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[Q] Evo using TMo's HSPA+(4G)?

I don't live in a 4G area and have never been to one, so forgive my ignorance.
Will the Evo be able to use T-Mobile's "4G" network? Or any other carrier's "4G"?
Kind of like a roaming call/data signal. (I know GSM/CDMA, but that's not the point)
Thanks.

No, I don't think so. LTE and HSPA require separate radios, which the Evo doesn't have.
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TheMagicalSock said:
No, I don't think so. LTE and HSPA require separate radios, which the Evo doesn't have.
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Anyone up for a new project?
I'd give up my Sprint 4g for HSPA, Since sprint hates where I live and won't give us 4G. But TMobile is expanding to my area.
Verizon is supposed to get into the 4G game and use LTE, so when that happens will the evo be able to use theirs?
(Src: Verizon preparing 4G launch for December)

Take a closer look at the first reply. The EVO doesn't have the radios to function on the other carriers. So no it will never happen.

BigRick10 said:
Take a closer look at the first reply. The EVO doesn't have the radios to function on the other carriers. So no it will never happen.
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I understand that it does not by default, be could it be ported from a tmo/vzw phone?
Like the verizon prl using verizon's 3g when its roaming?

The evo can use verizon towers through the prl hack because both carriers use cdma. The evo doesn't have the hardware to connect to hspa+/lte. Same reason why the evo won't work on a gsm carrier.
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scooter185 said:
The evo can use verizon towers through the prl hack because both carriers use cdma. The evo doesn't have the hardware to connect to hspa+/lte. Same reason why the evo won't work on a gsm carrier.
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Ahh, ok that answers it.
I thought it might have just been a software difference, didn't know the evo lacked the hardware to pickup HSPA.
Thank you for answering my question.

xNotta said:
Ahh, ok that answers it.
I thought it might have just been a software difference, didn't know the evo lacked the hardware to pickup HSPA.
Thank you for answering my question.
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Any CDMA network will work. As long as its running 802.11 fq i believe, correct me if im wrong.
But Verizon is locked out. soo......
Saw a post earlier about neckface who has a alpha app that may be able to switch you to that network. havent tried it yet. but im' downloading it right now.
heres the link:
http://db.tt/OrCO5tg
If it doesn't work for you, try rm -rf'ing /system.

bmxerkid954 said:
Any CDMA network will work. As long as its running 802.11 fq i believe, correct me if im wrong.
But Verizon is locked out. soo......
Saw a post earlier about neckface who has a alpha app that may be able to switch you to that network. havent tried it yet. but im' downloading it right now.
heres the link:
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If it doesn't work for you, try rm -rf'ing /system.
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Don't take this the wrong way, and it's not that I think you would intentionally try do anything malicious. But could you link to the app's source page please?
"ClickMeStupid.apk" is kind of off putting.
Going to decompile and read into what it does before I install.
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Get epic touch or wait for galaxy nexus?

I need help deciding weather to get the epic touch or wait for the galaxy nexus
Thanks in advanced
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is the GS coming to sprint?
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Wait...I wouldn't invest in anything 4G right now even thought the E4GT is a beast. I would rather have something that will get me on Sprints newest network that is LTE!
I do not know why anyone would buy a 4G phone right now or even sign up with Sprint at this time. The only way I would is if Sprint allowed anyone in doing so a 2 year upgrade price to an LTE phone when released and I do not see them doing that.
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Branso07 said:
is the GS coming to sprint?
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Not sure if you are serious or not but if you are the GN has been announced as Sprints first LTE device. No date announced yet but should be 1st half of 2012.

[email protected] said:
I do not know why anyone would buy a 4G phone right now or even sign up with Sprint at this time. The only way I would is if Sprint allowed anyone in doing so a 2 year upgrade price to an LTE phone when released and I do not see them doing that.
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I dont now, but if sprint does in fact get rid of wimax, and our phones are no longer capable of 4g, then they have to drop the premium data add-on, and that would be a change in contract, then they would have to allow you to terminate contract free of charge, then sign up again and get the nexus, or other lte phone for upgrade price....but I would be willing to bet that you could get an upgrade discount before you would have to terminate.

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I dont now, but if sprint does in fact get rid of wimax, and our phones are no longer capable of 4g, then they have to drop the premium data add-on, and that would be a change in contract, then they would have to allow you to terminate contract free of charge, then sign up again and get the nexus, or other lte phone for upgrade price....but I would be willing to bet that you could get an upgrade discount before you would have to terminate.
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Sprint will support Wimax until end of 2013. Data fee has nothing to do with 4g though, 3g only phones also pay the $10 fee.

[email protected] said:
Wait...I wouldn't invest in anything 4G right now even thought the E4GT is a beast. I would rather have something that will get me on Sprints newest network that is LTE!
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Well, it still does not look very promising for LS: http://www.pcworld.com/article/249082/sprint_gives_lightsquared_six_more_weeks_for_fcc_approval.html
There is another article that indicates that Sprint basically 'forgave' LS deadlines, likely because LS's issue is more relevant to the FCC than to LS itself. Until they get the approval they need from the FCC there won't be LTE for sprint users.

Screw the GNex. I love the phone, but, I'm an absurdist at heart....I'm going to wait for the Galaxy Note. I love my ET4G, but, I'd love it to be absurdly large and perhaps a little faster.
4G? Who cares, I barely find a signal now and even if it was LTE I'd barely get a signal for another year or two...
Get what you want, write off Sprint 4G for another year or two...unless you are in one of their pet markets and it means that much to you.

fenixjn said:
Well, it still does not look very promising for LS: http://www.pcworld.com/article/249082/sprint_gives_lightsquared_six_more_weeks_for_fcc_approval.html
There is another article that indicates that Sprint basically 'forgave' LS deadlines, likely because LS's issue is more relevant to the FCC than to LS itself. Until they get the approval they need from the FCC there won't be LTE for sprint users.
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Not sure what that really means, still sounds like Sprint will roll out their 4G? Can anyone break it down...

Wait for the nexus, I wish I had. Dev for this phone is pretty much dead, and if you want the latest stuff, might as well get it straight from Google. /Flamesuit engaged.

Gordon Ramsay said:
Wait for the nexus, I wish I had. Dev for this phone is pretty much dead, and if you want the latest stuff, might as well get it straight from Google. /Flamesuit engaged.
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Dead? Just got a working build of CM7 MIUI, and a alpha build of CM9...
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daneurysm said:
Screw the GNex. I love the phone, but, I'm an absurdist at heart....I'm going to wait for the Galaxy Note. I love my ET4G, but, I'd love it to be absurdly large and perhaps a little faster.
4G? Who cares, I barely find a signal now and even if it was LTE I'd barely get a signal for another year or two...
Get what you want, write off Sprint 4G for another year or two...unless you are in one of their pet markets and it means that much to you.
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Had the Galaxy Note in my hand today at a Best Buy Mobile in the Mall...It is F'en Huge...I luv it but its too f'en big...Maybe I could get used to it...I thought our Touch was huge...This thing dwarfs that...

[email protected] said:
Sprint will support Wimax until end of 2013. Data fee has nothing to do with 4g though, 3g only phones also pay the $10 fee.
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I'm pretty sure this is incorrect. As far as I know, the only 3g phone that pays the $10 fee is the iPhone.

viper786 said:
I'm pretty sure this is incorrect. As far as I know, the only 3g phone that pays the $10 fee is the iPhone.
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And all the blackberry phones and the xpert and marquee. The only exception is the replenish phone
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viper786 said:
I'm pretty sure this is incorrect. As far as I know, the only 3g phone that pays the $10 fee is the iPhone.
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All smartphones...

viper786 said:
I'm pretty sure this is incorrect. As far as I know, the only 3g phone that pays the $10 fee is the iPhone.
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You are wrong. It's a "premium data fee" that is applied to smartphones regardless of whether they're 4G or not.

JasonK75 said:
And all the blackberry phones and the xpert and marquee. The only exception is the replenish phone
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Interesting... I didn't know that. My mom has the LG Optimus and my sister has the Samsung Transform and neither of them have the $10 fee. Are those phones not considered smart phones then?

They're included, my brother has the optimus and we had to add the premium data to our account. If they had their phones activated before they did it for all smart phones they will be an exception to the fee.

fenixjn said:
Well, it still does not look very promising for LS: http://www.pcworld.com/article/249082/sprint_gives_lightsquared_six_more_weeks_for_fcc_approval.html
There is another article that indicates that Sprint basically 'forgave' LS deadlines, likely because LS's issue is more relevant to the FCC than to LS itself. Until they get the approval they need from the FCC there won't be LTE for sprint users.
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This is incorrect, Sprint has an agreement with LS but is rolling out their own LTE network.

Our galaxies can do LTE. They have thae hardware, its the only sprint phone that can do it
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kthejoker20 said:
Our galaxies can do LTE. They have thae hardware, its the only sprint phone that can do it
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I'm not doubting you but where have you seen that our phones have lte capable hardware?
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Wimax to lte

Do y'all think when LTE comes over to sprint that we can switch over from wimax to LTE?
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Not being a smartass, but only if it is in your area and you upgrade your phone.

Its cool..I was talking about as in change them out some how... devs do all types of things....just wanted to kno was it impossible
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kingcaliyone said:
Do y'all think when LTE comes over to sprint that we can switch over from wimax to LTE?
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Craig L and Ed Bay are working on swapping the modems.

sfhub said:
Craig L and Ed Bay are working on swapping the modems.
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If it were that simple, sprint would have done it already and used it as a selling point and to extend the life of the phone
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I just wanna see if it can b done
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Craig L and Ed Bay are working on swapping the modems.
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Nice.
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More realistically if enough ppl complained maybe we can get sprint to give us a free upgrade to an LTE device

By the time LTE actually comes to your area, you'll probably be eligible for an upgrade anyway.
And why would you get a free upgrade? It's not like the WiMAX service is being shut down or anything.

There are theories, but nothing confirmed yet.

psych2l said:
More realistically if enough ppl complained maybe we can get sprint to give us a free upgrade to an LTE device
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I called Sprint when the news that they were ending WiMax came out and they said that if I did not have 4G in my area they would allow me an earlier upgrade to an LTE phone with no penalties.
I had to push them for a while and escalate and bedazzle them with logic, but it worked.
But it was all for nothing since my phone will be put up for sale May 7th.

kingcaliyone said:
I just wanna see if it can b done
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No. Need new hardware, hence new device.
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Our processors can't handle lte
Hence the reason tmo gs2 and att skyrocket has a different processor
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gtuansdiamm said:
Our processors can't handle lte
Hence the reason tmo gs2 and att skyrocket has a different processor
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Precessors have nothing to do with it. The problem is with the antennas. We simply do not have the hardware for lte.

Nah, he is right about the Exynos. I forgot about it. We did hear it may be possible with a software reprogram. Still looking to confirm.

The Root said:
Nah, he is right about the Exynos. I forgot about it. We did hear it may be possible with a software reprogram. Still looking to confirm.
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By "we" you mean sprint employees? They told me at my local store it was not possible. That was a couple months ago. Have things changed? That would be awesome.

meatwadathf said:
By "we" you mean sprint employees? They told me at my local store it was not possible. That was a couple months ago. Have things changed? That would be awesome.
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We as in ACS. We were in touch with a reliable source that I'd prefer not to name the origin of.

A few things...
LTE and WIMAX do require 2 different radios so if you wanted your device to switch between them it would have to have both radios built in.
Wimax is not going away anytime soon because we announced a new hotspot device which houses all of our radios aka "quadband".
Just a question; Why is complaining ever a solution? Technology moves like water. You jump in knowing that there is newer and better just up stream of you. Retail some how gives people a sence of entitlment which baffles me. You buy a car, do you complain the next year and say "well now there is a 2013 modle with x,y,z in it so I should get it for free".... just silly, baby town frolics even.

Gorguts said:
LTE and WIMAX do require 2 different radios so if you wanted your device to switch between them it would have to have both radios built in.
Wimax is not going away anytime soon because we announced a new hotspot device which houses all of our radios aka "quadband".
Just a question; Why is complaining ever a solution? Technology moves like water. You jump in knowing that there is newer and better just up stream of you. Retail some how gives people a sence of entitlment which baffles me. You buy a car, do you complain the next year and say "well now there is a 2013 modle with x,y,z in it so I should get it for free".... just silly, baby town frolics even.
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I kinda agree with what you're saying... I think what people are having an issue with is that they are stuck in contract with a non-lte phone. If you had to pay 5 times for that newer model car than what a new customer would pay, I bet you would be pretty upset too. I just hope my upgrade timing plays out perfectly to when lte is coming to chicago. That would be awesome.

On that meeting they had about network vision they did say about making lte work under Wimax or something like that I may be wrong thoe
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Awesome new discovery!!!

I just found out our "sprint sgs3" phones can browse the internet/apps/sync and download while "talking on the phone"-while on 3g(wifi off), im sure it works while on 4g lte too, but I dont have 4g lte in my area yet so cant tell..
*maybe old news to some, but new to me*
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I noticed this as well and I have taken advantage a few times already. Comes in handy when I am on the phone in the car and I also need to fire up Navigation to get somewhere. That would not work on the Evo 4G unless I was connected to Wimax.

m20120 said:
I noticed this as well and I have taken advantage a few times already. Comes in handy when I am on the phone in the car and I also need to fire up Navigation to get somewhere. That would not work on the Evo 4G unless I was connected to Wimax.
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I don't think car + phone + INTERNET would be a very good idea..
But yes, it's a nice thing to have .

Yep this also works on the EvoLTE... But this doesn't work on the new Note2.. Another reason to stay with the GS3

xTmDarren said:
Yep this also works on the EvoLTE... But this doesn't work on the new Note2.. Another reason to stay with the GS3
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That and the 299.99 price tag for a 16gb
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I believe this is part of the benefit of them switching to 1x advanced... It's nice!
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A little late to the party. It's called SVDO, which allows devices with CDMA radios to simultaneously use voice and data.

My understanding is that only the S3 and EVO LTE have the radios capable of doing this, whereas the Nexus LTE may not.

Gs3 and the Evo LTE has two radios antennas. One for voice & one for data. So I've heard. Let me know if I'm wrong tho

tmoney239sucka said:
Gs3 and the Evo LTE has two radios antennas. One for voice & one for data. So I've heard. Let me know if I'm wrong tho
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this, dunno why sprint doesnt advertise it

Ligerblue said:
this, dunno why sprint doesnt advertise it
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Its not a feature that only Sprint has. AT&T's network has allowed it for awhile. The Verizon version of the GS3 probably can do the same thing.

mordbane said:
Its not a feature that only Sprint has. AT&T's network has allowed it for awhile. The Verizon version of the GS3 probably can do the same thing.
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Verizon can't do it from What I heard
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Ligerblue said:
this, dunno why sprint doesnt advertise it
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Probably cause they dont realize it

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Its not a feature that only Sprint has. AT&T's network has allowed it for awhile. The Verizon version of the GS3 probably can do the same thing.
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AT&T is GSM, not CDMA. Different technologies.

jed_mopho said:
Probably cause they dont realize it
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It's because they don't support SVDO on all towers and during high volumes, data is less prioritized so you may only get voice.

jed_mopho said:
Probably cause they dont realize it
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LMAO I wouldn't be surprised. I don't even bother going into their store to ask questions. Only to look at phones and when I'm approached by someone I tell them I'm fine because 99% of what they say is misinformation or flat out ridiculous. Last time I went I overheard one of the guys telling this lady who obviously knew nothing about phones that she should go with the Epic Touch 4G because the Galaxy Nexus "wasn't that good." Really? It was hard holding my tongue at that moment. Anyways sorry to get a little off topic but just had to let it out.
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Not to be Mr obvious but the real world reason you may be use this while driving legal and safely would be if you had your gs3 mounted on your dash using Google nav and then your phone rings and you answer it on your Bluetooth.... All while Google nav never loosing its map data connection.
I do this all the time
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I just found out the other day you could browser and talk on the phone at the same time. Sprint's first phone capable.

rukin1 said:
I just found out the other day you could browser and talk on the phone at the same time. Sprint's first phone capable.
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Actually, the Evo 4G LTE did SVDO before the S3. And I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure there were other SVDO-capable phones before the Evo.

My Galaxy Attain from metropcs can talk and browse at the same time and I got that phone over 8 months ago I'm sure there are a few phones that can do this
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Sprint lte roadmap

I'm not sure if anyone has found this site yet, but it's one of my bookmarks. I don't much like looking at it because Pittsburgh is nowhere to be found yet. Hopefully the rest of you are listed somewhere.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/

I might drop Sprint based on this information. I've been using a 4G phone since the first EVO. I never saw WiMax and now I won't see LTE until TBD. Which is at least 4th quarter 2013.

ls3mach said:
I might drop Sprint based on this information. I've been using a 4G phone since the first EVO. I never saw WiMax and now I won't see LTE until TBD. Which is at least 4th quarter 2013.
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I've been hearing a lot of cities that were slated for 4Q being pushed up to 2Q so I'm just waiting patiently.

I wish I knew if Louisville, KY was in West Kentucky or East Kentucky
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Found a map that says Western KY. Sweet!

Keep in mind that now that Sprint if owned by Softbank, they have more money to play with so I would expect things to be accelerated. This is just a guess tho.

Chuck_IV said:
Keep in mind that now that Sprint if owned by Softbank, they have more money to play with so I would expect things to be accelerated. This is just a guess tho.
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That is what my continual optimism tells me....wonder how long I can stay optimistic? lol

Darkendvoid88 said:
I've been hearing a lot of cities that were slated for 4Q being pushed up to 2Q so I'm just waiting patiently.
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Sprint just recently announced that the markets that they have been working on have been going ahead of schedule. Also that they have deligated more money and work units to the LTE deployment, along with another company is being dispatched to help move things along. Ever since the SoftBank merger
To the OP yes it is a great site in regards to the sprint coverage they usually have updates posted sometimes days before the other sites have something up about new cities being announced etc.
And after speaking with a Sprint employee who goes to the shows/releases for the products the time that he said our city is scheduled to start is exactly on par with the s4gru website.:good:

Darkendvoid88 said:
I've been hearing a lot of cities that were slated for 4Q being pushed up to 2Q so I'm just waiting patiently.
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Any news? I see you are a tech. Specifically Oklahoma.

My experience with this site is that the information reported is about as accurate as what Sprint reports.... Let's just say I was less than impressed!
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Just FYI
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I'm not sure if anyone has found this site yet, but it's one of my bookmarks. I don't much like looking at it because Pittsburgh is nowhere to be found yet. Hopefully the rest of you are listed somewhere.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/
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Being a member of that site, I can tell you Pittsburgh is soon. I actually (from my source inside sprint) know that they are approximating May at this point. I spoke with a couple different people who all independently verified this. Also, if you donate to them, there is a LOT more information that you can glean from it, beyond what you linked. PM me if you have further questions.

Haha dayuummmn until Q4 they will bearly have 4g in Colorado ha sprint u suck. Super bad. Even cricket has more coverage than it
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chuko303 said:
Haha dayuummmn until Q4 they will bearly have 4g in Colorado ha sprint u suck. Super bad. Even cricket has more coverage than it
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At least you're on the deployment list...my entire state isn't anywhere on their list.
First time I'll see LTE is when I move.

Skripka said:
At least you're on the deployment list...my entire state isn't anywhere on their list.
First time I'll see LTE is when I move.
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Seriously???? What state?
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chuko303 said:
Seriously???? What state?
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Nebraska.
Between Lincoln and Omaha we probably have a total of 2 WiMax towers...allegedly there was WiMax to be had in both, but I never saw it on my EVO4G. And by the time I tradeup my Note2 for Note3 or what have you, I probably still will not have ever seen 4G in state.

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Nebraska.
Between Lincoln and Omaha we probably have a total of 2 WiMax towers...allegedly there was WiMax to be had in both, but I never saw it on my EVO4G. And by the time I tradeup my Note2, I probably still will not have ever seen 4G service.
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Wow man that sucks.
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Im from phoenix and we never even had wimax and I couldnt care less about wimax or 4g im pretty happy with my 3g. I cant understand why people need that much speed on their cell phones.
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LTE in Baltimore and dc
Coming along nice
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For those that have no lte and are not on any list I'd start saving money now. Give Sprint 3-4 months, if still no lte or announcements then I say switch. First check with tmobile in your area. If it's in your area I recommend them. Even at their slowest their hsdpa+ hits at 2-4mbps.
I myself am giving Sprint till June. If by then the lte I'm seeing now doesn't improve I'm moving to tmo. In my town tmo gets around 6mbps and if they ever upgrade to lte here then I'm golden. It's all a matter of waiting now
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