For me is not a big deal about ICS but for some it is....here is a comparison I found on YouTube. If I r on the xda app and it doesn't open click on, open in browser.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofEgPEwTWrg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Save us almighty CM and AOSP from the binds of Samsung and TouchWiz. Amen
Nice video. Seems like the browser has improved quite a bit.
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Save us almighty CM and AOSP from the binds of Samsung and TouchWiz. Amen
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Amen brother! Preach on with your bad self!
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Amen!
Honestly the difference between aosp gingerbread and Ics is like what it is between windows 7 and XP. Once you make the leap you will never look back.
From touch wiz...it's like the windows ME of the bunch. POS....
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Amen!
Honestly the difference between aosp gingerbread and Ics is like what it is between windows 7 and XP. Once you make the leap you will never look back.
From touch wiz...it's like the windows ME of the bunch. POS....
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But if we are talking Motoblur, Sense and TouchWizz....yah Ill take the wizz.
Personally, I think the "official" ICS (LPQ) for the SGS2 seems more like an alpha build than a final product. CM9 nightly version for the i9100 feels more stable than Samsung's LPQ release.
I think I'd just stick with Gingerbread, rather than upgrade to Samsung's ICS builds.
obviously ICS is better the look the feel the speed
Its like saying Tupac vs Sojiua boy
Yes... Another ICS thread!
Much like most of us, I've gotten fed up with the ICS thread phenomenon..
However, I wanted to post this thread for the veterans and Devs.
Of course those of us in the know have been watching the activity escalate in the online feeds, and I have to say it's exciting to see the ramping up of releases and leaks..
We are at the threshold of real ICS goodness. I for one have been watching Kevin's Nova Launcher, since I am not a big fan of TouchWiz. Don't get me wrong, Samsung is impressive at coding.. it's functional and beautiful but too too slow and not enough customization for us hardcore themers.. With a few custom apps I see a gorgeous, lightning fast, better than Vanilla ICS experience coming.
Thoughts?
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My thoughts: I don't get the big deal over ICS Now, people running WP7 on the other hand...I can see why they get jacked about OS updates - WP7 sucks exponentially less with each one
I can understand people not liking TouchWiz because of the lack of customization and other reasons but not for being too slow. When I first got my S2 I thought it was blazing fast. OP you really think TouchWiz is too slow?
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My thoughts: I don't get the big deal over ICS Now, people running WP7 on the other hand...I can see why they get jacked about OS updates - WP7 sucks exponentially less with each one
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that's in two different states to qualify, right?
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Ics has hardware acceleration. That makes the phone feel brand new. I'm running it on my vibrant and it's like a whole new world. I really wouldn't mind twizz ics because I personally like it.
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Thoughts?
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I do not see the point of this thread
I actually just made a few posts in other threads about a vanilla launcher before seeing this.. check out trebuchet its similar to nova.
I get where you are headed and with a 4.0 build and a few custom aosp apps we can easily have a pretty vanilla rom
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I need to get an answer, which I've been combing through the forums and the internet. I've heard through a very reputable source that Samsung coded Touchwiz so deep it utilizes the on chip GPU verses all the other launchers uses up precious phone resources. Touchwiz was "made" for the hardware of this phone.
Can someone please verify this.
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I need to get an answer, which I've been combing through the forums and the internet. I've heard through a very reputable source that Samsung coded Touchwiz so deep it utilizes the on chip GPU verses all the other launchers uses up precious phone resources. Touchwiz was "made" for the hardware of this phone.
Can someone please verify this.
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Precious resources? Lol I'm running an alternative launcher and a bunch of other intensive apps and have over 500MB of RAM free...
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I hate ics too wait,what, we have ics build for t989 im downloading now
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death to TW!!! HAHA
Tw isn't even that bad lol, our phones are fast enough that it doesn't matter
i think its more the UI that most people don't like. ICS is so much prettier and smoother. for me, give me AOSP and I'll decide how I want my phone to look.
But the biggest reason I don't like TW or Sense or any of those custom UI's is cuz it just delays OS updates that much more cuz of that crap. When the AOSP version does everything the Custom ones do....what do I need the custom one for?
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Ok I have been a major lurker on xda for a while. I just created an xda profile a few days ago and made my first contribution with a hacked hulu plus app. Now I want to make a bigger contribution. In the form of a ROM. Ive got my build environment up and running smooth.
Now I dont want any donations. You wont find any donations links any where. I hack and build for fun. This community has many taliented developers. I just hope to merge what I know into real world stuff.
Now my question to the community is what do you want to see in a Rom? Features? Tweaks?
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Ok I have been a major lurker on xda for a while. I just created an xda profile a few days ago and made my first contribution with a hacked hulu plus app. Now I want to make a bigger contribution. In the form of a ROM. Ive got my build environment up and running smooth.
Now I dont want any donations. You wont find any donations links any where. I hack and build for fun. This community has many taliented developers. I just hope to merge what I know into real world stuff.
Now my question to the community is what do you want to see in a Rom? Features? Tweaks?
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Just my opinion, but stock TouchWiz ICS with good battery life.
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Just my opinion, but stock TouchWiz ICS with good battery life.
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Opinions is what im looking for good sir. I actually like TW alot.
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I was going to help you out with info till I seen that you like TW...
The reason is because I know of only none TW roms since TW is the crappiest thing since sliced bread.
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Opinions is what im looking for good sir. I actually like TW alot.
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Same. It's very smooth and I like it a lot. Lmk when you get an ICS TW ROM with good battery life like EL29.
Just a fully functional ICS Stock rom that plays nice with the battery is all I can really ask for
You developers spend enormous amount of time and effort to provide to this community and it'll be absurd for people to "expect" ANYTHING. Thank you in advance for any future work you provide for the community.
Settings like AOKP with status bar changes and lockscreen changes and a theme engine would be sweet also.
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Same. It's very smooth and I like it a lot. Lmk when you get an ICS TW ROM with good battery life like EL29.
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Im on EL29 and battery is outstanding. I must admit.
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A tweak that allows force roaming like on some evo 3d roms. I need something like that.
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A tweak that allows force roaming like on some evo 3d roms. I need something like that.
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Im going to have to contact romanbb. that guy is a master of tweaks apps and framework edits. It sholdnt be to hard.
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As long as it's a TW Rom that would be awesome. I like TW and there's a **** ton of people that add launchers to their roms, might as well get CM or AOKP.
Again TW and fast would be nice to see. I have had bad luck with ICS, my phone always hangs for some reason on all leaks.
Thanks in advance.
an aosp ics rom with every single customization option imported from aokp, codename, gummy, slim, and cm9. if you can get that with flawless mms, camera/camcorder, great battery life, with no service or data loss, and properly working sdcard, then you'll have yourself the best aosp rom available hands down.
This may be asking a lot, but i would love to see some of the tweaks for this ROM added. It may be kernel tweaks so i dont know if it is possible. My Mother's phone is running it and after 2 days she still has 50% battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466362
Edit: It seems kernel development has slowed down a lot here for our ET4G. I see this topic is for an ICS ROM so oops.
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It would be nice to see some of the UI from the Note.
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Honestly, would just like to see what you come up with. It can be TW based, aokp, cm9.... either way, there is going to be someone not pleased with your work. I think you should just pick and choose what you like, put it together, and the community will love you for it. I myself do prefer a nice lock screen mod (like maddoggin and the new aosp mod). The launcher I could give two s#*T's about, as long as it runs smooth. The best of luck to you. Hope to see some good things in the future.
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Im a huge fan of the cm9 launcher but i like the TW UI and Camera. Im thinking of a Touchwizless rom. it has the look and feel of aosp but with the great aspects of TW.
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Wow.. i see people askin for tuings that have already been done.. all i ask for is somthing unique! Not a stock ice or stock tw ics, i mean incorporate all you can but don just add all features that we have already.. come on guys think of somethin crazy awesome that is doable
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A touch wiz ROM with mods like AOKP (status bar notification and lockscreen mods ) and behaves like AOKP, the reason behind it being a touchwiz ROM is because the little touchwiz touches are nice( video player, working led, HW accelerated UI and browser and etc) ,putting other UI's might just cause problems (battery and lag). Yet I can only dream!! Just an idea. If this is even possible.
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Stock touch wiz ICS ROM themed the look like ICS and fix that darn notification bug.
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My opinion is to offer options.
Help swamp goblin port sense 4.0.
Help maintain and update MIUI if needed.
Port over motoblur (just so peeps can try it)
Help tcp if needed with aokp or cma or gummy.
Etc. Etc. The more options we have, the happier everyone will be.
While not a rom, how about porting the cm9 reloaded mod to our phone. The systemUI of the mod needs to be merged with ours to get the 4g toggle and other stuff working. I would do it, but time isn't something I have at the moment.
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I know there is one thread labeled it is the only official ICS thread, but I have a slightly different question...
My vibrant broke, and there was literally a ton of ICS roms for Vibrant... now with the Galaxy S2 I see plenty of ICS roms, but they all seem to have some kind of touchwiz basis... I hate touchwiz with a passion. I love the way google sets the phone up like on the Nexus...
Are there any roms that are just lightweight pure and simple ICS roms for the SII?
I'd love any responces and i'm not trying to troll i've searched a bit with no results.
Thank you anyone.
Also i know about the APEX launcher I was just wondering if there is something more direct.
CM9 and AOKP will both give you a pretty stock or more than stock experience.
Miui is a whole different ball game but not touchwiz
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The cm or aokp roms, but they aren't fully functional.
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Slightly off topic but why get SII when you can get the nexus? Sounds like you would love that phone more... and cheaper too.
Anyways, AKOP/CM9 is probably your best bet when dev gets really rolling on it with an official source release.
Because 4g.
Waiting for source.
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Waiting for source.
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This. Ppl that have had the s2 since long before you are also sick of touchwiz but there is nothing the devs can do to remove it completely till we get source
Questions go in the Q&A section
Coming from the Vibrant I had a pure google ICS rom and it was fully functional...
CM9/AOKP which would you guys pick. CM9 still in the alpha stages and really buggy? I would just like something stable..
Im not new here because i have always looked around the forums when i had older phones. Now that I have a galaxy s 3 for tmobile, i felt the need to get on here and realize the true potential of this beast phone.Very interested in android developement and making this phone shine. Im ready for everyones input on whatever i have to say and will be all ears.
This phone shines out of the box. There is no need to worry about losing your imei anymore. So you can root and flash normally now. My opinion. Cm is losing its flavor. All the features of touch wiz are amazing and not really worth losing.
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Glad to have you here. I'm running the euroskank nightlies. Got jelly bro indeed?
Cyanogen mod is not losing its swag. A lot of them including Cyanogen work for Samsung.
Miui team as well.
That's why touchwiz doesn't suck as much.
Still sucks though. Jk
Peace
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Before doing anything you should backup your IMEI though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29514187#post29514187
I use to never flash anything besides cyanogen mod. Ever since the g1 days. I had the Htc one S and gave sense a chance for the first time and altho I never felt quite comfortable I found it pretty nice and less bloated than previous builds. I then upgraded to this beast (sgs3) and I absolutely love touchwiz. I don't see me flashing cm until most bugs are sorted out and if they add a better camera, and the touchwiz motion shortcuts which I find myself using more than I thought.
I don't see what people don't like about touchwiz. It's clean and simple which is what made me fall in love with cm. I'm sure cm probably is less bloated under the hood but I'm not ready to part with touchwiz. I'll wait for cm10 stable.
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elracing21 said:
I use to never flash anything besides cyanogen mod. Ever since the g1 days. I had the Htc one S and gave sense a chance for the first time and altho I never felt quite comfortable I found it pretty nice and less bloated than previous builds. I then upgraded to this beast (sgs3) and I absolutely love touchwiz. I don't see me flashing cm until most bugs are sorted out and if they add a better camera, and the touchwiz motion shortcuts which I find myself using more than I thought.
I don't see what people don't like about touchwiz. It's clean and simple which is what made me fall in love with cm. I'm sure cm probably is less bloated under the hood but I'm not ready to part with touchwiz. I'll wait for cm10 stable.
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I think tw is nice as well it has a lot functionality, but I hate the colors they chose for it, I think if this phone had a theme choose like cm does it would be even better
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This phone shines out of the box. There is no need to worry about losing your imei anymore. So you can root and flash normally now. My opinion. Cm is losing its flavor. All the features of touch wiz are amazing and not really worth losing.
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CM is meant to provide a vanilla android experience... what do you expect.
Touchwiz is full of dark colors with blue. My favorite color. Maybe that's why I love it.
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...But I am actually loving Touchwiz... I usually hate overlays but some of the features on TWIZ makes it hard to go back to AOSP based ROMs, as much as I love them (and I reallllllly love AOSP) I keep finding myself wanting to TWIZ it up. Anyone else have a new found love?
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I've been liking it a lot since the s2
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same **** here if they impliment tw motion features on AOSP it would be a real dream
I would love to have the aosp news and weather widget... it is my most favorite widget ever
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Have to agree tw on this phone rocks.
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
i went to aokp and cm10 loved it but keep going back to tw......the features usually put in phones are usually corney as h*** but the ones samsung implemented in this phone is amazing and when im on cm10 and aokp i seem to missing those little extra bonus's touchwiz has.
Loving the Wiz since Epic Touch
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i know what you mean. I like smart stay stay and the move up to your ear to call feature. Some nice options in the settings too, but cm10 has more.
TW is nice without being too much. I'm sold.
Not sure if it's just because it's something new and different but I'm really diggin' TW after two HTC devices with Sense.
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Not sure if it's just because it's something new and different but I'm really diggin' TW after two HTC devices with Sense.
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It's one of the reasons I stayed with Sammy instead of going to the OneX. The TW additions really improve android. I only wish they would make the TW launcher more flexible. I gave up on custom ROMs on my Epic 4G and so far I haven't found anything I like better than stock on my SGS3 either.
Yes the new TW on the S3 is the best. I love all the added new features.
Smart Stay and most motion features still work on other launchers btw.
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Not sure if it's just because it's something new and different but I'm really diggin' TW after two HTC devices with Sense.
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Ditto. I ran sense 1.0-3.0 on my Evo OG and TW on the SGS3 is much much better. I also think TW looks "cleaner" than Sense. I'm just really satisfied with my SGS3. It's going to be a long time before I replace it.
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Ditto. I ran sense 1.0-3.0 on my Evo OG and TW on the SGS3 is much much better. I also think TW looks "cleaner" than Sense. I'm just really satisfied with my SGS3. It's going to be a long time before I replace it.
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I began liking TW towards the later stages of Gingerbread on my OG Epic. AOSP is great, no question, but Sammy really has done a good job of the 'less is more' attitude with skins. There seems to be enough benefits to keep it around and enough to differentiate themselves, but it's not bogging your whole phone down like Sense can either.
It's like the took a page from Norton and did it the other way! Norton used to be great for anti-virus stuff, but now, that crap steals every single resource your computer has, and then some...
I also agree. Coming from a long line of HTC devices and a Motorola thrown in there, I think TW has a much lighter footprint than Sense and Motoblur.
I'm coming from the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon and I ran Jelly Bean on it since the day after Google announced it, and loved it.
Since moving to Sprint and the Galaxy S III and have not even thought about flashing a Jelly Bean ROM, okay, so I thought about it but can't bring myself to flash one and lose all the cool motion features.
But I am running Apex Launcher...
Add me to the list. I have been a fan since the original Epic and it just keeps getting better to me. I was checking out the Galaxy Nexus at Sprint one day a while back and I had to put it down. I was so used to Touchwiz I couldn't handle it. Felt like a let down.
Surprisingly i feel the same way.
Hated touchwiz on the Epic and Epic 4g Touch
but on the s3, it's not as instrusive and actually adds alot of functionality.
And that's cause I come from a Gnex running Jelly Belly... It's impressive.
I never though id say this, but I'm loving touchwiz.
and Telus hasn't released Jellybean like they promised. I guess we will continue to play the waiting game for Official Jellybean. :crying:
Has it even been long enough for you guys to all be crying over updates?
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It is possible he is wanting an official release so he can have wi-fi calling. I personally don't like the CM based roms since my banks website doesn't work with any of them, whether it was on my vibrant, G2x, MyTouch 4G or my galaxy s II. So it's clearly something with the CM coding that makes my banks website not work correctly. That's a major deal breaker for me.
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It is possible he is wanting an official release so he can have wi-fi calling. I personally don't like the CM based roms since my banks website doesn't work with any of them, whether it was on my vibrant, G2x, MyTouch 4G or my galaxy s II. So it's clearly something with the CM coding that makes my banks website not work correctly. That's a major deal breaker for me.
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He's talking about the update from telus. Telus doesn't support wi-fi calling.
OP needs to just flash CM10 already.
Why wait for something that you can have now?
Of course he could be wanting an update with Touchwiz, in which case i have no idea how to help (p.s. Stock launcher is better than TW)
I am personally awaiting an official JB update as well. While our phone has great developer and community support I am itchy for some product butter. That amazing smoothness is one of the main reasons I have been running ASD's Tweakwiz even though I'm usually always loyal to AOSP
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I am personally awaiting an official JB update as well. While our phone has great developer and community support I am itchy for some product butter. That amazing smoothness is one of the main reasons I have been running ASD's Tweakwiz even though I'm usually always loyal to AOSP
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CM10
/problem solved
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You either haven't tried other amazing ROMs outside of the CM10 community or you're a really big CM10 fan... can't tell~
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You either haven't tried other amazing ROMs outside of the CM10 community or you're a really big CM10 fan... can't tell~
"problem not solved"
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Completely agreed. While I do like cm10 I am starting to take a good liking to touchwiz. I am looking forward to the official release of jb it should be pretty darn smooth. Also I find battery life to be significantly better on TouchWiz roms
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aosp experience is none like other to me
even though aosp has its short fall
I just like that vanilla aosp experience
Most stable JB roms? They are getting better but with an official release it would be better. I have JB on my note 10.1 and its awesome. Way better than jb roms here do far
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Mr. bird said:
Most stable JB roms? They are getting better but with an official release it would be better. I have JB on my note 10.1 and its awesome. Way better than jb roms here do far
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Yeah the note 10.1 is a better device too so kinda apples and oranges here
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Completely agreed. While I do like cm10 I am starting to take a good liking to touchwiz. I am looking forward to the official release of jb it should be pretty darn smooth. Also I find battery life to be significantly better on TouchWiz roms
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You are right! I like the look of stock launcher, but I love the new touchwiz. It is very smooth and useful. I always go back to Touchwiz roms after trying CM10 or aokp.
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Yeah the note 10.1 is a better device too so kinda apples and oranges here
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Well yeah its a better device but if JB was working the way it is meant to on this device it would be better than it is now. The devs do a great job here but would be able to do more with an official, stable rom.
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