screen is awesome in daylight ( even beating my SGS2 screen)
5) Camera setting tweaks can really give you awesome photos.
6) I really can't be bothered with us not getting WP8 as the phone does all that I need and I will buy the second generation wp8 as I am sure the first generation will have its on bug problems.
Do enjoy your Lumia its the best Wp7 out there...
that would be surprising, I've mostly heard "MID RANGE EXPENSIVE PHONE! NO WP8 UPGRADE! WORTHLESS!"
I'm happy with it as long as Nokia continue to sort out the niggles and bring out more new apps.
It works well at making and holding calls, the screen is excellent in sunlight, the camera seems good at taking pics outdoors, the battery is lasting me a good two days, and the satnav seems to work fine.
I don't care that much that it won't get WP8 as I see that as a different operating system. It would be the same as Microsoft saying that my current PC wouldn't be able to run Windows 8. It wouldn't worry me, I'd just continue with Windows 7 until I decide to upgrade my PC.
It's a terrible phone. Sorry Guys, no offense ... but I have a Lumia 900.1 from my employer for test purposes and I really dislike it. Here's why:
sharp corners. ouch
much heavier (5.7oz) than my samsung galaxy s2 with screen protector film (4.8oz)
windows OS is a real pain compared to my previous iPhone 3GS and Android, and the desktop / home screen is crazy ... black? Come on ... no photo / wallpaper? And that broad black strip on the right .. really? Wasted desktop space ... they have this massive screen and they choose to a) waste it on what look like melamine floor tiles and b) take even more space with a big fat black strip? Ugly. Plus, I get to choose exactly the colours that Microsoft want me to choose on my own desktop menu?
I have to PAY for Angry Birds?? Really?? Not on the iPhone or Android
and my biggest gripe ... Almost every useful app says this: "If you want to use me, you have to OK Microsoft and its partners getting yur WPS and GPS and other private information ... OK?" which makes me click "not OK, no" and which causes me to not be able to use maps etc .. even Sound Hound.
This phone is terrible. I LOVE (still) my other older Nikias ... tiny, powerful, reliable, robust, my 6301(b) even has hrdware wifi clling (UMA) ... AMAZING phones. Stereo FM radio etc etc. What the hec were Nokia thinking with this phone and what is up with Microsoft's OS??? It is generations behind.
I really wanted to love this phone. And as an ex-MSFTie, I really wanted to love MS OS. I have, after all, owned and loved other WinMo phones in the past. Eww... no thanks.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion but this kind of attitude really winds me up...
heinrich said:
It's a terrible phone. Sorry Guys, no offense ... but I have a Lumia 900.1 from my employer for test purposes and I really dislike it. Here's why:
sharp corners. ouch
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That may be a minor issue, not enough for me to dislike the phone though.
heinrich said:
much heavier (5.7oz) than my samsung galaxy s2 with screen protector film (4.8oz)
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You're having trouble lifting 5.7oz?
heinrich said:
windows OS is a real pain compared to my previous iPhone 3GS and Android, and the desktop / home screen is crazy ... black? Come on ... no photo / wallpaper? And that broad black strip on the right .. really? Wasted desktop space ... they have this massive screen and they choose to a) waste it on what look like melamine floor tiles and b) take even more space with a big fat black strip? Ugly. Plus, I get to choose exactly the colours that Microsoft want me to choose on my own desktop menu?
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A phone is designed to be used, not looked at. Take it outside into strong sunlight and you will see the advantage of the large tiles on a black background.
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I have to PAY for Angry Birds?? Really?? Not on the iPhone or Android
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God forbid that you should have to pay for something that people spent time and money developing - yeah, everything should be for free and then the world would be perfect.
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and my biggest gripe ... Almost every useful app says this: "If you want to use me, you have to OK Micrisift and its partners getting yur WPS and GPS and other private information ... OK?" which makes me click "not OK, no" and which causes me to not be able to use maps etc .. even Sound Hound.
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How is this different to Google getting the same info about you? These days I actually trust Microsoft more than I trust Google, who seem to be becoming one of the most evil corporations around.
MS were able to keep a few folks happy but pissed crapload others. Handset makers were "left off the bus" with Nokia got the heaviest blow due to so much hype before L900 launch. Feel free to defend WP7 and Lumia 900. The phone supposedly started @ $100, went free due to a software bug, then back to $100 for like 2-3 weeks, then $50 (amazon) pre 6/20, and after TWO months from launch, FREE!
Feel free to defend MS. People have already left, however. Well I expect to be asked "why are you still here?" Allow me to explain that I once a long-time MS follower because I said no to apple fanboism and android pre-duo core era was crap. Now I can't even find a clue to back WP. I'm pissed, bitter, and frustrated those are my lingering feelings toward MS mobile division. I can't move on until I finally unload the last of these crappy feelings (wish they were as easy as unloading 3x L900 ).
L900 is a feature phone. Software wise: checked, hardware wise: checked.
My dad is thinking of getting me this for my bday, does this phone take micro SD cards? I'm not sure if I wanna switch + the windows market is nowhere near as good as the android/apple app market.
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No SD card, and battery is not removable.
TYKIx said:
My dad is thinking of getting me this for my bday, does this phone take micro SD cards? I'm not sure if I wanna switch + the windows market is nowhere near as good as the android/apple app market.
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Everyone is entitled to an opinion but this kind of attitude really winds me up...
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How is this different to Google getting the same info about you? These days I actually trust Microsoft more than I trust Google, who seem to be becoming one of the most evil corporations around.
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Sorry, not meaning to be offensive, just posting my opinion (we all have them and I have used a number of different phones. My point was that I really was trying to like the phone because of my MS and Nokia history
I am starting to agree with you about Google. But I don't relish giving YET ANOTHER giant, unfettered access to my sensitive information. Google does not have access to information I give SoundHound and other apps, and those apps do not have or ask access to my location and sensitive data. In fact I have made it a point (apart from Google who have access to my mail and everything else; and my Bank etc) to refuse to instal apps that need my personal or sensitive info.
Simply-put, given the choices of Google and Microsoft, I choose Google, because their invasion of my privacy, at least, gives me inreturn, a VERY SIGNIFICANT benefit. But the MS / Nokia thing ... not even close.
I just switched from a Samsung Focus to a Lumia 900 the other day. It does load apps noticeably faster than my previous phone. Touchscreen response seems a bit slower though.
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It's a terrible phone. Sorry Guys, no offense ... but I have a Lumia 900.1 from my employer for test purposes and I really dislike it. Here's why: ...
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I have a lot of problems with the Lumia 900, but your complaints are very superficial and, in my opinion, totally invalid. You even say that you were given the device by an employer, and it's obvious you would not have bought the Lumia 900 or any WP7.x device if you had the choice.
You complain about the styling: this is a subjective area and the "sharp corners" and "heaviness" are definitely some of the Lumia 900's strengths. I've used an Epic 4G Touch (Sprint's GSII) and it is very light - in a way that feels very cheap. The Lumia 900 is "much heavier" according to you, yet it's less than an ounce difference. The relative heaviness also adds a feeling of durability definitely not found in the featherweight GSII. Still, this is a subjective area.
Next, you complain about Windows Phone in general. Your biggest gripe is the intro screen to downloaded apps? You make a point to mention that you have to pay for Angry Birds? Makes me think you've spent very little time with this device. You obviously are not a fan of Metro, and singling this out as a flaw with the Lumia 900 are not appropriate.
You say you "really wanted to love this phone." And yet you dislike the styling, the weight, and the OS. What made you think you'd ever love this phone if you hate everything about it? Everything you complain about could be plainly deduced by just looking at a picture of this device. Did you not see this device at all before it was given to you? I'm not sure how you could've "wanted to love this phone."
After nearly three months, still enjoying my (original) beautifully different Lumia 900.
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I really like my Lumia 900, I wanted one because of the bigger screen than the Lumia 800 and Front Camera, I preferred it to the HTC Titan and Titan 2 both of which I have owned & used, I was already very familiar with WP7 as owned a HD7 from day one so I knew exactly what to expect but got a few nice surprises with the Nokia software freebies, Design wise it is in a league of its own although not quite as cute as the Lumia 800, Nothing compares to it, I don't find it heavy at all, Battery life is good and performance wise it is very quick, It does everything I want and more, I am not fussed about it not getting a WP8 update and will be happy with the new home screen in WP7.8 along with whatever else they decide to throw in as long as it doesn't impair performance.
I like mine.
The first one I had was returned at about the 30 day mark when the capacitive buttons stopped working completely, but aside from that, it's been great.
I was expecting people to be complaining in here about the camera, lack of WP8 in the future, and the now-defunct data connection problem. Not sharp corners and unbearable heft @5.7oz. Geez.
Lack of home screen customization doesn't have to do with the Lumia 900 specifically; that's a well known, well publicized limitation of the OS itself and has been for eons. One would really assume that by now people would be talking about what they like and dislike about the phone as opposed to what they like and dislike about WP in threads specific to the phone like this. If people want to complain about WP7.X, there is a subforum for that.
My battery life has been great once I realized the MicroCell data connection was a huge drainer, calls are never dropped, I haven't had any forced restarts, and the hardware runs WP7.5 really quickly and smoothly.
Would you recommend this to someone coming from Android?
I'm on a budget and want something that's quick, expandable, and entertaining to use. The only thing that bothers me is the non HD screen, is it very noticeable?
as impopular as this might be, I'd say it's not a big issue.
HD films are too big to fit on the lumia anyway
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as impopular as this might be, I'd say it's not a big issue.
HD films are too big to fit on the lumia anyway
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Yeah, I never watched/loaded videos on my phone, I don't understand it. As long as I have YouTube, Pandora, and space for a few hundred songs I'm set lol. Btw, how's the DAC (audio) quality when listening through headphones? Are there equalizers available on the app store, market or whatever it is?
I prefer Lumia 900 over my iPhone 4S and Galaxy S2. Call quality and signal reception on this phone can't be beat. Believe or not Tango update actually has better management of LTE for me. I always have signal now, everywhere I go. Before Tango update, it was switching to 4G everytime I had one bar on LTE in places with bad reception even though LTE is much faster than 4G and has stronger signal; and 4G would crap out with no signal. Tango fixed that problem for me. My next phone is definitely a Nokia WP8. I don't see myself going back to Android. I would only switch to iPhone. Android isn't reliable enough for me and there are apps compatibility problems, especially in games. The thing I don't like about this phone is high background noise through headphone. I still have a Cowon J3 for music.
I absolutely love my Nokia Lumina 900. Everything is so perfect. Runs smooth my cyan 900 looks so cute and different. People at my work are always asking about my phone and want to play with my phone. Its the best WP7 I've had. I had an LG Incite and I loved that phone. Had a HTC HD7S and I loved that phone to death too! iOS and Android look so ugly. (and cheap because crappy tablets that sell at 50 dollars have android) was going to get the phone with beats audio but the biggest turn off was it had android. aside from not getting Windows Phone 8, I'm fine with that. Just waiting on a custom ROM with all languages like how I had for my HD7S using DeepShining.
I'm happpy with my Lumia 900. It's a great phone.
+ Battery life
+ Weight (the heaviness is a bonus; it feels durable and not cheap)
+ Size
+ Polycarbonate body + design
+ Screen quality, clear black technology
+ Windows Phone 7.5 (and 7.8 to come)
+ Nokia
- Light bleeding from capacitive buttons
- Clicking sound from bottom right hand side of the screen.
Overall I'd give the phone a 8.0/10. The minuses are unfortunate but don't occur in every phone, I was just unlucky I suppose.