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ICS vs Gingerbread

For me is not a big deal about ICS but for some it is....here is a comparison I found on YouTube. If I r on the xda app and it doesn't open click on, open in browser.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofEgPEwTWrg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Save us almighty CM and AOSP from the binds of Samsung and TouchWiz. Amen
Nice video. Seems like the browser has improved quite a bit.

me_is_rushin said:
Save us almighty CM and AOSP from the binds of Samsung and TouchWiz. Amen
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Amen brother! Preach on with your bad self!
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Amen!
Honestly the difference between aosp gingerbread and Ics is like what it is between windows 7 and XP. Once you make the leap you will never look back.
From touch wiz...it's like the windows ME of the bunch. POS....

zander21510 said:
Amen!
Honestly the difference between aosp gingerbread and Ics is like what it is between windows 7 and XP. Once you make the leap you will never look back.
From touch wiz...it's like the windows ME of the bunch. POS....
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But if we are talking Motoblur, Sense and TouchWizz....yah Ill take the wizz.

Personally, I think the "official" ICS (LPQ) for the SGS2 seems more like an alpha build than a final product. CM9 nightly version for the i9100 feels more stable than Samsung's LPQ release.
I think I'd just stick with Gingerbread, rather than upgrade to Samsung's ICS builds.

obviously ICS is better the look the feel the speed
Its like saying Tupac vs Sojiua boy

Yes... Another ICS thread!
Much like most of us, I've gotten fed up with the ICS thread phenomenon..
However, I wanted to post this thread for the veterans and Devs.
Of course those of us in the know have been watching the activity escalate in the online feeds, and I have to say it's exciting to see the ramping up of releases and leaks..
We are at the threshold of real ICS goodness. I for one have been watching Kevin's Nova Launcher, since I am not a big fan of TouchWiz. Don't get me wrong, Samsung is impressive at coding.. it's functional and beautiful but too too slow and not enough customization for us hardcore themers.. With a few custom apps I see a gorgeous, lightning fast, better than Vanilla ICS experience coming.
Thoughts?
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My thoughts: I don't get the big deal over ICS Now, people running WP7 on the other hand...I can see why they get jacked about OS updates - WP7 sucks exponentially less with each one

I can understand people not liking TouchWiz because of the lack of customization and other reasons but not for being too slow. When I first got my S2 I thought it was blazing fast. OP you really think TouchWiz is too slow?

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My thoughts: I don't get the big deal over ICS Now, people running WP7 on the other hand...I can see why they get jacked about OS updates - WP7 sucks exponentially less with each one
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that's in two different states to qualify, right?
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Ics has hardware acceleration. That makes the phone feel brand new. I'm running it on my vibrant and it's like a whole new world. I really wouldn't mind twizz ics because I personally like it.
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ingenious247 said:
Thoughts?
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I do not see the point of this thread

I actually just made a few posts in other threads about a vanilla launcher before seeing this.. check out trebuchet its similar to nova.
I get where you are headed and with a 4.0 build and a few custom aosp apps we can easily have a pretty vanilla rom
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I need to get an answer, which I've been combing through the forums and the internet. I've heard through a very reputable source that Samsung coded Touchwiz so deep it utilizes the on chip GPU verses all the other launchers uses up precious phone resources. Touchwiz was "made" for the hardware of this phone.
Can someone please verify this.
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lawalty said:
I need to get an answer, which I've been combing through the forums and the internet. I've heard through a very reputable source that Samsung coded Touchwiz so deep it utilizes the on chip GPU verses all the other launchers uses up precious phone resources. Touchwiz was "made" for the hardware of this phone.
Can someone please verify this.
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Precious resources? Lol I'm running an alternative launcher and a bunch of other intensive apps and have over 500MB of RAM free...
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I hate ics too wait,what, we have ics build for t989 im downloading now
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death to TW!!! HAHA

Tw isn't even that bad lol, our phones are fast enough that it doesn't matter

i think its more the UI that most people don't like. ICS is so much prettier and smoother. for me, give me AOSP and I'll decide how I want my phone to look.
But the biggest reason I don't like TW or Sense or any of those custom UI's is cuz it just delays OS updates that much more cuz of that crap. When the AOSP version does everything the Custom ones do....what do I need the custom one for?

(Q) I was wondering...

Which is the best ROM out there right now that is fast, stable, not perfect but at least good battery life, fast lock on gps and doesn't have data loss...? All your answers are great fully appreciated
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Well I am still on 5.01, but it's jailbroken. It's blazing fast, ridiculously smooth, relatively stable, GPS lock is near instantaneous, and I don't have any data loss ever. I do drop calls from time to time and battery life leaves much to be desired though.

_MetalHead_ said:
Well I am still on 5.01, but it's jailbroken. It's blazing fast, ridiculously smooth, relatively stable, GPS lock is near instantaneous, and I don't have any data loss ever. I do drop calls from time to time and battery life leaves much to be desired though.
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What rom is this?
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l3g3nd.k1ll4h said:
What rom is this?
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LOL - He's messing with you man - look at his sig....

l3g3nd.k1ll4h said:
What rom is this?
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I O S ....he is a traitor.....
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Epix4G said:
I O S ....he is a traitor.....
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Lol damn it... well any ideas guys?
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_MetalHead_ said:
Well I am still on 5.01, but it's jailbroken. It's blazing fast, ridiculously smooth, relatively stable, GPS lock is near instantaneous, and I don't have any data loss ever. I do drop calls from time to time and battery life leaves much to be desired though.
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One of the best replies to a thread like this I have seen.

Epix4G said:
I O S ....he is a traitor.....
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Not a traitor, I haven't gone native yet.

Best way to answer a thread like this is not to. My .02
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Very stable,, not perfect though,, Fantastic battery life,, Absolutely, NO data loss,,,,
Two cans on a string. And I think you can get it from Cox Cable. Heh, heh, saw it
on a commercial for Cox.

Calkulin has easily the best ICS ROM out there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1527041

MeWarning said:
Calkulin has easily the best ICS ROM out there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1527041
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Please provide objective data to back up your subjective claim.

Blazer 4.0 is hands down the best room out there right now speed battery life everything works.
Can't wait for phantom hackers ICS ROM my mouth is watering lol
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entirely a subjective question I will say codename which is aosp but other people like touch wuzz ..... try them all out and see for yourself
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Codename is the best rom out there, except its kinda like aokp, so either of them, except aokp is based of cm9, so either of the three, except they are aosp, so maybe try a touchwiz one, but i heard that fc24 has worse battery life than fc22, but maybe if you update your profile.......whatever, flash them all

Like Epix said, it's all subjective. If you're starting out, you should probably stay with Gingerbread roms. There are several good ones, check the android development thread. I prefer Calkulin's Gingerbread (currently at v3.0) not only because of the stability but also for the stock color scheme/dialer etc. Most of the other roms are themed with different colors that are I just don't prefer.
Calkulins and Phantom Hacker's Blazer seem to be two of the most popular but you will have to try several to see what works best for you in appearance, speed, battery life and features!

Just curious

Anyone still running EL29 stock or rooted instead of the ICS roms / leaks? If so, why?

I did for a day after reverting back from ICS, but it absolutely sucked. Touchwiz is ugly as hell. It's unbelievable how ugly it is. Did I mention it was ugly? I went straight back to blazer after that terrible, terrible day. The battery life was crappy anyways. Never again...

revamper said:
I did for a day after reverting back from ICS, but it absolutely sucked. Touchwiz is ugly as hell. It's unbelievable how ugly it is. Did I mention it was ugly? I went straight back to blazer after that terrible, terrible day. The battery life was crappy anyways. Never again...
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Only thing holding me back from Blazer is the Settings menu theme. I know, i'm OCD.

I am had some smoothness issues with ics plus the fear of bricks lol
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batting1000 said:
Only thing holding me back from Blazer is the Settings menu theme. I know, i'm OCD.
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I would suggest going for Calkulins 2.9.2 then. It runs on lightly themed touchwiz. I just absolutely cant stand the pull down notification bar on the stock rom. The reason why I say 2.9.2 is because 3.0 runs on gunslinger which doesn't play well with the stock underclock/undervolt scripts. It's meant to be used with SetCPU. Also 3.0 uses a 4x5 drawer rather than 5x5. 4x5 is retarded in my opinion. I can't stand it.

Well I like the ICS leaks which I''m using now. Only thing that bugs me is the turbo scroll bug and battery life is about 85 percent of what it is on GB but I'm still gonna give it a few days for the kernel to settle.

I came from the og epic and found that extreme overclocking and my inclination to try tweaks and tinker outweighs my desire to run any leaks. Therefore I have stuck with el29 as source is available. Calkulins 2.9.2 with gunslinger is working suitable to me...
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revamper said:
I did for a day after reverting back from ICS, but it absolutely sucked. Touchwiz is ugly as hell. It's unbelievable how ugly it is. Did I mention it was ugly? I went straight back to blazer after that terrible, terrible day. The battery life was crappy anyways. Never again...
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You forgot to mention TW is ugly. Only part you left out.
---Jay--- From the CM9 powered E4GT

bryce850 said:
I am had some smoothness issues with ics plus the fear of bricks lol
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You can't brick as long as you don't flash anything with ICS based recovery.. as long as you use EL29/cwr5 kernel for flashing, you can play just like its GB
sj
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ICS at this point in time isnt all that on our device
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fatboypup said:
ICS at this point in time isnt all that on our device
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Who doesn't like bragging about how updated their device is with co workers
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I find ISC smooth as could be with great battery life. I always use SFHubs odin and stock ICS launcher. I dont restore data and back up with google and have not had a problem. SFHubs self extracting odin has got to be the safest most user friendly way to flash in my opinion.
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Yes, using rooted stock EL29. Reason is that while I love to tinker and geek out, I have been doing that for decades... There comes a point when you just want some stability and choose not to create more work for yourself than what one would classify as fun.
I can't say that the bricking is or is not a concern for me. There are a few bugs that really tick me off at times, don't get me wrong. so if anything would make me consider going to ics leaked roms, it would be another round of media scanning reboots at startup
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because i touch myself at night.

I'm running an EL29 based rom. Because GB works. I find these ICS leaks abysmal, no offense to the hard work that the devs do.
I don't care to suffer through crap battery life, glitches, bugs, notifications that don't work, terrible browser experience etc etc.
Until we have an official ICS rom, i'm really not interested anymore in these unfinished leaks.

LordLugard said:
I don't care to suffer through crap battery life, glitches, bugs, notifications that don't work, terrible browser experience etc etc.
Until we have an official ICS rom, i'm really not interested anymore in these unfinished leaks.
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This. Still running TSM Revamped 1.2.9 because i like how it looks and it just works.
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LordLugard said:
I'm running an EL29 based rom. Because GB works. I find these ICS leaks abysmal, no offense to the hard work that the devs do.
I don't care to suffer through crap battery life, glitches, bugs, notifications that don't work, terrible browser experience etc etc.
Until we have an official ICS rom, i'm really not interested anymore in these unfinished leaks.
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You hit the nail on the head with exactly the same way I feel. When the official ICS ROM comes out and the devs work their magic on it then I'll move to one.

I live for turbo scroll. Touch Wiz is the biz. Touch Wiz 4.0 is the bomb.
Pp.
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I haven't been able to use any other ROMs since CM9 came out. It really makes everything else feel unusable. I can understand those that wait for battery life to improve but I can live with it
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Until they drop the official ics ota, in the mean time I I'll keep rocking Calks E4GT el29 v. 3.0/Overstew'a ics theme. TW4.0.
Pp.
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Any good scrolling ICS roms out?

I tried the ICS alpha a while back but couldn't stand it cause the scrolling felt awful to me.
I read that the final version still has the same scrolling experience.
Are there any ICS roms that have a normal scrolling feel that I can use?
Thanks

azmtbiker said:
I tried the ICS alpha a while back but couldn't stand it cause the scrolling felt awful to me.
I read that the final version still has the same scrolling experience.
Are there any ICS roms that have a normal scrolling feel that I can use?
Thanks
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It may be terribly self serving but...I think my m'ICS Rom has really nice scrolling(as far as ICS roms go). There's some tweaking in there specifically for it. Are you on ICS now?
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Cm9 has normal scrolling.
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sleshepic said:
It may be terribly self serving but...I think my m'ICS Rom has really nice scrolling(as far as ICS roms go). There's some tweaking in there specifically for it. Are you on ICS now?
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+1 I agree, I did see a noticeable improvement after the update!
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azmtbiker said:
I tried the ICS alpha a while back but couldn't stand it cause the scrolling felt awful to me.
I read that the final version still has the same scrolling experience.
Are there any ICS roms that have a normal scrolling feel that I can use?
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No!, scroll at your own risk.
Pp.
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How many are still on GB and why?

Just a poll of who is still using GB and why?
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+1 here
Great battery life and everything works flawlessly. Don't need to do any special tweaking or disabling or vodoo to get good battery life and have a stable phone.
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I'm on GB too unnamed rom now.I just wish there were more GB roms out.

I am also. Because it is way smoother than ics. Really the only reason battery wise I got same on ics as gb. But can't wait to get the jb update!
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Isn't it true the MHL video only works on GB also?
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MHL works on ICS flawlessly,on touchwiz roms only though, so.
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I get better performance and better battery life on FI27 then 2.3.6 GB. Time to move on.. Oh and don't have to tweak anything

Crucifixion said:
I get better performance and better battery life on FI27 then 2.3.6 GB. Time to move on.. Oh and don't have to tweak anything
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I clap for you
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jordan2333 said:
I'm on GB too unnamed rom now.I just wish there were more GB roms out.
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Just switched back to UnNamed for the weekend. When i need to 100% depend on my phone, GB is always there for me and never fails me.
Unforuntely Im a flash addict so i will keep switching roms. But can always depend on good ol' gingerbread

KEEP a Blazer 4.0 backup!

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KEEP a Blazer 4.0 backup!
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I keep a Blazer 4.1 always ready and load it regularly to update apps then re-backup. By far the most reliable I've had. I'm on venum Fi27 right now. Its the best ICS I've had so far.
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better battery life...

I don't know if anyone is picking up on the trends here. But you will notice people basically stating they either use or in some way shape or form revert back to gb to get things done or perform functions that should be trivial. With that in mind it becomes clearer and clearer that samsungs implementation (not Google) of ics is seriously flawed. I can only pray that jb doesn't turn out like ics.
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Surprised to see the support for gb. I do live the battery life, but the ui of ics is just too nice.
With that said, is calk's Rom still considered the best gb Rom? I've seen unnamed and phantom mentioned as well.
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I'm on calks 3.0 and I love this Rom and the battery life.. don't get me wrong, I love ics/jb bells and whistles and the customization but the stability of a gb rom can't be beat until all the bugs are ironed out... but who knows, maybe when ics /jb is really official and there's an officialcustom kernel built, I don't see gb being beat...
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On Calkulin GB rom
Only reason still on GB is not sure how to pop up to ICS or Jelly a little confused and looking for a good how to upgrade breakdown tutorial.

I would've stayed on blazer or any gingerbread if YouTube and Songza were usable, no 4G in my area and those apps would just keep loading on 3g. I honestly don't see any difference in battery life with gingerbread and the newer ICS roms, only slight speed difference.
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i went to JB/ICS but the download speeds are so much slower for me on them so i stick to GB to tether to my laptop.

Me. just all around more stable and faster to me.
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I'm running blazer 4.1 because the GB data speeds/ping are better than ICS/JB. I can't stand the touchwiz super-scroll and AOSP ICS/JB still has the 4G bug. Once AOSP fixes the 4G bug I will update. I have never had battery problems on any Rom.